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A Bad Week for Corporate Spies

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Ilena Rose - 16 Apr 2008 17:36 GMT
Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com

Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
Jeffcoat:

EXCERPT:
The public relations industry has developed a lucrative side business
scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of citizen activists, using paid
spies who are often recruited from government, military or private
security backgrounds."
(more here) http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208 

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Stephen-Barrett
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm
Navy background, ACSH.org advisor, a corporate funded PR group
Calls himself "The Media." Sue happy, has a history of losing SLAPP
and SLAPP style lawsuits to activists (fluoride, breast implant,
vaccination awareness activists all) while waging enormous smear
campaign assaults with others on this list.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Mark-Probert
www.BreastImplantawareness.org/PropagandistProbert.html
Army background ... disbarred attorney ... loves disguises ...
viscious attacks to same targets as Barrett / Quackwatch. Promotes
vaccination industry propaganda.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Langer
www.BreastImplantawareness.org/LangerVsIlena.htm
Government & Corporations are his business ... one of the most
prolific of the Pro-Neo Con propagandists spreading their agenda that
lead to the disaster of invading and occupying Iraq. Organized
industry friendly 'support group leaders' in silicone cause & worked
with them to walk both sides of the aisle: friendly & non critical of
industry AND appear to  'support' to women harmed by implants.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Coleah.htm
Viet Nam was her glory days ... worked closely with Langer doing
corporate / government PR to lead to War ... works closely with
silicone manufacturer, Patrick O'leary, and the Snake-oil Team.
VA & IRS background. Loves stealth. Corporate apologist.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Myrl.html
Not military like the above team ... but loves disguises and able to
talk out of both sides of her mouth. Fully supports all listed above.
Uses tactics of blaming others for doing what she is doing.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Quackwatch 'Guerrilla' Tactics

Quoth Stephen J. Barrett, writing in AMA News on August 25, 1975,
describing the Lehigh Valley Committee Against Health Fraud:

"By working "undercover" using assumed names and box numbers, we've
gotten all sorts of information and publications other groups, like
the medical societies, haven't been able to lay their hands on.

