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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / June 2008Sen. Chuck Schumer and the Breast Implant Common Benefit Fund
Note from Ilena Rosenthal, Health Lover. http://ilenarose.blogspot.com www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm Barrett's Internet Junk Science PR Team Steve Milloy ... like Stephen Barrett, are chemical industry mouths. Einormous mouths being used to protect the chemical industry while pretending to be 'unbiased.' Far from it. They are slick writers for hire who have worked for years falsely claiming industry science is 'sound.' Baloney. They have formulas where they expound the notion that chemicals (in any and all combinations) are 'safe.' So are breast implants according to them ... and vaccinations and pharmaceuticals all get the green light from these corporate defenders. As a corporate lawyer .... Milloy wars against plaintiffs lawyers working to bring compensation for those whose health has been destroyed by chemicals, breast implants, etc. His junk journalism uses the same formulas over and over again to claim that the industries who pay him well ... are innocent and the victims of greedy plaintiffs lawyers and their clients. To quote from this heart wrenching appeal from Junk Lawyer, Milloy, "Though I dont know what the fate of Schumers bill will be would a Democratic-controlled Congress really undermine the credibility of the FDA? it looks like the class-action lawsuit filed in federal court may be on a collision course with the Daubert decision." Looks like he has new job security to continue to defend Daubert ... a coup for industry. "Credibility of the FDA ??? " Who are you kidding? Milloy should be sued for journalistic malpractice. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CLEAR PROFILE: STEVEN MILLOY AND JUNKSCIENCE.COM 1155 Connecticut Ave Nw, Suite 300, Washington DC 20036 Phone: 202-467-8586 Fax: 202-467-0768 http://web.archive.org/web/20030223171025/http://www.clearproject.org/reports_mi lloy.html Current Affiliations: Front man, Junkscience.com web site Adjunct Scholar, Cato Institute Commentator, Fox News.com Compiled December 2001 Role in backlash movement: Industry flack. Overview :"Junkman" Steven Milloy has made a career of lobbying for polluting industries, heading corporate front groups to deny environmental concerns, and ridiculing individual environmentalists on behalf of corporate interests. In the world according to Milloy, any scientific study that does not support the world view where all chemicals are safe is "junk science", all environmentalists are alarmist, and pollution and second hand smoke are harmless. The labels fly fast and furious, regardless of where the scientific mainstream falls on an issue and regardless of what point we are at in the scientific discovery process. Interestingly, Milloy denies he was ever a lobbyist. In 1998, while executive director of the Advancement of Sound Science Coalition, he replied to an inquiry into whether he was a lobbyist: "I do not lobby for ANYONE. Before I became executive director of TASSC, I did some technical consulting for a D.C. firm which had the policy of registering all its employees and consultants as lobbyists (whether or not they lobbied) pursuant to a new law passed in 1995. I am aware of the listing and have asked it to be corrected since I no longer work for that firm. I challenge anyone to produce any evidence that I have ever lobbied any government official for anything." However, Milloy shows up in federal lobbyist registration data for 1997 as having lobbying expenditures on his behalf, indicating his firm, the EOP Group, believed him to be an active lobbyist, "technical" or otherwise. The same federal records indicate Milloy represented the American Petroleum Institute, FMC Corp, Fort Howard, International Food Additives Council, and Monsanto. Interestingly, according to these records, Milloy lobbied for Monsanto on the subject of "food safety and labeling", which is lobbyist speak for "biotech foods". (Center for Responsive Politics, Lobbyist Database) According to the Washington Representatives, Milloy was still registered as a lobbyist with the EOP Group in 1999, with the American Petroleum Institute and FMC Corp listed as clients. (1999 Washington Representatives). According to Milloy's official biography, Milloy holds a B.A. in Natural Sciences from The Johns Hopkins University, a Master of Health Sciences in Biostatistics from The Johns Hopkins University School of Hygiene and Public Health, a Juris Doctorate from the University of Baltimore, and a Master of Laws from the Georgetown University Law Center. About Junkscience.com and Citizens for the Integrity of Science (CFIS) Since 1996, Junkscience.com has listed links to current articles on many environmental and public health issues, with running commentary courtesy of the "junkman". Milloy defines Junk science as "bad science used by lawsuit-happy trial lawyers, the 'food police,' environmental Chicken Littles, power-drunk regulators, and unethical-to-dishonest scientists to fuel specious lawsuits, wacky social and political agendas, and the quest for personal fame and fortune." (http://www.junkscience.com/faqs.html) Though Milloy refuses to disclose organizational details such as who pays his bills, there are a few things we know about Milloy's outfit: Though there is no contact information other than an email on the web site, Junkscience.com is registered to Milloy Inc, at the same address as the EOP Group, the lobbying firm in Washington, DC. where Milloy was registered as a lobbyist . However, the phone number for junkscience.com is registered to "Advancement of Sound Science Coalition" (a well exposed corporate front group and a former project of the EOP Group) at 1155 Connecticut Ave NW, Suite 300 in Washington, DC. This is the same phone number and address Milloy has used for the Citizens for the Integrity of Science, Junkscience.com, NoMoresScares.com, and of course, the defunct Advancement of Sound Science Coalition. The fax number used on numerous press releases over the years is "an interoffice fax" at 1155 Connecticut Ave NW,. according to a simple internet search. Milloy's Citizens for the Integrity of Science, (CFIS) the supposed organization that sponsors Milloy's junkscience.com page, does not exist in IRS records as a non-profit (as of fall 2001), though by using a "dot.org" web address, non-profit status is suggested. Why wouldn't Milloy register his "dot.org" as a non-profit? Non-profits are subject to certain pesky rules of public disclosure- information that could be damaging to junkscience.com and the Citizens for the Integrity of Sceince's credibility. Thus, we are missing the elusive pieces of evidence we need: a solid money trail, names of board members, articles of incorporation- all things Milloy never wants us to find. The internet site, CFIS.org (Citizens for the Integrity of Science), is registered to Steve Milloy's home address in posh Potomac, MD, with Steve Milloy listed as the administrative contact. So who is actually paying for junkscience.com? We don't know, and Milloy has repeatedly refused to disclose his patrons. Steve Milloy answers question of who pays for Junkscience.com (annoyingly in the third person), "Steve Milloy [is paying for junkscience.com]. But who pays isn't important; the substance is. Steve figures he has the junk science debate won when an opponent raises a collateral issue like funding." Collatoral issue, Steve? We see it is pretty central, especially if former (?) client Monsanto is paying for all that pro-biotech spin, for example. And can you blame us if we wonder why Milloy is pretending to run a non-profit that exists as nothing more than the same phone number set up for an known tobacco industry front group in 1993? CFIS does appear to have some sort of board, though we know of only two members, including Milloy. In a May 11,1999 Freedom of Information Act filed by Citizens for the Integrity of Science posted on the Junkscience web page, Steve Milloy listed himself and Michael Gough of the Competitive Enterprise Institute as "Directors" of Citizens for the Integrity of Science, with TASSC's old 1155 Connecticut address and contact info, which is also Milloy's current business address. Previous Positions/Projects * While a registered lobbyist with the EOP Group, Milloy's clients included Monsanto, the American Petroleum Institute, Crosthwait Terney (a conservative legal firm) the FMC Corporation, and the International Food Additives Council.b(1996 Washington Representatives, Washington Representatives, 1999 and Center for Responsive Politics lobbyist database 1997 data.) Milloy claims he was "a technical consultant" for the lobbying firm. * Milloy was a leader in the already defunct NoMoreScares.com, a web site launched in August 2000 primarily to defend biotech food and malign Fenton Communications, one of the only PR firms in Washington DC willing to work with non-profit public interest groups and their relatively small PR budgets. Other coalition members included Elizabeth Whelan of the American Council on Science and Health, Alex Avery and Michael Fumento of the Hudson Institute, National Center for Public Policy Research, Bonner Cohen of the Lexington Institute, and Michael Gough of the Cato Institute. No More Scares disappeared almost as hastily as it was brought into existence, perhaps made redundant by the Guest Choice Network, which is now called "The Center for Consumer Freedom". Who can keep track of who is doing what? (Which is exactly the goal of ever-changing corporate front groups) * Milloy was Director of Science Policy Studies at the