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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / April 2008Mark Probert Has Emailed His Brother-In-Law At Homeland Security About a VERY benign email exchange. Very Strange!!!!!
WOW. This makes we wonder about proper synapse firing. Mark Probert emailed his brother-in-law, a retired NYPD captain now at Homeland security about an email that could not remotely be considered a personal threat or a National threat. Is this normal behavior or a threat? Unbelievable. Talk about people that cannot deal with opposing opinions!!!!!!! > WOW. This makes we wonder about proper synapse firing. > Mark Probert emailed his brother-in-law, a retired NYPD captain now at [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Unbelievable. > Talk about people that cannot deal with opposing opinions!!!!!!! First, email is private. You have NO ethics. Second, YOU emailed me with the name of a family member, a retired NYPD Captain who now works for Homeland Security. I had not emailed you for weeks. YOU initiated it. Since my relative is in a highly sensitive position, I felt he should have a heads up. His comment was, "thanks for the info." Third, you offered no opinion. Just invasion of my family. > First, email is private. You have NO ethics. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Third, you offered no opinion. Just invasion of my family. So basically, you are saying, if I understand you correctly here; if you do not happen to share the opinions as board posters or people that you email, that you have no problem of turning their names over to your family member that is with Homeland Security? I guess another question to ask would be, how many other people have your turned over to Homeland Security that have posted on these boards or you have shared emails with? That party you mention, is a mere public servant and nothing else. Many people have very sensitive jobs; he/she is not anything special, maybe to you as a relative, but not to me as a board poster. There is really no point posting to the MHA if everyone that posts here has to comply with your standards of conduct in the newsgroup or they are turned over to Homeland Security. It has been entertaining, but if this is how it works then there is no point posting here anymore, under the careful eye, of if you do not happen to like what people write, you will turn them into your connection at Homeland Security. So, my next question, how many other people from here have you turned in because they did not share your same opinion? > > First, email is private. You have NO ethics. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > So basically, you are saying, if I understand you correctly here; That would be a first time. if > you do not happen > to share the opinions as board posters or people that you email NOPE. It has NOTHING todo with opinions. Absolutely nothing. , that > you have no problem > of turning their names over to your family member that is with > Homeland Security? Incorrect, as per usual. When I receive an email which references my family member, (try not to forget that point) who holds a highly sensitive position with Homeland Security, I let the family member know that there is something that can be found out about them on Usenet. > I guess another question to ask would be, how many other people have > your turned over > to Homeland Security that have posted on these boards or you have > shared emails with? None. See above for explanation of why you are wrong. > That party you mention, is a mere public servant and nothing else. Actually, he is in a highly sensitive position. > Many people have very > sensitive jobs; he/she is not anything special, maybe to you as a > relative, but not to me as a board poster. You as a citizen rely on his, and his counterparts, efforts and ability to do their jobs. > There is really no point posting to the MHA if everyone that posts > here has to comply with > your standards of conduct in the newsgroup or they are turned over to > Homeland Security. That is stupid of you to say, and you lack any understanding whatsoever. No one has to comply with my standards, and, you raising that is raising a red herring, your favorite food. > It has been entertaining, but if this is how it works then there is no > point posting here anymore, under [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So, my next question, how many other people from here have you turned > in because they did not share your same opinion? Like I said, Zero. Just like your IQ. On Apr 11, 11:56 pm, Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 11, 2:43 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > So basically, you are saying, if I understand you correctly here; That would be a first time. if > you do not happen > to share the opinions as board posters or people that you email NOPE. It has NOTHING todo with opinions. Absolutely nothing. , that > you have no problem > of turning their names over to your family member that is with > Homeland Security? Incorrect, as per usual. When I receive an email which references my family member, (try not to forget that point) who holds a highly sensitive position with Homeland Security, I let the family member know that there is something that can be found out about them on Usenet. > I guess another question to ask would be, how many other people have > your turned over > to Homeland Security that have posted on these boards or you have > shared emails with? None. See above for explanation of why you are wrong. > That party you mention, is a mere public servant and nothing else. Actually, he is in a highly sensitive position. > Many people have very > sensitive jobs; he/she is not anything special, maybe to you as a > relative, but not to me as a board poster. You as a citizen rely on his, and his counterparts, efforts and ability to do their jobs. > There is really no point posting