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I was just going over my records a few weeks ago, and I noticed that I had recorded the temperature readings of my little boy after he had gotten one of the polio vaccinations. I have never been a big fan of vaccinations, but since he was going to visit a foreign country where polio was endemic, I thought that it would be wise to protect him. He had over 104 degrees temperature for 4 days without pause immediately after the vaccination. In other words, his temperature never went below 104 for 4 days after the vaccination. And later, whenever he got a sniffle or any kind of mild childhood illness, his temperature would go crazy, way beyond the normal reaction. This tendency to over react became less and less, and now he reacts normally to colds. But it took several years for him to get back to normal. Remember that when a bad reaction to a vaccination happens, the next vaccination causes an even worst reaction. The only way that he will ever get another vaccination is if and when he consents to it as an adult (not likely), or over my dead body. MDs still insist that I am a bad parent because I will not vaccinate my boy. One piece of moral garbage (MD) "fired" me because I would not vaccination my precious darling. I wonder if they will at least pay for his lifetime of care when he becomes a basketcase because of their vaccination. They are trying to apply a public policy to an individual, even when such application would be catastrophic. They (1) don't give a s*** about my little boy, the most precious darling in all of human history, and (2) they think that every parent is stupid and lying. This is one of the many reasons why I despise most MDs and their bogus profession. Anyone who threatens my children is automatically on my s***list. MDs are not healers; they remove symptoms, increase their own wealth at the expense of others, play golf, and oppress all other healing modalities. > I was just going over my records a few weeks ago, and I noticed that I > had recorded the temperature readings of my little boy after he had > gotten one of the polio vaccinations. I have never been a big fan of > vaccinations, but since he was going to visit a foreign country where > polio was endemic, I thought that it would be wise to protect him. You are one of the few who can see through the smoke screen and mirrors of the medical monopoly. MD = Monopoly doctor MD = Murdering doctor ( you cannot charge him...but he will charge you ) MD = Mega buck doctor ( their only guarantee...YOU will pay ) MD = Medical Diety ( ie, medical god ) MD = Monsterous Dumbass Keep reading and learning. There is much more to learn and know. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. Hi Roger, nice to see you. >I was just going over my records a few weeks ago, and I noticed that I > had recorded the temperature readings of my little boy after he had [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > own wealth at the expense of others, play golf, and oppress all other > healing modalities. >I was just going over my records a few weeks ago, and I noticed that I > had recorded the temperature readings of my little boy after he had [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > immediately after the vaccination. In other words, his temperature > never went below 104 for 4 days after the vaccination. .... ... snip... For a temperature that high, did you call the doctor? How do you know it was not influenza? The plural of anecdote is not data. Anyway, all you have to do is post the real documented science you have (links to papers indexed at www.pubmed.gov are sufficient) that vaccines are more dangerous than the actual disease. If you have something that shows that the IPV is worse than polio, please present the actual studies. The same goes for DTaP and MMR. >I was just going over my records a few weeks ago, and I noticed that I > had recorded the temperature readings of my little boy after he had [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > own wealth at the expense of others, play golf, and oppress all other > healing modalities. Get back to us in twenty or thirty years. With a little luck your little boy will have proved your strategy correct. He will not have been rendered sterile by the mumps virus, or made a vegetable by the measles virus, or paralyzed by polio, or had his new baby killed by whooping cough, because other parents have been prepared to run the small risks of vaccinations and eliminated much of the risk of exposure to these epidemic illnesses. Some of these diseases are killers for adults, so he had better be obsessive about avoiding exposure to them for the rest of his life. Parents like you will have ensured that that risk continues for him. PM > >I was just going over my records a few weeks ago, and I noticed that I > > had recorded the temperature readings of my little boy after he had [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Ah yes, the great and reverend Petey the Moron pontificates the usual allopathic fearmongering. Fortunately all of this is conjecture with absolutely no scientific validity. As far as immunization side effects, I consider death a serious problem. I consider 1 in 60 males being nerurodysfunctional ( ASD ) for their entire lives to be a serious problem for the parents and society as a whole. We could also toss in a few tens of thousands of infants dying from SIDS. How about a few hundred thousand more dying from the treatment for AIDS? But what the heck. Big pharma needs to make money for the shareholders, and the pediatricians and funeral directors need their share as well. