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Unethical Behavior at the MHA

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Bee - 21 Apr 2008 19:27 GMT
Ethics is something I strongly believe in whether it be in business,
government, and personal lives.  There has some rather strange
activity over the course of the last few months that has been very
disturbing.  In an attempt to get web pages removed for web pages, and
create a less hostile environment in a newsgroup--it would appear that
there are some that post here that do not like a non negative
environment for discussion.  And it would appear that there are people
that post here that are willing to "make up stories," about people
they do not even know in an attempt to move them down to their level.
What saddened me immensely was seeing communication posted on this
very forum by a long time board poster making up stories, and then to
find out that those posts were coming from Stanford and San Diego
State University as of late.  Ironically from the same places that my
firewall was getting magna hits from.  I also know about the telephone
phreaking. I really love it when my telephone hangs up on me in the
middle of a conversion, and my computer shuts down because another
user has signed on.  Now, that is funny!!
   Another sad point is this constant upheaval by individuals making
up stories, that have absolutely no merit to them whatsoever about
people they do not even know. Then by doing some research finding out
that this has been going on for years in this forum, the same exact
crap over and over and over, when someone doesn't share the same
opinion as another person does, then they are drop kicked.  It would
appear based on the misinformation that posters are sharing about me
in this forum, and out of this forum, that now the same thing is
happening to me.  How sad is that.  But I am not the only one that
this has happened to, there seems to be a group  of individuals that
have gotten "dropped kicked," as well.
    I want to make it perfectly clear, that my personal life, my
friends, my employer, are not your business.  I do not put it out here
for a reason.  I respect your right to your privacies in your homes,
computers, and with your families.  Everyone should have the same set
of ethics and do the same.
   I work out of my home, so when you hack my computer, you are
hacking my employer as well.  When you phreak my telephone lines, you
are phreaking the lines of my employment as well.   How funny you must
think it is to attempt to ruin someone's reputation.  This forum means
nothing to me, but for some it would apparently be all that you have
and your life is so boring that you have to hack into others lives.
Aren't there places with 24 hour Bingo?   Calling someone's spouse and
their employer, and stalking them in their own homes?  Sheesh....get a
life!
   I want to make it clear, that I will no longer tolerate this kind
of behavior, and those individuals that have also had similar problems
on this forum should not tolerate it either.  That's why this board is
being monitored.
Mark Probert - 21 Apr 2008 23:01 GMT
>   Ethics is something I strongly believe in whether it be in business,
> government, and personal lives.  There has some rather strange
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> that post here that are willing to "make up stories," about people
> they do not even know in an attempt to move them down to their level.

Could you provide some examples?

> What saddened me immensely was seeing communication posted on this
> very forum by a long time board poster making up stories, and then to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> middle of a conversion, and my computer shuts down because another
> user has signed on.  Now, that is funny!!

Nope.

>     Another sad point is this constant upheaval by individuals making
> up stories, that have absolutely no merit to them whatsoever about
> people they do not even know. Then by doing some research finding out
> that this has been going on for years in this forum, the same exact
> crap over and over and over, when someone doesn't share the same
> opinion as another person does, then they are drop kicked.  

Excellent observation.

It would
> appear based on the misinformation that posters are sharing about me
> in this forum, and out of this forum, that now the same thing is
> happening to me.  

Rejoice in your efforts for peace. Sometimes, peacemakers get dumped
on. However, peacemakers eventually win. I hope.

How sad is that.  But I am not the only one that
> this has happened to, there seems to be a group  of individuals that
> have gotten "dropped kicked," as well.

True.

>      I want to make it perfectly clear, that my personal life, my
> friends, my employer, are not your business.  

Add your family to that list. That seems to be some people's favorite
target.

I do not put it out here
> for a reason.  I respect your right to your privacies in your homes,
> computers, and with your families.  Everyone should have the same set
> of ethics and do the same.

Agreed.

>     I work out of my home, so when you hack my computer, you are
> hacking my employer as well.  When you phreak my telephone lines, you
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> their employer, and stalking them in their own homes?  Sheesh....get a
> life!