to the MHA if everyone that posts > here has to comply with > your standards of conduct in the newsgroup or they are turned over to > Homeland Security. That is stupid of you to say, and you lack any understanding whatsoever. No one has to comply with my standards, and, you raising that is raising a red herring, your favorite food. > It has been entertaining, but if this is how it works then there is no > point posting here anymore, under [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So, my next question, how many other people from here have you turned > in because they did not share your same opinion? Like I said, Zero. Just like your IQ. = Mark S Probert--Had YOU had not emailed The good Dr Kulacz, NONE of this would have happened!! YOU never learn! > WOW. This makes we wonder about proper synapse firing. > Mark Probert emailed his brother-in-law, a retired NYPD captain now at [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Unbelievable. > Talk about people that cannot deal with opposing opinions!!!!!!! Do not email me again. You use my openness as a means of attacking me. > > WOW. This makes we wonder about proper synapse firing. > > Mark Probert emailed his brother-in-law, a retired NYPD captain now at [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Do not email me again. You use my openness as a means of attacking > me. Yo fail to tell the complete story Mr. probert. Repoerting me to HOMELAND SECURITY!!!!! This place is wacko. I certainly will not email you again even though you sent me several unsolicited emails weeks ago. Openeness? Hardly. I would embrace openness. I did not reveal the benign content of these current emails oinly the fact that you reported me to HOMELAND SECURIYT!!!! as that is an important open point. A bit agressive on your part, don't you think? > > > WOW. This makes we wonder about proper synapse firing. > > > Mark Probert emailed his brother-in-law, a retired NYPD captain now at [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yo fail to tell the complete story Mr. probert. Projection. YOU failed to tell the whole story. In another post, in this same thread, I stated: "Second, YOU emailed me with the name of a family member, a retired NYPD Captain who now works for Homeland Security. I had not emailed you for weeks. YOU initiated it. Since my relative is in a highly sensitive position, I felt he should have a heads up. His comment was, "thanks for the info." " > Repoerting me to HOMELAND SECURITY!!!!! > This place is wacko. No, I forwarded your email to my brother-in-law, who is employed in a sensitive postion within Homeland Security. I told you that, but you want to distort it. > I certainly will not email you again even though you sent me several > unsolicited emails weeks ago. Which did not attack you in the slightest, nor did it raise any issues with regard to your family or affiliations. The subject matter was this group. > Openeness? Hardly. I would embrace openness. Let's see, you know about my family, and I know nothing of yours. Please post the details. > I did not reveal the benign content of these current emails oinly the > fact that you reported me to HOMELAND SECURIYT!!!! > as that is an important open point. Like I said, YOU mentioned my brother-in-law, who holds a sensitive position. I forwarded the email to him. Period. You do have a problem with comprehension. > A bit agressive on your part, don't you think? Not as much as snooping around to find dirt regarding my background. On Apr 11, 6:04 pm, Kulacz <drkul...@optonline.net> wrote: > On Apr 11, 5:46 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Yo fail to tell the complete story Mr. probert. Projection. YOU failed to tell the whole story. In another post, in this same thread, I stated: "Second, YOU emailed me with the name of a family member, a retired NYPD Captain who now works for Homeland Security. I had not emailed you for weeks. YOU initiated it. Since my relative is in a highly sensitive position, I felt he should have a heads up. His comment was, "thanks for the info." " > Repoerting me to HOMELAND SECURITY!!!!! > This place is wacko. No, I forwarded your email to my brother-in-law, who is employed in a sensitive postion within Homeland Security. I told you that, but you want to distort it. > I certainly will not email you again even though you sent me several > unsolicited emails weeks ago. Which did not attack you in the slightest, nor did it raise any issues with regard to your family or affiliations. The subject matter was this group. > Openeness? Hardly. I would embrace openness. Let's see, you know about my family, and I know nothing of yours. Please post the details. > I did not reveal the benign content of these current emails oinly the > fact that you reported me to HOMELAND SECURIYT!!!! > as that is an important open point. Like I said, YOU mentioned my brother-in-law, who holds a sensitive position. I forwarded the email to him. Period. You do have a problem with comprehension. > A bit agressive on your part, don't you think? Not as much as snooping around to find dirt regarding my background. == http://groups.google.com/group/alt.parenting.spanking/msg/700befbe50981fe7 June 20, 2006 BreastImplantAwareness.org wrote: > Disbarrred Probert's fellow Posse member, Andrew M Langer, also > harassed the directors of our foundation previous to me sending a > polite email to his wife. It is the fact you sent the email which is not polite. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.parenting.spanking/msg/50d5f5befeaf81dd > Care to address the point that *you* stated? > *It is the fact you sent the email which is not polite.* > I noted you didn't. Why is that, Mark? You were sent the email because YOU ARE HER ENABLER. You are part of the problem, and foreign to the solution. > "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message Jan, you're obsession with Mark is not healthy. >> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > Jan, you're obsession with Mark is not healthy. I killfiled him 10 years ago. > On Apr 11, 6:04 pm, Kulacz <drkul...