National Environmental Policy Institute. * According to the P.R. Watch report "How Big Tobacco Helped Create the Junkman," Milloy got his full fledged launch as an industry apologist in the early 1990s working for the tobacco industry. In 1992 Milloy worked for James Tozzi at Multinational Business Services. Tozzi, a former career bureaucrat at the U.S. Office of Management and Budget who had spearheaded the Reagan-era OMB campaign to gut environmental regulations, is described in internal Philip Morris documents as the company's "primary contact on the EPA/ETS risk assessment during the second half of 1992." During that period, the memo noted, "Tozzi has been invaluable in executing our Washington efforts including generating technical briefing papers, numerous letters to agencies and media interviews," a service for which Philip Morris paid an estimated $300,000 in consulting fees. Check out the full PR Watch report, complete with links to original tobacco documents. * According to PR Watch, after leaving Tozzi's service, Milloy became president of his own organization called the "Regulatory Impact Analysis Project, Inc.," where he wrote a couple of reports arguing that "most environmental risks are so small or indistinguishable that their existence cannot be proven." Shortly thereafter, he launched the "Junk Science Home Page." Calling himself "the Junkman," he offered daily attacks on environmentalists, public health and food safety regulators, anti-nuclear and animal rights activists, and a wide range of other targets that he accused of using unsound science to advance various political agendas. * Between March 1997 and the fall of 1998, Milloy was the well-paid head of the corporate front group,The Advancement of Sound Science Coalition (Milloy was paid $100,000 for the 1998 fiscal year according to TASSC's IRS 990 form). For a time, the Junkscience.com web site and TASSC were one and the same. The now-defunct Advancement of Sound Science Coalition (TASSC), founded primarily by Philip Morris in 1993, was part of a corporate plan to pump millions of dollars into a campaign to cast doubt on a variety of environmental and public health issues, including global warming and second hand smoke.(The New York Times, April 25, 1998) TASSC, originally set up as a front group by APCO and Associates (PR firm related to EOP Group, Milloy's previous employer), and faded into oblivion after September 1998, possibly due to the damage caused by the negative exposure in the 1998 New York Times article. TASSC was funded by Philip Morris, Exxon, Procter and Gamble, Dow, 3M and other large corporations, primarily as a pro-tobacco and anti-tort voices. TASSC left the scene in 1998, yet Milloy has used TASSC's phone number and address for all his subsequent ventures. Though later a project of the EOP Group, TASSC was originally based in the Washington, D.C. offices of the lobbying firm APCO Associates and claimed a membership of over 400 corporations representing chemical, agricultural, manufacturing, oil, dairy, timber, paper and mining interests, including Amoco, Chevron, and Occidental Petroleum, as well as industry trade associations. TASSC also had a science advisory panel of over 200 members, including some of the most prominent science skeptics in America. TASSC is mentioned by name in the now infamous "tobacco papers" as a group organized to help with the "scientific" message that second hand smoke is harmless. The purpose of TASSC, as described in a memo from APCO's Tom Hockaday and Neal Cohen, was to "link the tobacco issue with other more 'politically correct' products"--in other words, to make the case that efforts to regulate tobacco were based on the same "junk science". * Environmental Policy Analysis Network- Created and run by Steven Milloy, the Environmental Policy Analysis Network is an earlier incarnation of a one-man front group. EPAN served as the pre-TASSC vehicle for Milloy's editorial campaign for "sound science" and as the home for Milloy's "Junk Science Home Page" This is particularly interesting in light of the fact that "junkscience.com" lists the EOP Group's address as the contact on its web registration. Highlights, Achievements * Milloy put out his latest book in September 2001 published by the Cato Institute Press, "Junk Science Judo: Self Defense Against Health Scares and Scams". Both of Milloy's previous books on similar topics were published by the Cato Institute, a Washington, D.C.-based free market think tank. * In October 1999 Milloy rejoiced in the death of Dr. David Rall, founder of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, renowned public health leader, and by reputation a very kind person. Milloy wrote, "As far as David Rall is concerned, he was a bad guy when he was alive. ...Death did not improve track record." Milloy began his commentary on Rall's untimely death with "Scratch one junk scientist who promoted the bankrupt idea that rats with a chemical predicts cancer in humans exposed to much lower levels of the chemical -- a notion that, at the very least, has wasted billions and billions of public and private dollars." (Washington Post, October 12, 1999 and Grist Magazine, October 18, 1999) * Milloy was equally callous following the fall 1999 death of Senator John Chafee, a Rhode Island Republican. Milloy viewed his death as a good thing for polluters because, "Unfortunately, Sen. Chafee too often acted like a Democrat on environmental and regulatory issues. The good news is his replacement as committee chairman will be Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) who has shown courage in opposing the Kyoto protocol and the EPA air quality proposals." (As Grist Magazine's Muckracker column pointed out 11/08/99, Milloy was also wrong about Inhofe being Chafee's replacement) Read other articles about Steve Milloy and his projects: John Schwartz, The Washington Post, February 21, 1999. "If you Seek the Truth, Don't Trash the Science." P.R. Watch/Center for Media and Democracy "The Usual Suspects: Industry Hacks Turn Fear on its Head" "The Trashman Speweth" An excerpt on Milloy and other "junkscience" talking heads, from John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton's "Trust Us, We're Experts". Posted by TomPaine.com Other interesting sites "Internet Bunk and the Junkscience Page" We don't know who writes this page, but he is a true skeptic and provides interesting reading. "Junk Science and the Art of Spin-Doctoring", by Australian journalist Stewart Fist > Note from Ilena Rosenthal, Health Lover.http://ilenarose.blogspot.comwww.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm > Barrett's Internet Junk Science PR Team [quoted text clipped - 183 lines] > > read more » =================================== [Breast Implant ladies: Express your outrage!!] Still others express outrage that a percentage of your settlement money is funding the Common Benefit Trust, as the Sen. Chuck Schumer and Steve Milloy article states, has been going to fund other venues like studies for possible plastic baby bottle litigation, etc. Still others have concerns some Common Benefit Trust treasure may have found it’s way into attorney or PR firm coffers to fund anti- vaccination studies, mercury amalgam dentistry, free speech agendas, and other interests having nothing to do with breast implants whatsoever. And sometimes may even work at cross-purposes to our interests. As one woman said, “It is patently wrong if attorneys are using CBT funding meant for implant women issues, on venues that may hop scotch them to future non-implant related business and litigation in the future. It may be studies on plastic baby and water bottles now, but what will it be next?” Concern is almost universal, that as long as the women remain unsettled in their claims, and the MDL is alive and well, so too will be the Common Benefit Trust to fund a litany of other issues, rather than our own. They suggest it may be that our unsettled women with claims are being held hostage, being delayed and denied in settlement efforts for this reason alone! My wish now, and always has been, to see those of you, who are not settled in your claims to become settled, so you can move on to the rest of your lives. Here’s what I would like to suggest – If you have concerns about any of this, please feel free to write Judge Clemons directly. I caution about attempting to write long drawn out personal stories to him. However, if you are one of those who has a doctor documented rupture(s), or something of that serious nature, and you have been unsuccessful in obtaining resolve from the Settlement Office, I would certainly advise him of that. Here are points many of you have expressed. If these are your thoughts too, you can advise the Judge directly. (1) Suspicion the MDL may have dragged out and denied settlement, because as long as litigation is open, the CBT continues to exist as a Golden Egg, allowing interests extraneous to the breast implant victims themselves to feed from it. (2) Suspicion that interests running counter to breast implant issues (both politically and attorney wise) are being funded by the CBT (i.e. studies for plastic baby bottles, possibly thimerosal-mercury-autism, etc.), which are used to fuel litigation preparation on other possible class actions of non-silicone related litigation. (3) How much money has been placed in the Common Benefit Trust (CBT) fund from its inception, and how much is it’s current balance today. (4) What will happen to the fund, once the breast implant litigation is completely settled and closed? (5) Interests in a Forensic Audit of the Trust since it's inception, to more fully disclose what other issues were funded (other than the baby bottle studies), which have been paid by the breast implant victims, who paid into that fund from their settlements. (6) Still others have expressed an interest in the statistics – and would like to see an accounting of the stats – how many disease claims, rupture – etc. I fully understand that many of you, haven’t a great deal of knowledge about the history of the MDL, so I would suggest caution – I would hate to see the Judge overwhelmed with an avalanche of letters which are difficult to wade through and to get a grip on. But if you feel you have a clear understanding and background of what has been experienced, than by all means, contact the judge. Here’s his contact info: Hon. Judge Clemon United States District Court Hugo L. Black U.S. Courthouse 1729 5th Ave. North Birmingham, AL. 35203 Note from Ilena Rosenthal, Health Lover. I too, would love to see updated breakdowns from the Dow Debacle ... Here's the last one from years ago: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/browse_frm/thread/bd2a 87f5256bdc19/defc04caea040f4e?lnk=st&q=sybil+patrick+dow#defc04caea040f4e Note from Ilena: I speak daily with women totally frustrated about the delays and denials on the Dow Bankruptcy ... now heading into it's 12 year. Thlis is an interesting breakdown of plaintiff attorney fees up until 1 1/2 years ago ... since then, these numbers haven't been posted. