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Ilena - did Polevoy send the $311k check yet? Those Mother's Day Sales are almost here...

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Ilena Rose - 30 Apr 2008 03:09 GMT
Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:
Despite Coleah's claims ... the court said otherwise.

Martin Rady ... indeed, over $311,000 is still outstanding on the
nearly half a million in court fees for Grell & Barrett & Polevoy.
www.breastImplantAwareness.org/BarrettVsRosenthal.htm

www.BreastImplantImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html
Her interference sunk the 'peace plan' between Penley Ayers and
myself.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/patrickoleary.htm
Silicone exec who hides behind Penley Ayers & Jeffcoat.

Penley-Ayers had admitted she was going to 'use' O'leary's $9K+
judgement as a 'legal excuse' to hunt me down and attempt to access my
bank accounts in August, 2004.
http://apps.alameda.courts.ca.gov/fortecgi/fortecgi.exe?Servicename=DomainWebSer
vice&PageName=Image&ID=1&Parent=13236917&Action=19900555


After that, she admitted she approached silicone exec O'leary to get
him to assign this to her.

Her postingthis information  on Usenet was against federal law,
according to my legal experts.

Despite her claims,in fact, the court ruled against Penley Ayers and
further sustained our objections. This meant the court agreed with us
that what Penley Ayers provided to the Alameda Court was NOT
sufficient to back her claims.

What is particularly interesting ... is that after bragging of her "6
digit income' ... and further admitting she chased O'leary to get her
to assign this to her ... she pleaded with the court that she was
going to suffer irreparable loss and harm.

The court didn't believe her either.

www.BreastImplantImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm

"Without an order To Apply Judgment and Appointment of Receiver the
Lien Claimant will suffer irreparable loss and harm.

http://apps.alameda.courts.ca.gov/fortecgi/fortecgi.exe?Servicename=DomainWebSer
vice&PageName=Image&ID=1&Parent=13236917&Action=19900555


www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/SBIPrivateClub.htm
.

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From: "coleah" coleah@pacifier.com
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 16:36:13 -0700
Subject: [SBIPrivateClub] FW: Search for Ilena Rosenthal

Okay, we're getting close to finding Ilena. This email is going out to
everyone who has held an interest in locating Ilena.

The private investigator is lined up and there are just a few details
to work out.

To cover the group's desire for the investigation, Patrick's judgment
will be the legal justification for looking her and her bank accounts
and balances.

I told Patrick that we didn't expect him to pay for all this, because
it is our idea and we need him as a legal excuse for doing a search.
                  

From: "coleah" coleah@pacifier.com
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 00:05:40 -0700
Subject: [SBIPrivateClub] Moving on.....Next Ilena Project

Okay, we go.  Moving along to approaching the IRS and CA to get
Ilena's non-profit yanked.  This will be a challenge as the federal
government does not have staff to look into non-profits and when they
do find a violation they go for 'hand slapping' first.
What I would ask is for everyone to look over the items below to get
an idea of the 'issues' we can look into and the bring up to CA and
the IRS.  If one item grabs you as one you would like to look more
deeply into, please let me know.  If we all take a piece and research
we can move through all this more quickly.  (Please, please, please
!!!)

And if you have ideas of other things that could be looked into,
please let me know and I'll add it to this list.  After we've explored
the issues, I'll gather everyone's input and fine tune the plan of
proceeding.  We did it with the FDA.  This will be a bit more
intensive.
Let the fun began!!
Coleah

From: "coleah" coleah@pacifier.com
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 00:05:40 -0700
Subject: [SBIPrivateClub] Moving on.....Next Ilena Project

Okay, we go.  Moving along to approaching the IRS and CA to get
Ilena's non-profit yanked.  This will be a challenge as the federal
government does not have staff to look into non-profits and when they
do find a violation they go for 'hand slapping' first.
What I would ask is for everyone to look over the items below to get
an idea of the 'issues' we can look into and the bring up to CA and
the IRS.  If one item grabs you as one you would like to look more
deeply into, please let me know.  If we all take a piece and research
we can move through all this more quickly.  (Please, please, please
!!!)

