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Virtually All Human Disease Is Owing to Nutritional Factors

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PeterB - 03 May 2008 18:40 GMT
Virtually All Human Disease Is Owing to Nutritional Factors

According to the medical literature the vast majority of human
diseases with known epidemiologies are caused by nutritional
deficiencies.  The better known ones are scurvy, pellagra, rickets,
pernicious anemia, osteomalacia, Beri Beri, koilonychia, Hypocalcemia,
Cheilosis, protein energy malnutrition, electrolyte imbalance, Menkes
Disease, and Xerophthalmia.  But other conditions and symptoms,
including chronic fatigue, cold intolerance, low IQ, tingling
sensations, irritability, even leg cramps and chronic low back pain,
have been implicated by (or directly attributed to) nutritional
factors.  Perhaps hundreds of clinical pathologies are aspects of
chronic and overlapping vitamin and mineral deficiencies, even while
such conditions are not acute and imminently life threatening.  It is
well known that acute scurvy is fatal within months, for example, but
what about chronic insufficient vitamin C intake over a lifetime?
What would pre-clinical scurvy or pellagra look like and how would
they express?  Would such illnesses be diagnosed by a medical doctor
as a result of dietary insufficiency, as a result of blockage of
nutrient uptake by prescription drugs, or as a consequence of other
chemical exposures?  Linus Pauling, the nobel prize winner, stated
that many people with cardiovascular diseases are experiencing "scurvy
of the heart" due to chronic low levels of vitamin C intake.  A
naturopathic doctor with a well-known practice has referred to his
patients as having "beri beri" of the heart due to low-level intake of
important B vitamins.  The WHO has published its evaluation that some
2 billion or more human beings are suffering the health effects of low-
level iron intake despite the absence of frank iron-deficiency
anemia.  The substantial research by Richard A. Passwater, Ph.D.*
provides overwhelming evidence over several decades of the
relationship of nutrition to disease in large human populations.
Indeed, except for rare genetic disorders that affect a tiny
percentage of human beings, the evidence is now clear that nutritional
factors, even in well-fed populations of the western world, are vastly
more critical to good health and lower disease rates than
pharmaceutical or other medical interventions.

www.hsibaltimore.com
www.vitamindcouncil.com/research.shtml
www.drpasswater.com
www.thehealthierlife.co.uk/article_listing/91/nutrition.html
www.vitaminangels.org
www.heartspring.net/cancer.html
www.emedicine.com/med/topic1188.htm
drceephd@insightbb.com - 03 May 2008 19:03 GMT
> Virtually All Human Disease Is Owing to Nutritional Factors

You are absolutely correct.
However, we do need to factor in stress and the lack of sanitation.

In the USA, it is the fault of the American Dietetic Association and
their faulty nutritional concept brought about by the Medical
Monopoly.

The way it works is that via faulty nutrition, people become ill.
They then troop to the allopaths for poisons for their ills.  In the
USA, this charade is now producing nearly 2 trillion dollars a year in
business for the pharma shills.

If we applied the same logic to farming, every farmer would be
bankrupt and meat might cost over $500 a pound.  You see, farmers get
paid for raising healthy animals.  The docs get paid for treating sick
animals ( humans ).

Humans, sick humans, are the raw material for the disease industry and
the medical monopoly.

DrCee
You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.
PeterB - 03 May 2008 19:27 GMT
On May 3, 2:03 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote:

> > Virtually All Human Disease Is Owing to Nutritional Factors
>
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> DrCee
> You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.

I agree with you that stress and other factors are very important.  As
for ADA, I doubt one member in a hundred even knows who Richard
Passwater is.  Your last point (though tragic) is very well made.
Kevysmom - 03 May 2008 23:09 GMT
> You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.

How healthy is the food that we are eating today...

What about all these chemicals they are finding in babies, today! How
can the human body fight off all of these chemicals when its even in
our food.

On May 3, 2:03 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote:

> > Virtually All Human Disease Is Owing to Nutritional Factors
>
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> DrCee
> You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.
D. C. Sessions - 03 May 2008 23:44 GMT
> How healthy is the food that we are eating today...

As distinct from picking grain out of animal droppings like our
ancestors?

> What about all these chemicals they are finding in babies, today! How
> can the human body fight off all of these chemicals when its even in
> our food.

Rumor has it that there is even butanedioic acid in some common foods.

| sh.t happens.  Sometimes it happens to you. |
+--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+
Kevysmom - 03 May 2008 23:52 GMT
> In message <12aed0dd-c2eb-459d-8fda-a26dfc3ae...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Kevysmom wrote:
>
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> | sh.t happens.  Sometimes it happens to you. |
> +--- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ---+

Good Grief Charlie Brown!

The things you say make no sense whatsoever!
D. C. Sessions - 04 May 2008 00:12 GMT
>> In message <12aed0dd-c2eb-459d-8fda-a26dfc3ae...@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Kevysmom wrote:
>>
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>>
>> Rumor has it that there is even butanedioic acid in some common foods.

> The things you say make no sense whatsoever!

I assure you, butanedioic acid is very serious stuff.
Quite a number of people are very concerned about its
presence in our food supply.

| sh.t happens.  Sometimes it happens to you. |
+--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+
Kevysmom - 04 May 2008 00:26 GMT
> In message <bf0dceec-a016-4220-b54b-8db538879...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Kevysmom wrote:
>
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> | sh.t happens.  Sometimes it happens to you. |
> +--- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ---+

How did it get in our food supply???And why is it in our food supply?
Why is mercury in our food supply? And lead in our water?
drceephd@insightbb.com - 04 May 2008 01:28 GMT
> > In message <bf0dceec-a016-4220-b54b-8db538879...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Kevysmom wrote:
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Uhh, Sessions is pulling your chain for no good reason.