Agreed.

>     I want to make it clear, that I will no longer tolerate this kind
> of behavior, and those individuals that have also had similar problems
> on this forum should not tolerate it either.  That's why this board is
> being monitored.

By whom?
Bee - 21 Apr 2008 23:42 GMT
> By whom?

People are reading this newsgroup from all sorts of views.  That's all
I am going to say and
that's all that needs to be said.

As far as the individuals that are doing unethical conduct, they know
who they are, and
and there is no need to name names.

It will all come out in the wash sooner or later.
Jan Drew - 22 Apr 2008 00:19 GMT
> And it would appear that there are people
> that post here that are willing to "make up stories," about people
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> find out that those posts were coming from Stanford and San Diego
> State University as of late.

That indeed is a made up story by you, Debbee Adams.

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And again Debbee Adams refuses to answer my question.

I asked you On Apr 14, 8:18 pm, ... Do you really want me to prove
it, Debbee? If your computer is hijacked--how can you still be posting?
Bee - 22 Apr 2008 01:40 GMT
> > that post here that are willing to "make up stories," about people
> > they do not even know in an attempt to move them down to their level.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> That indeed is a made up story by you, Debbee Adams.

Again, my name is not Debbee Adams.

Jan Drew---again, I ask you, how is life at San Diego State
University???   Enjoying campus life????

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Jan Drew - 22 Apr 2008 03:37 GMT
On Apr 21, 4:19 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> > that post here that are willing to "make up stories," about people
> > they do not even know in an attempt to move them down to their level.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> That indeed is a made up story by you, Debbee Adams.

Again, my name is not Debbee Adams.

===

This is too funny.

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Date: 15 Oct 2002 05:06:59 GMT
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<< I HAVE been censored.

According to the whims of another MHA poster.

Censorship along arbitrary and personal lines is alive and well, in MHA
2002. >>

You have NOT been censored.  Does your ISP have a terms of service?  Perhaps
you violated the terms of service.
Stop playing victim.

Jan Drew---again, I ask you, how is life at San Diego State
University???   Enjoying campus life????

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Bee - 22 Apr 2008 15:51 GMT
> ===
>
> This is too funny.

Jan Drew or whomever you are:

I am not Debbee1023@aol.com.
nor am I "Debbee Adams."
You have absolutely zero way to prove that anyone is who they
claim they are here on this forum or any other forum.
You would have to be standing behind someone as they type, and
in their own home or office and with picture id to prove 100% that
people are who they say they are.
And you do not know 100% if who they say they are is who they say
they are.

Do prove anyone on this forum is who they claim they are.
Then maybe I will answer your question.

You cannot prove it, so I will not answer your question.

Here is the MHA Charter.

CHARTER
-------

misc.health.alternative is a newsgroup for general non-technical
discussion (pro *and* con) of health care and therapies which are
alternative, complementary, or not commonly accepted by Western
scientific medicine.

Appropriate topics include (but are not limited to): acupuncture,
Alexander technique, alternative cancer therapies, aromatherapy,
ayurveda, chiropractic, color therapy, healing, herbalism, holistic
dentistry, holistic medicine, homeopathy, hypnosis, iridology,
macrobiotics, meditation, megavitamin therapy, midwifery, naturopathy,
natural vision improvement (Bates method, etc.), osteopathy,
radiesthesia, reflexology, shiatsu and do-in, traditional medicine
(Arab, Chinese, Native American, etc.), and yoga.

Flames, name-calling, and abusive behavior in general (from either
side) are not welcome, but constructive criticisms and arguments are
encouraged, with the caveat that misc.health.alternative is to be a
generally non-technical consumer level discussion group.

May happiness and health be with you!
--
http://www.faqs.org/ftp/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/misc/misc.health.alternative
Jan Drew - 23 Apr 2008 03:16 GMT
On Apr 21, 7:37 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> ===
>
> This is too funny.

