For those participating, it is important to understand this Newsgroup
is an "open" internet forum. As such, those participating in dialogue
need to remember postings are saved and archived for retrieval at any
time.

If you are in any type of litigation, it may be in your best interest
to guard what you say here, and decline sharing personal information
about yourself.  In fact, it’s a good idea to protect your privacy
regardless.  Real agendas, of those posting to or reading this board
may not be known.

There have been incidents of misguided individuals contacting aging
parents, children, spouses and employers, of those they have
difference of opinions with!  This is an additional reason to choose
your involvement with this board wisely.

You mean like Mark S Probert, Merrick, NY?

In addition, simply because a person on this board is giving what
APPEARS to be a legitimate identity, and is PURPORTING to have an
interest in health issues, or is an advocate, simply doesn't make it
so.

Because the possibility of collecting up information (to possibly be
used against them in litigation), and/or the ability to solicit
donations from them for "non-profit" purposes, or for other nefarious
reasons makes newsgroups a natural place to dwell.

If a person purporting to be an advocate regularly uses foul or
disrespectful language in their communication on this board, they are
likely offending a good portion of the public in so doing.

Like--Coleah, Peter Bowditch, Mark S Probert, your buddies you defend.

When these
individuals offend the public, they are in the process of dividing
public opinion against the collective community of those they proclaim
to be advocating for, and are often seen as a PR nightmare to those
they represent.

There is a very old adage (and a game show), that a chain is only as
strong as it's weakest link.  Collectively, mankind can only progress
or achieve, as much as the weakest link will allow.

Advice regarding legal representation on this board, is only as good
as the person doing the steering, and that steering may be in a
direction 180 degrees the opposite direction of where you need to go.

This "IS" a place to discuss and debate the pro's and con's of
alternative health.  Although it may have been the intent of the
original charter to expect respectful dialogue, newsgroups dwell in
the wild, wild west of the internet, and no mandates can be really
imposed, other than those enforced by Google, or other providers of
newsgroups.

Unfortunately, due to the loose nature of this board, there have been
ongoing, arguments, fighting and disputes between individuals, which
have little to do with health interests.

Ongoing fight like yours.

It is imperative that you “attempt” to keep your life private.

Like you did?

Even your picture has been posted.

 For
the sake and safety of your privacy, it is likely a good idea to adopt
a screen identity, and provide little personal information about
yourself.  More than most newsgroups, this newsgroup seems to be over
populated with those obsessed with investigating the lives of others,
and then broadcasting that information to the internet, web sites, and
this newsgroup.  Yet, many of those suffering from investigation
obsession, tend to enjoy hiding in the shadows when it comes to
revealing information about themselves!

Suffering because THEY posted personal information...

Ofcourse it is, however, when I left my former location, the "nosey"
private investigator
that moved into my previous  neighborhood under suspicious conditions
that spent his days and nights terrorizing the families that lived
there would appear to be connected to individuals in this forum.  If I
hadn't had the experience of
that entire ordeal I wouldn't not have known what has been transpiring
here on this forum,
and off of the forum that carried over into my own personal life now
as it had previously.   And based on the information that I did not
put in my computer that ended up in my computer, I found it of total
disrespect by the individuals that have taken it upon themselves to
pry into my own personal life, using electronic technology to gain
information and my whereabouts. Where I live, who I am, where I work,
is no one's business but mine.  It would appear that previous nosey
neighbor would appear to be connected to individuals in that come to
this forum to speak against alternative health practices.  The same
practice of using electronic technology to gain entrance into one's
private life is not acceptable behavior that I am willing to
tolerate.  This is why I have taken the necessary steps to do what I
have to do to get the individuals responsible for this illegal entry
into my life, out of my life.   I do not know which one of you signed
me up for Reunion.com, but I did not sign up for this.  But prying
into one's computer to find out what they are writing or not writing
is acceptable behavior. Using electronic surveillance to eavesdrop
into private home conversations, telephone calls, landline or cellular
without a court order is illegal, and I got a head's two weeks ago
from someone that appeared to have quite a bit of knowledge as to
where I lived, had my telephone numbers, and told me about letters I
had received and written in email.  There have been bits and pieces of
my telephone conversations, and in home conversations that have found
their way in bent and twisted formats to this forum.  I have found
faked emails from my account, and emails from people I do not know
responding to emails I have sent others that do not even belong in
this forum.
       It would appear that anyone that speaks up in support of PRO
Choice in healthcare issues is targeted as if those that favor
whatever works for them is not acceptable to the peanut gallery on
this forum.
       My life is my business.  Who I happen to invite in to share it
with me, is my business, and the rest that butt into my private life
will be butting out.
      In my humble opinion, it would appear that there may have been
individuals or groups that choose to  put up collateral for lawsuits
and are angry that they lost what they put up, and are trying to find
some way of getting it back.  And by attacking individuals that they
believe may have been responsible for their loss of funds, it would
appear that they are attempting to get back what they believe is
theirs.
     I came to this forum to learn about different forms of
alternative therapies and to share with others, not to be attacked for
my choices, nor my desire to learn more.  I support some forms of
alternative health care treatments, and basically use conventional
medicine.  But I also believe like religion, that choice in healthcare
is an individuals choice, and should not be mandated by people who
would appear to have a deeper interest in conventional healthcare or
the pharmaceutical world, and are also not willing to learn more about
safer alternatives for people.  People do not tell people which
religion that they can practice or belief in; so why should healthcare
choices be any different?
    I have not shared my location, where I work with anyone, my
telephone numbers with anyone.  My life is my own business not
yours.
    Thank you.

