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Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 06 May 2008 21:27 GMT Who do I thank for the FREE internet wireless provider, other than my own---with all of the hackers codes in my computer?
Robosoft Technologies?? That's nothing I put in there. No wonder there is a problem.
Linksys---I do not buy that equipment.
It would appear there were a lot of computer experts from numerous places adding all sorts of stuff that I did not know about until today.
Who, do I thank? I want to make sure the proper hackers get the full credit that they deserve, and since I only post to this forum, I can only guess it came from here.
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 07 May 2008 01:19 GMT On May 6, 1:27 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote:
Lookie, look....I'm posting from Comcast, and I don't even have it in my home!! I forget, who is it that is well "connected" at Comcast that posts here? Hmm....
And it shows up as if I was posting on the East Coast....isn't this terrrific?
Message from discussion Who do I thank??? View parsed - Show only message text Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!postnews.google.com! t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Butterflies1...@gmail.com Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Subject: Who do I thank??? Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 13:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3706fc96- d614-4ad9-8105-8fcbfaed3649@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.18.11.101 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1210105631 17673 127.0.0.1 (6 May 2008 20:27:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 20:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting- host=24.18.11.101; posting-account=OjhGBAoAAAA_hmxRZEKotzASJCNWKM78 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.13 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1 Safari/ 525.13,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Who do I thank for the FREE internet wireless provider, other than my own---with all of the hackers codes in my computer?
Robosoft Technologies?? That's nothing I put in there. No wonder there is a problem.
Linksys---I do not buy that equipment.
It would appear there were a lot of computer experts from numerous places adding all sorts of stuff that I did not know about until today.
Who, do I thank? I want to make sure the proper hackers get the full credit that they deserve, and since I only post to this forum, I can only guess it came from here.
David Wright - 07 May 2008 03:54 GMT >On May 6, 1:27 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >And it shows up as if I was posting on the East Coast....isn't this >terrrific? Comcast isn't even mentioned anywhere in what you posted, so how are you managing to drag them into the discussion?
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers." -- John Dolan
>Message from discussion Who do I thank??? >View parsed - Show only message text [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >credit that they deserve, and since I only post to this forum, I can >only guess it came from here. Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 07 May 2008 06:13 GMT > Comcast isn't even mentioned anywhere in what you posted, so how are > you managing to drag them into the discussion? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to take the number, throw it into http://www.arin.net, and figure out where it is coming from.
Here's the posting host: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.18.11.101 It pulled up Comcast.
I do not have Comcast...it would not be the Wright choice for me, but know there would appear to be people connected to Comcast in our friendly circle ----
There was even more entertainment today -- it would appear that my computer was turned into a server, and you would not believe the hackers codes that were found. As I understand it, my computer appears to have been cloned, so whatever I was doing online, where I was going, who I wrote to in email, etc., was not only appearing on my computer but as it appears on someone's else's computer too.
You cannot believe the software that I was given as well...that I didn't put on my computer. And music too. Some classical, some not. Everything I was doing was being put into a document----talk about cyberstalking...I don't know who "Sunny" or "Sunshine" is, but I intend to find out. The person or persons were sloopy!!
It kind is like what has transpired with my cell phone as well....whomever is monitoring that is sloopy----sounds like ham radio signals....friends have had the same problems.
It's no wonder I've been getting emails from myself....I guess numerous other people have been getting them as well. I know this is how hackers get their kicks......
Peter Bowditch - 07 May 2008 08:55 GMT > The person or persons were sloopy!! Did you tell them to hang on?
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Richard Schultz - 07 May 2008 10:52 GMT :> The person or persons were sloopy!! : : Did you tell them to hang on? It's not nice to make fun of someone for an obvious typo -- even I could tell that she meant that the person or persons were *Snoopy*; you probably thought that his keyboard was a typewriter, but it looks like he anticipated wireless technology by three decades at least.
