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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / April 2008Mark Probert Has Emailed His Brother-In-Law At Homeland Security About a VERY benign email exchange. Very Strange!!!!!
What an incredible Springtime ... http://ilenarose.blogspot.com Here's a question from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: Whose actions are worse: Dr. Kulacz's for posting an email detailing a very serious threat from Mark S Probert's relative? Or Mark S Probert, being disbarred by the Supreme Court of New York and when faced with the facts on this group, denied, denied, denied, denied it ? ? ? www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/SandraProbert.htm > What an incredible Springtime ... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Dr. Kulacz's for posting an email detailing a very serious threat from > Mark S Probert's relative? There was no threat wha-so-ever from anyone. Please stop confabulating. > There was no threat wha-so-ever from anyone. Please stop > confabulating. Bullshit, dickweed. You did it on purpose - to attempt to put fear in that email. Someone says something you don't like, and you run off and tell your brother 'n' law. That's wrong period. You love making people fear you as if you have some kind of special power. As I have said before, the war is over in Viet Nam, you can quit thinking that there is. Dr. Kulacz has gone through quite enough. He came to this forum to talk about alternative health, and to discuss what transpired with him, and some of the usual suspects did not like the fact that he opened up and shared--- What if someone did that to you -- and took you out of doing whatever it really is that you do for living -- took your career away from you-- you would not like that at all....would you? It is almost like he is being punished for believing in integrated health care. And then you want to stomp on him some more and kick him, by telling your brother 'n' law. Where are your ethics? > > There was no threat wha-so-ever from anyone. Please stop > > confabulating. > > Bullshit, dickweed. You did it on purpose - to attempt to put > fear in that email. Someone says something you don't like, and you > run off and tell your brother 'n' law. It was not about soemething that I did not like. It was about hunting down ancient information about me that has no relevance here, and, inadvertently bringing into this discussion a person who has asked me to let him know whenever someone mentions his name. That's wrong period. You > love > making people fear you as if you have some kind of special power. Do go and prove that. Do I goaround looking up things from decades ago about people here? If you "think" so post the proof. Otherwise, you lied. > As I have said before, the war is over in Viet Nam, you can quit > thinking that there is. Only you seem to mention that. You seem, shall we say, obsessed? Dr. Kulacz has gone through quite enough. > He came to this forum to talk about alternative health, and to discuss > what transpired with him, and some of the usual suspects did not like > the fact that he opened up and shared--- To the contrary, that is not true. > What if someone did that to you -- and took you out of doing whatever > it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > your > ethics? You do have a vivid imagination. > > > There was no threat wha-so-ever from anyone. Please stop > > > confabulating. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > To the contrary, that is not true. Yes it is true Mark. That is why I am only posting here in response to posts about me that require clarification. There is no use in discussing healthcare topics here, which is what I wanted to do.There is too much anger here and I do not want any part of it except to clarify a point. > > What if someone did that to you -- and took you out of doing whatever > > it [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > You do have a vivid imagination. All I know is what happened to me with my career and the NYSED and the QW people. It was not about truth. It was not about justice. I want out of this negativity and seek peace. Life is too short. I request that everybody leave me out of thier posts. Thank you > > > > There was no threat wha-so-ever from anyone. Please stop > > > > confabulating. [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Typo correction on last post: should read I request that everybody leave me out of their posts. I came here with the intent of engaging in stimulating (not insulting) healthcare discussions. Unfortunately after a while I got caught up in the negative energy of this forum. I would go so far as to call this forum haterful at times. I regret ever coming here. I regret some of my posts. The negativity is not something that I want in my life. I have had enough attempting to do what is right in my career only to find that courruption is everywhere. I want to tend my own garden and not be involved in these type of forums. As I stated, my only posts will be to clarify statements that I have made used by other posts. (If I see them) However I again ask that I not be included in any further posts by others. I have only been here a very short time and this group has been going on long before I arrived and will continue on without me posting. Thank you. > On Apr 24, 5:32 pm, MarkProbert<mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Yes it is true Mark. I should have been clearer. What is NOT true is that some people, as Bee said, did not like that you opened up and shared. That was not the case at all. As for the rest, I do agree that you got screwed. The SED and the OPMC do have a strong tendency to screw people. > Or Mark S Probert, being disbarred by the Supreme Court of New York > and when faced with the facts on this group, denied, denied, denied, > denied it ? ? ? Ofcourse he is denying it, and keeps denying it. But the address matches too many places and the next thing he will deny is being married to his wife. He would have to deny that and then he could deny that his brother 'n' law really isn't his brother 'n' law, and his