Ofcourse it is, however, when I left my former location, the "nosey"
private investigator
that moved into my previous  neighborhood under suspicious conditions
that spent his days and nights terrorizing the families that lived
there would appear to be connected to individuals in this forum.  If
I
hadn't had the experience of
that entire ordeal I wouldn't not have known what has been
transpiring
here on this forum,
and off of the forum that carried over into my own personal life now
as it had previously.   And based on the information that I did not
put in my computer that ended up in my computer, I found it of total
disrespect by the individuals that have taken it upon themselves to
pry into my own personal life, using electronic technology to gain
information and my whereabouts. Where I live, who I am, where I work,
is no one's business but mine.  It would appear that previous nosey
neighbor would appear to be connected to individuals in that come to
this forum to speak against alternative health practices.  The same
practice of using electronic technology to gain entrance into one's
private life is not acceptable behavior that I am willing to
tolerate.  This is why I have taken the necessary steps to do what I
have to do to get the individuals responsible for this illegal entry
into my life, out of my life.   I do not know which one of you signed
me up for Reunion.com, but I did not sign up for this.  But prying
into one's computer to find out what they are writing or not writing
is not  acceptable behavior. Using electronic surveillance to
eavesdrop
into private home conversations, telephone calls, landline or
cellular
without a court order is illegal, and I got a head's two weeks ago
from someone that appeared to have quite a bit of knowledge as to
where I lived, had my telephone numbers, and told me about letters I
had received and written in email.  There have been bits and pieces
of
my telephone conversations, and in home conversations that have found
their way in bent and twisted formats to this forum.  I have found
faked emails from my account, and emails from people I do not know
responding to emails I have sent others that do not even belong in
this forum.
       It would appear that anyone that speaks up in support of PRO
Choice in healthcare issues is targeted as if those that favor
whatever works for them is not acceptable to the peanut gallery on
this forum.
       My life is my business.  Who I happen to invite in to share
it
with me, is my business, and the rest that butt into my private life
will be butting out.
      In my humble opinion, it would appear that there may have been
individuals or groups that choose to  put up collateral for lawsuits
and are angry that they lost what they put up, and are trying to find
some way of getting it back.  And by attacking individuals that they
believe may have been responsible for their loss of funds, it would
appear that they are attempting to get back what they believe is
theirs.
     I came to this forum to learn about different forms of
alternative therapies and to share with others, not to be attacked
for
my choices, nor my desire to learn more.  I support some forms of
alternative health care treatments, and basically use conventional
medicine.  But I also believe like religion, that choice in
healthcare
is an individuals choice, and should not be mandated by people who
would appear to have a deeper interest in conventional healthcare or
the pharmaceutical world, and are also not willing to learn more
about
safer alternatives for people.  People do not tell people which
religion that they can practice or belief in; so why should
healthcare
choices be any different?
    I have not shared my location, where I work with anyone, my
telephone numbers with anyone.  My life is my own business not
yours.
    Thank you.

Pharma thugs are known to do this in an effort to silence those of us
advocating for natural methods and full dislosure of standard medicine
hazards.

That is one reason why disclosure of personal information is unwise
and pointless.

A number of individuals here are certainly associated with PR projects
underwritten anonymously by the media or marketing groups of
industry.

That's true, which is why personal attacks by those favorable to
conventional methods is so concerning.  These responses are preemptive
and prejudicial and don't foster real discussion.  These individuals
make every effort to prevent a critical mass of awareness by the
public regarding the dangers of standard healthcare and the benefits
of natural medicine.

I have to disagree.  While disputes between individuals over industry
affiliations might devolve into personal animosities at times, even
these are relevant to discussions of public health because those are
the issues that fomented those disputes to begin with.  No one can
separate either their professional *or* charitable advocacy activities
from the topics of mha.  This battle for mind share between industry
and those of us advocating for holistic approaches in healthcare is
(as you know) a daily affair.

My own reluctance to provide information about myself is because I
don't want to invite such activity.  At the same time, disclosure of
personal information is not assurance that a poster is free of
professional affiliations.  A reader must review a poster's history in
the archives to have a good sense of their motives and purpose.  But
thanks, this serves as a reminder that the "Warning" post I circulated
before my hiatus should probably go back up.  I've been meaning to
update it anyway, so I'll do that and put it up later in the week.
It's still in the archives under the title "Warning:  Industry is
Blogging" if anyone is interested.  Good points.