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A Bad Week for Corporate Spies
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Ilena Rose - 16 Apr 2008 17:36 GMT Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal! http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl Jeffcoat:
EXCERPT: The public relations industry has developed a lucrative side business scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of citizen activists, using paid spies who are often recruited from government, military or private security backgrounds." (more here) http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Stephen-Barrett www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm Navy background, ACSH.org advisor, a corporate funded PR group Calls himself "The Media." Sue happy, has a history of losing SLAPP and SLAPP style lawsuits to activists (fluoride, breast implant, vaccination awareness activists all) while waging enormous smear campaign assaults with others on this list. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Mark-Probert www.BreastImplantawareness.org/PropagandistProbert.html Army background ... disbarred attorney ... loves disguises ... viscious attacks to same targets as Barrett / Quackwatch. Promotes vaccination industry propaganda.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Langer www.BreastImplantawareness.org/LangerVsIlena.htm Government & Corporations are his business ... one of the most prolific of the Pro-Neo Con propagandists spreading their agenda that lead to the disaster of invading and occupying Iraq. Organized industry friendly 'support group leaders' in silicone cause & worked with them to walk both sides of the aisle: friendly & non critical of industry AND appear to 'support' to women harmed by implants.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Coleah.htm Viet Nam was her glory days ... worked closely with Langer doing corporate / government PR to lead to War ... works closely with silicone manufacturer, Patrick O'leary, and the Snake-oil Team. VA & IRS background. Loves stealth. Corporate apologist.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Myrl.html Not military like the above team ... but loves disguises and able to talk out of both sides of her mouth. Fully supports all listed above. Uses tactics of blaming others for doing what she is doing.
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Quackwatch 'Guerrilla' Tactics
Quoth Stephen J. Barrett, writing in AMA News on August 25, 1975, describing the Lehigh Valley Committee Against Health Fraud:
"By working "undercover" using assumed names and box numbers, we've gotten all sorts of information and publications other groups, like the medical societies, haven't been able to lay their hands on.
...Really, we're a bunch of guerrillas - we're not a large group, there are about 40 members, but we're the only such group in the country."
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More on this story here:
http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
Citizen Jimserac - 16 Apr 2008 19:17 GMT > Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!http://ilenarose.blogspot.com > [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208 Thank you for exposing these people.
Public reaction against the "do anything you want" attitude of the Bush administration towards its corporatista friends has now already begun to rise in anger, not only at the outrageous corporate salaries at the top and the exclusion of minority shareholder interests at meetings, but also at the domineering attitudes of the corporatista which sees itself as beyond reproach, beyond criticism, beyond accountability.
That such is NOT the case will be made clear after the November elections when the FULL WRATH of the American people is unleashed against these kinds of notions.
Again, many thanks for your informative links and postings.
Citizen Jimserac
Coleah - 16 Apr 2008 19:48 GMT > > Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!http://ilenarose.blogspot.com > [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > > - Show quoted text - You, "Citizen Jimserac" are very easily lead around by the nose if you believe half of Ilena Rosenthal's (winky, winky) opinions as being gospel 'fact'.
Apparently your agenda here has something to do with elections and politics??? Frankly that has nothing to do me, nor do I have a vested interest in it. If you suck into Ilena Rosenthal's painting of people that easily, your family may want to look into a conservator because of your gross naivity condition.
Have a perfectly lovely day and may you be spared from a space alien invasion.
Citizen Jimserac - 17 Apr 2008 13:41 GMT > On Apr 16, 1:17 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > Have a perfectly lovely day and may you be spared from a space alien > invasion. Look at the headlines in yesterday's USA Today and widely reported on the web and in the news media. The Journal of the American Medical Association is asking that researchers disclose their financial renumeration when publishing research. It would seem that in the testing of Vioxx, a recalled drug which caused enormous harm, various deleterious effects revealed in the tests were discounted, suppressed or otherwise ignored while positive results were emphasized. IN addition, JAMA suggest that pharmaceutical companies stop financing the drug "education" courses required to be taken by some physicians to maintain their certification.
I'd say news like that indicates that it is the pharmaceutical and other health industries that seem to be doing the ... winky winky.
Citizen Jimserac
Coleah - 17 Apr 2008 19:57 GMT > > On Apr 16, 1:17 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 114 lines] > > - Show quoted text - What is your job in the anti-health industry?
Mark Probert - 02 May 2008 14:04 GMT > What is your job in the anti-health industry? Stolen. I love that line.
V-for-Vendicar - 18 Apr 2008 03:56 GMT > Look at the headlines in yesterday's USA Today and widely reported > on the web and in the news media. The Journal of the American Medical [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > deleterious effects revealed in the tests were discounted, suppressed > or otherwise ignored while positive results were emphasized. What you should realize is that through the 80's and 90's, the FDA was pressured by NeoKKKonservativs to reduce the amount and quality of testing of new drugs. The argument was that the slow rate of testing was holding back chemi-medical progress.
So the FDA was ordered by RepubliKKKans when the came into power to do what the NeoKKKonservatives demanded.
And as a result, there are a zillion new knock off drugs on the market that are no better - or worse than the tried and true medications, and these and other new medications get through the (now lax) FDA screening process without the side effects being properly identified and examined.
Every VIOXX DEATH is the result of KKKonservative Politics.