@optonline.net> wrote: >> On Apr 11, 5:46 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > Not as much as snooping around to find dirt regarding my background. > == Post his email address now so all can post rebuttals or complaints or render your personal email useless in a court of law. You'd make a nice NAZI turning in your neighbors. > > == > > Post his email address now so all can post rebuttals or complaints or > render your personal email useless in a court of law. > > You'd make a nice NAZI turning in your neighbors. Frank, whatever are you talking about? None of your post makes any sense. > > > == > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Frank, whatever are you talking about? None of your post makes any > sense. The Kulasz effect. > > > > == > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > The Kulasz effect. How did this cross post get from being just here to breast implants to attn. deficit? Why do people cross post? Is it to attempt the damage the reputations of others in other groups? Or is it to drag more swingers and punchers into the playground? Calling all thugs and bullies -- we need back-up, is that how it works? >> > > Post his email address now so all can post rebuttals or complaints or >> > > render your personal email useless in a court of law. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > How did this cross post get from being just here to breast implants to > attn. deficit? It's all in the thread history. In reverse order: Bee: MHA Mark Probert: MHA, ASAD Bee: MHA, ASAD Frank: MHA, ASAD Jan Drew: MHA, ASBI, MKH, ASAD Mark Probert: MHA Kulacz: MHA Mark Probert: MHA Kulacz: MHA > Why do people cross post? Is it to attempt the damage the > reputations of others in other groups? > Or is it to drag more swingers and punchers into the playground? > Calling all thugs and bullies -- we need back-up, > is that how it works? You earlier accused me of always having an answer. Well, you were wrong. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > In message <87789d39-74bb-4994-8cf2-ed3a26ab9...@b5g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, Bee wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > You earlier accused me of always having an answer. > Well, you were wrong. well, you answered half the question. > > > > > == > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Calling all thugs and bullies -- we need back-up, > is that how it works? I do know that I did not change the message groups. Try someone else. The only time I change the groups is when the number of groups exceeds the Google limit of five. Keep up the good work. On Apr 17, 10:25 pm, "Frank" <dawgf...@ten.hut> wrote: > > == > > Post his email address now so all can post rebuttals or complaints or > render your personal email useless in a court of law. > > You'd make a nice NAZI turning in your neighbors. Frank, whatever are you talking about? None of your post makes any sense. ============================================= Had you followed the thread you would have realized that Jan Drew sends copies of messages to her relative in Homeland Security, or at least she said so. Do you get it now? Do you now see why the comment about her turning in her neighbors just like the NAZI's did, or the Soviet Russians? If I misread it and it was actually Mark who did this, then just substitute his name as being the skunk. > On Apr 17, 10:25 pm, "Frank" <dawgf...@ten.hut> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > copies of messages to her relative in Homeland Security, or at least she > said so. Poor Frank is lost. > Do you get it now? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If I misread it and it was actually Mark who did this, then just > substitute his name as being the skunk. Poor Frank is lost. >> On Apr 17, 10:25 pm, "Frank" <dawgf...@ten.hut> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> > Poor Frank is lost. That does not negate that you are a religious hypocrite and liar. I was on your kf. > > On Apr 11, 6:04 pm, Kulacz <drkul...@optonline.net> wrote: > >> On Apr 11, 5:46 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > You'd make a nice NAZI turning in your neighbors Hi Frank. You may email me at mark<dot>probert@gmail<dot>com for the full, unabridged story. I will even gladly forward some of the email to you for your review. > Hi Frank. You may email me at mark<dot>probert@gmail<dot>com for > the full, unabridged story. I will even gladly forward some of the > email to you for your review. I wouldn't do that, Frank. But if you, consider the source. > > Hi Frank. You may email me at mark<dot>probert@gmail<dot>com for > > the full, unabridged story. I will even gladly forward some of the > > email to you for your review. > > I wouldn't do that, Frank. But if you, consider the source. Afraid of facts, Petey? Frank asked for myemail address, I provided it, as I have nothing to hide. Obviously, you do. > > > Hi Frank. You may email me at mark<dot>probert@gmail<dot>com for > > > the full, unabridged story. I will even gladly forward some of the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Obviously, you do. No Markey, not the facts, I'm afraid of you. Anyone knowing your SOP would be. > No Markey, not the facts, I'm afraid of you. Anyone knowing your SOP > would be. Do not be afraid Peter. His SOP is what some psychologist refer to as the OPRAH effect. I just read about it recently. It was posted to THE forum. PeterB <pkm@mytrashmail.com> expounded: >> > > Hi Frank. You may email me at mark<dot>probert@gmail<dot>com for >> > > the full, unabridged story. I will even gladly forward some of the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >No Markey, not the facts, I'm afraid of you. Anyone knowing your SOP >would be. Afraid of Mark? But you're not afraid of people who post others' personal information all over the internet. I've 'known' Mark for years and have never once seen him do any of the unethical things others have done on Usenet.  