sister 'n' law really isn't his sister 'n' law, and that that corporation in Florida that was dissolved by the State, really isn't him either. It's either one or the other. Yes, he is not that disbarred attorney, or he is. And if he is not, then he has deny his family members, meaning there is no brother n' law in Homeland Security. Which is is Probert? Door A or Door B? And speaking of Florida --- I thought you couldn't work for an attorney after being disbarred. Isn't one of the owners indeed an attorney? > that corporation in Florida that was dissolved by the State, really > isn't him either. If I am correct, you have been snooping around in non-public databases. I thought you wanted peace. Here you go fomenting strife. H Y P O C R I T E . > If I am correct, you have been snooping around in non-public > databases. You are incorrect. Public records that anyone can access. On Apr 25, 11:03 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > . > > > If I am correct, you have been snooping around in non-public > > databases. > > You are incorrect. Public records that anyone can access. You still have no business doing it. What is YOUR motive, to try to silence me? You bleat and bray at everything I do, and then you go on a snooping expedition. You HATE free speech for anyone but you and your cronies. BTW, I do not believe you. > You still have no business doing it. What is YOUR motive, to try to > silence me? You bleat and bray at everything I do, and then you go on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > BTW, I do not believe you. I do not care what you believe, because I am telling the truth. As far as the free speech goes, it works in both directions, this is an example of case in point. You and your friends think nothing of posting Ilena's IRS information or the fact that owes that O'Leary individual guy some change, and Bolen's IRS information out there. Yet, when someone does it to one of your gang, you are offended. The free speech has got to work both ways. I was offended when you made mention that my woods were prettier than Bolen's. I have not told anyone here where I live---so how would you even know where I lived? You made comments about the people I was hanging out with. How would you even know--you wouldn't. When you started your nosing around about me, is when I started my nosing around about you. It is right in public records. I do not have any special databases that I can get into. I do not have any special powers nor am I connected with a private investigator as you would appear to be in your Florida office. On Apr 26, 9:22 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > You still have no business doing it. What is YOUR motive, to try to > silence me? You bleat and bray at everything I do, and then you go on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > BTW, I do not believe you. I do not care what you believe, because I am telling the truth. As far as the free speech goes, it works in both directions, this is an example of case in point. You and your friends think nothing of posting Ilena's IRS information or the fact that owes that O'Leary individual guy some change, and Bolen's IRS information out there. Yet, when someone does it to one of your gang, you are offended. ---- But--you said there are no gangs here. ---- The free speech has got to work both ways. I was offended when you made mention that my woods were prettier than Bolen's. I have not told anyone here where I live---so how would you even know where I lived? You made comments about the people I was hanging out with. How would you even know--you wouldn't. When you started your nosing around about me, is when I started my nosing around about you. It is right in public records. I do not have any special databases that I can get into. I do not have any special powers nor am I connected with a private investigator as you would appear to be in your Florida office. > But--you said there are no gangs here. There are no gangs here -- but there are thugs connected. <Butterflies2222@gmail.com> wrote in message news:80df8c84-01f2-441d-8579-22bf08e42d90@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... On Apr 26, 3:59 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > But--you said there are no gangs here. There are no gangs here -- but there are thugs connected. Please stop making yourself to be a liar by your very own words. > Please stop making yourself to be a liar by your very own words. Do you know the meaning of libel, Jan? On Apr 26, 3:56 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > > You still have no business doing it. What is YOUR motive, to try to > > silence me? You bleat and bray at everything I do, and then you go on [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I do not care what you believe, because I am telling the truth. Sure you are. I spent a hour trying to locate information on that state's publicly accessible databases, and, guess what, Toots? It ain't there. That would be the only place it would be publicly available. > As far as the free speech goes, it works in both directions, this is > an example of > case in point. You and your friends think nothing of posting Ilena's > IRS information Sorry, idiot, but I did not post Ilena's IRS information. Since I did not, take this whine and use it for a cleanse. Note, however, that Ilena does not hesitate to post personal information. or > the fact that owes that O'Leary individual guy some change, and > Bolen's IRS information > out there. Bolen has posted personal information about people, including me. I have never posted anything personal about him. Yet, when someone does it to one of your gang, you are > offended. Bolen asks for it, when he does it to others. > The free speech has got to work both ways. So, why do you not PRACTICE that? Why snoop as you did? The ONLY purpose was a feeble attempt to silence me. Nothing else parses. > I was offended when you made mention that my woods were prettier than > Bolen's. I happen to love the Pacific Northwest. I lived there for a year, and enjoyed the woods, etc. I was born not far from Bolen, and never really liked