Jan Drew or whomever you are:

I am not Debbee1023@aol.com.
nor am I "Debbee Adams."

--

Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Does Louie Louie ring a bell?

You have absolutely zero way to prove that anyone is who they
claim they are here on this forum or any other forum.
You would have to be standing behind someone as they type, and
in their own home or office and with picture id to prove 100% that
people are who they say they are.
And you do not know 100% if who they say they are is who they say
they are.

Do prove anyone on this forum is who they claim they are.
Then maybe I will answer your question.

OK.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/msg/b21f38ba4a91424d

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/msg/6198ed8836cf4ce3

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/c65d91fc53cc769f

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>>>Cue jan to call me a liar, start another thread about me, and mention
Rich, Rich, Peter and/or Peter.<<<<<

I have been absent for awhile, and I see that the same OLD same OLD
boring people are posting the same old drivel....

Maybe your mental health would improve if you got your amalgams out,
Probert....

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Sued over the internet

http://www.reunion.com/102757495

You cannot prove it, so I will not answer your question.

What happened to..Then maybe I will answer your question.?

Here is the MHA Charter.

CHARTER
-------

misc.health.alternative is a newsgroup for general non-technical
discussion (pro *and* con) of health care and therapies which are
alternative, complementary, or not commonly accepted by Western
scientific medicine.

Appropriate topics include (but are not limited to): acupuncture,
Alexander technique, alternative cancer therapies, aromatherapy,
ayurveda, chiropractic, color therapy, healing, herbalism, holistic
dentistry, holistic medicine, homeopathy, hypnosis, iridology,
macrobiotics, meditation, megavitamin therapy, midwifery, naturopathy,
natural vision improvement (Bates method, etc.), osteopathy,
radiesthesia, reflexology, shiatsu and do-in, traditional medicine
(Arab, Chinese, Native American, etc.), and yoga.

Flames, name-calling, and abusive behavior in general (from either
side) are not welcome, but constructive criticisms and arguments are
encouraged, with the caveat that misc.health.alternative is to be a
generally non-technical consumer level discussion group.

May happiness and health be with you!
--
http://www.faqs.org/ftp/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/misc/misc.health.alternative
Bee - 23 Apr 2008 03:31 GMT
> nor am I "Debbee Adams."
>
> --
>
> Liar, liar, pants on fire.
> Does Louie Louie ring a bell?

Again, what proof do you have, whomever you are--who anyone is
here.  You don't.  You do not have any proof that anyone is really
anyone here.

And my name is not "Debbee Adams."

You absolutely positively cannot positively ID me, or anyone
else that posts on this forum or any other forum, can you?
No you cannot.

I think it would be in your better interest if you found a new
hobby.
Jan Drew - 23 Apr 2008 05:00 GMT
On Apr 22, 7:16 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> nor am I "Debbee Adams."

OOps.............

I am not Debbee1023@aol.com.

Liar, liar, pants on fire.

nor am I "Debbee Adams."

http://www.reunion.com/102757495

Debbie Adams.

Does Louie Louie ring a bell??

> --
>
> Liar, liar, pants on fire.
> Does Louie Louie ring a bell?

Again, what proof do you have, whomever you are--who anyone is
here.  You don't.  You do not have any proof that anyone is really
anyone here.

Does Louie Louie ring a bell?

Hello.

And my name is not "Debbee Adams."

You absolutely positively cannot positively ID me, or anyone
else that posts on this forum or any other forum, can you?
No you cannot.

I think it would be in your better interest if you found a new
hobby.
--

I think you should have stopped while you were behind.
Carry on, Debbie Adams, if you wish to keep making a
complete fool of yourself.
Bee - 23 Apr 2008 06:29 GMT
Since it would appear that what your intent has been with me for
the past week or so has merely been to harass me in one way or
another, I am going to spell out a few things.  Read well, and if you
need clarification, please ask.