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. On May 1, 4:52 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote: > "bachcole" <rogerbi...@msn.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Ah yes, the great and reverend Petey the Moron pontificates the usual allopathic fearmongering. Fortunately all of this is conjecture with absolutely no scientific validity. As far as immunization side effects, I consider death a serious problem. PM But not deaths from measles and Whooping cough? I consider 1 in 60 males being nerurodysfunctional ( ASD ) for their entire lives to be a serious problem for the parents and society as a whole. We could also toss in a few tens of thousands of infants dying from SIDS. How about a few hundred thousand more dying from the treatment for AIDS? PM so you throw in a couple of "conjecture(s) with absolutely no scientific validity" yourself. But what the heck. Big pharma needs to make money for the shareholders, and the pediatricians and funeral directors need their share as well. PM Idiotic. Doctors don't make money out of vaccinations that prevent otherwise lucrative illness and even countries with salaried doctors make sure that their populations are vaccinated. It saves them money that would otherwise go to doctors and Big Pharm. And funeral directors are involved in your version of this conspiracy to kill people? PM DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. > <drcee...@insightbb.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > PM But not deaths from measles and Whooping cough? Deaths from measles and whooping cough are mainly iatrogenic deaths, deaths caused by the heroic poisoning of the allopaths who do not understand dis-ease. > I consider 1 in 60 males being nerurodysfunctional ( ASD ) > for their entire lives to be a serious problem for the parents and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > PM so you throw in a couple of "conjecture(s) with > absolutely no scientific validity" yourself. There is no conjecture about 1/60 males being neurodysfunctional. There is no conjecture about the SIDS deaths. There is no conjecture about the AIDS deaths. All I see is blatent lying by you and other pharma shills who refuse to kill the cash cow of immunization. > But what the heck. Big pharma needs to make money for the > shareholders, and the pediatricians and funeral directors need their [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > otherwise lucrative illness and even countries with salaried doctors make > sure that their populations are vaccinated. Uhh, dufus. The docs charge an office visit. The docs charge for the shots. Big pharma is raking in Billions with absolutely no liability. The docs get paid again when the parents return with an ill child, repeatly for some. Of course, if the child dies, only the funeral directors then make money. Better for the medical monopoly to have an ill child that one lost to death, but the children are still the "raw" material for the medical monopoly. It saves them money that > would otherwise go to doctors and Big Pharm. And funeral directors are > involved in your version of this conspiracy to kill people? > > PM The only industry that suffers financial loss when the the poisoning allopaths go on strike is the funeral industry. A decrease of 50% in business has been reported several times. > DrCee > You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. On May 1, 8:56 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote: > <drcee...@insightbb.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > PM But not deaths from measles and Whooping cough? Deaths from measles and whooping cough are mainly iatrogenic deaths, deaths caused by the heroic poisoning of the allopaths who do not understand dis-ease. Hawki: care to explain?? > I consider 1 in 60 males being nerurodysfunctional ( ASD ) > for their entire lives to be a serious problem for the parents and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > PM so you throw in a couple of "conjecture(s) with > absolutely no scientific validity" yourself. There is no conjecture about 1/60 males being neurodysfunctional. There is no conjecture about the SIDS deaths. There is no conjecture about the AIDS deaths. All I see is blatent lying by you and other pharma shills who refuse to kill the cash cow of immunization. > But what the heck. Big pharma needs to make money for the > shareholders, and the pediatricians and funeral directors need their [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > otherwise lucrative illness and even countries with salaried doctors make > sure that their populations are vaccinated. Uhh, dufus. The docs charge an office visit. The docs charge for the shots. Big pharma is raking in Billions with absolutely no liability. Hawki: that statement clearly demonstrates your lack of knowledge...no liability?? surely you jest The docs get paid again when the parents return with an ill child, repeatly for some. Of course, if the child dies, only the funeral directors then make money. Better for the medical monopoly to have an ill child that one lost to death, but the children are still the "raw" material for the medical monopoly. It saves them money that > would otherwise go to doctors and Big Pharm. And funeral directors are > involved in your version of this conspiracy to kill people? > > PM The only industry that suffers financial loss when the the poisoning allopaths go on strike is the funeral industry. A decrease of 50% in business has been reported several times. > DrCee > You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.