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Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 07 May 2008 14:14 GMT > It's not nice to make fun of someone for an obvious typo -- even I could > tell that she meant that the person or persons were *Snoopy*; you probably > thought that his keyboard was a typewriter, but it looks like he anticipated > wireless technology by three decades at least. Oh yes, a typo, but the good news is that I called Comcast, appropriate action on their end and my end will will ensure that this hacker gets the rewards that she/he deserves. :>) Just like with the persons that would appear to be involved with my cell phone.
Coleah - 07 May 2008 14:32 GMT On May 7, 8:14 am, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > It's not nice to make fun of someone for an obvious typo -- even I could > > tell that she meant that the person or persons were *Snoopy*; you probably [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > involved with my > cell phone. Please keep us updated. This is all very confusing. If I read correctly, you are using a wireless connection that appears to be routing your emails through Comcast using your gmail.com account?
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 07 May 2008 15:20 GMT > Please keep us updated. This is all very confusing. > If I read correctly, you are using a wireless connection that appears > to be routing your emails through Comcast using your gmail.com > account? It would appear based on what was found in my computer, that someone would have appeared to turn my computer into a server on a comcast account for several businesses; gave me pay pal accounts, ebay accounts, and was running scripts (that's how I was alerted in the first place). It would appear that this took place in approximately October 2007 while I was away on business. They would appear to have cloned my accounts -- my identity theft I had in December 2007 would appear to be connected with this. As soon as my attorney finds out by getting a legal court issued subponea, who the party is, I will be taking appropriate action against the party, making them financially responsible for loss of hours from work (I work from home), Qwest my former ISP will be involved as well, as it would appear that someone hacked their equipment as well. I have already told Comcast I have no problem in making sure the hacker never does this kind of thing again. They already have copies of the postings from here. And anyone that I have shared private emails with, as I understand it, may have opportunity for some kind of financial rewards as well.
Since information has been posted to this forum that I have only shared in emails, it would appear that this is all somehow connected. As law enforcement told me, and others it is always best to put this information out in a public forum as it could be happening to other posters as well. Those involved, I am sure do not like the information being posted in a public forum, but since it would appear that I have a keystroke program on my computer, it would appear that nosy individuals have a problem with what I am doing on my own time, in the privacy of my own home, and since the only forum I post to is this one, one has to assume that information that has been posted by individuals not known to me other than in this forum that has come directly out of emails sent to other parties, one can only assume that there must be information contained in my emails that are of importance to individuals that post here or are connected here.
I highly doubt Jan Drew is a hacker, even though she said she was using spyware, that's why when she was posting the information about getting emails from my account going to her account, and I knew I had not done this, as soon as I found out that it was Comcast and as it appears my computer has been cloned, I put it out here. When I spoke with Stanford they were very interested in some of the information that I had. It would appear that Jan Drew's account may have been compromised as well if she is the person that she claims to be. Ironically, many of the pro choice healthcare advocates on this forum, have had computer problems as well as telephone problems.
I also had an individual call my home, and tell me about a purchase I had just made to a credit card. I called the credit card company, and they flipped out as much as I did.
That's why I have never told anyone where I live on this forum, but there would appear to be individuals connected to information that feel that they have the right to know who the people are on this forum, and especially those that believe in pro choice in healthcare. It is not illegal in the State I live to go to alternative health providers. Several of Dr. Rea's patients and former patients have had their computers compromised as well. It would appear to be connected with this lawsuit against the Texas Medical Board. And I have reason to believe that this forum is being monitored in connection with that lawsuit. That's the rumor anyways.
Jan Drew - 07 May 2008 18:27 GMT On May 7, 6:32 am, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> Please keep us updated. This is all very confusing. > If I read correctly, you are using a wireless connection that appears > to be routing your emails through Comcast using your gmail.com > account? It would appear based on what was found in my computer, that someone would have appeared to turn my computer into a server on a comcast account for several businesses; gave me pay pal accounts, ebay accounts, and was running scripts (that's how I was alerted in the first place). It would appear that this took place in approximately October 2007 while I was away on business. They would appear to have cloned my accounts -- my identity theft I had in December 2007 would appear to be connected with this. As soon as my attorney finds out by getting a legal court issued subponea, who the party is, I will be taking appropriate action against the party, making them financially responsible for loss of hours from work (I work from home), Qwest my former ISP will be involved as well, as it would appear that someone hacked their equipment as well. I have already told Comcast I have no problem in making sure the hacker never does this kind of thing again. They already have copies of the postings from here. And anyone that I have shared private emails with, as I understand it, may have opportunity for some kind of financial rewards as well.
