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Ilena - did Polevoy send the $311k check yet? Those Mother's Day Sales are almost here...
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Ilena Rose - 30 Apr 2008 03:09 GMT Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: Despite Coleah's claims ... the court said otherwise.
Martin Rady ... indeed, over $311,000 is still outstanding on the nearly half a million in court fees for Grell & Barrett & Polevoy. www.breastImplantAwareness.org/BarrettVsRosenthal.htm
www.BreastImplantImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html Her interference sunk the 'peace plan' between Penley Ayers and myself.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/patrickoleary.htm Silicone exec who hides behind Penley Ayers & Jeffcoat.
Penley-Ayers had admitted she was going to 'use' O'leary's $9K+ judgement as a 'legal excuse' to hunt me down and attempt to access my bank accounts in August, 2004. http://apps.alameda.courts.ca.gov/fortecgi/fortecgi.exe?Servicename=DomainWebSer vice&PageName=Image&ID=1&Parent=13236917&Action=19900555
After that, she admitted she approached silicone exec O'leary to get him to assign this to her.
Her postingthis information on Usenet was against federal law, according to my legal experts.
Despite her claims,in fact, the court ruled against Penley Ayers and further sustained our objections. This meant the court agreed with us that what Penley Ayers provided to the Alameda Court was NOT sufficient to back her claims.
What is particularly interesting ... is that after bragging of her "6 digit income' ... and further admitting she chased O'leary to get her to assign this to her ... she pleaded with the court that she was going to suffer irreparable loss and harm.
The court didn't believe her either.
www.BreastImplantImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm
"Without an order To Apply Judgment and Appointment of Receiver the Lien Claimant will suffer irreparable loss and harm.
http://apps.alameda.courts.ca.gov/fortecgi/fortecgi.exe?Servicename=DomainWebSer vice&PageName=Image&ID=1&Parent=13236917&Action=19900555
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/SBIPrivateClub.htm .
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From: "coleah" coleah@pacifier.com Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 16:36:13 -0700 Subject: [SBIPrivateClub] FW: Search for Ilena Rosenthal
Okay, we're getting close to finding Ilena. This email is going out to everyone who has held an interest in locating Ilena.
The private investigator is lined up and there are just a few details to work out.
To cover the group's desire for the investigation, Patrick's judgment will be the legal justification for looking her and her bank accounts and balances.
I told Patrick that we didn't expect him to pay for all this, because it is our idea and we need him as a legal excuse for doing a search.
From: "coleah" coleah@pacifier.com Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 00:05:40 -0700 Subject: [SBIPrivateClub] Moving on.....Next Ilena Project
Okay, we go. Moving along to approaching the IRS and CA to get Ilena's non-profit yanked. This will be a challenge as the federal government does not have staff to look into non-profits and when they do find a violation they go for 'hand slapping' first. What I would ask is for everyone to look over the items below to get an idea of the 'issues' we can look into and the bring up to CA and the IRS. If one item grabs you as one you would like to look more deeply into, please let me know. If we all take a piece and research we can move through all this more quickly. (Please, please, please !!!)
And if you have ideas of other things that could be looked into, please let me know and I'll add it to this list. After we've explored the issues, I'll gather everyone's input and fine tune the plan of proceeding. We did it with the FDA. This will be a bit more intensive. Let the fun began!! Coleah
From: "coleah" coleah@pacifier.com Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 00:05:40 -0700 Subject: [SBIPrivateClub] Moving on.....Next Ilena Project
Okay, we go. Moving along to approaching the IRS and CA to get Ilena's non-profit yanked. This will be a challenge as the federal government does not have staff to look into non-profits and when they do find a violation they go for 'hand slapping' first. What I would ask is for everyone to look over the items below to get an idea of the 'issues' we can look into and the bring up to CA and the IRS. If one item grabs you as one you would like to look more deeply into, please let me know. If we all take a piece and research we can move through all this more quickly. (Please, please, please !!!)
And if you have ideas of other things that could be looked into, please let me know and I'll add it to this list. After we've explored the issues, I'll gather everyone's input and fine tune the plan of proceeding. We did it with the FDA. This will be a bit more intensive. Let the fun began!! Coleah
Ilena Rose - 30 Apr 2008 03:11 GMT http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm (b) COMMUNICATION WITH THIRD PARTIES. Except as provided in section 804, without the prior consent of the consumer given directly to the debt collector, or the express permission of a court of competent jurisdiction, or as reasonably necessary to effectuate a postjudgment judicial remedy, a debt collector may not communicate, in connection with the collection of any debt, with any person other than a consumer, his attorney, a consumer reporting agency if otherwise permitted by law, the creditor, the attorney of the creditor, or the attorney of the debt collector.
Coleah - 30 Apr 2008 05:29 GMT > http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm > (b) COMMUNICATION WITH THIRD PARTIES. Except as provided in section [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > permitted by law, the creditor, the attorney of the creditor, or the > attorney of the debt collector. --------------------------------------------------- Well gosh, Little Ms 'Consumer'.......pray tell......Precisely WHAT did you 'consume' regarding Patrick O'Leary's Judgment against you in Superior court ????????????????????????????