SignatureProud member WWWSC #2 Formerly known as Ann > Afraid of Mark? But you're not afraid of people who post others' > personal information all over the internet. I've 'known' Mark for > years and have never once seen him do any of the unethical things > others have done on Usenet. Do you know Gracie, too? >>> > > Hi Frank. You may email me at mark<dot>probert@gmail<dot>com for >>> > > the full, unabridged story. I will even gladly forward some of the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > years and have never once seen him do any of the unethical things > others have done on Usenet. http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/0e9d36d524... Oct 21 2002, 10:09 pm I emailed you regarding both issues. Do not make them into an amalgam. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/0257a9a... Jan 7 2004, 3:00 pm Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 30 X-Admin: n...@aol.com From: aloysio...@aol.com (AloysiousX) Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:59:31 GMT References: <20040106235101.22060.00001...@mb-m19.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution Message-ID: <20040107135931.11201.00002...@mb-m11.aol.com> >Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution >From: jdrew63...@aol.com (Jan) >Date: 1/6/2004 11:51 PM Eastern Standard Time >Message-id: <20040106235101.22060.00001...@mb-m19.aol.com> >>Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution >>From: il...@san.rr.com (Ilena) >>Date: 1/6/2004 1:51 PM Pacific Standard Time >>Message-id: <19faaec.0401061351.5690...@posting.google.com> >>aloysio...@aol.com (Mark S "Marla" Probert) >OMG!!!!! >It's him AGAIN hiding behind YET ANOTHER fake name!! No, it isn't. Sistah Ilena has made this accusation but has not been able to substantiate it in any way. You might ask her why she believes this, Sistah Jan. >Using his son's computer. I have no children, Sistah Jan. As Salaam Aleikum, my Sistah! AloysiousX http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/14f3df4... Jan 7 2004 3:39 pm >Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution >From: jdrew63...@aol.com (Jan) [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >The spirit?? >Care to explain that?? I would be happy to. In their Resolution, the participants said the following: "We, the undersigned, are certain that like us, you have grown immensely tired of this back and forth... Therefore, as the turn of a New Year symbolizes new beginnings, we are offering the following New Year's Resolution..." The spirit? They are tired, they know that others are tired, and therefore because it is a time for new beginnings they are going to alleviate everybody's tiredness and disengage. As I said earlier, it was clear. >> others feel the need to weigh in inappropriately. >What need does that fulfill?? I am not sure. As you are the one weighing in inappropriately perhaps you can tell us what need that inappropriate weighing in fulfills? >>It is fairly obvious to me that Jan was trying to provoke one of the >>signers >>into breaking their promise, >That's a strange logic, please kindly leave means, please kindly leave. If >that >provokes, you must be hunting for something more to whine about. "Please kindly leave," especially when stated from someone who infreqently posts to the breast implant group (I do not recall ever seeing a post by you here), and from someone who frequently posts in support of Sistah Ilena elsewhere (which I have seen), is a statement calculated to elicit a response from somebody else. You don't tell someone to "get out" (to put it less politely and more plainly) unless you're trying to provoke a response. >>just as it is obvious to me that you are doing the >>same thing, Sistah Ilena. >Umm. Sistah. Was that meant to provoke?? No, that was meant to be polite. I try to refer to all of Allah's human creatures as my brothers and "Sistahs". >>There is something that you say below that I find extremely provocative. >Please don't stress yourself, better to just leave. Why should I leave, Sistah Jan? I came here looking for information and have now been mistaken for someone I am not. Sistah Ilena made an accusation (another one), and I found the context in which that accusation was made to be provocative as well. ><snip> I see you snipped where I again point out that Sistah Ilena's accusation that I am Mark Probert is not substantiated. >>With a provoking statement. She didn't have to say anything at all, but >>if >>she was posting to elicit a response on the subject, she was acting in a >provoking apacity. >Gee, such a big deal over the words. *please kindly leave*. When someone who rarely posts to the breast implant groupand who posts elsewhere a great deal in support of Sistah Ilena shows up to tell someone who has said that they are going to ignore Sistah Ilena to "leave," I'd say that is something to take notice of. >A pity a support group has turned into such hate. Hate? I don't hate anybody, Sistah Jan. I came here originally to find information, and when I tried to be nice, was attacked and accused of being someone who I am not. What I do have is a concern for fairness and equity. Some of the unfair and inequitable treatment in the breast implant group really bothers me. As Salaam Aleikum, My Sistah! AloysiousX http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/64e7703... Jan 2 2004 , 12:27 pm Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant, misc.health.alternative, misc.kids.health From: "Mark ProbertJanuary 4, 2004" <MarkProbert1-4...@lumbercartel.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 16:27:07 GMT Local: Sun, Jan 4 2004 12:27 pm Subject: A New Year's Resolution Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!priapus.visi.com!orange.octanews.net!news.octanews.net!