Jan Drew - 18 Apr 2008 05:53 GMT >> Look at the headlines in yesterday's USA Today and widely reported >> on the web and in the news media. The Journal of the American Medical [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Every VIOXX DEATH is the result of KKKonservative Politics. http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/11/23/vioxx_shows_fda_unable_to_protec t_public_from_deadly_medical_drugs.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6192603/
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/vioxx_estimates.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/15/AR2008041502086. html?hpid=sec-health
Mark Probert - 02 May 2008 14:07 GMT On Apr 18, 2:56 am, "V-for-Vendicar" <Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
> > Look at the headlines in yesterday's USA Today and widely reported > > on the web and in the news media. The Journal of the American Medical [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Every VIOXX DEATH is the result of KKKonservative Politics. while your keyboard needs a new "K" key, your point is well taken. The 1980's were the begining of the stripping of regulatory power of the FDA. However, you should also note that some of this stripping was done at the behest of the so-called "Health Freedom Movement".
They caused it, now they whine about it.
Ilena Rose - 17 Apr 2008 21:41 GMT Now here is a Quackwatch Ministry of Truth Style "Winky Winky", if I ever heard one!
Coleah Penley Ayers queries:
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm
"What is your job in the anti-health industry? "
Thanks Coleah ... it's as if you are straight out of the "Ministry of Truth" from 1984!
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www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm
(see their list below, on the internet from 2000-2007, then totally removed.)
Since Barrett, Polevoy, and Grell SLAPP sued me in early 2001, and ultimately lost to me in the Superior Court, the Appeals Court, and the Supreme Court of California ...
Various Snake-oil Posse Members have taken their turn "at the bat" harassing me ... this week it's apparently Andrew Kingoff in the spot light.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Kingoff
Since they still have a $311K outstanding bill for attorneys fees, and have had around $170,000 paid out so far, they attacks are even viler.
People on the list that I had never heard of nor had any communiation with whatsoever, have made careers out of trying to harm my reputation and rewrite history to make the 3 losing plaintiffs the "victims" ... and I the evildoer.
The courts all said otherwise.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/BarrettVsRosenthal.htm
Head of the Healthfrauds, Robert S Baratz, send out a massive emailing falsely claiming that Barrett had lost to me on a 'technicality.'
This is blatantly false ... (as is much of the disinformation he manufacturers and markets) ... and repeated on Wiki, Usenet and various Blogs by several of the named members below.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWAtch.htm#Baratz
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Robert-Baratz
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Peter-Bowditch
I just found some 'correspondence' from a Snake-oil Member named John Stone (describes his profession as 'oppositon') sending my attorneys and others working on my case, hate letters about me and love letters about the plaintiffs ... never mentioning his relationship with them.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#John-Stone
The only way I ever had any connection with this Snake-oil Posse Member, was reading his losing plaintiff propaganda and his name with Barrett's on their list.
I am in celebration of life mode right now ... as the minutes are ticking toward my 60th birthday.
If Kingoff continues his blatant attacks, which include highjacking threads of mine and changing the names to harassing titles against me ... I will be reposting this as a reminder. He also has a penchant for taking his words which I claim are false, and fiddling with the lines and lying to readers that I was the author of his lies.
Educated idiots. Pure "Ministry of Truth" out of 1984.
Remember when Stephen Barrett bragged that he was "the media."
http://www.orwelltoday.com/truth.shtml Exactly.
The Ministsry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.
The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.
If any of you wish to see the tactics used by Barrett and Team ... watch Zeitgeist.
With love from Ilena
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/
http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com Health Lover
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/snake-oil.htm There are several people who have joined this team's internet interactions who are not listed ... two of them using aliases have recently had their masks removed. One quit Wikipedia immediately ...
Snake-oil Team
Peter Bowditch Woofie Pearson Robert Baratz Mattias Haglund Bernard Morey Mark Lowry Christopher Brown Andrew Langer Mark Thorson Willa Nidiffer David Wright Rich Andrews Rosalind Dalefield David Green TD Laing Cindy Province Paul Lee John Stone Janice Lyons James Laidler Mark Probert Rich Shewmaker David Gorski Andrew Kingoff Honorary Members These are people who aren't in the list above but who have been named in Nuremberg 2001, the court case against members of "one of the most evil, and vicious, organizations ever to stalk Planet Earth's Families" Stephen Barrett Judith Barrett Terry Polevoy Christopher Grell Rebecca Long Rebekah Johnson Aron Primack Peter W. Pappas Joseph Pizzorno William T. Jarvis Tim Gorski Bill Ross Monica Pignotti Michael McNeil Paul Hilling Paul Smith Esther Figueroa J
PeterB - 18 Apr 2008 04:09 GMT > Now here is a Quackwatch Ministry of Truth Style "Winky Winky", if I > ever heard one! [quoted text clipped - 152 lines] > Esther Figueroa > J Hi Ilena,
Do you know if Rosalind is still working the ng?
Mark Probert - 02 May 2008 14:05 GMT > Esther Figueroa Ms. Figeuora was murdered by the "treatments" of Hulda Clark.
Jan Drew - 02 May 2008 22:55 GMT On Apr 17, 4:41 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:
> Esther Figueroa Off-topic.
Who wrote that, Mark S Probert?
Oliver - 21 Apr 2008 15:30 GMT > Response from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: > www.ilenarose.blogspot.com
> www.ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com
> www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/ On the pages cited above, recidivist scammer Ilena Rosenthal says you can make a tax-deductible donation to her fraudulent charity "Humantics". If you like, you can tell PayPal what you think of their abetting Rosenthal's criminal activity by going to this page and clicking on "Site Feedback" at the bottom and filling in the Comments section.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_home-general&nav=0
The California Attorney-General and the IRS might take notice as well.
PeterB - 23 Apr 2008 00:14 GMT > > Response from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal: > >www.ilenarose.blogspot.com [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > The California Attorney-General and the IRS might take notice as well. Thanks, Ollie, I took the info and advised PayPal that a group of smear goons are trying to settle a score with health activist Rosenthal and should be steadfastly ignored. Say hello to your sponsors and don't forget to write from prison some day.
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