Since information has been posted to this forum that I have only shared in emails, it would appear that this is all somehow connected. As law enforcement told me, and others it is always best to put this information out in a public forum as it could be happening to other posters as well. Those involved, I am sure do not like the information being posted in a public forum, but since it would appear that I have a keystroke program on my computer, it would appear that nosy individuals have a problem with what I am doing on my own time, in the privacy of my own home, and since the only forum I post to is this one, one has to assume that information that has been posted by individuals not known to me other than in this forum that has come directly out of emails sent to other parties, one can only assume that there must be information contained in my emails that are of importance to individuals that post here or are connected here.
I highly doubt Jan Drew is a hacker, even though she said she was using spyware, that's why when she was posting the information about getting emails from my account going to her account, and I knew I had not done this, as soon as I found out that it was Comcast and as it appears my computer has been cloned, I put it out here. When I spoke with Stanford they were very interested in some of the information that I had. It would appear that Jan Drew's account may have been compromised as well if she is the person that she claims to be. Ironically, many of the pro choice healthcare advocates on this forum, have had computer problems as well as telephone problems. ==
My account? You mean my email?
From Snifffthis@gmail to jdrew63929@aol.com
I also had an individual call my home, and tell me about a purchase I had just made to a credit card. I called the credit card company, and they flipped out as much as I did.
That's why I have never told anyone where I live on this forum, but there would appear to be individuals connected to information that feel that they have the right to know who the people are on this forum, and especially those that believe in pro choice in healthcare. It is not illegal in the State I live to go to alternative health providers. Several of Dr. Rea's patients and former patients have had their computers compromised as well. It would appear to be connected with this lawsuit against the Texas Medical Board. And I have reason to believe that this forum is being monitored in connection with that lawsuit. That's the rumor anyways.
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 07 May 2008 18:43 GMT > My account? You mean my email? > > From Snifffthis@gmail > to jdrew63...@aol.com You were the one that wrote you were using "spyware," so I have to take you at face value. But not to worry, there is a sleazebag private investigator, involved, I knew I smelled SLEAZE. Does workplace claims, physicians investigating, and insurance claims.
"Frank"-LY speaking, what a sleaze.
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net - 07 May 2008 21:44 GMT again...spyware is used to protect one's own computer...NOT to steal anything from anyone elses...
also...jdrew63 is not our jan drew
On May 7, 10:27 am, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> My account? You mean my email? > > From Snifffthis@gmail > to jdrew63...@aol.com You were the one that wrote you were using "spyware," so I have to take you at face value. But not to worry, there is a sleazebag private investigator, involved, I knew I smelled SLEAZE. Does workplace claims, physicians investigating, and insurance claims.
"Frank"-LY speaking, what a sleaze.
Mark Probert - 08 May 2008 13:51 GMT On May 7, 1:43 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > My account? You mean my email? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > "Frank"-LY speaking, what a sleaze. I am speaking outside of my UDP as this issue needs to be put to rest.
Bee, as you know, I do not respond to, or discuss X. However, even I do not believe for a moment that she uses any form of spyware in an offensive manner. What she probably meant is that she uses a program to protect her computer from being hacked by a spyware program. The misunderstanding arose because she is a sloppy writer.
Now, as for your problems. One question. Do you leave your computer connected to the internet when not in use? If so, let me suggest that you consider shutting down, or shutting off your modem when not actually using it.
There are people who will hack into your computer to use your system to propagate virii and other malicious programs.
They are clever enough to circumvent firewalls, ets. Less time connected, less time to be a target.