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!newshosting.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!167.206.3.103.MISMATCH!news3.optonline.net!news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Mark ProbertJanuary 4, 2004" <MarkProbert1-4...@lumbercartel.com> Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health Subject: A New Year's Resolution Lines: 111 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <v9XJb.37206$g77.8253...@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 16:27:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.194.64.219 X-Complaints-To: ab...@cv.net X-Trace: news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net 1073233627 68.194.64.219 (Sun, 04 Jan 2004 11:27:07 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 11:27:07 EST Organization: Optimum Online OrgName: Optimum Online (Cablevision Systems) OrgID: OPTO Address: 111 new south RD City: Hicksville StateProv: NY PostalCode: 11801 Country: US From: Andrew Langer (Lang...@aol.com) Subject: A New Year's Resolution View: Complete Thread (2 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: alt.support.breast-implant Date: 2003-12-31 08:03:44 PST R E S O L V E D To the readers of Alt.support.breast-implant: Many of you have seen or read the numerous messages which go back and forth between Ilena Rosenthal, Director of the Humantics Foundation for Women, and persons she refers to as her "enemies". We, the undersigned, are certain that like us, you have grown immensely tired of this back and forth. Therefore, as the turn of a New Year symbolizes new beginnings, we are offering the following New Year's Resolution. Commencing from the period immediately following the posting of this message, and through January 31, the undersigned posters pledge to completely ignore Ilena Rosenthal. And we mean ignore in the same spirit offered by the great non-violent peace activists: we will not not respond, no matter how provoked. We will not provoke. We will not acknowledge the presence or even existence of Ilena Rosenthal whatsoever on Usenet. Ms. Rosenthal herself has said, "Here's another idea ... ask those attacking me to leave me alone ...have them stop telling me what to do, how to do it, and stop claiming I'm a cocaine addicted pandering whore ...and I'll have no need to defend myself. I'd happily continue posting articles, studies, links etc. as I've done for 8 years." (Message: 19faaec.0309231828.46edf...@posting.google.com) Here is a perfect opportunity for her to finally make that promise real. On February 1, the success of this will be assessed, and a thorough and honest accounting will be offered in the form of a brief summary report. At that time, it is up to the signatories to this resolution to decide for themselves whether or not their participation ought to be continued. One note - this pledge does not mean that the signatories refrain from posting to Usenet, or even from a.s.b-i. It means, simply, that for the period of this point through January 31, it will be as though Ilena Rosenthal does not exist to them. They are free to post anything else, so long as it does not respond to, refer to, or in any way acknowledge Ilena Rosenthal, the Humantics Foundation, or any directly associated entities. Thank you for your understanding of this matter. We would ask that any non-signatories not inflame the rhetoric themselves, and if you must write on this subject that it be in a moderating and reminding capacity. Our best wishes for a happy, prosperous, productive, and peaceful New Year. Any of those not listed who are interested in participating are free to add their names at the bottom, so long as they recognize the responsibility such signing carries with it. We do not want anyone joining with us who cannot exercise the self-control necessary to engage in this civil action. Sincerely, Andrew M. Langer Lang...@aol.com Coleah Penley-Ayers Col...@pacifier.com Martha Murdock MAM-N...@prodigy.net Myrl Jeffcoat M...@jps.net Robert Moore OORER...@aol.com Dr. Patrick O'Leary Mp...@aol.com Karen S. Lawrence ParfumG...@aol.com Suan Schaezler SusanS3...@aol.com, I made this resolution severalyears ago. Unfortunately, I am still the victim of her attacks as she sees me everywhere anyone posts from AOL. I have absolutely no desire to deal with this woman, but, alas, she will not leave me alone. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/fc5af45... Jan 2 2004 1:55 pm >Subject: Re: A New Year's Resolution >From: il...@san.rr.com (Ilena) >Date: 1/6/2004 12:08 PM Eastern Standard Time >Message-id: <19faaec.0401060908.68a7...@posting.google.com> >Jan "The Provacateuse" ... this one cracked me up! Then you are obviously easily amused. Even though Andrew and others have made the spirit in which they made their New Year's Resolution clear, others feel the need to weigh in inappropriately. It is fairly obvious to me that Jan was trying to provoke one of the signers into breaking their promise, just as it is obvious to me that you are doing the same thing, Sistah Ilena. There is something that you say below that I find extremely provocative. >Andy's arrogance has reached new depths ... as well as his misusing >this french word for "provoker." Are we to now believe that you are an expert in french, Sistah? I thought it was fairly clear (and clever) that rather than call Jan a "provocateur", which would be incorrect given her gender, he called her a "provocateuse", which was gender-correct. Rather PC of him. Certainly accurate. It's a nicer word than "provoker," don't you think? >"Provacateuse" ... Junk Science$peak for daring to respond to a >thread where Junk Science Flack Andy (Andrew M. Langer) was calling >his troups together! You get a little touchy when people publicly announce that they want nothing to do with you, don't you, Sistah Ilena? >Andy and