- Hide quoted > text - > > - Show quoted text - DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. > Deaths from measles and whooping cough are mainly iatrogenic deaths, > deaths caused by the heroic poisoning of the allopaths who do not > understand dis-ease. > > Hawki: care to explain?? Look at the records. Sydenham taught the docs how to diagnose smallpox from the poxes. The death rate with Sydenham was around 1% while the other allopaths killed up to 80 % of the patients. As you have read, the allopaths denied the patients fresh air and even water. How long does it take a healthy person to die from dehydration compared to an ill person? Which doc was it that said it was better for the smallpox victim to lie in his foul sheets for weeks rather than change them? The same numbers are true for measles. The same numbers are true for the flu pandemic of 1918. The same numbers are true for the cholera epidemics, etc., etc. > Uhh, dufus. The docs charge an office visit. The docs charge for the > shots. Big pharma is raking in Billions with absolutely no > liability. > > Hawki: that statement clearly demonstrates your lack of knowledge...no > liability?? surely you jest Surely you know better. It is unlawful in the USA to sue the pharmaceutical companies or the murdering doctors. I would think you would know of this lack of liability. Doctors are like 007, they have a license to kill. Maybe this does not extend to the nurses? > The docs get paid again when the parents return with an > ill child, repeatly for some. Of course, if the child dies, only the [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > - Show quoted text - DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. >> Deaths from measles and whooping cough are mainly iatrogenic deaths, >> deaths caused by the heroic poisoning of the allopaths who do not >> understand dis-ease. What, specifically, in the standard protocol for care of pertussis and measles do you object to? >> Hawki: care to explain?? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Which doc was it that said it was better for the smallpox victim to > lie in his foul sheets for weeks rather than change them? I'm having a hard time correlating this with the present day. The physicians of the 18th century that you find so objectionable were practicing *exactly* what you advocate: helping the body do what their (and your) theory of disease say that it is doing in illness, which is purge itself of bad stuff and right its natural balance of vital forces. Their means were the same ones that you've expressed approval for. You might not have noticed, but the current standard of care for viral diseases like measles is very much more that of Hahnemann (barring the magic water) than that of the people he criticized. > The same numbers are true for measles. What, precisely, do you object to in the standard care of measles patients (aside, presumably, from quarantine since you don't consider it contagious)? > The same numbers are true for the flu pandemic of 1918. What, precisely, do you find objectionable in the routine care given to patients in the 1918 pandemic? > The same numbers are true for the cholera epidemics, etc., etc. What, precisely, do you find objectionable in the routine care given to cholera patients? >> Uhh, dufus. The docs charge an office visit. The docs charge for the >> shots. Big pharma is raking in Billions with absolutely no [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > would know of this lack of liability. Doctors are like 007, they have > a license to kill. Maybe this does not extend to the nurses? Which law prevents them from being sued? USC ... what? | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ On May 2, 3:12 pm, "Hawki" <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Deaths from measles and whooping cough are mainly iatrogenic deaths, > deaths caused by the heroic poisoning of the allopaths who do not > understand dis-ease. > > Hawki: care to explain?? Look at the records. Sydenham taught the docs how to diagnose smallpox from the poxes. The death rate with Sydenham was around 1% while the other allopaths killed up to 80 % of the patients. As you have read, the allopaths denied the patients fresh air and even water. How long does it take a healthy person to die from dehydration compared to an ill person? Which doc was it that said it was better for the smallpox victim to lie in his foul sheets for weeks rather than change them? The same numbers are true for measles. The same numbers are true for the flu pandemic of 1918. The same numbers are true for the cholera epidemics, etc., etc. > Uhh, dufus. The docs charge an office visit. The docs charge for the > shots. Big pharma is raking in Billions with absolutely no > liability. > > Hawki: that statement clearly demonstrates your lack of knowledge...no > liability?? surely you jest Surely you know better. It is unlawful in the USA to sue the pharmaceutical companies or the murdering doctors. I would think you would know of this lack of liability. Doctors are like 007, they have a license to kill. Maybe this does not extend to the nurses? please provide documentation that pharma and doctors cannot be sued....I know of enuf cases to know you made that one up.. and yes..nurses ...and NPs can and are sued (hope your wife has good malpractice insurance) > The docs get paid again when the parents return with an > ill child, repeatly for some. Of course, if the child dies, only the [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > - Show quoted text - DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. > Surely you know better. It is unlawful in the USA to sue the > pharmaceutical companies or the murdering doctors. I would think you [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and yes..nurses ...and NPs can and are sued (hope your wife has good > malpractice insurance) A citizen may sue a doctor for "malpractice." However, the citizen may sue only if: 1. They have a lawyer. 