And if you have ideas of other things that could be looked into,
please let me know and I'll add it to this list.  After we've explored
the issues, I'll gather everyone's input and fine tune the plan of
proceeding.  We did it with the FDA.  This will be a bit more
intensive.
Let the fun began!!
Coleah
Ilena Rose - 30 Apr 2008 03:11 GMT
http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm
(b) COMMUNICATION WITH THIRD PARTIES.  Except as provided in section
804, without the prior consent of the consumer given directly to the
debt collector, or the express permission of a court of competent
jurisdiction, or as reasonably necessary to effectuate a postjudgment
judicial remedy, a debt collector may not communicate, in connection
with the collection of any debt, with any person other than a
consumer, his attorney, a consumer reporting agency if otherwise
permitted by law, the creditor, the attorney of the creditor, or the
attorney of the debt collector.
Coleah - 30 Apr 2008 05:29 GMT
> http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm
> (b) COMMUNICATION WITH THIRD PARTIES.  Except as provided in section
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> permitted by law, the creditor, the attorney of the creditor, or the
> attorney of the debt collector.

---------------------------------------------------
Well gosh, Little Ms 'Consumer'.......pray tell......Precisely WHAT
did you 'consume' regarding Patrick O'Leary's Judgment against you in
Superior court ????????????????????????????

http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Peter Bowditch - 30 Apr 2008 06:30 GMT
>http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm
>(b) COMMUNICATION WITH THIRD PARTIES.  Except as provided in section
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>permitted by law, the creditor, the attorney of the creditor, or the
>attorney of the debt collector.

Now, let me get this straight.

1) Coleah is not the assignee of the debt because the court rejected
it.

2) Coleah is breaking some law by revealing the details of the
assignment.

So, if there is no assignment, how can she be breaking the law? Have
you asked your legal team that (assuming that they will talk to you
without a guarantee of payment)?

Signature

Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

Coleah - 30 Apr 2008 16:07 GMT
> >http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm
> >(b) COMMUNICATION WITH THIRD PARTIES.  Except as provided in section
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> --
> Peter Bowditch aa #2243

Well, as I asked (and clearly have gotten no response from Ilena
Rosenthal)....what did she (as a consumer) 'consume' regarding the
'debt transaction' of the O'Leary Judgment?

(5) The term “debt” means any obligation or alleged
obligation of a consumer to pay money "arising out of
a transaction in which the money, property, insurance
or services which are the subject of the transaction" are
primarily for "personal, family, or household purposes",
whether or not such obligation has been reduced to
judgment.

All of Rosenthal's whining can not balance the fact that after I
privately served her many legal documents (and was silent in any
newsgroup about the process), it was SHE who brought the issue to
light by posting about it (in various newsgroups) for the entire world
to view her 'dirty panties'....NOT I.

I do believe that she shows signs of untreated mental illness, and
will try to twist anything to appear 'the poor, picked-on
victim'.....to cover her own acts of irresponsibility.
Jan Drew - 01 May 2008 06:44 GMT
"Coleah" <coleah@pacifier.com> wrote repeatedly about her ememies:
I do believe that she shows signs of untreated mental illness

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Ilena Rose - 30 Apr 2008 03:13 GMT
Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:

No, Tim.

Mark S Probert, part of the Snake-oil Vigilante Legal Team ... was
disbarred by the NY Supreme Court and ordered to cease forever giving
his legal opinions. Yet he's been very vocal about his belief that we
have no authority over Polevoy here  in California, where THEY chose
to sue us. In an earlier thread, he is canvassing to get ammunition
for their plan.