...Really, we're a bunch of guerrillas - we're not a large group,
there are about 40 members, but we're the only such group in the
country."

~~~~~~~~~

More on this story here:

http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
Citizen Jimserac - 16 Apr 2008 19:17 GMT
> Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
>
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>
> http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208

Thank you for exposing these people.

Public reaction against the "do anything you want" attitude
of the Bush administration towards its corporatista friends
has now already begun to rise in anger, not only at the outrageous
corporate salaries at the top and the exclusion of minority
shareholder interests at meetings, but also at the domineering
attitudes of the corporatista which sees itself as beyond reproach,
beyond criticism, beyond accountability.

That such is NOT the case will be made clear after the November
elections when the FULL WRATH of the American people is unleashed
against these kinds of notions.

Again, many thanks for your informative links and postings.

Citizen Jimserac
Coleah - 16 Apr 2008 19:48 GMT
> > Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
>
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You, "Citizen Jimserac" are very easily lead around by the nose if you
believe half of Ilena Rosenthal's (winky, winky) opinions as being
gospel 'fact'.

Apparently your agenda here has something to do with elections and
politics???  Frankly that has nothing to do me, nor do I have a vested
interest in it.  If you suck into Ilena Rosenthal's painting of people
that easily, your family may want to look into a conservator because
of your gross naivity condition.

Have a perfectly lovely day and may you be spared from a space alien
invasion.
Citizen Jimserac - 17 Apr 2008 13:41 GMT
> On Apr 16, 1:17 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> Have a perfectly lovely day and may you be spared from a space alien
> invasion.

Look at the headlines in yesterday's USA Today and widely reported
on the web and in the news media.  The Journal of the American Medical
Association is asking that researchers disclose their financial
renumeration when publishing research.  It would seem that in the
testing of Vioxx, a recalled drug which caused enormous harm,  various
deleterious effects revealed in the tests were discounted, suppressed
or otherwise ignored while positive results were emphasized.  IN
addition, JAMA suggest that pharmaceutical companies stop financing
the drug "education" courses required to be taken by some physicians
to maintain their certification.

I'd say news like that indicates that it is the pharmaceutical and
other health industries that seem to be doing the ... winky winky.

Citizen Jimserac
Coleah - 17 Apr 2008 19:57 GMT
> > On Apr 16, 1:17 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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What is your job in the anti-health industry?
Mark Probert - 02 May 2008 14:04 GMT
> What is your job in the anti-health industry?

Stolen. I love that line.
V-for-Vendicar - 18 Apr 2008 03:56 GMT
> Look at the headlines in yesterday's USA Today and widely reported
> on the web and in the news media.  The Journal of the American Medical
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> deleterious effects revealed in the tests were discounted, suppressed
> or otherwise ignored while positive results were emphasized.

What you should realize is that through the 80's and 90's, the FDA was
pressured by NeoKKKonservativs to reduce the amount and quality of testing
of new drugs.  The argument was that the slow rate of testing was holding
back chemi-medical progress.

 So the FDA was ordered by RepubliKKKans when the came into power to do
what the NeoKKKonservatives demanded.

 And as a result, there are a zillion new knock off drugs on the market
that are no better - or worse than the tried and true medications, and these
and other new medications get through the (now lax) FDA screening process
without the side effects being properly identified and examined.

 Every VIOXX DEATH is the result of KKKonservative Politics.
Jan Drew - 18 Apr 2008 05:53 GMT
>> Look at the headlines in yesterday's USA Today and widely reported
>> on the web and in the news media.  The Journal of the American Medical
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>  Every VIOXX DEATH is the result of KKKonservative Politics.

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/11/23/vioxx_shows_fda_unable_to_protec
t_public_from_deadly_medical_drugs.htm


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6192603/

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/vioxx_estimates.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/15/AR2008041502086.
html?hpid=sec-health

Mark Probert - 02 May 2008 14:07 GMT
On Apr 18, 2:56 am, "V-for-Vendicar"
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:

> > Look at the headlines in yesterday's USA Today and widely reported
> > on the web and in the news media.  The Journal of the American Medical
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>   Every VIOXX DEATH is the result of KKKonservative Politics.

while your keyboard needs a new "K" key, your point is well taken. The
1980's were the begining of the stripping of regulatory power of the
FDA. However, you should also note that some of this stripping was
done at the behest of the so-called "Health Freedom Movement".

They caused it, now they whine about it.
Ilena Rose - 17 Apr 2008 21:41 GMT
Now here is a Quackwatch Ministry of Truth Style "Winky Winky", if I
ever heard one!

Coleah Penley Ayers queries:

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm

"What is your job in the anti-health industry? "

Thanks Coleah ... it's as if you are straight out of the "Ministry of
Truth" from 1984!

~~~~~~~~~~~~

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm

(see their list below, on the internet from 2000-2007, then totally
removed.)

Since Barrett, Polevoy, and Grell SLAPP sued me in early 2001, and
ultimately lost to me in the Superior Court, the Appeals Court, and
the Supreme Court of California ...

Various Snake-oil Posse Members have taken their turn "at the bat"
harassing me ... this week it's apparently Andrew Kingoff in the spot
light.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Kingoff

Since they still have a $311K outstanding bill for attorneys fees, and
have had around $170,000 paid out so far, they attacks are even viler.

People on the list that I had never heard of nor had any communiation
with whatsoever, have made careers out of trying to harm my reputation
and rewrite history to make the 3 losing plaintiffs the "victims" ...
and I the evildoer.

The courts all said otherwise.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/BarrettVsRosenthal.htm

Head of the Healthfrauds, Robert S Baratz, send out a massive emailing
falsely claiming that Barrett had lost to me on a 'technicality.'