2. They have another Dr who will testify against the doc being sued. 3. The citizen can be required to pay the doctor's attorney for the right to sue the doctor. 4. The suit cannot involve the injection of vaccines. You better have an a.s pocket full of money to sue for medical malpractice. It is a matter of Federal law that the pharmceutical companies nor the pediatricians can be sued for any vaccine injuries, up to and including the death of the child. You must sue the federal government. Why do you think over 5,000 autism suits are already on the books? Why do you think the gov is refusing to pay so strongly? The gov has the money. You well know that with every shot of the potential fatal poisons more money is collected for the federal fund. Damn, get a clue Hawki. And please go to Mercola.com and look at the video concerning "Murder by Infection." It really is factual and a real eyeopener. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. On May 3, 1:48 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > It is a matter of Federal law that the pharmceutical companies nor the > pediatricians can be sued for any vaccine injuries, up to and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The gov has the money. You well know that with every shot of the > potential fatal poisons more money is collected for the federal fund. The purpose of the law is to shield pharmaceutical companies from frivolous litigation which wuld force them out of vaccination development and manufacture. As for the government having the money, the current 5000 cases will bankrupt the system, if those claims are paid. Fortunately, it does not look good for the claims being paid. However, the lawyers who represtn theclaimant's will still be paid. What a nice incentive for the lawyers, paid well, win or lose. > Damn, get a clue Hawki. P K B > And please go to Mercola.com and look at the video concerning "Murder > by Infection." It really is factual and a real eyeopener. Mercola? A dope. On May 3, 1:25 pm, "Hawki" <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Surely you know better. It is unlawful in the USA to sue the > pharmaceutical companies or the murdering doctors. I would think you [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and yes..nurses ...and NPs can and are sued (hope your wife has good > malpractice insurance) A citizen may sue a doctor for "malpractice." However, the citizen may sue only if: 1. They have a lawyer. 2. They have another Dr who will testify against the doc being sued. 3. The citizen can be required to pay the doctor's attorney for the right to sue the doctor. 4. The suit cannot involve the injection of vaccines. You better have an a.s pocket full of money to sue for medical malpractice. Hawki: you just contradicted your entire premise that doctors cannot be sued.....or didn't you notice that?? and please...referring me to Mercola is akin to saying "read this comic book"... It is a matter of Federal law that the pharmceutical companies nor the pediatricians can be sued for any vaccine injuries, up to and including the death of the child. You must sue the federal government. Why do you think over 5,000 autism suits are already on the books? Why do you think the gov is refusing to pay so strongly? The gov has the money. You well know that with every shot of the potential fatal poisons more money is collected for the federal fund. Damn, get a clue Hawki. And please go to Mercola.com and look at the video concerning "Murder by Infection." It really is factual and a real eyeopener. DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. > On May 3, 1:25 pm, "Hawki" <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > And please go to Mercola.com and look at the video concerning "Murder > by Infection." It really is factual and a real eyeopener. Hawki, *PLEASE* find a way to clearly attribute posted material. Three passes through this and I'm still trying to figure out what you wrote and what you quoted. I realize that you're using a posting tool that's even crippled by Microsoft standards, but there are others. I'm told that Free Agent is quite good, and ISTR that Thunderbird has a news mode as well. Please? | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ >> On May 3, 1:25 pm, "Hawki" <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > Three passes through this and I'm still trying to figure out what > you wrote and what you quoted. sorry....I realized what was happening..which is why I added my name in front of my very minimal replies... I may have to change readers...but this only happens some of the time sorry again > I realize that you're using a posting tool that's even crippled > by Microsoft standards, but there are others. I'm told that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | > +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > I may have to change readers...but this only happens some of the time No harm in picking up a copy of Thunderbird -- it's pretty reasonable as a mail tool (what I use) and you can't really beat the