them. And, being offended? Do you have a grasp of reality? I have not > told anyone here where I live---so how would you even know where I > lived? You made comments > about the people I was hanging out with. How would you even know--you > wouldn't. No, I have not. That is incorrect. I refer to your imaginary friends. The ones that conveniently pop up when you need bolstering in a claim. > When you started your nosing around about me, is when I started my > nosing around about you. I never nosed about you beyond running your NNTP posting host. That is as far as it went. > It is right in public records. I do not have any special databases > that I can get into. I do not have > any special powers nor am I connected with a private investigator as > you would appear to be in your > Florida office. No, it is not. > Sure you are. I spent a hour trying to locate information on that > state's publicly accessible databases, and, guess what, Toots? It > ain't there. That would be the only place it would be publicly > available. I just emailed you the public record. You couldn't possibly have looked for an hour. I found it in 5 minutes. Very easy search. Just because you cannot find it, calling me a liar is not a good thing. Very easy. Public records are OPEN TO the public. There is nothing magic about that. When your friends quit putting up information about Ilena, and Bolen, and others, I'm sure your information will cease as well. Many States have public records on line--that state is not the only one. That's how I found the assignment judgment for Ilena--and got into the court docs. On Apr 27, 4:50 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > When your friends quit putting up information about Ilena, and Bolen, > and others, I'm sure [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Ilena--and got into the > court docs. That, a.shole, is extortion. Nothing more, nothing less. And, I expected you to stoop that low. On Apr 27, 4:50 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > When your friends quit putting up information about Ilena, and Bolen, > and others, I'm sure [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Ilena--and got into the > court docs. That, a.shole, is extortion. Nothing more, nothing less. . What is being "extorted" Mark? > On Apr 27, 4:50 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > . > What is being "extorted" Mark? My right of free speech. > > . > >Probert: What is being "extorted" Mark? > >Tools: My right of free speech. Let me see if I get this correctly, Probert. You have a right to free speech and no one else here does? Nothing is being extorted here Probert. On Apr 28, 8:57 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > . > > >Probert: What is being "extorted" Mark? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Let me see if I get this correctly, Probert. You have a right to free > speech and no one else here does? No, and you are being stupid again. I never ever claimed that. I describe you as stupid since I have told you this a million times. When you finally demonstrate the ability to learn, I will stop describing you as stupid, since you will no longer Bee. > Nothing is being extorted here Probert. Only you "think" that. On Apr 28, 9:24 am, "news" <tool...@gmail.com> wrote: > "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > . > What is being "extorted" Mark? My right of free speech. Bwahahahahaha!!! > My right of free speech. What about everyone else's right to free speech? Every one has the right to free speech, and it is equal. Think of it this way...."Your rights end, where my rights begin, and my rights end, where yours begin." When you think positive, instead of in the negative -- you will start seeing that the world isn't such a bad place after all. Then you can break up those negative thought patterns, that have for years and years and years been tormenting you and have given you some kind of warped authority that it is OK to call people "stupid," and "moron," when they do not agree with you. Do you really want to be a bully the rest of your life? On Apr 29, 1:17 am, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > > My right of free speech. > > What about everyone else's right to free speech? Every one has the > right to free speech, and it is equal. Red herring. Look it up, and learn what it is. Then, you will be on the way to knowledge. I have explained my position a million times, and you persist in trying to mischaracterize it. That is the sign of a stupid person. When you learn, you will no longer be showing signs of being a stupid person. > Think of it this way...."Your rights end, where my rights begin, and > my rights end, where yours begin." And, you do not practice it. HYPOCRITE. > When you think positive, instead of in the negative -- you will start > seeing that the world isn't such a bad > place after all. As I do. The world is a very good place, areas neeed improvement, and when you begin to learn how to comprehend what is written, it will improve even more. > Then you can break up those negative thought patterns, that have for > years and years and years been > tormenting you Being self referential again! and have given you some kind of warped authority that > it is OK to call people "stupid," and > "moron," when they do not agree with you. Do you really want to be > a bully the rest of your life? I do not call people anything when they disagree with me. I use those terms to describe behavior where I explain something to a person, such as you, and that person, such as you, persists in mischaracterizing what I say. Some people call that a lie. They are wrong. That *behavior* is just plain stupid. > That, a.shole, is extortion. Nothing more, nothing less. > > And, I expected you to stoop that low. That's not extortion. I am referring to all of the low blow comments that you, and others have made about alternative health treatments-----to the people that support PRO CHOICE. You want people to be nice to you, then stop making nasty comments about their beliefs--calling people idiots, morons, etc, because you don't like their own personal choices. When you change your attitude, the rest of the world will be in sync with you--- And no one is stifling the speech (before you go there). On Apr 28, 8:45 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > > That, a.shole, is extortion. Nothing more, nothing less. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > alternative health treatments-----to the people that support PRO > CHOICE. You mean like pointing out why they cannot work? > You want people to be nice to you, then stop making nasty comments > about their beliefs--calling people idiots, morons, etc, because you > don't like their own personal choices. I do not call people idiots for that reason. I call them, and you, because of posts like this one. > When you change your attitude, the rest of the world will be in sync > with you--- > > And no one is stifling the speech (before you go there). Bullshit. All natural bullshit., > Bullshit. All natural bullshit., There are more flies around your posts than an entire field of cow patties. And Olde Manure #5 is not becoming on a man of your age. Why is it that you have to be in a constant upheaval and attacking people - and then claim, "oh you are stifling speech." Do have your programmer reprogram you and put some happy pills in your daily dose of medicines----and start looking at life being happy instead living in the doom and gloom. No one is attempting to stifle your speech --- it would appear to be the reverse --- back to the aerobics class I see. And I checked today with an attorney ---as much as they really do not belong here -- being off topic and all, since court records are public record --- it would appear that you may be attempting to stifle my speech with my right to discuss court cases on this forum. There also is no extortion---I'm not demanding anything. What it is is this --- you enjoy calling people a variety of names --- and yell stifling speech -- yet when someone decides to "fight back," after you have insulted their intelligence, and decides to talk about matters in which you do not want to talk about, then you get all shitty about it. As I said your rights begin where my rights end, and my rights begin where your rights end. Accept what has happened in the past and go on. You'll find when you start to treat people better, they will treat you better in return. You'll find when you do not slam someone up against the wall, and have your friends pound on them with their insulting comments, that the other side will not attack---- This forum is too toxic, and too negative....it would appear that you like to sit in the mud and be a pig. I do not choose that option. > > I was offended when you made mention that my woods were prettier than > > Bolen's. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > And, being offended? Do you have a grasp of reality? I have never said where I live - Why would you say Pacific Northwest? I have learned recently -- differently. I do not believe anything you say at this point. I had a entertaining unsolicited telephone call recently. I learned a lot about you, and your capabilities -- it is amazing what your "friends" will say about you, when they wake up and discover there is something going on that they do not want to be a part of. Didn't realize my name and cell number was out on the internet -- but apparently someone here did. I know probably a lot more about you that that telephone call gave me, that actually did check out. Not only do I not believe you --- there is zero trust--- <Butterflies2222@gmail.com> wrote in message news:16c18ab8-f7a4-41a7-86e9-48b23045974a@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... On Apr 27, 1:22 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I was offended when you made mention that my woods were prettier than > > Bolen's. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > And, being offended? Do you have a grasp of reality? I have never said where I live - Why would you say Pacific Northwest? From your posts--three hours behind EST. I have learned recently -- differently. I do not believe anything you say at this point. I had a entertaining unsolicited telephone call recently. ZZzz. I learned a lot about you, and your capabilities -- it is amazing what your "friends" will say about you, when they wake up and discover there is something going on that they do not want to be a part of. Didn't realize my name and cell number was out on the internet -- but apparently someone here did. I know probably a lot more about you that that telephone call gave me, that actually did check out. lol. Not only do I not believe you --- there is zero trust--- > From your posts--three hours behind EST. That covers 4 states --- Oregon, California, Nevada, Washington, parts of Idaho and Arizona. > I have learned recently -- differently. > I do not believe anything you say at this point. > I had a entertaining unsolicited telephone call recently. > > ZZzz. Were you the woman that called me and told me about Probert, claiming they found my information on the net? On Apr 27, 6:23 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I was offended when you made mention that my woods were prettier than > > > Bolen's. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I have never said where I live - > Why would you say Pacific Northwest? That is where WHOIS, etc. places your NNTP posting host. Paranoid, fabricated drivel deleted. > That is where WHOIS, etc. places your NNTP posting host. > > Paranoid, fabricated drivel deleted. No, it doesn't....Qwest and I just had this conversation yesterday and again today---it shows up in Denver, and that's it. How anyone has anything beyond that they were questioning as well, as was the FCC. I'm not paranoid -- it would appear that the individuals that are paranoid would be the ones doing the hacking, stalking, and harassing. It would appear that there are individuals that have entirely too much time on their hands that found out where I live to be of their main concern. I haven't put it out here---for a reason. On Apr 28, 8:56 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > > That is where WHOIS, etc. places your NNTP posting