It all seems very highly orchestrated by Barrett, Langer, Probert,
Polevoy, Grell and others on their Snake-oil Team.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Terry-Polevoy
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/polevoy.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Langer

I did learn in a quick read of the current round of court papers in
our attempts to collect the rest of the over $312,000 debt for my
attorneys fees, that Polevoy never paid a cent into his proportioned
part. Whoever antied up for Grell & Barrett paid the joint part for
Polevoy believing, apparently, the same thing as disbarred Probert is
giving as legal advice.

Makes up wonder too ... who financed this whole huge lawsuit ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ?

This coming week is another hearing regarding a Bond we have for this
very possibility ... they claim it has nothing to do with Polevoy. We
disagree. I'll let you know what the judge says.

Also, they are so desperate not to pay and keep my legal team occupied
with every objection their legal team (apparently Probert is one,
according to his words) ... they are even re-using a same idiotic
losing  argument that they have before.

They claim that since when Mark Goldowitz took my case in early 2001,
and we had a signed agreement regarding the very topic of fees when we
prevailed, in Quacklandia they claim that I have no standing to make
the motions I am.

Their Snake-oil team has also claimed that Mr. Goldowitz's and my
attorney / client agreement somehow reflected badly on me. In fact, I
had perfect credit when I got SLAPP sued and have been forced to
defend myself against this group of professional corporate lobbyists,
attorneys, and their smear campaign team since them at great financial
and personal expenses.

There is nothing in over 7 years that I have done or said, or they
have claimed I have done or said, that one of these people haven't
found a reason to criticize and make me wrong.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm          
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/langervsilena.htm
Being updated

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/sandraprobert.htm
Text of Dismarment Papers

Here he is giving his legal opinion regarding American Quack / MD,
Terry Alan Polevoy, who lives in Canada, yet used the California Court
System for 7 years of legal assaults against me.

Here is an earlier thread.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_frm/thread/f674056
131a2d5a0/af3277f9be220d3f?lnk=gst&q=polevoy+hiding+mark+probert#af3277f9be220d3
f


Quoth Disbarred Probert:

"Do explain how they can get jurisdiction over Canadian property and
income? IIRC, there is a Canadian law that will allow Polevoy to
challenge any executions that arfe based on judgements not consistent
with Canadian law. "

After all 3 SLAPP suit plaintiffs lost to me in Superior Court (and
Coleah Penlely Ayers and Myrl Jeffcoat joined their assaults against
me), the 3 losers owed only around $33K in my legal fees.

After the Appeals Court ruled again against "Dr. Sue" Barrett and
malicious prosecutor Grell ... and decided that one comment I reposted
about Polevoy would have to be fully litigated to see if the facts
showed that he was 'libeled' ... Polevoy was offered a total
walk-away. He would owe nothing  ... I would owe nothing ... and we
would not have to go back to Superior Court where I fully believe it
would be proven that he in fact, followed Ms McPhee around, wore
disguises, did his typical email bombing to her bosses, etc. etc.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Polevoy.htm

Polevoy refused ... he held fast with Barrett & Grell ... demanding
that all their legal fees also be dropped, or he would march forward!

We filed with the Supreme Court ... the rest is history. The Supreme
Court of California once again reiterated that Sue Happy Barrett had
not been 'defamed' (yet he  continues to cry and beg for money and
fills the internet with the lie that he lost on a 'technicality) and
ruled  that reposting another person's words was not actionable.

The total bill for my attorneys fees were around $55K for the Superior
Court ... and an additional $470K for the Appeals and Supreme Court.

Whoever antied up for Barrett & Grell ... also paid any portion of
their legal fees that included Polevoy ... except they left around
$312,000 that was solely me defending myself against Polevoy alone.

Now it appears that failed and disbarred former attorney Mark S
Probert was in on the planning and has given them legal advice  that
if Grell (who lives here in California) and Polevoy dumped each other
... because Polevoy is hiding (according to Probert) in Canada ... he
need not pay his legal fees.