price: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ >> I may have to change readers...but this only happens some of the time > > No harm in picking up a copy of Thunderbird -- it's pretty reasonable > as a mail tool (what I use) and you can't really beat the price: > http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ thanks for the advice...my computer "guru" also suggests I dump outlook ...at least for newsgroups...I do not use it for mail... you know "us nurses"....hard to change old habits!!! started with DOS...remember that?? so still married to Microsoft and its "junk"...which at times can be soooo cumbersome.. did you say I have to pay for Mozilla?? if only for newsgroups...any other suggestions?? thanks in advance > | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | > +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ >>> I may have to change readers...but this only happens some of the time >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > thanks for the advice...my computer "guru" also suggests I dump outlook > ...at least for newsgroups...I do not use it for mail... What is that about "when one person tells you ... ?" All you need now is to have a third person tell you :-) > you know "us nurses"....hard to change old habits!!! started with > DOS...remember that?? so still married to Microsoft and its "junk"...which > at times can be soooo cumbersome.. My dear, I not only remember DOS, I have a copy of CP/M However, I've long since gone totally MS-free. Kubuntu, for instance: http://www.kubuntu.org > did you say I have to pay for Mozilla?? if only for newsgroups...any other > suggestions?? Mozilla (as in, both FireFox and Thnderbird) is both totally /libre/ and totally /gratis/ (As is kubuntu) | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ >>>> I may have to change readers...but this only happens some of the time >>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Mozilla (as in, both FireFox and Thnderbird) is both totally /libre/ > and totally /gratis/ (As is kubuntu) thanks ....looked up the kubuntu site...so far way beyond my level of computer expertise.... > | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | > +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > thanks ....looked up the kubuntu site...so far way beyond my level of > computer expertise.... Or not. I just did a test install yesterday (laptop came back from the shop with the drive reimaged.) If you know what country you're in, what time zone, and your preferred login you're pretty much there. $DAUGHTER and $HERSELF have both set them up just by reading the instructions. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ >> thanks ....looked up the kubuntu site...so far way beyond my level of >> computer expertise.... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > $DAUGHTER and $HERSELF have both set them up just by > reading the instructions. well I can read (smile)....but I sorta shy away from any computer stuff that reads "beta version"....I will let you and yours work out the bugs and let me know when it seems safe... again...thanks for the advice.. > | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | > +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > Hawki: you just contradicted your entire premise that doctors cannot be > sued.....or didn't you notice that?? > > and please...referring me to Mercola is akin to saying "read this comic > book"... First, I was referring to the ability to sue a doctor or a pharmaceutical company for vaccine injury. USA Federal law prohibits the law suit. You must sue the Federal government for compensation. Secondly, you can sue your incompetent allopath for malpractice but not ignorance or stupidity. The condiditions stated are valid. I learned all this when I sued a dumbass doc and hospital over my mother's death. Lastly, if you are not willing to pull your head out of your a.s and watch the video about Eustace Mullins' book " The AMA, Murder by Injection" I will decline to respond to any further comment by the pharma shill known as "Hawki". >> Hawki: you just contradicted your entire premise that doctors cannot be >> sued.....or didn't you notice that?? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > pharmaceutical company for vaccine injury. USA Federal law prohibits > the law suit. You must sue the Federal government for compensation. Still can't find that law, can you? Is it just possible that there isn't any such? > Secondly, you can sue your incompetent allopath for malpractice but > not ignorance or stupidity. The condiditions stated are valid. I > learned all this when I sued a dumbass doc and hospital over my > mother's death. And there are many indeed who should be glad that ignorance and stupidity are not grounds for a suit at law; according to Kruger and Dunning (1999), however, those who should be most grateful are least likely to. > Lastly, if you are not willing to pull your head out of your a.s and > watch the video about Eustace Mullins' book " The AMA, Murder by > Injection" I will decline to respond to any further comment by the > pharma shill known as "Hawki". Promises, promises. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ >> Hawki: you just contradicted your entire premise that doctors cannot be >> sued.....or didn't you notice that?? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >pharmaceutical company for vaccine injury. USA Federal law prohibits >the law suit. You must sue the Federal government for compensation. Yes, that is because the profitmargins on vaccines are extremely low, so manufacturers would not bother to produce anything with a low profit margin and risks of lawsuits, that costs loads of money and valuable wether you win or lose. >Secondly, you can sue your incompetent allopath for malpractice but >not ignorance or stupidity. The condiditions stated are valid. I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Injection" I will decline to respond to any further comment by the >pharma shill known as "Hawki". >> Surely you know better. It is unlawful in the USA to sue the >> pharmaceutical companies or the murdering doctors. I would think you [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > may sue only if: > 1. They have a lawyer. Where is that a requirement? > 2. They have another Dr who will testify against the doc being sued. Citation to the law in question, please. > 3. The citizen can be required to pay the doctor's attorney for the > right to sue the doctor. I'm sure that you have at least one example of this, don't you? The USA is normally not a "loser pays" legal system, but I'm willing to be convinced. > 4. The suit cannot involve the injection of vaccines. I've asked you to back this one up before. Please do so. > You better have an a.s pocket full of money to sue for medical > malpractice. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The gov has the money. You well know that with every shot of the > potential fatal poisons more money is collected for the federal fund. I've asked for some substantiation on this one too. So far, you keep repeating these statements about the law without citation. Perhaps you're confusing the law of the United States with the law of Mars, where you got your law degree? That, or these came from Uranus. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ On May 2, 1:10 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > There is no conjecture about 1/60 males being neurodysfunctional. > There is no conjecture about the SIDS deaths. > There is no conjecture about the AIDS deaths. Correct. These people died. However, the "connection" to vaccination has been disproven, and, when you claim one, YOU are a liar. > All I see is blatent lying by you and other pharma shills who refuse > to kill the cash cow of immunization. Even if that were so, immunization is the greatest public health success story of all time. Worth every penny. > On May 2, 1:10 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Worth every penny. If immunization is the greatest public health success story, then why not admit the "occasional" death and injury without all the harassment and the lawsuits conducted by...oooohhh the "special masters"? If immunization is so successful, why are laws being passed to make it mandatory? DrCee You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons. On May 2, 6:00 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > > On May 2, 1:10 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > not admit the "occasional" death and injury without all the harassment > and the lawsuits conducted by...oooohhh the "special masters"? No one who believes in vaccinations ever claims that they are 100% effective, or that there is no chance what-so-ever that there may be a rare adverse event. The problem is, that there are people who file phoney claims, or, claims based on shoddy evidence. One of the major cases, Sykes, is about to be dismessed at the request of the plaintiffs, because, it appears, that their experts are not experts. > If immunization is so successful, why are laws being passed to make it > mandatory? No vaccination is *mandatory*. If you want your child to partake of such benefits as daycare, public education, etc. then one has to have their child vaccinated as a protection for that child, and the small number of children who do not develop immunity from the vaccines. Youhave been told this before, but, alas, your little mind cannot hold facts. > There is no conjecture about the SIDS deaths. Well, of course there is plenty of conjecture. You see it on MHA all the time. However, what there isn't is any actual connection. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ On May 1, 7:50 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > > "bachcole" <rogerbi...@msn.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > for their entire lives to be a serious problem for the parents and > society as a whole. There is no proof that vaccines cause ASD. Liar. We could also toss in a few tens of thousands of > infants dying from SIDS. Disproven. Keep lying. How about a few hundred thousand more dying > from the treatment for AIDS? Liar. > But what the heck. Big pharma needs to make money for the > shareholders, and the pediatricians and funeral directors need their > share as well. Chuckie, or is it Dr. Pus-For-Brains? On May 1, 7:50 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > On May 1, 4:52 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > for their entire lives to be a serious problem for the parents and > society as a whole. There is no proof that vaccines cause ASD. Liar. ---- No, it is you who keeps telling this repeated lie We could also toss in a few tens of thousands of > infants dying from SIDS. Disproven. Keep lying. How about a few hundred thousand more dying > from the treatment for AIDS? Liar. > But what the heck. Big pharma needs to make money for the > shareholders, and the pediatricians and funeral directors need their > share as well. Chuckie, or is it Dr. Pus-For-Brains? -- Read the Totah today? NO--that too was a LIE. |
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