Jan Drew - 09 May 2008 04:29 GMT On May 7, 1:43 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 7, 10:27 am, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > "Frank"-LY speaking, what a sleaze. No, Debbie/Debbee/Bee/butterflies2222@yahoo,com
I said no such thing.
My exact words:
Where did you see the word *spyware*, posted by me? You didn't.
I am speaking outside of my UDP as this issue needs to be put to rest.
LOL. UDP off again. How bout that marcia?
Bee, as you know, I do not respond to, or discuss X.
Bee, is Debbie/Debbee.
Furthmore, you just proved you are a repeated liar. Your UDP was fake and a lie, right after you were busted--AGAIN.
However, even I do not believe for a moment that she uses any form of spyware in an offensive manner. What she probably meant is that she uses a program to protect her computer from being hacked by a spyware program. The misunderstanding arose because she is a sloppy writer.
LOL. Like this:
Dear Mrs. Drew:
I am using email to you since I do not wish to participate in Usenet. I trust that you *wil* respect this. I *wil* not email you again, except to forward to you other emails that Rosenthal has sent to me. She had the unmitigated gall to actually post this email to a webpage, which she acknowledges, and has since removed. She had the nerve to post my place of employment in the newsgroups and on that webpage.
Frankly, I am tired of your constant blaming Mark for everything that Rosenthal has done to him. This email was sent to ME, not him, by her. He had warned her several times not to do so, but, she went ahead and emailed me. I have spoken with some of Mark's friends in government law enforcement, and they tell me that this can be construed as stalking behavior, since I have never had contact with her.
Let me be blunt: I have been fully aware of Mark's activities from day one as we share *verything* in our relationship. He has NEVER posted as Will Ketcher, and we have not had an AOL account for a long time. However, Rosenthal persists in accusing him.
Let me clear up this issue Mark's attempt to infiltrate her email list. He has never denied doing so, and has clearly stated his reasons, which Rosenthal rejects. When he mentioned that our younger son was about to have surgery he began receiving some very nasty email which sounded quite a bit like Rosenthal. I read them, and know that they were hate filled and mirrored her usual verbiage. Some of them actually wished ill to our son. Remember, I am an English teacher and I spend hours a day reading students' work. I also felt that they could have originated with people who were affiliated with her.
Mark was deeply offended by some of the statements in these emails, and he attempted to locate the senders, but was unsuccessful. He then decided to try to read her group to see if he could identify the offending individuals. As you know, she found out what he did, and posted a message to that effect. Mark *immeidatrely* acknowledged what he did, and expressed his reasons, which she denied and said that we never received such email, even though she had absolutely no way of reading his email inbox.
You have been *concistently*wrong about Mark, and even more consistently wrong about Mark. I have read many instances where it was clear that you did not *udnerstand* what he was saying. Now that you do not read his full messages (many times you respond to something that has been severely edited) or his replies, you are making assumptions based on less than all the facts. If you were my student, you would get an F.
When I first received this email I was very upset by her actions, and I wanted to file complaints with Hotmail, RoadRunner and GoDaddy, her website host. Mark talked me out of it, as he does not think that such actions *wil lhelp* her. In fact, he is convinced that she *wil* become even more abusive and obsessed with "enemies." You know that I have every right to make such complaints.
Several of my students have used her website about Mark in their *wrtiings* in my senior honors writing seminar. Another group has used Rosenthal in a debate in my senior debating class. They used her to demonstrate that the First Amendment, which is posted in Mark's study, protects even the most vile people. I gave them an A.
I trust that this helps you get a better perspective on Mark, and on Rosenthal.
As I said above, I will not email you again, but I will forward all of her current messages to me.
If you wish to respond to me, please do so at SandraProb...@hotmail.com. I am using my professional email address simply because that is the address Rosenthal used.
Sandra Probert
________________________________
SPro...@nycboe.net
Now, as for your problems. One question. Do you leave your computer connected to the internet when not in use? If so, let me suggest that you consider shutting down, or shutting off your modem when not actually using it.