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org Cumulative Expenses......From Pam Dowd Date: Mon, Sep 13 2004 7:52 pm Email: joys...@dejazzd.com (Joyce) Groups: alt.support.breast-implant Pam Dowd has tried twice to post this and it hasn't worked. I Am going to try again for her...... Sybil Goldrich to represent "us" garnered $310,068.25 for expenses. Pam EXHIBIT 1 DOW CORNING CORPORATION CHAPTER 11-CASE NUMBER 95-20512 CUMULATIVE FEES AND EXPENSES PAID AS OF JULY 31, 2004 FOR FEES AND EXPENSES INCURRED FROM MAY 15, 1995 THROUGH APRIL 30, 2004 FIRM TOTAL FEES AND EXPENSES PAID THROUGH 7/31/04 ADAMS & REESE $14,173.98 ALTMAN GROUP, THE (TCC SOLICITATION AGENT) $1,552,646.21 AMJ ADVISORS LLC (TCC FINANCIAL ADVISORS) $139,409.00 ANDERSON, KILL & OLICK $1,923,883.54 ARMSTRONG TEASDALE LLP $56,251.86 ARTHUR ANDERSEN LLP $131,991.00 BANQUE NATIONALE-MORYL, FREDERICK $37,446.98 BAVOL BUSY GRIANO & RICE, P.A. $3,290,499.38 BENESCH, FRIEDLANDER, COPLAN & ARONOFF $3,159,51.27 BLACKSTONE GROUP, L.P. $8,209,911.07 BLIZZARD, MCCARTHY & NABERS, L.L.P. (SPECIAL LITIGATION COUNSEL) $5,493,283.78 BORDEN LADNER GERVAIS, LLP $88,542.71 BRANCH FIRM, THE $11,182.00 (NO FEES PAID SINCE 1995, THESE ARE EXPENSES ONLY) BRICKER & ECKLER (TCC COUNSEL) $848,998.64 BULLIVANT, HOUSER, BAILY, PENDERGRASS $80,26.83 BURSON-MARSTELLER $3,635,647.77 CAMPBELL, MARR $15,635.81 CHRISTENSEN & JENSEN, P.C. $5,214.58 CLARK, WILSON $338,574.00 COLEMAN & GREIG $20,006.06 CORNELL, JAMES $1,738.20 CORRIGAN, JOHNSON & TUTOR $13,969.39 COVINGTON & BURLING $7,150,623.78 CROMER & EAGLESFIELD $570,101.26 CROWE & DUNLEVY $66,448.96 D.F. KING $1,845,995.00 DAVIS POLK & WARDWELL $15,284,330.09 DICKSTEIN SHAPIRO MORIN & OSHINSKY $1,909,047.12 DINSMORE & SHOHL $912,219.39 DOFFERMYRE SHIELDS CANFIELD KNOWLES & DEVINE, LLP $233,575.68 (NO FEES PAID SINCE 1995, THESE ARE EXPENSES ONLY) DONALD S. MALECKI & ASSOCIATES, INC. (TCC SPECIAL COUNSEL INSURANCE) $210,596.77 DRESDNER KLEINWORT WASSERSTEIN, INC $6,596,934.71 DUTTON BROCK, LLP $280,033.96 DYKEMA GOSSETT PLLC $48,646.91 ERICKSEN, THORPE, SWAINSTON, LTD $7,666.18 ERNST & YOUNG, LLP (TCC FINANCIAL ADVISOR) $6,849,448.80 FEINBERG GROUP, THE $9,977,206.86 FISHER, GALLAGHER & LEWIS, LLP $23,465.43 (NO FEES PAID SINCE 1995, THESE ARE EXPENSES ONLY) FLOYD JONES RIOS WAHRLICH PC $7,201.71 FOULSTON & SIEFKIN, LLP $5,029.74 FRANCIS E. MCGOVERN $2,941,252.80 FRIDAY, ELDREDGE & CLARK $1,988.28 FTI CONSULTING, INC. $88,830.55 FUKUNAGA, MATAYOSHI, HERSHEY & CHING $10,986.95 GAIL Z. (GRANT) STEWART, LAW OFFICES OF $1,988,371.74 GARAN LUCOW MILLER $756,354.12 GASCO GOODHUE $144,37.25 GIBSON, DUNN & CRUTCHER $30,613.76 GILBERT HEINTZ & RANDOLPH LLP $447,838.30 GORDON & REES $380,904.68 GORDON, MUIR & FOLEY $28,762.22 HARMAN, CLAYTOR, CORRIGAN & WELLMAN $2,044.87 HAYNES AND BOONE, LLP $1,214,703.97 (PATRICK HUGHES? FIRM/CO-COUNSEL TO TCC) HILSOFT (TCC MEDIA CONSULTANT) $180,687.19 HOLLAND & KNIGHT $39,268.54 HONIGMAN, MILLER, SCHWARTZ AND COHN $5,028,305.39 ICE, MILLER, DONADIO & RYAN $20,268.59 JANIK & DORMAN $81,655.42 JONES DAY $773,553.19 KATTEN MUCHIN ZAVIS ROSENMAN (TCC SPECIAL COUNSEL) $1,712,749.00 KAYE SCHOLER LLP $6,30,004.05 KELEHER & MCLEOD PA $16,886.19 KEYWELL AND ROSENFELD $24,888.09 KILPATRICK & CODY $0.00 KILPATRICK STOCKTON LLP (TCC CO-COUNSEL) $5,184,908.92 KINSELLA COMMUNICATIONS, LTD. (TCC NOTICE CONSULTANT) $205,993.18 KIRKLAND & ELLIS $7,407,498.01 KRAMER LEVIN NAFTALIS & FRANKEL LLP $18,178,572.50 KRUSEN, EVANS AND BYRNE $103,200.46 LACHANCE D?AMOURS & ASSOCIES $1,063.13 LALLEY, JOHN $1,025.72 LAMBERT, LESER, ISACKSON, COOK & IUNTA, PC $847,960.52 LANDRUM & SHOUSE $2,874.72 LANE & MITTENDORF $40,876.10 LANE, POWELL, SPEARS, & LUBERSKY $97,570.26 LANGE, SIMPSON, ROBINSON & SUMMERVILLE $3,963.76 LEGAL ANAYLSIS SYSTEMS, INC. (TCC CONSULTANT) $2,614,350.07 LONG, WEINBERG, ANSLEY & WHEELER $15,127.54 MAUPIN, TAYLOR, ELLIS & ADAMS PA $4,464.54 MCCAGUE, WIRES, PEACOCK, BORLACK, MCINNIS & LLOYD $29,323.76 MCCLAIN, LEPPERT & MANEY, PC $190,967.99 MCDONALD KUHN $57,773.95 MCFALL, SHERWOOD & SHEEHY $188,047.84 MITHOFF & JACKS (TOMMY JACKS) $8,048.49 (FEES ONLY. NO EXPENSES PAID.) MONTGOMERY, GREEN, JARVIS, KOLODNY & MARKUSSON, PC $9,085.67 NAVIGANT CONSULTING, INC. $1,661,158.29 NELIGAN, TARPLEY, ANDREWS & FOLEY, LLP $3,035,595.03 NELSON, MULLINS, RILEY & SCARBOROUGH LLP $7,708.35 O'CONNOR, CAVANAUGH, ANDERSON, WESTOVER $67,085.31 O'MELVENY & MEYERS $143,041.73 O'QUINN, KERENSKY, MCANINCH & LAMINACK $5,660.00 (FEES ONLY. NO EXPENSES PAID.) PAGE, MANNINO, PERESICH & MCDERMOTT $114,36.07 PRICEWATERHOUSECOOPERS $18,983,710.91 RANDALL L. FRANK $591,214.75 RIDER, BENNETT, EGAN & ARUNDEL $56,755.38 SCHNADER, HARRISON SEGL & LEWIS $20,826,99 SHACKLETON, HAZELTINE & BISHOP $126,797.12 SHAW PITTMAN POTTS & TROWBRIDGE-DEBTOR $55,218.66 SHAW PITTMAN POTTS & ROWBRIDGE-TORT COMM $510,032.56 SHEINFELD MALEY & KAY $28,944,284.34 SHERMETA, CHIMKO & KILPARICK, PC $694,465.58 SKADDEN, ARPS, SLATE, MEAGHER & FLOM $285,728.87 SMITH & ZUCCARINI, PS $11,310.09 STEPTOE & JOHNSON $20,383.50 SYBIL GOLDRICH $310,068.25 (EXPENSES ONLY/NO FEES CHARGED OR PAID) SYBIL SHAINWALD, ESQ. $21,408.98 (NO FEES PAID SINCE 1995, THESE ARE EXPENSES ONLY) TYBOUT, REDFERN & PELL $3,375.01 UGRIN, ALEXANDER, ZADICK, HIGGINS $1,456.87 VERNER, LIIPFERT, BERNHARD, MCPHERSON & HAND $10,925,944.00 (PATRICK HUGHES? FIRM/COUNSEL TO TCC) VIAL, HAMILTON, KOCH & KNOX $105,772.06 WAITE, SCHNEIDER, BAYLESS & CHESLEY, CO., LPA $30,523.88 WEDREN GERALD E. (TCC SPECIAL COUNSEL) $369,964.31 WESTOVER & DOWNEY $1,277.50 WHITEFORD, TAYLOR & PRESTON LLP $7,833.61 WILLIAMS MULLEN CLARK & DOBBINS (WAS WISE & MARSAC) $1,970,887.93 ZAGAR, F.A. BANK OF AMERICA $1,257.16 TOTAL FEES PAID $182,554,875.23 TOTAL EXPENSES 2,216,054.71 TOTAL PAYMENTS $207,770,929.94 Some she had hightlighted and I am not sure if they will come through that way or not....but here is the informations she wanted posted to the ASBI Board. Joyce Myrl Jeffcoat ... who has been joined at the hip with the vaccination / chemical industry apologists and promoters, asked this question: "Ilena - What do you think about the part that mentions that CBT funds were diverted off to fund SKAPP???" Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal, responds: http://ilenarose.blogspot.com I believe that someone else wrote the piece you and Coleah are promoting ... perhaps Andrew M Langer or another CEI shill or Barrett himself. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm I believe when you claimed not to be a 'fan' of Milloy that was double speak ... I believe you are a publicist for him ... posting his piece here (via Coleah Penley Ayers, who has worked too for years with Snake-oil Langer and Barrett) and one who nuked very important information about him that illustrated precisely the junk science ties with industry. http://web.archive.org/web/20010211082334/http://www.webstarmagic.com/wisletter.htm Myrl nuked this expose about Milloy from her website ... one of the main roles of a publicist. I believe that your whining about vaccination or chemical public relations is just more of your typical distraction ...and that Barrett's Snake-oil Vigilantes (who have made careers out of their PRO Vaccination Agendas) would love to have the implanted women up in arms and divided. You are the Queens of division and flack. I believe that Barrett's Snake-oil Team wants you to promote this notion and claim that anonymous 'others' are concerned about the very issues they want to control with their pro-amalgam, pro-vaccination agendas. Your claim about "others" is probably Barrett and his team. "Still others have concerns some Common Benefit Trust treasure may have found its way into attorney or PR firm coffers to fund anti- vaccination studies, mercury amalgam dentistry, free speech agendas, and other interests having nothing to do with breast implants whatsoever. " I believe they once again, are using you and Coleah to try to silence those in opposition to their agendas by trying to make implanted women harmed by Dow products that the reason they received a pittance only if anything at all, is because 'their' monies were spent for vaccination awareness ... which is probably total and utter flack and nonsense. My guess is very very little if any Common Fund monies have been used to fund any of the issues you mentioned ... but you