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Peter Bowditch - 30 Apr 2008 06:30 GMT >http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm >(b) COMMUNICATION WITH THIRD PARTIES. Except as provided in section [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >permitted by law, the creditor, the attorney of the creditor, or the >attorney of the debt collector. Now, let me get this straight.
1) Coleah is not the assignee of the debt because the court rejected it.
2) Coleah is breaking some law by revealing the details of the assignment.
So, if there is no assignment, how can she be breaking the law? Have you asked your legal team that (assuming that they will talk to you without a guarantee of payment)?
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Coleah - 30 Apr 2008 16:07 GMT > >http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.htm > >(b) COMMUNICATION WITH THIRD PARTIES. Except as provided in section [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > Peter Bowditch aa #2243 Well, as I asked (and clearly have gotten no response from Ilena Rosenthal)....what did she (as a consumer) 'consume' regarding the 'debt transaction' of the O'Leary Judgment?
(5) The term “debt” means any obligation or alleged obligation of a consumer to pay money "arising out of a transaction in which the money, property, insurance or services which are the subject of the transaction" are primarily for "personal, family, or household purposes", whether or not such obligation has been reduced to judgment.
All of Rosenthal's whining can not balance the fact that after I privately served her many legal documents (and was silent in any newsgroup about the process), it was SHE who brought the issue to light by posting about it (in various newsgroups) for the entire world to view her 'dirty panties'....NOT I.
I do believe that she shows signs of untreated mental illness, and will try to twist anything to appear 'the poor, picked-on victim'.....to cover her own acts of irresponsibility.
Jan Drew - 01 May 2008 06:44 GMT "Coleah" <coleah@pacifier.com> wrote repeatedly about her ememies: I do believe that she shows signs of untreated mental illness
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Ilena Rose - 30 Apr 2008 03:13 GMT Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:
No, Tim.
Mark S Probert, part of the Snake-oil Vigilante Legal Team ... was disbarred by the NY Supreme Court and ordered to cease forever giving his legal opinions. Yet he's been very vocal about his belief that we have no authority over Polevoy here in California, where THEY chose to sue us. In an earlier thread, he is canvassing to get ammunition for their plan.
It all seems very highly orchestrated by Barrett, Langer, Probert, Polevoy, Grell and others on their Snake-oil Team. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Terry-Polevoy www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/polevoy.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Langer
I did learn in a quick read of the current round of court papers in our attempts to collect the rest of the over $312,000 debt for my attorneys fees, that Polevoy never paid a cent into his proportioned part. Whoever antied up for Grell & Barrett paid the joint part for Polevoy believing, apparently, the same thing as disbarred Probert is giving as legal advice.
Makes up wonder too ... who financed this whole huge lawsuit ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
This coming week is another hearing regarding a Bond we have for this very possibility ... they claim it has nothing to do with Polevoy. We disagree. I'll let you know what the judge says.
Also, they are so desperate not to pay and keep my legal team occupied with every objection their legal team (apparently Probert is one, according to his words) ... they are even re-using a same idiotic losing argument that they have before.
They claim that since when Mark Goldowitz took my case in early 2001, and we had a signed agreement regarding the very topic of fees when we prevailed, in Quacklandia they claim that I have no standing to make the motions I am.
Their Snake-oil team has also claimed that Mr. Goldowitz's and my attorney / client agreement somehow reflected badly on me. In fact, I had perfect credit when I got SLAPP sued and have been forced to defend myself against this group of professional corporate lobbyists, attorneys, and their smear campaign team since them at great financial and personal expenses.
There is nothing in over 7 years that I have done or said, or they have claimed I have done or said, that one of these people haven't found a reason to criticize and make me wrong.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/snake-oil.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/langervsilena.htm Being updated
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/sandraprobert.htm Text of Dismarment Papers
Here he is giving his legal opinion regarding American Quack / MD, Terry Alan Polevoy, who lives in Canada, yet used the California Court System for 7 years of legal assaults against me.
Here is an earlier thread. http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_frm/thread/f674056 131a2d5a0/af3277f9be220d3f?lnk=gst&q=polevoy+hiding+mark+probert#af3277f9be220d3 f
Quoth Disbarred Probert:
"Do explain how they can get jurisdiction over Canadian property and income? IIRC, there is a Canadian law that will allow Polevoy to challenge any executions that arfe based on judgements not consistent with Canadian law. "
After all 3 SLAPP suit plaintiffs lost to me in Superior Court (and Coleah Penlely Ayers and Myrl Jeffcoat joined their assaults against me), the 3 losers owed only around $33K in my legal fees.