There are people who will hack into your computer to use your system to propagate virii and other malicious programs.
They are clever enough to circumvent firewalls, ets. Less time connected, less time to be a target.
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 07 May 2008 14:16 GMT > It's not nice to make fun of someone for an obvious typo -- even I could > tell that she meant that the person or persons were *Snoopy*; you probably > thought that his keyboard was a typewriter, but it looks like he anticipated > wireless technology by three decades at least. No, I meant "SLOPPY." My guess it is a sleazebag private investigator who would know better. That would fit well for this group....
David Wright - 08 May 2008 03:24 GMT >> Comcast isn't even mentioned anywhere in what you posted, so how are >> you managing to drag them into the discussion? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Here's the posting host: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.18.11.101 It pulled up >Comcast. No, it doesn't take a rocket scientist, but many people would be unaware of what you were saying. I just wanted you to clarify.
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers." -- John Dolan
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 07 May 2008 06:32 GMT ws up as if I was posting on the East Coast....isn't this
> >terrrific? > > Comcast isn't even mentioned anywhere in what you posted, so how are > you managing to drag them into the discussion? Let's figure it out for you....NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.18.11.101
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Coleah - 07 May 2008 05:05 GMT On May 6, 7:19 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 6, 1:27 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > credit that they deserve, and since I only post to this forum, I can > only guess it came from here. Run the IP # by Comcast and see who they trace it to.
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 07 May 2008 06:14 GMT > Run the IP # by Comcast and see who they trace it to. I intend to just that in the morning. Law enforcement says this is cyber stalking.
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 07 May 2008 01:23 GMT Hmm...I don't even have comcast...how can I be posting from it???? This is getting more interesting by the moment---but wait, I know, I know.....there is a major Comcast "connection" in this group.....is this what happens when you think you are a hot shot? LOL
Message from discussion Who do I thank??? View parsed - Show only message text Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!postnews.google.com! t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Butterflies1...@gmail.com Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Subject: Who do I thank??? Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 13:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3706fc96- d614-4ad9-8105-8fcbfaed3649@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.18.11.101 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1210105631 17673 127.0.0.1 (6 May 2008 20:27:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 20:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting- host=24.18.11.101; posting-account=OjhGBAoAAAA_hmxRZEKotzASJCNWKM78 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.13 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1 Safari/ 525.13,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Who do I thank for the FREE internet wireless provider, other than my own---with all of the hackers codes in my computer?
Robosoft Technologies?? That's nothing I put in there. No wonder there is a problem.
Linksys---I do not buy that equipment.
It would appear there were a lot of computer experts from numerous places adding all sorts of stuff that I did not know about until today.
Who, do I thank? I want to make sure the proper hackers get the full credit that they deserve, and since I only post to this forum, I can only guess it came from here.
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 07 May 2008 01:29 GMT On May 6, 1:27 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote:
> Who do I thank for the FREE internet wireless provider, other than my > own---with all of the hackers codes in my computer? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > credit that they deserve, and since I only post to this forum, I can > only guess it came from here. Message from discussion Who do I thank??? View parsed - Show only message text Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!postnews.google.com! t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Butterflies1...@gmail.com Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Subject: Who do I thank??? Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 13:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3706fc96- d614-4ad9-8105-8fcbfaed3649@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.18.11.101 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1210105631 17673 127.0.0.1 (6 May 2008 20:27:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 20:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com; posting- host=24.18.11.101; posting-account=OjhGBAoAAAA_hmxRZEKotzASJCNWKM78 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_4_11; en) AppleWebKit/525.13 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1 Safari/ 525.13,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
Who do I thank for the FREE internet wireless provider, other than my own---with all of the hackers codes in my computer?
Robosoft Technologies?? That's nothing I put in there. No wonder there is a problem.
Linksys---I do not buy that equipment.
It would appear there were a lot of computer experts from numerous places adding all sorts of stuff that I did not know about until today.
Who, do I thank? I want to make sure the proper hackers get the full credit that they deserve, and since I only post to this forum, I can only guess it came from here.
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