and the Snake-oil Team are trying to divert attention to the fact that women are being denied payments from this disastrous Dow debacle and try to get them to blame the "anti-vacs" ... another of Barrett's well funded targets. I would love to see the latest breakdowns of the monies spent ... it was a shame when Pam Dowd stopped posting them. I believe the nonsense you and Coleah have written about vaccinations and the Vac Lies you spread are just another phase of pro-Vac PR. Thanks for asking. You can believe anything you wish Ilena - Most folks recognize your paranoid conspiracy theories for what they are. Again the question is - What do you think about the part that mentions CBT funds were diverted off to fund SKAPP??? And as many of the implant women have wondered, how much have you received as a shirt-tale recipient of the CBT or SKAPP to be kept in our midst as a divisive disruption agent??? We all want to know! Who was your direct pay master??? For those who haven't a history about the Milloy material, I had on a webpage years ago, there is an interesting set of facts surrounding it. The history is saved on a webpage at: http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com/myrl.html Everyone seems to get it and understand it, other than Ilena Rosenthal, whose agenda won't allow her to accept it, or she's too thick to get it! http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com > Myrl Jeffcoat ... who has been joined at the hip with the vaccination > / chemical industry apologists and promoters, asked this question: [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > Thanks for asking. "Myrl" <wisgroup_leader@yahoo.com> wrote in message snip This thread is not about IIena. > "Myrl" <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > snip > This thread is not about IIena. Jan - I keep telling you this is newsgroups, the wild, wild west of the internet. You don't get to have control of what goes on here! On May 19, 5:38 pm, "JanDrew" <JanDre...@comcast.net> wrote: > "Myrl" <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > snip > This thread is not about IIena. *Jan - I keep telling you this is newsgroups, the wild, wild west of the internet. You don't get to have control of what goes on here!* No problem, since I have never done that. Now--what were you saying about the issues being only to ASBI? > I believe the nonsense you and Coleah have written about vaccinations > and the Vac Lies you spread are just another phase of pro-Vac PR. Ilena- Since there is posturing for litigation over possible vaccine-autism links, and you seem to be promoting it, here's the question of the day - Which attorneys or PR interests are fueling you up with CBT or SKAPP money to hopscotch themselves to new business in the next class action in the sky? Have they recruited you as a head hunter for claimants, etc.? It would be interesting to know since it has been revealed that Common Benefit Trust money, which was set up for breast implant victim interests, has apparently been diverted to SKAPP to fund studies for other forms of litigation having nothing to do with breast implants. As one woman recently told me - Ilena Rosenthal only takes the side of an issue that is rich in litigation promotion for attorneys. It causes her to throw common sense to the winds. It is interesting to note that you are still in your name-calling and labeling mode rather than addressing the points of interest in any form of intelligent dialogue. Nice try at diversion, Myrl Jeffcoat! www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html You are now trying to claim that I am being paid by the TCC ? Sounds like when you and Coleah accuse me of working with Patrick O'leary WHILE you are joined at your hips with him ... projection projection projection! www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/patrickoleary.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/sbiprivateclub.htm Myrl Jeffcoat, Coleah Penley Ayers, Andrew M Langer, Patrick O'leary, and Snake-oil Team. > You are now trying to claim that I am being paid by the TCC ? Naw Ilena - that's not what I wrote, but nice try at diversion! However, it's highly suspected that you are paid as a shirt-tail beneficiary from either the CBT, SKAPP or some other diverted funds from the CBT. Your postings all have the slant of litigation based "science" - your anti-vaccination agenda for instance??? We're all curious how it is that CBT money meant to meet the interests of women harmed by breast implants, may be making it's way into your coffers. So it begs the question Ilena, who is your pay master? We all want to know! http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com "Myrl" <wisgroup_leader@yahoo.com> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/browse_frm/thread/3751 8048724c6995# Myrl Jeffcoat, once again ... reposting the ever anonymous voices in her ears ... made this claim: "Still others have concerns some Common Benefit Trust treasure may have found its way into attorney or PR firm coffers to fund anti- vaccination studies, mercury amalgam dentistry, free speech agendas, and other interests having nothing to do with breast implants whatsoever. And sometimes may even work at cross-purposes to our interests. As one woman said, It is patently wrong if attorneys are using CBT funding meant for implant women issues, on venues that may hop scotch them to future non-implant related business and litigation in the future. It may be studies on plastic baby and water bottles now, but what will it be next? I believe it is further public relations by the Junk Science / Quackwatch / Health Fraud pseudo-science team Myrl flacks for. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html Many of this team is seen here, hip to hip to hip: www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm I am thrilled to see this fine group standing up the fake science promoted by Jeffcoat and Barrett and the other Junk Science shills on vaccinations, alternative medicine, etc. I am still reading this piece ... http://defendingscience.org/upload/Michaels_Senate_EPW_Testimony_May08.pdf I can see why Milloy was whining about it ... and why Myrl & Coleah are putting out this disinformation. More coming as I learn more about this group ... brave Susan Wood is another of their scientists. She is the antithesis of a Steve Milloy or Stephen Barrett pushing industry science as"sound." Here is more information on her ... may God bless and protect her. http://www.defendingscience.org/Susan-Wood-bio.cfm From Dr. Zuckerman Sep 1 2005 A friend and colleague, Dr Susan Wood resigned from the FDA to protest their nonscientific decision to NOT approve Plan Be (emergency contraception) for nonprescription use. This is a big loss for those of us who care about women's health, but it is a symptom of the bigger problem -- FDA has become a political arm of the Administration, rather than a scientific one. We were quoted in today's Boston Globe on the topic. Dr. Wood's letter of resignation, and a statement that we issued jointly with several other women's health organizations are all below. Diana Diana Zuckerman, Ph.D. President National Research Center for Women & Families 1701 K Street, NW, Suite 700 Washington, DC 20006 (202) 223-4000 www.center4research.org FDA official quits over pill delay Wood blames politics for refusal to approve morning-after drug By Diedtra Henderson, Globe Staff | September 1, 2005 WASHINGTON -- A senior Food and Drug Administration official resigned yesterday to protest the agency's refusal to allow over-the-counter sales of emergency contraception. Susan F. Wood, director of the FDA's Office of Women's Health, detailed her decision in an e-mail to co-workers that was quickly distributed by Reproductive Health Technologies Project, a Washington group that lobbies for access to contraception. Wood, in an interview, said the FDA's credibility was at stake since it has twice overruled staff's recommendation to permit the morning-after pill Plan B to be purchased without a prescription. She said those decisions will undermine women's health. Last summer, the FDA overruled agency reviewers and federal advisers in denying Barr Laboratories' application to sell Plan B over the counter without age restrictions. In July, Barr tweaked its application, targeting over-the-counter sales to women 16 and older. Late Friday, FDA commissioner Lester Crawford said the agency would indefinitely delay its decision. FDA scientists determined women 17 and older could use the pill safely without a doctor's guidance, but the agency is unclear about how to enforce the age restriction. ''I'm not one to seek out this attention. The decision [to resign] was symbolic," Wood said. ''We've really let FDA down, and we've let the public down if we let this kind of decision move forward unchallenged." The FDA had been slated to decide whether to allow the sale of Plan B by Jan. 21, the eve of the anniversary of the Supreme Court's Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion. But the prospect of young girls purchasing pills without a prescription has become a moral and political land mine for regulators. ''This is talked about as a delay but, in reality, it's a denial for all women," Wood said. She said Crawford's pronouncement on Friday was so closely guarded that most FDA staffers -- including herself -- did not learn of it until that afternoon. Politics has trumped science in other FDA decisions, Wood said, but two years of maneuvering on Plan B has taken it to ''a new height." Crawford's disclosure is ''not based on the science and it's not based on the reality that use of this product prevents abortion if you can prevent an unintended