host. > > > Paranoid, fabricated drivel deleted. > > No, it doesn't. Yes it is. ...Qwest and I just had this conversation yesterday and > again today---it shows up in Denver, and that's > it. How anyone has anything beyond that they were questioning as [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > entirely too much time on their hands that found out where I live to > be of their main concern. I haven't put it out here---for a reason. So you say. ONLY you say. > On Apr 26, 3:56 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Note, however, that Ilena does not hesitate to post personal > information. YOU Mark S Probert Merrick NY posted YOUR own personal information. > or >> the fact that owes that O'Leary individual guy some change, and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Bolen asks for it, when he does it to others. YOU and YOU alone are responsibile for your OWN posts. >> The free speech has got to work both ways. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > No, it is not. > You still have no business doing it. What is YOUR motive, to try to > silence me? You bleat and bray at everything I do, and then you go on > a snooping expedition. No one is attempting to silence you--it would appear that the PRO Choice group is being attacked as if we were the Viet Cong, in the 60's, and the Quackwatch supporters were the U.S. "yea old protector." I love the fact that my passwords were changed to my accounts, hackers codes, national security information was being stored in my computer, child porn, ---nothing like dishonest people --snooping into the lives of people electronically---where I live--cyberstalking is illegal---and is enforced. Not to worry, I got a "heads up" of who is targeting me, and it would appear to come from QW supporters, and the thugs that accompany the ilk. No one needs protecting. That's why there are honest --attorneys that have not been disbarred - they protect their clients--there is no need for a biased consumer group to exist. On Apr 27, 5:05 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > > You still have no business doing it. What is YOUR motive, to try to > > silence me? You bleat and bray at everything I do, and then you go on > > a snooping expedition. > > No one is attempting to silence you-- You are a damn liar. You just posted this: "When your friends quit putting up information about Ilena, and Bolen, and others, I'm sure your information will cease as well. Many States have public records on line--that state is not the only one." That IS extortion. Nothing more, nothing less. And it was expected. it would appear that the PRO > Choice group is being attacked as if we were > the Viet Cong, in the 60's, You seem obsessed with that. and the Quackwatch supporters were the > U.S. "yea old protector." I love the fact that my passwords were > changed to my accounts, hackers codes, national security information [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > got a "heads up" of who is targeting me, and it would appear to come > from QW supporters, and the thugs that accompany the ilk. The only heads up is YOURS, and yours is in your anus. > BeeNo one is attempting to silence you-- > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and others, I'm sure your information will cease as well. Many States > have public records on line--that state is not the only one." You don't like when people say things that are true about you -- yet, when you do it its OK??? Let me see if I understand this equation correctly? >Probert: That IS extortion. Nothing more, nothing less. And it was expected. Nope not at all. >Bee it would appear that the PRO > > > Choice group is being attacked as if we were > > the Viet Cong, in the 60's, > > Probert You seem obsessed with that. I'm not obsessed but it would appear you like playing war games online in this newsgroup. Mind control games -- calling people stupid, and moron, and bullying them. Just like the game of war is played- > and the Quackwatch supporters were the > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Probert: The only heads up is YOURS, and yours is in your anus. Not only hardly--there you go again, opening your mouth and removing all doubt. On Apr 28, 8:50 pm, Butterflies1...@gmail.com wrote: > > BeeNo one is attempting to silence you-- > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > when you do it its OK??? Let me see if I understand this equation > correctly? Agin, you lie. I do not like it when snoops go snooping. Your only purpose is to stifle my speech. > >Probert: That IS extortion. Nothing more, nothing less. And it was expected. > > Nope not at all. Only you seem to believe that. Look up the definition and try to understand it. > >Bee it would appear that the PRO > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I'm not obsessed But you constantly raise it and I do not. I wonder why that is? but it would appear you like playing war games > online in this newsgroup. Mind control games You cannot be the subject of a mind control game. You have nothing to control. -- calling people > stupid, and moron, and bullying them. Just like the game of war is > played- No, when I made war, I used real bullets. > > and the Quackwatch supporters were the > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Not only hardly--there you go again, opening your mouth and removing > all doubt. Only in your cranial vacuum. > What an incredible Springtime ... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/SandraProbert.htm > Response from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: > www.ilenarose.blogspot.com > www.ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com > www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/ On the pages cited above, serial scammer Ilena Rosenthal says you can make a tax-deductible donation to her fraudulent charity "Humantics". If you like, you can tell PayPal what you think of their abetting Rosenthal's criminal activity by sending an email to nonprofit@paypal.com The California Attorney-General and the IRS might take notice as well. |
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