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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / May 2008HIV and More in Vaccines
Nothing I'd heard about vaccines approximates what is contained in this censored video with the top vaccine developer at Merck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaokq8v9JPI&feature=email I had heard that there was HIV in vaccines just yesterday. I blew it off as mind-bending disinfo. But when friend sent me the link to a corroborating video. I could not believe what I saw and heard. It seems it's not only true, developing vaccines with monkeys' proteins was the way in which HIV got into the US. HIV is only one of the 40 some odd viruses in vaccines. Leukemia is another. And there are preservatives that they use for cadavers in vaccines. And there's more...I wasn't able to absorb all the information in this video in the first veiwing. D2 > Nothing I'd heard about vaccines approximates what is contained in > this censored video with the top vaccine developer at Merck: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I had heard that there was HIV in vaccines just yesterday. I blew it > off as mind-bending disinfo. It is. > But when friend sent me the link to a corroborating video. I could not > believe what I saw and heard. For good reason. > It seems it's not only true, developing vaccines with monkeys' > proteins was the way in which HIV got into the US. Neat trick, since HIV has been in the USA since the 1950s, just not recognized until about 1980. > HIV is only one of the 40 some odd viruses in vaccines. You mean besides the ones deliberately put there? > Leukemia is another. here's a clue: leukemia isn't a virus. > And there are preservatives that they use for cadavers in vaccines. Formaldehyde, in trace amounts. Yup -- it's also produced by your liver. Pears are rich in it. Pears have more per gram than vaccines do. Don't go for pear-sized vaccines. > And there's more...I wasn't able to absorb all the information in this > video in the first veiwing. That way lies madness. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ Dc's doo doo removed. If someone with better creditability were to post on this it would be very cool. > Dc's doo doo removed. If someone with better creditability were to post on > this it would be very cool. If you want to hear the "other" side of the AIDS issue you should go to: Google video. Search for Gary Null. Choose "Deconstructing the Myth of AIDS." You will view a well done documentary presenting the data and viewpoints of worldclass scientists. My conclusion is that AIDS is the best medical hoax of the last century, much better than the Polio hoax. AIDS should have been termed DIDS, if one wished to be honest and scientifically correct. However, the internet was not around during the polio hoax and the start of the AIDS hoax. The authorities controlled all the information. The internet is here now, and we had better make the best use of it. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. > My conclusion is that AIDS is the best medical hoax of the last > century, much better than the Polio hoax. AIDS should have been [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > information. The internet is here now, and we had better make the > best use of it. Can I quote you on that? | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ >> Dc's doo doo removed. If someone with better creditability were to post on >> this it would be very cool. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >DrCee >You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. And when will you or Gary let yourself be injected with live HIV? > On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:36:46 -0700 (PDT), drcee...@insightbb.com > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Probably when you and the pharma shills isolate live HIV. All you have to date is theory. So far, all you have is a "memory" of a " possible" exposure. Sorry, but I no longer am afraid of nightmares, particulary when manufactured by liars and con artists. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. >> On Wed, 14 May 2008 07:36:46 -0700 (PDT), drcee...@insightbb.com >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Probably when you and the pharma shills isolate live HIV. Great! Let's make an appointment then. Just say where and when. > All you have to date is theory. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >DrCee >You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. >>> Dc's doo doo removed. If someone with better creditability were to post on >>> this it would be very cool. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > And when will you or Gary let yourself be injected with live HIV? Be nice. No ethical practitioner would do that. On the other hand, there are quite a few men in various parts of the world who are HIV-positive and wouldn't mind doing something sorta similar. Alternately, there are some mosquitos in Washington just *dying* to meet them. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ top posted yep...go to Null's article published 10 years ago in Penthouse Magazine....surely a believable source...NOT Null is nothing but a "shill" for the money he makes selling books etc..and oh yes..a talk show and radio host..oh right,....he was batted off the radio for scientific info on Null and his stupidity...read what ACTUP.NY wrote about him...oh wait..that was 1-17-2006...surely more up to date that Null's bs published many years ago for instance..Null insists that sex partners of HIV+ individuals do not EVER become + themselves...tell that to the 10-20% who do...many of whom I have seen..and had to tell that they are indeed HIV +... Null reminds me of another guru of nothing ...Kevin Trudeau...tho Kevin has managed to get himself arrested numerous times for the BS he blurts... by the way...1995...HIV was 8th leading cause of death in the usa...but then the "denialists" such as Null come up with excuses for that as well... one does not need a "live virus" to prove existence of an illness....prescence of antibodies..very low levels of CD4 white cells...etc...tell the story but go on...believe what you want to believe... hopefully you are not having sex with gay men,,,or otherwise "infected" individuals...or your laughter will be on the other side of your face On May 14, 9:21 am, "news" <tool...