pregnancy," she said. The FDA, in a press release, called Wood's resignation ''unfortunate" and described the agency as ''committed to protecting and advancing women's health." The morning-after pill packs the potency of a high dose of regular birth control. It is most effective when taken shortly after unprotected sex. FDA scientists concluded the pills, already used by more than 2.4 million American women, are safe. Federal advisers overwhelmingly agreed, and in December 2003 they backed over-the-counter sales with no age limitations. Seven states already permit women to buy the pills directly from certain pharmacies where pharmacists write the prescriptions. Massachusetts is poised to become the eighth state to permit such purchases if legislators override Governor Mitt Romney's veto of legislation allowing the sales. Some observers say Wood's departure is especially significant because she championed women's health issues inside and outside the FDA. It also fuels ongoing criticism that the agency ignored science in its handling of Plan B. ''I can no longer serve as staff when scientific and clinical evidence, fully evaluated and recommended for approval by the professional staff here, has been overruled," Wood wrote in her e-mail, echoing qualms expressed by Dr. John K. Jenkins, director of the FDA's Office of New Drugs, when FDA leaders overruled staff last summer. ''The FDA and the American people lost a strong voice for scientific integrity," said US senators Patty Murray, Democrat of Washington, and Hillary Rodham Clinton, Democrat of New York, in a press release. ''It is deeply disturbing that an agency long recognized for making decisions based on sound science has become so politicized that one of its most widely respected, long-serving veterans would feel disillusioned enough to quit in protest." Murray and Clinton are seeking a congressional hearing on the FDA's handling of Plan B, but the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee has not set a date. US Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, called Wood's resignation ''courageous" and criticized the FDA's delays as ''indefensible." A women's health advocate who has known Wood since the 1990s said her departure amounts to a vote of no-confidence in the FDA. ''Losing somebody like that is a big deal," said Diana Zuckerman, president of the National Research Center for Women and Families. ''It shows such a lack of confidence in the agency. If she thought she could do good there, she would have stayed." Wood, a former research scientist at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine's department of neuroscience, worked for the Congressional Caucus for Women's Issues from 1990 to 1995. After helping to develop women's health policy at the US Department of Health and Human Services, she became FDA's director of the Office of Women's Health in November 2000. Among other issues, Wood highlighted the public health implications of pregnant women metabolizing drugs differently than women who typically test drugs in clinical trials. While she ended her resignation letter with the hope of working with FDA ''in a different capacity," for now, Wood is unemployed. ''You close these sort of things with 'and I'll be doing x and y.' Well, I don't have that x and y yet," she said. ''I don't have a soft landing plan." Diedtra Henderson can be reached at dhender...@globe.com. From: Wood, Susan F [mailto:Susan.W...@fda.gov] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:23 AM To: OC OWH; Galson, Steven; Goodman, Jesse; Schultz, Daniel; Casciano, Dan; Kweder, Sandra L; Uhl, Kathleen; Kennedy, Dianne L; Houn, Florence; Shames, Daniel A; Monroe, Scott; Davis, Daniel; Stockbridge, Norman L; Toigo, Theresa A; Haffner, Marlene E; Alderson, Norris; Brackett, Robert; Tollefson, Linda R; Bull, Jonca; Temple, Robert; Yetter, Robert; Lepay, David; Spence, Monica; McGarey, Patrick; Plaisier, Melinda K; Lumpkin, Murray; Miller, Margaret Subject: Notice of Resignation Dear Friends and Colleagues, I regret to tell you that I am leaving the FDA, and will no longer be serving as the Assistant Commissioner for Women's Health and Director of the FDA Office of Women's Health. The recent decision announced by the Commissioner about emergency contraception, which continues to limit women's access to a product that would reduce unintended pregnancies and reduce abortions is contrary to my core commitment to improving and advancing women's health. I have spent the last 15 years working to ensure that science informs good health policy decisions. I can no longer serve as staff when scientific and clinical evidence, fully evaluated and recommended for approval by the professional staff here, has been overuled. I therefore have submitted my resignation effective today. I will greatly miss working with such an outstanding group of scientists, clinicians and support staff. FDA's staff is of the highest caliber and it has been a priviledge to work with you all. I hope to have future opportunities to work with you in a different capacity. Sincerely, Susan Susan F. Wood, PhD Assistant Commissioner for Women's Health Director, Office of Women's Health Food and Drug Administration Leaders of the Women's Health Community Commend Dr. Susan F. Wood for her Commitment to Promoting Women's Health and the Integrity of Science For Immediate Release: August 31, 2005 Washington, DC - The national effort to improve the health of women suffered a serious blow today with the resignation of Dr. Susan F. Wood as the director of the FDA's Office of Women's Health. Dr. Wood resigned in protest over the agency's handling of Plan B. She announced her resignation earlier today. The women's health community applauds Dr. Wood for her personal commitment to the FDA's mission of making science-based decisions to improve the health of the public and we are very sorry to lose her. Dr. Wood was one of the champions of a decade-long effort to improve women's health through increased federal research and support. Dr. Wood's impact on women's health was felt in many ways during her nearly 5 years at the FDA. She led the agency's effort to ensure that women were included in trials of new drugs and medical devices, and put into place reporting and recordkeeping systems that enabled researchers to quickly determine whether women were affected differently than men by specific products. Dr. Wood was also a key player in the FDA's efforts to increase our shared knowledge about the effects of medications used in pregnancy on the health of the fetus and the pregnant woman. Dr. Wood also demonstrated her leadership in women's health by creating new programs to communicate important health information to average women, such as the FDA's Take Time to Care campaign. She was awarded the Commissioner's Certificate of Excellence for her work on the agency's education campaign on menopause hormone therapy. Dr. Wood encouraged dialogue with the FDA on a broad range of women's health issues, from many avenues. She welcomed input from consumers as well as industry, health professionals and biomedical researchers. The resignation of Dr Wood is just one example of the damaging implications of the FDA's willingness to ignore clear scientific evidence and clear scientific shortcomings in their approval decisions for prescription drugs, medical devices, and other medical products. American women will be harmed directly by FDA's inappropriate decisions, as well as indirectly harmed when outstanding public servants decide to resign from this ailing agency. Contacts: Lorraine Cole, President Black Women's Health Imperative (202) 543-9311 Barbara Brenner, Executive Director Breast Cancer Action (415) 243-9301 Cindy Pearson, Executive Director National Women's Health Network (202) 347-1140 Judy Norsigian, Executive Director Our Bodies, Ourselves (617) 233-0062 Diana Zuckerman, President National Research Center for Women & Families (202) 223-4000 And once again Ilena the question remains, what are your thoughts about revelations that CBT funds were diverted to SKAPP??? Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: http://defendingscience.org/upload/Michaels_Senate_EPW_Testimony_May08.pdf It's 10000% clear why junk science supporters Steve Milloy & Myrl Jeffcoat & Coleah Penley Ayers were attacking SKAPP. SKAPP is exposing the fake 'sound science' industry junk science ... much like my work for 13 years now. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm www.BreastImplantawareness.org/coleah.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm Stephen Barrett, Andrew Langer etc. > Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htmwww.BreastImplantawareness .org/coleah.htmwww.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.htmlwww.BreastImplantAwarenes s.org/snake-oil.htm > Stephen Barrett, Andrew Langer etc. Thank you Ilena Rosenthal - That response is exactly what we thought you would say. So you feel it is ok that funds meant for the interests of women harmed by breast implants be diverted to funds that meet other extraneous interests, which may at times even been counter- productive to their interests. So Ilena - Once again, whose your pay master? How much are you funded to rant against vaccinations, mercury amalgams, free speech, etc.? Was the funding what made you go on the attack against your longterm friend and ally, Coleah? And turn her into an enemy because she was an ex-marine, with a different view in the early days of the Iraq War??? It appears to us, that you'd sell out one of your best friends for a little funding! http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com You are projecting again Jeffcoat. You and Coleah did 180's and went do where the money is. While working hip to hip with silicone flack & seller Patrick O'leary, Myrl & Coleah continue to claim I am paid by industry. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/sbiprivatecllub.htm Thanks for bringing upWarmongers Coleah Penley Ayers and Chicken Hawk Andrew M Langer and their take-over of alt.support.breast-implant to support the corporate backed and corporate benefited Iraqi Invasion & Destruction. They talk peace and wage war. Their corporate agenda has destroyed the dollar, the housing market, the reputation of the United States in the World, and cost the lives of millions and millions ... while their corporate backers like the oil industry basks in $123 BILLION in profits in 2007. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/LangerVsIlena.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/SBIPrivateClub.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/AEI-PNAC.htm > Thanks for bringing upWarmongers Coleah Penley Ayers and Chicken Hawk > Andrew M Langer and their take-over of alt.support.breast-implant to > support the corporate backed and corporate benefited Iraqi Invasion & > Destruction. Naw Ilena - The only person that has hijacked the breast implant issue to make it her own private battle ground is YOU! Your own warmongering, hate filled, libelous webpages are a testiment to that: A few representative links (as of 4/3/08) which Ilena has attributed in Usenet posts to those she, all by herself, has tagged as "Mine Enemies" (BTW - what kind of a person publicizes that they actually go around naming so many enemies?) * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Wikipedia.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/WikiArb1.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/WikiArb2.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Peter-Bowditch * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Stephen-Barrett * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Terry-Polevoy * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Gorski * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/propagandistProbert.html * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Mark-Probert * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Paul-Lee * 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http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#ProbertFoolingOnlyHimself * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#snoopy&myrltogetheragain * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#ProbertFoolingHimselfOnly * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#MyrlTheInterrogatorRidesAgain * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/ss.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/SS.html#CrotchFantasies * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/SS.html#ObsessionContinues * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/coleah.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/plant-myrl.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/bernard_patten.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#Moron * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#TantrumThrower * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#ObsessedNutter * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#ImpotentHarasser * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#ImpotentDictator * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#AnimalPerversions * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.htm#ObsessionContinues * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#ImpotentIdiotDictator * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#ImpotentIgnorantDictator * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/blog.htm * http://humanticsfoundation.com/coverup.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/patrickoleary.htm * www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/PatrickOleary.htm#Coleah * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/sbiprivateclub.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrljeffcoatdeclaration.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/nanaweedkiller.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/polevoy.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm#Polevoy * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#MyrlJeffcoat On May 18, 12:43 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote: > Thanks for bringing upWarmongers Coleah Penley Ayers and Chicken Hawk > Andrew M Langer and their take-over of alt.support.breast-implant to > support the corporate backed and corporate benefited Iraqi Invasion & > Destruction. Naw Ilena - The only person that has hijacked the breast implant issue to make it her own private battle ground is YOU! Your own warmongering, hate filled, libelous webpages are a testiment to that: *hate filled* Whasamatter, Myrl, cannot stand the truth? A few representative links (as of 4/3/08) which Ilena has attributed in Usenet posts to those she, all by herself, has tagged as "Mine Enemies" (BTW - what kind of a person publicizes that they actually go around naming so many enemies?) * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Wikipedia.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/WikiArb1.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/WikiArb2.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Peter-Bowditch * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Stephen-Barrett * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Terry-Polevoy * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Gorski * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/propagandistProbert.html * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Mark-Probert * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Paul-Lee * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Robert-Baratz * www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWAtch.htm#Baratz-Lies * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/disinfoagentsfaq.htm#Brandon-Stahl * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#David-Wright * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Kingoff * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Andrew-Kingoff * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Rosalind-Dalefield * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Willa-Nidiffer * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/ladyni.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/maan.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/kingbio.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/threats.htm * http://www.breastimplantawareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Vernon * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Thorson * http://drstephenbarrettmd.blogspot.com/2006/02/clone-of-salem-witch-hunter-part- 1.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/Matrix.html * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Crohnie * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Susan-Ferris * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Posse * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/WillaNidiffer.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#Nana * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/AEI-PNAC.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/KayKnedlik.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-lies.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/coleah-suicidelies.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/andysposse.htm#Langer&Dowd * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/defamation.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/quacklibelsuit.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#nidiffer * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm#Rag-tag * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#BarrettsParrot * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/KayKnedlik.htm#joyce * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/KayKnedlik.htm#Sharynn * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/quack-suppdeclaration.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/QuackbustersVsIlena.htm#guerrillas * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/PropagandistProbert.htm#WillNOTKetcher * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/QuackbustersVsIlena.htm#ProbertWasDisbarred * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm#PamsScam * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm#Rag-TagGuerrillas * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/#LangerDowdMurdock * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm#WebofDeceit * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/BarrettVsRosenthal.htm * http://drstephenbarrettmd.blogspot.com/2006/02/clone-of-salem-witch-hun ter-part-1.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/QUACK-QW-HF-ACSH.html * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/PropgandistProbert.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/sandraprobert.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/coleah-suicidelies.