"Do explain how they can get jurisdiction over Canadian property and
income? IIRC, there is a Canadian law that will allow Polevoy to
challenge any executions that arfe based on judgements not consistent
with Canadian law. "

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/barrettVsRosenthal.htm
Coleah - 30 Apr 2008 05:32 GMT
> Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:
(snip whine)
> After all 3 SLAPP suit plaintiffs lost to me in Superior Court (and
> Coleah Penlely Ayers and Myrl Jeffcoat joined their assaults against
> me), the 3 losers owed only around $33K in my legal fees.

Name dropper....at least you could spell it correctly
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Peter Bowditch - 30 Apr 2008 06:33 GMT
>I did learn in a quick read of the current round of court papers in
>our attempts to collect the rest of the over $312,000 debt for my
>attorneys fees, that Polevoy never paid a cent into his proportioned
>part. Whoever antied up for Grell & Barrett paid the joint part for
>Polevoy believing, apparently, the same thing as disbarred Probert is
>giving as legal advice.

Now let me get this straight.

1) Dr Polevoy's "proportioned part" was paid by someone.

2) Dr Polevoy's "proportioned part" has not been paid by anyone.

Please explain.

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The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

Mark Probert - 30 Apr 2008 14:02 GMT
> Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> to sue us. In an earlier thread, he is canvassing to get ammunition
> for their plan.

Ilena, you left out the part where I said I was wrong when I expressed
my personal opinion.

Please do keep that in mind when you post.

Thanks a bunch.
Myrl - 30 Apr 2008 04:03 GMT
Ilena's claims that I "sunk" any peace agreement are pure bull crap!
Interested parties can search the archives surrounding the date and
time of the agreement, and Ilena's failure to remove any webpages
whatsoever.  She chose instead to leave up the URLs with offensive
addressing, which left Coleah's name in them, while switching out
content.  And each and everyone of those intact webpages, had Ilena
Rosenthal's tollgate Paypal, "please send me money" link on them.

http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Coleah - 30 Apr 2008 05:48 GMT
> Ilena's claims that I "sunk" any peace agreement are pure bull crap!
> Interested parties can search the archives surrounding the date and
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com

Oh for Christ's Sake.....how in the HELL can Ilena 'claim' you did
anything?  If people read the archives (if they actually find any of
this sh.t the least bit interesting), they will see I got fed up with
her dilly-dallying and missing the DEADLINE.

I announced at that time I was putting my website back up and MY terms
if another peace attempt was desired.  The archives show Ilena
ignoring what I posted about the fact that she missed the DEADLINE and
that the game was over.  Instead she continued to play around with
'kinda' hit and miss removing my name from all the sh.t-list webpages
she had my name on.

None of which had a DAMN thing to do with anything you or anyone else
said in this newsgroup.
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 30 Apr 2008 16:47 GMT
> None of which had a DAMN thing to do with anything you or anyone else
> said in this newsgroup.

I think based on this thread's he said she said, they said, that we
are missing the point
of the MHA's charter, and another venue for this dispute might be a
better option.
Have you ever thought of taking it back channel for an email
discussion?

Just a thought.
Coleah - 30 Apr 2008 19:09 GMT
On Apr 30, 10:47 am, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote:

> > None of which had a DAMN thing to do with anything you or anyone else
> > said in this newsgroup.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Just a thought.

Plain and simple....it is none of Bolen's business.
If he or Rosenthal chose to continually post things 'off topic' for
the MHA's charter, I will continue to reply (if I happen to feel like
batting at their lifeless, dangling worms......she says in her loudest
witch-kackle!)

http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
The Explanations, Opinions and Doubting Questions
Myrl - 30 Apr 2008 19:45 GMT
> Plain and simple....it is none of Bolen's business.
> If he or Rosenthal chose to continually post things 'off topic' for
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
> The Explanations, Opinions and Doubting Questions

Absolutely correct - Bolen and Rosenthal enjoy peeing on folks legs,
while trying to convice that it's raining!

You'd wear yourself out trying to convince them about things they
already know, but are trying to spin otherwise!
 
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