Dihydrogen monoxide is water H20.

Butanedioic acid, H00C-C-C-C00H, is just another pharma shill joke to
those who do not know chemistry.

Just tell him to kiss your booty and ignore him.

DrCee
You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.
Richard Schultz - 04 May 2008 06:14 GMT
: Butanedioic acid, H00C-C-C-C00H, is just another pharma shill joke to
: those who do not know chemistry.

Which, as the above post demonstrates, is a category that includes "Dr." Cee.

-----
Richard Schultz                              schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
Kevysmom - 04 May 2008 12:46 GMT
On May 3, 8:28 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote:

> > > In message <bf0dceec-a016-4220-b54b-8db538879...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Kevysmom wrote:
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Thanks Dr Cee, This is the second time D.C got me with this!
D. C. Sessions - 04 May 2008 14:51 GMT
> Thanks Dr Cee, This is the second time D.C got me with this!

Third, by my count.  That or first, depending on whether you
run a separate tally for each chemical.

The point of it all is that OF COURSE babies have "chemicals"
in them -- there wouldn't be much left if they didn't.  The
question is whether that's a good thing, a bad thing, or
somewhere in the middle.  People who have knee-jerk reactions
based on the name of a chemical are commonly manipulated into
taking silly policy positions, such as the huge number who
signed the petition to ban DHMO.

The reason it works is because they are preconditioned to be
against "chemicals" with unfamiliar names.  Sign here.  After
a long round of "horribles" with the congregation chanting
"Amen, Brother!" with each one, it's trivially easy to slip
in one more for unthinking response.

What's more, it will continue to be trivially easy.

| sh.t happens.  Sometimes it happens to you. |
+--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+
Kevysmom - 04 May 2008 22:30 GMT
> Third, by my count.  That or first, depending on whether you
> run a separate tally for each chemical.

Hahaha, Very funny, D.C!  I say twice because Im not counting
each chemical.

> The point of it all is that OF COURSE babies have "chemicals"
> in them -- there wouldn't be much left if they didn't.  The
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> taking silly policy positions, such as the huge number who
> signed the petition to ban DHMO.

Now this is crazy mad scientist talk! Chemicals that are toxic do not
belong
in babies.

> The reason it works is because they are preconditioned to be
> against "chemicals" with unfamiliar names.

No, Uranium, Mercury and Lead are three that do not belong in the
human body.
They do harm in more ways than one. These chemicals can cause DNA
damage, if you have a partial break on DNA from one of these chemicals
it will cause cancer. If you have a full break on one of your DNA from
one of these chemicals it will cause diseases. Asthma, Alzheimer's,
Parkinson's, Diabetes etc...

Sign here.  After
> a long round of "horribles" with the congregation chanting
> "Amen, Brother!" with each one, it's trivially easy to slip
> in one more for unthinking response.

Thats why smart people ask, and dont just take other peoples words as
the Gospel.

> What's more, it will continue to be trivially easy.

No, it wont. You dont give people credit.

> In message <408f42da-ad27-42be-b92f-cc82f8174...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Kevysmom wrote:
>
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> | sh.t happens.  Sometimes it happens to you. |
> +--- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ---+
D. C. Sessions - 04 May 2008 23:04 GMT
>> The point of it all is that OF COURSE babies have "chemicals"
>> in them -- there wouldn't be much left if they didn't.  The
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> belong
> in babies.

Then why do their bodies produce them?

Potassium is used for euthanasia.  Do you want children to have
no potassium?  Iron is the most common heavy-metal toxin by
Poison Control accounting.  Do you want an iron-free child?
How about formaldehyde?  Human livers produce it when we metabolize
fructose.  Hydrogen peroxide -- you know, bleach -- how about that?
Don't forget hydrochloric acid.  Would you want a child to have
concentrated HCl in her body?

Rather more to the immediate point, you automatically assume that
any "chemical" is "toxic."  Knee-jerk.

| sh.t happens.  Sometimes it happens to you. |
+--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+
trigonometry1972@gmail.com | - 04 May 2008 02:27 GMT
butanedioic acid

I like mine in beer and wine as it adds to the flavor.
And I like as an ester forming agent to stabilize some
of the rrr vitamin E I take. For some reason this ester
form seems to a bit more effective than the more
common acetate form. It is just another component of
the citric acid cycle as I recall. I prefer the
name butanedionic acid to the old trivial name
succinic acid.
Richard Schultz - 04 May 2008 06:13 GMT
In misc.health.alternative PeterB <pkm@mytrashmail.com> wrote:

: Virtually All Human Disease Is Owing to Nutritional Factors

When you got the flu, was it because of the filth that you live in,
or because of the squalor?

-----
Richard Schultz                              schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."
David Wright - 05 May 2008 04:17 GMT
>Virtually All Human Disease Is Owing to Nutritional Factors
>
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>have been implicated by (or directly attributed to) nutritional
>factors.

Given that nobody knows what causes (for example) chronic fatigue, I'd
say you've gone way too far here.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "There are two kinds of Republicans:  millionaires and suckers."
                                                     -- John Dolan
 
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