1.  You got mad at me and sent emails that had no depth whatsoever
to them.  You falsely accused me of joining "the gang."   I was also
falsely accused of potentially going to California for the sole
purpose
of harassing Ilena at her real estate office.   Why would you even
dream
up such information?  That kind of information does not come from a
rationale human being.   Would you like me to put those emails up on
this newsgroup?   Case in point.
2.  You would appear to have gotten mad at me for attempting peace
talks
and for starting them in the first place.  Everything about those
peace talks
was out here in the open, or to the parties that it concerned.  It had
nothing
to do with Jan Drew.    Everything I got with regard to the peace
negotiations
from any of the parties, all of the parties had the same information.
Again,
it did not concern you.
3.  When I was attempting peace here -- it was for the sole reason of
attempting
to get back to the subject matter of alternative healthcare.   But it
would appear
that during that time, all you wanted to continue to do was chase
Thorson around
and around the mulberry bush with the Jan Drew is a Jew Hater thread.
You had
zero intent to try to stop with the rest of the individuals that were
working together
to try to work things out.
4.  I am not a member of Reunion.Com.  Any information on Reunion.Com
was placed
by someone else.
5.  This is a newsgroup for alternative health, not a battleground for
lawsuits, or people
deciding who can be friends with who, and who cannot be friends with
who.  Who people
communicate with or do not communicate do not have to go through
anyone's approval
to find out if it is okay with them or not.
6.  There are "no gangs" here.
7.  I do not know if this is your intent or not, but your actions do
not say a whole lot for
the support of alternative health.
8.  Do not post about me again.  And I'll do the same for you.
Jan Drew - 24 Apr 2008 03:09 GMT
On Apr 22, 9:00 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>> nor am I "Debbee Adams."
>
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> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:GZwPj.83$506.64@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...

Since it would appear that what your intent has been with me for
the past week or so has merely been to harass me in one way or
another, I am going to spell out a few things.  Read well, and if you
need clarification, please ask.

1.  You got mad at me and sent emails that had no depth whatsoever
to them.  You falsely accused me of joining "the gang."   I was also
falsely accused of potentially going to California for the sole
purpose
of harassing Ilena at her real estate office.   Why would you even
dream
up such information?  That kind of information does not come from a
rationale human being.   Would you like me to put those emails up on
this newsgroup?

Yes, please do and include ALL of yours, doing your investigations.
Neither did I send emails, until AFTER you flooded my  email with
many, many, many emails.

 Case in point.
2.  You would appear to have gotten mad at me for attempting peace
talks
and for starting them in the first place.  Everything about those
peace talks
was out here in the open, or to the parties that it concerned.

Blatant lie.

*I want to make it perfectly clear --- that I did all of my negotiating
with Coleah
right out here.*

It is noted you added * or to the parties that it concerned.*

It had nothing to do with Jan Drew.    Everything I got with regard to the
peace
negotiations
from any of the parties, all of the parties had the same information.
Again,
it did not concern you.

Anything posted here is my business, just as it is everyones here.

3.  When I was attempting peace here -- it was for the sole reason of
attempting
to get back to the subject matter of alternative healthcare.   But it
would appear
that during that time, all you wanted to continue to do was chase
Thorson around
and around the mulberry bush with the Jan Drew is a Jew Hater thread.

Um, no, he chased me with his continued lies.

You had
zero intent to try to stop with the rest of the individuals that were
working together
to try to work things out.

I saw your many posts along with others, I also saw you fall flat on your
face.
And, the lies told.

4.  I am not a member of Reunion.Com.  Any information on Reunion.Com
was placed
by someone else.

lol.