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dc's doo doo removed. If someone with better creditability were to post on > this it would be very cool. If you want to hear the "other" side of the AIDS issue you should go to: Google video. Search for Gary Null. Choose "Deconstructing the Myth of AIDS." You will view a well done documentary presenting the data and viewpoints of worldclass scientists. My conclusion is that AIDS is the best medical hoax of the last century, much better than the Polio hoax. AIDS should have been termed DIDS, if one wished to be honest and scientifically correct. However, the internet was not around during the polio hoax and the start of the AIDS hoax. The authorities controlled all the information. The internet is here now, and we had better make the best use of it. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. Hawki's rant deleted. Hawki has convinced me that this person, either male or female, is so perverted, so brainwashed, so indoctrinated, that they will never, ever, be able to get their head out of their a.s. It is abundantly clear to any thinking person with access to the internet that: Polio was a hoax. AIDS is a hoax. That HPV and cancer is another hoax. Piss off Hawki. You will not and cannot confuse or delude another knowledgeable internet capable person. Only the sheeple are internet ignorant and would accept your propaganda. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. > Hawki has convinced me that this person, either male or female, is so > perverted, so brainwashed, so indoctrinated, that they will never, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > AIDS is a hoax. > That HPV and cancer is another hoax. I think that very neatly sums up your position on the subject. Any further discussion with you on them should refer to this post. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ no ....with 45 years of "real " experience...such as taking care of those with polio that were confined to iron lungs.... some of us do not to have to be "internet savy" to laugh at you and yours that use the likes of Gary Null as a source... as DC says...anytime you want to be injected or exposed to an HIV+ person...be it via blood or sex...we may well get rid of you... On May 14, 3:59 pm, "Hawki" <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Hawki's rant deleted. Hawki has convinced me that this person, either male or female, is so perverted, so brainwashed, so indoctrinated, that they will never, ever, be able to get their head out of their a.s. It is abundantly clear to any thinking person with access to the internet that: Polio was a hoax. AIDS is a hoax. That HPV and cancer is another hoax. Piss off Hawki. You will not and cannot confuse or delude another knowledgeable internet capable person. Only the sheeple are internet ignorant and would accept your propaganda. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. : It is abundantly clear to any thinking person with access to the : internet that: : : Polio was a hoax. How do you explain all of those people in iron lungs? What do you think caused Itzhak Perlman to need braces on his legs and crutches to be able to walk? Oh, I forgot -- you aren't a thinking person. ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time." -- The French Knight > : It is abundantly clear to any thinking person with access to the > : internet that: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > caused Itzhak Perlman to need braces on his legs and crutches to be > able to walk? He's already told us that they were staged (oops!) to justify the polio vaccine. Once the vaccine appeared, the faked paralysis wasn't needed any more and was stopped so as to make the vaccine appear effective. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ :> : It is abundantly clear to any thinking person with access to the :> : internet that: :> : Polio was a hoax. :> How do you explain all of those people in iron lungs? What do you think :> caused Itzhak Perlman to need braces on his legs and crutches to be :> able to walk? : He's already told us that they were staged (oops!) to justify : the polio vaccine. Once the vaccine appeared, the faked : paralysis wasn't needed any more and was stopped so as to make : the vaccine appear effective. Has he explained what incentive was given to people to make it worth their while to spend their lives in an iron lung? Or do you mean that he claims that the "polio victims" were really paralyzed but that the paralysis was induced by the doctors (curare, cutting nerves, etc.) in order to convince the world that there was such a thing as polio? How does he explain FDR (who contracted polio after he was already an adult)? And why is Itzhak Perlman still unable to walk without crutches? And how is it that, AFAIK -- and I hope I'm wrong here, his career as a concert violinist appears to be more or less over because of development of symptoms commonly attributed to "post-polio syndrome"? ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- The gardener plants an evergreen whilst trampling on a flower. . . > :> : It is abundantly clear to any thinking person with access to the > :> : internet that: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > concert violinist appears to be more or less over because of development of > symptoms commonly attributed to "post-polio syndrome"? As I'm sure you're aware, he is selective in his explanations. For instance, I'm still waiting to find out what he objects to in the care of influenza victims in the 1918 epidemic that (as he has told us) caused all of the deaths, or in the care of cholera patients that (as he has told us) causes all cholera deaths to be iatrogenic. I suppose we could add the 1916 polio epidemic to that list, except that he has already informed us that it was a hoax. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ : For instance, I'm still waiting to find out what he objects to in : the care of influenza victims in the 1918 epidemic that (as he : has told us) caused all of the deaths, or in the care of cholera : patients that (as he has told us) causes all cholera deaths to : be iatrogenic. And I suppose that people who contract influenza or cholera and die without medical intervention actually died from something else. Did Tchaikovsky get medical attention for his cholera? ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- The gardener plants an evergreen whilst trampling on a flower. . . > : For instance, I'm still waiting to find out what he objects to in > : the care of influenza victims in the 1918 epidemic that (as he [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > without medical intervention actually died from something else. Did > Tchaikovsky get medical attention for his cholera? I don't believe he's ever addressed that point. Then again, there are a lot of points he hasn't addressed; there seems to be a strong correlation between asking him to explain the specifics of his religion and subsequent silence. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ >> In article ><72dd7a84-8e35-4932-8ac3-ad01d603713e@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >paralysis wasn't needed any more and was stopped so as to make >the vaccine appear effective. I'll have to pass this news along to a friend of mine who has post-polio syndrome. It'll be a great relief to her to know that she can stop faking her symptoms. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers." -- John Dolan >Hawki's rant deleted. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Polio was a hoax. I happen to know a polio victim. An older lady from Thailand, who wasn't vaccinated. She doesn't look like a hoax to me. >AIDS is a hoax. So, when can we inject you with HIV? >That HPV and cancer is another hoax. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >DrCee >You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. Interesting that in individual cases, through pure chance, natural selection doesn't weed out stupidity like this. But when we make the appointment to have you injected with HIV (and of course, you will refuse to take anti-viral drugs afterwards), you will certainly be up for a Darwin Award. > >Polio was a hoax. > > I happen to know a polio victim. An older lady from Thailand, who > wasn't vaccinated. She doesn't look like a hoax to me. Let's correct the semantics here. I was referring to the polio EPIDEMIC, not the disease polio. In a time and age where the weekly salary was $50 or less, why were the docs offered $25 for reporting every diagnosis of polio? Please explain that to us. Why was it that after the supposed vaccine was available, the $25 bounty on a polio diagnosis vanished? Why was it that the diagnosis of polio changed from 48 hrs with paralysis to 3 months and two complete medical workups before a diagnosis of polio could be made? Why did the rate of polio then decrease while the rate of aseptic meningitis increased to make up the difference? If you cannot see the obvious lies and deceit just described, then no amount of data would, or could, convince you of anything. The polio epidemic was a hoax. The germ theory of disease is false. The truth will have to be found elsewhere. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. and you are a jerk... but then we all knew this long ago.... On May 15, 3:25 pm, Martin <idontwan...@spam.com> wrote: > >Polio was a hoax. > > I happen to know a polio victim. An older lady from Thailand, who > wasn't vaccinated. She doesn't look like a hoax to me. Let's correct the semantics here. I was referring to the polio EPIDEMIC, not the disease polio. In a time and age where the weekly salary was $50 or less, why were the docs offered $25 for reporting every diagnosis of polio? Please explain that to us. Why was it that after the supposed vaccine was available, the $25 bounty on a polio diagnosis vanished? Why was it that the diagnosis of polio changed from 48 hrs with paralysis to 3 months and two complete medical workups before a diagnosis of polio could be made? Why did the rate of polio then decrease while the rate of aseptic meningitis increased to make up the difference? If you cannot see the obvious lies and deceit just described, then no amount of data would, or could, convince you of anything. The polio epidemic was a hoax. The germ theory of disease is false. The truth will have to be found elsewhere. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. >> >Polio was a hoax. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Why did the rate of polio then decrease while the rate of aseptic >meningitis increased to make up the difference? It didn't. You've been spewing this crap about how aseptic meningitis is really polio. It's not. The symptoms are different and the number of aseptic meningitis cases never rose to the levels of polio cases. But we know you can't handle numbers. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers." -- John Dolan On May 15, 8:15 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > > >Polio was a hoax. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the docs offered $25 for reporting every diagnosis of polio? Please > explain that to us. Please prove that. > Why was it that after the supposed vaccine was available, the $25 > bounty on a polio diagnosis vanished? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > The polio epidemic was a hoax. The germ theory of disease is false. > The truth will have to be found elsewhere. Chuckie, try to think with something other than your pus.
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