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Comparing numbers for Diphtheria cases

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Myrl - 23 Apr 2008 23:15 GMT
According to the figures presented at: http://www.whale.to/v/diptheria.htm,
there were 68 Diphtheria vaccine deaths in the 29 years between
1919-1948 globally.

Now let's compare that to the numbers below for Diphtheria cases:

DIPHTHERIA

At one time, diphtheria was common in the United States. More than
200,000 cases, primarily among children, were reported in 1921.
Approximately 5%-10% of cases were fatal; the highest case-fatality
ratios were recorded for the very young and the elderly. Reported
cases of diphtheria of all types declined from 306 in 1975 to 59 in
1979; most were cutaneous diphtheria reported from a single state (3).
After 1979, cutaneous diphtheria was no longer notifiable. From 1980
to 1989, only 24 cases of respiratory diphtheria were reported; two
cases were fatal, and 18 (75%) occurred among persons greater than or
equal to 20 years of age.
PeterB - 24 Apr 2008 00:46 GMT
> According to the figures presented at:http://www.whale.to/v/diptheria.htm,
> there were 68 Diphtheria vaccine deaths in the 29 years between
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> cases were fatal, and 18 (75%) occurred among persons greater than or
> equal to 20 years of age.

Post hoc ergo proctor hoc.  I think intelligent people these days are
starting to see that association is not causation.  Almost all of the
decline in diptheria-related deaths, as with measles, happened
*before* the vaccine was even introduced.  Look it up.
D. C. Sessions - 24 Apr 2008 04:53 GMT
> Post hoc ergo proctor hoc.  I think intelligent people these days are
> starting to see that association is not causation.  Almost all of the
> decline in diptheria-related deaths, as with measles, happened
> *before* the vaccine was even introduced.  Look it up.

That's right -- the antitoxin did a great job of reducing
the case mortality, just as antibiotics reduced the case
mortality of measles.

I'll make note of the fact that you consider a fatality
rate of a few thousand per year in the USA or a few
million per year in Africa to be beneath concern.

| sh.t happens.  Sometimes it happens to you. |
+--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+
Richard Schultz - 24 Apr 2008 11:53 GMT
In misc.health.alternative PeterB <pkm@mytrashmail.com> wrote:

: Post hoc ergo proctor hoc.  

One event follows another, therefore it's a dormitory supervisor?

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Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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