This is blatantly false ... (as is much of the disinformation he
manufacturers and markets) ... and repeated on Wiki, Usenet and
various Blogs by several of the named members below.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWAtch.htm#Baratz

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Robert-Baratz

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Peter-Bowditch

I just found some 'correspondence' from a Snake-oil Member named John
Stone (describes his profession as 'oppositon') sending my attorneys
and others working on my case, hate letters about me and love letters
about the plaintiffs ... never mentioning his relationship with them.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#John-Stone

The only way I ever had any connection with this Snake-oil Posse
Member, was reading his losing plaintiff propaganda and his name with
Barrett's on their list.

I am in celebration of life mode right now ... as the minutes are
ticking toward my 60th birthday.

If Kingoff continues his blatant attacks, which include highjacking
threads of mine and changing the names to harassing titles against me
... I will be reposting this as a reminder. He also has a penchant for
taking his words which I claim are false, and fiddling with the lines
and lying to readers that I was the author of his lies.

Educated idiots. Pure "Ministry of Truth" out of 1984.

Remember when Stephen Barrett bragged that he was "the media."

http://www.orwelltoday.com/truth.shtml
Exactly.

The Ministsry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of
the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the
film and radio carried the process further.

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of
Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes,
plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information,
instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric
poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a
Newspeak dictionary.

If any of you wish to see the tactics used by Barrett and Team ...
watch Zeitgeist.

With love from Ilena

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/

http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com

http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Health Lover

http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/snake-oil.htm
There are several people who have joined this team's internet
interactions who are not listed ... two of them using aliases have
recently had their masks removed. One quit Wikipedia immediately ...

Snake-oil Team

Peter Bowditch
Woofie Pearson
Robert Baratz
Mattias Haglund
Bernard Morey
Mark Lowry
Christopher Brown
Andrew Langer
Mark Thorson
Willa Nidiffer
David Wright
Rich Andrews          Rosalind Dalefield
David Green
TD Laing
Cindy Province
Paul Lee
John Stone
Janice Lyons
James Laidler
Mark Probert
Rich Shewmaker
David Gorski
Andrew Kingoff
Honorary Members
These are people who aren't in the list above but who have been named
in Nuremberg 2001, the court case against members of "one of the most
evil, and vicious, organizations ever to stalk Planet Earth's
Families"
Stephen Barrett
Judith Barrett
Terry Polevoy
Christopher Grell
Rebecca Long
Rebekah Johnson
Aron Primack
Peter W. Pappas
Joseph Pizzorno
William T. Jarvis          Tim Gorski
Bill Ross
Monica Pignotti
Michael McNeil
Paul Hilling
Paul Smith
Esther Figueroa
J
PeterB - 18 Apr 2008 04:09 GMT
> Now here is a Quackwatch Ministry of Truth Style "Winky Winky", if I
> ever heard one!
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> Esther Figueroa
> J

Hi Ilena,

Do you know if Rosalind is still working the ng?
Mark Probert - 02 May 2008 14:05 GMT
> Esther Figueroa

Ms. Figeuora was murdered by the "treatments" of Hulda Clark.
Jan Drew - 02 May 2008 22:55 GMT
On Apr 17, 4:41 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:

> Esther Figueroa

Off-topic.

Who wrote that, Mark S Probert?
Oliver - 21 Apr 2008 15:30 GMT
> Response from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:
> www.ilenarose.blogspot.com

> www.ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com

> www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/

On the pages cited above, recidivist scammer Ilena Rosenthal says you
can make a
tax-deductible donation to her fraudulent charity "Humantics". If  you
like, you can
tell PayPal what you think of their abetting Rosenthal's criminal
activity by
going to this page and clicking on "Site Feedback" at the bottom and
filling in the Comments section.

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_home-general&nav=0

The California Attorney-General and the IRS might take notice as well.
PeterB - 23 Apr 2008 00:14 GMT
> > Response from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:
> >www.ilenarose.blogspot.com
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>
> The California Attorney-General and the IRS might take notice as well.

Thanks, Ollie, I took the info and advised PayPal that a group of
smear goons are trying to settle a score with health activist
Rosenthal and should be steadfastly ignored.  Say hello to your
sponsors and don't forget to write from prison some day.
 
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