After the Appeals Court ruled again against "Dr. Sue" Barrett and malicious prosecutor Grell ... and decided that one comment I reposted about Polevoy would have to be fully litigated to see if the facts showed that he was 'libeled' ... Polevoy was offered a total walk-away. He would owe nothing ... I would owe nothing ... and we would not have to go back to Superior Court where I fully believe it would be proven that he in fact, followed Ms McPhee around, wore disguises, did his typical email bombing to her bosses, etc. etc.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Polevoy.htm
Polevoy refused ... he held fast with Barrett & Grell ... demanding that all their legal fees also be dropped, or he would march forward!
We filed with the Supreme Court ... the rest is history. The Supreme Court of California once again reiterated that Sue Happy Barrett had not been 'defamed' (yet he continues to cry and beg for money and fills the internet with the lie that he lost on a 'technicality) and ruled that reposting another person's words was not actionable.
The total bill for my attorneys fees were around $55K for the Superior Court ... and an additional $470K for the Appeals and Supreme Court.
Whoever antied up for Barrett & Grell ... also paid any portion of their legal fees that included Polevoy ... except they left around $312,000 that was solely me defending myself against Polevoy alone.
Now it appears that failed and disbarred former attorney Mark S Probert was in on the planning and has given them legal advice that if Grell (who lives here in California) and Polevoy dumped each other ... because Polevoy is hiding (according to Probert) in Canada ... he need not pay his legal fees.
"Do explain how they can get jurisdiction over Canadian property and income? IIRC, there is a Canadian law that will allow Polevoy to challenge any executions that arfe based on judgements not consistent with Canadian law. "
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/barrettVsRosenthal.htm
Coleah - 30 Apr 2008 05:32 GMT > Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: (snip whine)
> After all 3 SLAPP suit plaintiffs lost to me in Superior Court (and > Coleah Penlely Ayers and Myrl Jeffcoat joined their assaults against > me), the 3 losers owed only around $33K in my legal fees. Name dropper....at least you could spell it correctly http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Peter Bowditch - 30 Apr 2008 06:33 GMT >I did learn in a quick read of the current round of court papers in >our attempts to collect the rest of the over $312,000 debt for my >attorneys fees, that Polevoy never paid a cent into his proportioned >part. Whoever antied up for Grell & Barrett paid the joint part for >Polevoy believing, apparently, the same thing as disbarred Probert is >giving as legal advice. Now let me get this straight.
1) Dr Polevoy's "proportioned part" was paid by someone.
2) Dr Polevoy's "proportioned part" has not been paid by anyone.
Please explain.
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Mark Probert - 30 Apr 2008 14:02 GMT > Note from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to sue us. In an earlier thread, he is canvassing to get ammunition > for their plan. Ilena, you left out the part where I said I was wrong when I expressed my personal opinion.
Please do keep that in mind when you post.
Thanks a bunch.
Myrl - 30 Apr 2008 04:03 GMT Ilena's claims that I "sunk" any peace agreement are pure bull crap! Interested parties can search the archives surrounding the date and time of the agreement, and Ilena's failure to remove any webpages whatsoever. She chose instead to leave up the URLs with offensive addressing, which left Coleah's name in them, while switching out content. And each and everyone of those intact webpages, had Ilena Rosenthal's tollgate Paypal, "please send me money" link on them.
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Coleah - 30 Apr 2008 05:48 GMT > Ilena's claims that I "sunk" any peace agreement are pure bull crap! > Interested parties can search the archives surrounding the date and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com Oh for Christ's Sake.....how in the HELL can Ilena 'claim' you did anything? If people read the archives (if they actually find any of this sh.t the least bit interesting), they will see I got fed up with her dilly-dallying and missing the DEADLINE.
I announced at that time I was putting my website back up and MY terms if another peace attempt was desired. The archives show Ilena ignoring what I posted about the fact that she missed the DEADLINE and that the game was over. Instead she continued to play around with 'kinda' hit and miss removing my name from all the sh.t-list webpages she had my name on.
None of which had a DAMN thing to do with anything you or anyone else said in this newsgroup.
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 30 Apr 2008 16:47 GMT > None of which had a DAMN thing to do with anything you or anyone else > said in this newsgroup. I think based on this thread's he said she said, they said, that we are missing the point of the MHA's charter, and another venue for this dispute might be a better option. Have you ever thought of taking it back channel for an email discussion?
Just a thought.
Coleah - 30 Apr 2008 19:09 GMT On Apr 30, 10:47 am, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote:
> > None of which had a DAMN thing to do with anything you or anyone else > > said in this newsgroup. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Just a thought. Plain and simple....it is none of Bolen's business. If he or Rosenthal chose to continually post things 'off topic' for the MHA's charter, I will continue to reply (if I happen to feel like batting at their lifeless, dangling worms......she says in her loudest witch-kackle!)
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com The Explanations, Opinions and Doubting Questions
Myrl - 30 Apr 2008 19:45 GMT > Plain and simple....it is none of Bolen's business. > If he or Rosenthal chose to continually post things 'off topic' for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com > The Explanations, Opinions and Doubting Questions Absolutely correct - Bolen and Rosenthal enjoy peeing on folks legs, while trying to convice that it's raining!
You'd wear yourself out trying to convince them about things they already know, but are trying to spin otherwise!
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