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Worried about Acid - Alkaline balance?

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RF - 08 May 2008 01:40 GMT
I don't recall any discussion of this topic in
these groups. Please excuse if I missed it.

Whole Foods had an article about it on their web
site until recently but it now appears to be
missing. Has the subject gone out of fashion? I
just did a search on the Mayo Clinic web site and
all that came up was an article about kidney stones.

TIA
Mark Thorson - 08 May 2008 02:48 GMT
> I don't recall any discussion of this topic in
> these groups. Please excuse if I missed it.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> just did a search on the Mayo Clinic web site and
> all that came up was an article about kidney stones.

Gone out of fashion?  Yes, more than 50 years ago,
but it is kept alive by pseudonutritionists that
need some basis for telling you that what mainstream
nutritional science says is wrong.

See, for example:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html
Marshall Price - 13 May 2008 22:07 GMT
>> I don't recall any discussion of this topic in
>> these groups. Please excuse if I missed it.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html

  Does that article imply that the phosphoric acid in Pepsi and Coke
cannot lower blood pH?

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D. C. Sessions - 13 May 2008 22:29 GMT
>    Does that article imply that the phosphoric acid in Pepsi and Coke
> cannot lower blood pH?

There's "lower" and "lower measurably."  How much do you expect a
12-oz can of pop to lower serum pH?  That's an easy one to test.

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Marshall Price - 16 May 2008 19:40 GMT
>>    Does that article imply that the phosphoric acid in Pepsi and Coke
>> cannot lower blood pH?
>
> There's "lower" and "lower measurably."  How much do you expect a
> 12-oz can of pop to lower serum pH?  That's an easy one to test.

  How?

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monty1945@lycos.com - 08 May 2008 04:17 GMT
RF:

Are you aware of pubmed.com?  If not, go there and do your research.
Present us with studies you think support your claim, and of course
please specify exactly what your claim is.  If you do this, I'll be
happy to take a look at your presentation and provide an opinion.
RF - 08 May 2008 16:28 GMT
> RF:
>
> Are you aware of pubmed.com?  If not, go there and do your research.
> Present us with studies you think support your claim, and of course
> please specify exactly what your claim is.  If you do this, I'll be
> happy to take a look at your presentation and provide an opinion.

You completely misread my post, or you can't read
English. I made NO claim.
monty1945@lycos.com - 08 May 2008 18:28 GMT
Someone needs to make a claim - otherwise, what are we doing on a
scientific forum?  I don't care if it is your claim or someone
else's.  Obviously, if you are asking about a claim, you must have
read about it somewhere.  Can you provide any information on it?
Saying that it was on a "health food" guru's web site at some point in
the past is not going to help clarify what the claim is.  Perhaps this
guru realized it was nonsense and took it down, lest he/she might lose
credibility (however much such a person has in the first place)?
crisology - 09 May 2008 10:11 GMT
On May 8, 1:28 pm, monty1...@lycos.com wrote:
> Someone needs to make a claim -

Without seeing studies to verify the claims, I wasn't sold on the acid/
alkaline diet theory being the cause of all the diseases that some
people claimed, except potentially in the cases of bone disease &
indigestion (especially if mixing foods). I also suspect there is more
metabolic energy used in neutralizing acidic effects of foods
depending on food mixing. I've heard ph variation in diet is like
temperature variation and the body adjusts. For what it is worth, I
generally feel I digest monotrophic/non-acidic meals best and I assume
I'm absorbing more nutrients this way. If I eat something acidic I try
to eat it 20 minutes before or after less acidic foods so I have time
to adjust to digest best.

I noticed there was more info even in PubMed articles several years
ago in regards to bone demineralization and acidic foods but in the
last few years I see less. I did read a couple less popular
explanations or theories of bone disease relating to dairy other than
the ph issues though.

What are your thoughts please?

Organically,
Chris
Jan Drew - 09 May 2008 04:04 GMT
>I don't recall any discussion of this topic in these groups. Please excuse
>if I missed it.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> TIA

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/
RF - 09 May 2008 06:20 GMT
>> I don't recall any discussion of this topic in these groups. Please
>> excuse if I missed it.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/

Now that's what I call
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy out.
 
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