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html#SiliconeShufflin'Grannie * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/SandraProbert.htm#HusbandDisbarred * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html#losesLawLicense * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html#BustedAgain * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html#CowardBeyondMeasure * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html#ProbertLiesAboutDrop pingAOL * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#yahoo * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/Myrl.html#Networks * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#DaveyDow * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#MoralsInAbsentia * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#BrainsInAbsentia * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#LovesTeddy * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#GoddessofGooglingNana * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#JoinedAtHerHipsWithNana * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/WithoutSin.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/WithoutSin.htm#MurdockPlagarizes * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/WithoutSin.htm#MyrlFlirtswithPlant * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/WithoutSin.htm#ServingJunkScientistO'leary * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/WithoutSin.htm#MyrlGushesOverPlant * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/WithoutSin.htm#PlantsStalkingFantasies * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/DisinfoAgents.htm#DragonLiar * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/nanaweedkiller.htm#Dalefield * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/DisinfoAgents.htm#Skeptic * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#articles * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#SnoopysBack * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#Plantsqueaks * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#PlantPushes * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/blog.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#BarrettsParrott * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgentsFAQ.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgentsFAQ.htm#WrongerThanWright * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#plant * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#fuzzyandy * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgentsFAQ.htm#WrongerThanWright * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/Disinfoagents.htm#PlantLiesAgain * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#ProbertTheCoward * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#DentalDeityfromSatan * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgentsFAQ.htm#Wrongerthanwright * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#ProbertFoolingOnlyHimself * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#snoopy&myrltogetheragain * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#ProbertFoolingHimselfOnly * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#MyrlTheInterrogatorRidesAgain * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/ss.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/SS.html#CrotchFantasies * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/SS.html#ObsessionContinues * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/coleah.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/plant-myrl.html * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/bernard_patten.htm * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#Moron * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#TantrumThrower * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#ObsessedNutter * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#ImpotentHarasser * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#ImpotentDictator * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#AnimalPerversions * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.htm#ObsessionContinues * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#ImpotentIdiotDictator * http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#ImpotentIgnorantDictator * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/blog.htm * http://humanticsfoundation.com/coverup.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/patrickoleary.htm * www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/PatrickOleary.htm#Coleah * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/sbiprivateclub.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrljeffcoatdeclaration.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/nanaweedkiller.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/polevoy.htm * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm#Polevoy * http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#MyrlJeffcoat > Thanks for bringing upWarmongers Coleah Penley Ayers and Chicken Hawk > Andrew M Langer and their take-over of alt.support.breast-implant to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > of millions and millions ... while their corporate backers like the > oil industry basks in $123 BILLION in profits in 2007. Dang, you certainly do 'advertise' me as being one very powerful person!! -- --On May 18, 2:43 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote: > Thanks for bringing upWarmongers Coleah Penley Ayers and Chicken Hawk > Andrew M Langer and their take-over of alt.support.breast-implant to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > of millions and millions ... while their corporate backers like the > oil industry basks in $123 BILLION in profits in 2007. Dang, you certainly do 'advertise' me as being one very powerful person!! -- You mean like the pictures you had posted on your sick web site? > --On May 18, 2:43 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > -- > You mean like the pictures you had posted on your sick web site? http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com/47.jpg Jan Drew, you are such a 'picky person' On May 21, 12:44 am, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > "Coleah" <col...@pacifier.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > -- > You mean like the pictures you had posted on your sick web site? http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com/47.jpg Jan Drew, you are such a 'picky person' Showing your true colors again. Not practicing Christian. *Yesterday's newspaper..................I told you I removed that "webPAGE" last week. People are on earth to express their love and acceptance of one another. With some folks we have a harder time accepting even one cell about them that is lovable, so our communication with them is.....ah, at a pretty low level. It's a waste of time to dwell too long with our 'low-level loved ones', for we also appear as such. I hope you don't get stuck in that muck, as I have in the past. Coleah* > On May 21, 12:44 am, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Jan, you appear 'stuck in that muck'!!!!! Hi, 'low-level' !!! Very interesting findings today ... after junk science shills Steve Milloy and Myrl & Coleah began their rants about the breast implant Common Benefit Fund. The more I read about them ... the more I saw that they were defending real science against the corporate indutry science purveyors at junkscience.com and quackwatch.com and acsh.org. http://www.tortcomm.org/committee.shtml Wondering who to thank for the research being funded from the fund Myrl / Milloy were whining about ... and this is who I found. Sybil Niden Goldrich of California, a former breast implant claimant and consumer advocate who has been active in breast implant issues for almost 20 years. She served as a member of the Tort Claimants' Committee (specifically on the negotiating team), and is Chair of the Common Benefit Fund in the MDL 926 breast implant proceeding in Birmingham, Alabama. > Sybil Niden Goldrich of California, a former breast implant claimant > and consumer advocate who has been active in breast implant issues for > almost 20 years. She served as a member of the Tort Claimants' > Committee (specifically on the negotiating team), and is Chair of the > Common Benefit Fund in the MDL 926 breast implant proceeding in > Birmingham, Alabama. Absolutely correct Ilena. Sybil Niden Goldrich is a class act, who is ground zero to the $4.2 Billion dollar settlement for breast implant claimants. I have seen no indication that she has embraced any anti-vaccination, mercury amalgam, free speech agendas like you have however! I also have seen absolutely no evidence that Sybil has treated our women anythng but warmly, and professionally. What we are trying to determine now Ilena, is who is it that has been feeding you and keeping you in our midst as an abusive, warmongering, disruption agent. It has been fully noted, that after your meeting with Nate Schactman (Bristol-Meyer-Squibb attorney), in Pointer's courtroom, that you have stepped up your efforts in that regard! Not long after, you began your "sh.t-list" webpages, which abuse and libel a number of people, including many women harmed by breast implants, and their legitimate advocates. http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com "Myrl" <wisgroup_leader@yahoo.com> <snip blather> > Thanks for bringing upWarmongers Coleah Penley Ayers and Chicken Hawk > Andrew M Langer and their take-over of alt.support.breast-implant to > support the corporate backed and corporate benefited Iraqi Invasion & > Destruction. > They talk peace and wage war. > Their corporate agenda has destroyed the dollar, the housing market, > the reputation of the United States in the World, and cost the lives > of millions and millions ... while their corporate backers like the > oil industry basks in $123 BILLION in profits in 2007. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm wrote: Dang, you certainly do 'advertise' me as being one very powerful person!! ~~~ Wrong. You are just the low rung on the PR / flack scale. repeating the lies of the administration and supporting their Warmongering while causing distraction and adding support to their high paid flacks like Chicken Hawk Andrew Langer. Who is funding his socalled "Institute for Liberty" ... since you and he and Myrl are obsessed with funding ? ? ? ? -- > > Thanks for bringing upWarmongers Coleah Penley Ayers and Chicken Hawk > > Andrew M Langer and their take-over of alt.support.breast-implant to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Wrong. You are just the low rung on the PR / flack scale. B.S., Ilena......"and their take-over of alt.support.breast-implant". When YOU advertise that ANYONE is capable of 'taking over' anything....You are promoting them to being POWERFUL PERSONS. Thank you so very, very much. > Who is funding his socalled "Institute for Liberty" ... since you and > he and Myrl are obsessed with funding ? ? ? ? As Jan Drew would say.....this thread is not about the Institute of Liberty! I think the original questions were about how you (Crusader Rabbit that you are) managed to tap into CBT funds...winky winky. Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/ (from a similar thread ... ) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/browse_thread/thread/6 e102ce9804ddb88/30f0bf9eb307b496#30f0bf9eb307b496 Women's Institute for Silicone Education and Research Since the only other reference to this was written by Corporate Mouth, Junk Journalist Steven Milloy (close business etc friends with Andrew M Langer) ... this is beginning to seem like another attack of the corporations and their attorneys that Milloy etc. wages ... on the plaintiffs bar and health activists. The false and revealing accusation by Myrl Jeffcoat that I was paid by Burson-Marsteller is to me, akin to her claiming I worked with silicone sellers with she & Coleah having taken over the "Patrick O'leary Cause." www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/andysposse.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Langer Andrew Langer, a professional fake "sound sound expert" for years was embedding into the breast implant issue working closely with Coleah & Myrl. I further do not yet understand why for some reason Sybil Goldrich is not being directly asked since Milloy's propaganda exposing this entity was that this related to her in some way. If I were a bettin' woman ... I would bet that Milloy and Barrett and the rest of the Quackwatch / Junk Science corporate PR 'whores' ... are using Myrl & Coleah & Pam as "insiders" of the breast implant cause to help them augment their years of legal and PR attacks against plaintiff's attorneys and activities. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm On the earlier thread where Myrl Jeffcoat specifically was screeching about anti-vaccination and anti-amalgam research which was coming obviously from the voices in her head ... the most notable PR team is the Junk Science / Quackwatch Snake-oil Vigilante team that heads those (and other health issue corporate positions throughout Usenet and the rest of the internet.) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/browse_thread/thread/3 7518048724c6995# I will be posting more about what my studies on SKAFF (also a Milloy revelation) and the Common Benefit Fund when I catch a moment. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html Myrl ... the answer to your very self revealing question you keep repeating ... no I do not work with any silicone manufacturing entitity nor have I ever, and I receive no money from Burson Marsteller or any of their quacky frontgroups etc. ... nor do I receive compensation in any way from any attorney or claimants groups. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Andysposse.htm Myrl, Patrick O'leary, Andrew Langer, Coleah Penley Ayers, etc. etc. Very interesting ... www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/ http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com Pam Dowd wrote: Women's Institute for Silicone Education and Research Anyone know what this is/was? Who was involved? Did any research ever come out of it? I had never seen this organization mentioned until recently. Pam Dowd Implant Veterans of Toxic Exposure Well Ilena, here's the thing - you aren't a breast implant victim. Your interest in the breast implant issue has always been about how you can make money off the women I can understand your interests in diverting CBT money to SLAPP would feel great for you, while helping to run your dog and pony show up to Canada, or on to another issue - All at breast implant victim expense. As you know, our PR firms have apparently been cut off at the knees from any further funding for our issues, while efforts are made to rally our train off it's existing track, and up to Canada on other non- related issues. The baby bottle issue may be a lofty goal. It may have considerable merit. Overturning Daubert may also be a worthwhile effort for those seeking future non-implant related class action litigation. But those benefitting from this will only be attorneys, and extraneous individuals, who ARE NOT breast implant victims. Over turning Daubert NOW, will not aid us. Baby bottles is another issue. Mercury Amalgam dentistry is another issue. Anti-vaccination is another issue. None of this has anything to do with breast implant women, NOR should it be funded by them! At least not without disclosure. BUT once again, we fully understand why you would wish it so! http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com > Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/ > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > Pam Dowd > Implant Veterans of Toxic Exposure www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html Myrl Jeffcoat projects her relationship witlh industry onto me ... while she wages her I Hate Ilena Rosenthal campaign and writes a bunch of intentional nonsense and confusion. For those who want to know who I am and what I believe, and not Myrl and the Quackwatch Loser's Version of who they wish I were ... please visit: www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/ http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com > www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html > Myrl Jeffcoat projects her relationship witlh industry onto me ... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com I've never asked anyone to unquestionably believe me. I've merely pointed them in the right direction, where they can search the facts and truth surrounding Ilena Rosenthal and her foundation. Interested folks can also search the archives. http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com Read it and weap! Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/ (from a similar thread ... ) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/browse_thread/thread/6 e102ce9804ddb88/30f0bf9eb307b496#30f0bf9eb307b496 Women's Institute for Silicone Education and Research Since the only other reference to this was written by Corporate Mouth, Junk Journalist Steven Milloy (close business etc friends with Andrew M Langer) ... this is beginning to seem like another attack of the corporations and their attorneys that Milloy etc. wages ... on the plaintiffs bar and health activists. The false and revealing accusation by Myrl Jeffcoat that I was paid by Burson-Marsteller is to me, akin to her claiming I worked with silicone sellers with she & Coleah having taken over the "Patrick O'leary Cause." www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/andysposse.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Langer Andrew Langer, a professional fake "sound sound expert" for years was embedding into the breast implant issue working closely with Coleah & Myrl. I further do not yet understand why for some reason Sybil Goldrich is not being directly asked since Milloy's propaganda exposing this entity was that this related to her in some way. If I were a bettin' woman ... I would bet that Milloy and Barrett and the rest of the Quackwatch / Junk Science corporate PR 'whores' ... are using Myrl & Coleah & Pam as "insiders" of the breast implant cause to help them augment their years of legal and PR attacks against plaintiff's attorneys and activities. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm On the earlier thread where Myrl Jeffcoat specifically was screeching about anti-vaccination and anti-amalgam research which was coming obviously from the voices in her head ... the most notable PR team is the Junk Science / Quackwatch Snake-oil Vigilante team that heads those (and other health issue corporate positions throughout Usenet and the rest of the internet.) http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/browse_thread/thread/3 7518048724c6995# I will be posting more about what my studies on SKAFF (also a Milloy revelation) and the Common Benefit Fund when I catch a moment. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html Myrl ... the answer to your very self revealing question you keep repeating ... no I do not work with any silicone manufacturing entitity nor have I ever, and I receive no money from Burson Marsteller or any of their quacky frontgroups etc. ... nor do I receive compensation in any way from any attorney or claimants groups. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Andysposse.htm Myrl, Patrick O'leary, Andrew Langer, Coleah Penley Ayers, etc. etc. Very interesting ... www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/ http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com Pam Dowd wrote: Women's Institute for Silicone Education and Research Anyone know what this is/was? Who was involved? Did any research ever come out of it? I had never seen this organization mentioned until recently. Pam Dowd Implant Vet |
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