5.  This is a newsgroup for alternative health, not a battleground for
lawsuits,

Speaking of lawsuits:

Sued over the interent.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/browse_thread/thread/b82ad
0da727e7251/b21f38ba4a91424d?lnk=st&q=Debbee1023%40aol.com+Mark+Lindsey#b21f38ba
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.gossip.celebrities/msg/df3cabaf90cf8e8a

1999

Last summer, (July 1998) myself and a friend were sued together by Deborah
and
Mark Lindsay ( he left Paul Revere and the Raiders as the lead singer in
January, 1975) for stating our opinions about things, namely some liner
notes,
and what Mark had stated in his own words, on liner notes, and for stating
our
opinion about the lawsuit that he has against Paul Revere that we knew
nothing
about, until we found a site on the internet that was discussing this. And
for
some stuff that is true, <that can be proven with other fan friends that are
witnesses>. And for stating our opinions about some CDs that were
remastered.
And some things we had remembered as long time fans.  His attorneys
originally
called us on July 30, 1998, and said they wanted to settle this out of
court,
for no monetary value, and a "proposal" would be forthcoming, delay tactic
after delay tactic (in my humble opinion), and now they are going to take it
to
trial in November, 1999.  His attorneys had told us that Mark Lindsay was
considered a "public figure" and we couldn't write about him in this manner.

I'm curious to find out if any other celebrities have sued people in these
newsgroups for stuff that has been written here about them in the celebrity
gossip newsgroups, that they didn't like.  And how these court cases were
decided.  I'm curious to find out if people's first amendment rights were
violated in these cases.

Does anyone have any other cases that might help my attorney, or my friend
that
cannot afford an attorney so that she can help herself? Or does anyone know
of
an attorney in Southern California that might like to "take this on for
fun?"
She is unable to work.

Thanks in advance.

Debbee

or people
deciding who can be friends with who, and who cannot be friends with
who.  Who people
communicate with or do not communicate do not have to go through
anyone's approval
to find out if it is okay with them or not.

That's up to them, not me.

6.  There are "no gangs" here.

Oh, you haven't used the word gang?

7.  I do not know if this is your intent or not, but your actions do
not say a whole lot for
the support of alternative health.

8.  Do not post about me again.  And I'll do the same for you.

You would like that wouldn't you?

http://www.louielouie.net/blog/?p=312
Bee - 24 Apr 2008 06:52 GMT
I am not Debbee Adams.
Neither I, nor Debbee Adams has spammed anyone's email account.
After reading this latest post by this person the information is
incorrect.
Anyone receiving any emails from this account please forward them back
in their
original format to Butterflies2222@gmail.com so that it can be
determined by legal authority
who is responsible for this attack.

We are all aware that the telephone line used to access this computer
were compromised on
October 6, 2007.  Qwest Communications is aware of the problem.
Jan Drew - 25 Apr 2008 03:12 GMT
> I am not Debbee Adams.
> Neither I, nor Debbee Adams

So--you know her?

has spammed anyone's email account.

Spammed?  Who said anything about spammed?

FACT:

You flooded my email with many, many, many, many emails.
SNIFFFTHIS@gmail.com

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From: Coleah <col...@pacifier.com>
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:21:48 -0700
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:21 am
Subject: Re: Flacks, Lobbyists, Paid Shills, etc

On Nov 1, 12:35 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Nov 1, 5:35 am, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:

> > BTW - no one needs to know your chicken-sh.t name to know 'who you
> > are'.  Chortle, chortle, chortle !!!

> What did the world ever do to you that you believe you have the right
> to act out against individuals whose
> opinions you do not necessarily share?

What did the world ever do to you, that you believe
YOU have the right to post what other people
'believe' ???  I do believe "SNIFFFThis" has a
God complex and a control issue.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 1, 9:21 pm, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
>>> What did the world ever do to you, that you believe
>> YOU have the right to post what other people
>> 'believe' ???  I do believe "SNIFFFThis" has a
>> God complex and a control issue.

>You have got it backwards.  The persons that have
>the control issue are the individuals that are connected with the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>checks.  Those are the ones whose opinions I have seen you support day
>in an day out.

>Good luck to you.  My work is done here.

>Goodbye to all of you.

Is that a promise?

Goodbye, SNIFFButt. You will not be missed.

Until next time ...

> After reading this latest post by this person the information is
> incorrect.