Aloysisius/Marla/Probert have longed worked threads in tandem >... especially when they are about me ... (who Andy is "ignoring" of >course and won't even read this note if he is being honest)... Well, my only intersection with Langer and Probert has been regarding you, Sistah Ilena. I've never even spoken with Probert, though you claim that he and I are the same person. Apparently it is just another unsupported accusation made by Sistah Ilena Rosenthal. >After Andy and failed silicone manufacturer O'leary and Dow Corning >Dave (his Daddy and he both have been on the silicone gravy train) and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >fills with Quack$peak for Barrett etc. ... >and Jan dared to respond ... With a provoking statement. She didn't have to say anything at all, but if she was posting to elicit a response on the subject, she was acting in a provoking capacity. >Andy posted his verse below ... apparently ignorant that he was the >provoker ... not Jan. My dictionary defines "provoker" as "someone who deliberately foments trouble." Posting a statement that you are going to ignore someone isn't one of provocation, as it isn't made to "foment trouble." The statement was posted explicitly to avoid trouble and alleviate trouble. Isn't it funny how someone who just accused someone else of misusing a word has now been shown to have been misusing a word herself? >Both Andy and Probert "reach out" to posters who don't go with their >"program" in their attempts to "educate" them ... I just found a >couple of messages from women telling me how after they posted here >... Andy wrote them trying to "educate" them of how bad I am (LOL) ... >nice job he has! This is the provactive statement I referred to above, Sistah Ilena. It is clearly provocative to make an accusation that someone has gone behind someone else's back to undermine their credibility and then not post any proof to support that accusation, especially when the accused person has sworn not to respond, and is thus unable to defend himself. This is the kind of tactic you keep in your arsenal, and one of the reasons why I could in good conscience no longer support you. So now I ask you, because Brother Langer cannot, to please share with us your proof of this accusation. Please, Sistah Ilena. I would like to see the e-mails that Brother Langer sent to these women. As Salaam Aleikum, my Sistah! Our best wishes for a happy, prosperous, productive, and peaceful New Year. Any of those not listed who are interested in participating are free to add their names at the bottom, so long as they recognize the responsibility such signing carries with it. We do not want anyone joining with us who cannot exercise the self-control necessary to engage in this civil action. Sincerely, Andrew M. Langer Lang...@aol.com Coleah Penley-Ayers Col...@pacifier.com Martha Murdock MAM-N...@prodigy.net Myrl Jeffcoat M...@jps.net Robert Moore OORER...@aol.com Dr. Patrick O'Leary Mp...@aol.com Karen S. Lawrence ParfumG...@aol.com Susan Schaezler SusanS3...@aol.com, Dave Angelotti DAngelo...@aol.com Mark Probert markprobert1...@hotmail.com AloysiousX http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/b9d1f05... Jan 13 2004 11:40 am "Jan" <jdrew63...@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040112223605.01690.00001909@mb-m18.aol.com... > >From: Andrew Langer Lang...@aol.com > >Date: 1/12/2004 9:24 AM Pacific Standard Time > >Message-id: <VKAMb.11931$Ia....@www.newsranger.com> > Phew,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > Do you know when to shut up?? > Carry on. Tsk. Tsk. Jan, why are you here? Your name never came up in this group before. Follow this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/browse_thre... > PeterB <p...@mytrashmail.com> expounded: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Proud member WWWSC #2 > Formerly known as Ann- PeteyB is a hypocrite. And a very typical one at that. On Apr 21, 5:55 pm, "markprob...@lumbercartel.com" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > > PeterB <p...@mytrashmail.com> expounded: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Let's drop this thread once and for all. I did not realize it at the time but it was a mistake for me to have started it. > Let's drop this thread once and for all. > I did not realize it at the time but it was a mistake for me to have > started it.- Hide quoted text - Good idea, but there are rabid junk yard dogs who wil lnot let go. As far as I am concerned, we have nothing to say to each other, unless it is a substantive discussion. On Apr 21, 6:15 pm, Kulacz <drkul...@optonline.net> wrote: > Let's drop this thread once and for all. > I did not realize it at the time but it was a mistake for me to have > started it.- Hide quoted text - Good idea, but there are rabid junk yard dogs who **wil*** lnot let go. As far as I am concerned, we have nothing to say to each other, unless it is a substantive discussion. === Thanks for proving again it was you and not your wife who emailed me. > Let's drop this thread once and for all. > I did not realize it at the time but it was a mistake for me to have > started it. No, it wasn't. The disbarred attorney is a longtime member of a criminal stalking ring comprised of convicted child molesters like Mark D. Morin, child porno buffs like Pablo, pedarestic FAQ authors like John M. Palmer, smut kings like Joseph M. Parsons, two time killers like WG, and, a slew of irredeemable degenerate females who have been blatantly and boldly serial and criminally gang stalking all the health loving american taxpayers who make the mistake of subscribing to ASAD for FIFTEEN FRIGGEN YEARS. The disbarred attorney is also a longstalking member of the CRIMINAL cyberstalking ring a/k/a who have been criminally gang stalking Ilena Rose, Jan Drew, and lots of other health loving US taxpayers who subscribed to Misc.health.alternative for eons. Furthermore, the disbarred attorney