DEBBEE1023@aol.com

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From: debbee1...@aol.com (DEBBEE1023)
Subject: Re: Paul Revere  & Raiders
Date: 1998/05/23
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Yes, Paul Revere and the Raiders put on an excellent show, Paul Revere is
hilarious (one never knows what kind of jokes will roll out of his
mind/mouth).
Some people do not understand his humor, but for  those of us that are
accepting of someone just wanting to make people laugh for an hour or so, to
take their mind off their troubles, and enjoy a musical trip back through
the
60's and 70's understand it. :)  The show takes you back to a time when you
were 16 or 17, or 24 and 25, with memories, and music from those eras, and
although Mark Lindsay was the lead singer on those records from your youth
it
does not make one bit of difference if another lead singer is covering those
tunes.  No one is going to die, right? :)  Paul Revere and the Raiders'
biggest
selling hits, Kicks, Hungry, Indian Reservation, Louie, Louie, were all
penned
by composers not in the group, not the lead singer.   Mark Lindsay was not
merely  a solo artist with a back-up band.  Paul Revere and the Raiders were
an
entire team of talented professionals.  Maybe Mark Lindsay was the person
that
made your heart go pitter patter in the 60's, and you are still addicted to
that person that you fell in love with in the 60's, and that's okay too.
But
it is all about choices. Mark Lindsay tours with his Almighty Band, doing
what
he wants to do, has a CD out called Video Dreams (which you can purchase off
his web site)http://MarkLindsay.com  and Paul Revere and the Raiders (Carl
Driggs, lead singer, Omar Martinez, drums, vocals; Doug Heath, lead guitar,
Ron
Foos, bass guitar, Danny Krause, keyboards, and ofcourse Paul Revere, (who
celebrated his 60th birthday this year, and has been in the business for 40
years this year).  And this year is his "Refuse to Go Away Tour"....and he
states that he going to play forever.  That's fortitude!  :)  And more power
to
him!  :)  Paul Revere and the Raiders have a website, with tour dates,  it
is
http://www.paulrevereraiders.com

Debbee

"Don't mind me I'm still lost in the 60's."

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Every teenager in the 60's had them, records your parents either wanted to
destroy, or actually destroyed because they thought the lyrics were either
too
nasty, they didn't like the long hairs playing music, or they said they
couldn't figure out if the artist was male or female.

These were on my parental hit list....did any others have the same parents I
did? :)

1.  Phil Ochs - Outside a Small Circle of Friends
2.  Kingsmen, PR&R, Wailers - Louie Louie
3.  The Fugs - (the LP that had "BoobsAlot" on it).
4.  The Pretty Things (all albums mysteriously disappeared one evening).
5.  Bob Dylan (these too flew into the wind).

Anyone have a parent who didn't understand YOUR music?  I'd still be
watching
Lawrence Welk to this day, if my parents had had their way....to them,
Lawrence
Welk and his hit paraders played and sang real music....obviously, I am glad
I
didn't listen to them....our generation had some real killer music.

Debbee

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From: beete...@aol.com (BeeTerri)
Date: 1998/05/31
Subject: Re: Paul Revere & Raiders

I believe he was a studio musician on some of their albums (or at least one)
back in the 60's, but he was never employed as a "Raider".  In fact, as the
story goes, much of the musical backing was done by session musicians and
not
the members of the group per se.

Did you all know that Leon Russell( yes, THE same Leon Russell)  played
piano
while Paul Revere was doing his civil duty, and was a "Raider" for less than
two weeks?

Debbee & Terri

"Mess with best, die like the rest"

> Anyone receiving any emails from this account please forward them back
> in their
> original format to Butterflies2222@gmail.com so that it can be
> determined by legal authority
> who is responsible for this attack.

What attack?

ll aware that the telephone line used to access this computer
> were compromised on
> October 6, 2007.  Qwest Communications is aware of the problem.

1999, your computer was  hjacked and telephone lines tapped?

Newsgroups: alt.gossip.celebrities
From: debbee1...@aol.com (DEBBEE1023)
Date: 1999/05/30
Subject: Re: Sued Over the internet.

> "Bee"  (aka) Debbee/Debbie A Adams wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 196 lines]
>
> You would like that wouldn't you?

http://www.louielouie.net/blog/?p=312
Annie - 25 Apr 2008 03:55 GMT
> So--you know her?

Law enforcement knows her.  Government employees know her.
All sorts of people know her.

Butterflies2222@gmail.com
has been totally compromised.
Emails to and from that account
and even the password were changed without knowledge.
If you send emails there, the gremlins are sending them out
without permission.  Only the gremlins have the new password,
google has been advised of this as well.

SNIFFFthis@gmail.com is a work address.  No one that uses this email
from this
account has spammed anyone's email.  Google has knowledge of this as
well.
Law enforcement has knowledge of this as well.  Knowledge that this
account
has been compromised as well is noted.

The location of the shot gun microphone and the position of it, and
photos have
been taken.  Knowledge of the party responsible for the compromising
of the DSL line
is also known.

Should one assume that your continued harassment is part of this
unethical
conduct as well?

Nice group of unethical people that post here.  Are they your
friends?  You fit in
well.
Jan Drew - 25 Apr 2008 06:44 GMT
On Apr 24, 7:12 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:x6bQj.251$1b7.87@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...

>> I am not Debbee Adams.
>> Neither I, nor Debbee Adams
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Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 26 Apr 2008 03:56 GMT
Miss Know it All:

1.  SNIfffthis is a SHARED email account.  It is a WORK account.  I am
not the only one that accesses the account.  SNifff stands for Spay
Neuter Its For Furry Friends.
2.  My computer was hacked into, passwords were changed, and I cannot
even access Butterflies2222 anymore. It's okay though because Google
is well aware of the problem.  And I rarely used that for email.
Anything I have to say, I say it here.
3.  Individuals without nothing better to do hacked my wireless
computer connection.
4.  They left me scripts---scripts were running, and I didn't even
know I had any scripts.
5.  Today I found the hackers codes, and the child pornography on my
computer, some of which is still there, but
not before law enforcement got a good look at it.  Maybe some of the
individuals here will recognize a couple of the
hacker's codes...'Drambuie," and 'Darwin."  Recently one of the
posters mentioned "Darwin."
6.  That's not all, Smarty Parts, law enforcement was very interested
why you would make the comment that you did (they have the post) about
spyware, and which you state which version you are using.  If this is
not true, you need to make a retraction now, and I'll fax it over on
Monday.
7.  Do you know about a MAC?  Not hardly.  Do you know what a shotgun
mircrophone does?  I bet not.  How would you like child pornography in
your computer?
8.  Annie is not me.  Yet you make the claim it is.  That is false,
Jan.  This would yet another one of your outright lies.
9.  This forum is being monitored.
10.  I've asked you to stop your harassment of me, and yet you
continue.   Law enforcement mentioned it might be because if someone
does something you do not approve of, then you make up stories in an
effort to ruin their reputation.
You cannot ruin my reputation.  I lost my virginity at 14 and haven't
looked back.
Jan Drew - 26 Apr 2008 23:54 GMT
On Apr 24, 10:44 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

10:44 pm?

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/dbba28cf45bb2c40

> "Annie" (aka) Debbie (aka) Debbee (aka) msSmith2 <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com>
> wrote in
> messagenews:958bd942-5e5b-4218-b489-2aa04f1f8ded@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

>Miss Know it All:

Coming from a proclaimed peace maker.
Butterflies1111@gmail.com - 26 Apr 2008 12:05 GMT
------------------------- -----Get Help, Debbie/Debbee A Adams

 No one with a rational mind would cross post to a breast implant
group and a misc.health.alternative newsgroup with the amount of
spam   you would appear to be doing.  You are way off topic for both
newsgroups.

Get some professional help, it would appear that you need it.
Peter Bowditch - 22 Apr 2008 10:38 GMT
>Jan Drew---again, I ask you, how is life at San Diego State
>University???   Enjoying campus life????

Jan at a university? Now I know you're bonkers.

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