is a quasi member of the SPP/AUK/ AMH Criminal Stalking Ring who have been blatantly and boldly criminally stalking and terrorizing innocent americans for fifteen friggen years. The SPP Criminal Stalking Ring was originally led by criminally insane psychologists who sought to protect a army colonel booted out of the army from the social consequences of his having been booted out of the army as a result of the Military CID's lettering him for lewd acts with a three year old, BY, criminally stalking innocent people who included the public records of this event in their website. The thing about this particular ex army colonel is that he's alleged to be one of the military personnel in charge of the genocide the US military occaisioned in all america's major inner cities by their flooding them with crack cocaine to arm the contra's so they could overthrow and take over their government. Now...put yourself in the place of the targets of the disbarred attorneys gangstalking. Primary targets of their criminal gang stalking which has been organized by an extraordinarily group of malignant individuals whose connections include the extraordinary malignant indivduals who are responsilbe for all american health professionals have been under seige for two decades, "The Company" which engenders Mass Murder and Mayhem on every college campus it infiltrates (Virginia Tech is the county seat of The "Company"), as well as tenuous connections with both the Contra's, and, the Highway Richies of Drug Overlords in all america's inner cities. There exists ZERO possibility that Law Enforcement Agencies do not know that the individuals whom the disbarred attorney targets are and have excellent reasons to be TERRORFIED upon discovering themselves the target of the disbarred attorney's criminal gangstalking. Neither the disbarred attorney nor the cybercriminals he's been running with for a decade could blatantly and boldly organize and/or participate in the criminal gangstalking and TERRORFICATION of americans without insider help from the FBI and Homeland Security....since the disbarred attorney and his cyberpals are all blatant TERRORISTS. We already know the name of the high ranking FBI agent whose obstruction of justice wrt gangstalking of Andrew Chmilewski then myself created the situation where all these criminal cyberstalkers believe they can keep right on stalking and terrorfying americans without ever having to account for their having done so. Now, targets and their families knows the name of at least one Homeland Security Agent who personally knows one of these TERRORISTS. It helps to know the names of the FBI and Homeland Security employees who take no action to enforce the right of all americans to live free of the TERRORISM from the disbarred attorney and his ilk. ************************************************************* PS....the disbarred attorney is a blatant and bold faced liar. The disbarred attorney does recruit family members to help him and his criminal stalking ring terrorize his crime victims. As a matter of fact, one of his targets received an unwanted and unsolicited email from the disbarred attorney wherein the disbarred attorney had CC'd one of his targets disloyal relatives. In addition, there's the matter of the disbarred attorneys handiwork wrt a targets custody battle and the Attorney General in the state of Maine... The disbarred attorney is one of many cybercriminals who have left no stone unturned in their efforts to protect criminals like themselves, BY, contributing to the imprisonment, commitment, or murder in the second degree of their crime victims. They always have and continue to recruit corrupt authorities in RL to aid and abet their relentless stalking and terrorfication of their targets. The disbarred attorney and his ilk do NOT cease stalking a target until they succeed in their efforts to protect themselves and criminals like themselves from the legal consequences of their crimes, BY, contributing to the imprisonment, commitment and/or murder in the second degree of their crime victims. They stalk their targets day after day, month after month, year after year, and decade after decade.. Both the FBI and Homeland Security all know it, too. That Homeland Security Agent is fully ACCOUNTABLE for the murder and mayhem his BIL is visiting upon the families of americans whom the disbarred attorney and his criminal cyberstalking ring is and has been terrorizing for years and years. I, for one, appreciate knowing the names of ALL the individuals who collaborated directly, or indirectly, in my murder (in the second degree). I hold each and everyone of them accountable for their actions, even if they themselves don't. Thanks, Linda Gore Las Vegas, Nevada > > Let's drop this thread once and for all. > > I did not realize it at the time but it was a mistake for me to have > > started it. > > No, it wasn't. You, too, can be a rabid junk yard dog. On Apr 22, 12:38 pm, Linda <Indomitab...@netzero.com> wrote: > On Apr 21, 3:15 pm, Kulacz <drkul...@optonline.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > No, it wasn't. You, too, can be a rabid junk yard dog. Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: "M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t-September 7, 2004" <M,a,r,k P,r,o,b,e,r,t 09-07...@lambercartel.com> Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 10, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t 07-10...@lymbercartel.com> From: M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-April 30, 2004 (M.a.r.k_P.r.o.b.e.r.t_04-30...@limbercartel.com) Newsgroups: alt.support.cerebral-palsy, misc.handicap From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 11, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t 06-11...@lombercartel.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:11:24 GMT Arf. > > > > Hi Frank. You may email me at mark<dot>probert@gmail<dot>com for > > > > the full, unabridged story. I will even gladly forward some of the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > No Markey, not the facts, I'm afraid of you. Anyone knowing your SOP > would be. What would that SOP be? I do not contact family, friends, employers, etc. for anything that goes on in the newsgroup. When someone invades my family's provacy and goes hunting for dirt on me, and then finds something that would take a long time to find, I let that family member know, BECASUE HE ASKED ME TO DO SO. On Apr 19, 5:47 pm, PeterB <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 19, 12:02 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > No Markey, not the facts, I'm afraid of you. Anyone knowing your SOP > would be. What would that SOP be? I do not contact family, friends, employers, etc. for anything that goes on in the newsgroup. Blatant Repeated lie. ============================================= Dear Mrs. Drew: I am using email to you since I do not wish to participate in Usenet. I trust that you *wil* respect this. I *wil* not email you again, except to forward to you other emails that Rosenthal has sent to me. She had the unmitigated gall to actually post this email to a webpage, which she acknowledges, and has since removed. She had the nerve to post my place of employment in the newsgroups and on that webpage. Frankly, I am tired of your constant blaming Mark for everything that Rosenthal has done to him. This email was sent to ME, not him, by her. He had warned her several times not to do so, but, she went ahead and emailed me. I have spoken with some of Mark's friends in government law enforcement, and they tell me that this can be construed as stalking behavior, since I have never had contact with her. Let me be blunt: I have been fully aware of Mark's activities from day one as we share *verything* in our relationship. He has NEVER posted as Will Ketcher, and we have not had an AOL account for a long time. However, Rosenthal persists in accusing him. Let me clear up this issue Mark's attempt to infiltrate her email list. He has never denied doing so, and has clearly stated his reasons, which Rosenthal rejects. When he mentioned that our younger son was about to have surgery he began receiving some very nasty email which sounded quite a bit like Rosenthal. I read them, and know that they were hate filled and mirrored her usual verbiage. Some of them actually wished ill to our son. Remember, I am an English teacher and I spend hours a day reading students' work. I also felt that they could have originated with people who were affiliated with her. Mark was deeply offended by some of the statements in these emails, and he attempted to locate the senders, but was unsuccessful. He then decided to try to read her group to see if he could identify the offending individuals. As you know, she found out what he did, and posted a message to that effect. Mark *immeidatrely* acknowledged what he did, and expressed his reasons, which she denied and said that we never received such email, even though she had absolutely no way of reading his email inbox. You have been *concistently*wrong about Mark, and even more consistently wrong about Mark. I have read many instances where it was clear that you did not *udnerstand* what he was saying. Now that you do not read his full messages (many times you respond to something that has been severely edited) or his replies, you are making assumptions based on less than all the facts. If you were my student, you would get an F. When I first received this email I was very upset by her actions, and I wanted to file complaints with Hotmail, RoadRunner and GoDaddy, her website host. Mark talked me out of it, as he does not think that such actions *wil lhelp* her. In fact, he is convinced that she *wil* become even more abusive and obsessed with "enemies." You know that I have every right to make such complaints. Several of my students have used her website about Mark in their *wrtiings* in my senior honors writing seminar. Another group has used Rosenthal in a debate in my senior debating class. They used her to demonstrate that the First Amendment, which is posted in Mark's study, protects even the most vile people. I gave them an A. I trust that this helps you get a better perspective on Mark, and on Rosenthal. As I said above, I will not email you again, but I will forward all of her current messages to me. If you wish to respond to me, please do so at SandraProb...@hotmail.com. I am using my professional email address simply because that is the address Rosenthal used. Sandra Probert SPro...@nycboe.net ==================================== >Subject: Re: The Stupidity Of Mark Probert >From: Ilena Rose il...@san.rr.com >Date: 12/11/2004 7:54 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <9t5mr0hh567udhfkg2f61g96mgu645p...@4ax.com> >On 11 Dec 2004 07:30:48 GMT, jdrew63...@aol.com (Jan) wrote quoting >Sandra Probert? >>You have been concistently wrong about Mark, and even more consistently >wrong >>about Mark. >This is a High School English Teacher? >F for spelling. >F for redundancy. >Just curious ... did you write her/him ... or did s/he write you, >Jan? Out of the blue three e-mails came to me,all on the same day within minutes apart. I certainly never e-mail her, not Mark as is my policy. I have asked Mark over and over NOT to e-mail me, as previously he used a different addy to get past my filter. As preciously, he has an insane need to be heard. I did reply to two of them, here thy are in full. 12/10/2004 11:04:13 PM Pacific Standard Time From: JDrew63929 To: SPro...@nycboe.net To: Probert Sandra (26Q495) THIS IS NOT AN E-MAIL ADDRESS. GET LOST To: SPro...@nycboe.net 12/10/2004 11:02:38 PM Pacific Standard Time From: JDrew63929 To: SPro...@nycboe.net In a message dated 12/10/2004 7:27:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, SPro...@nycboe.net writes: In a message dated 12/10/2004 7:27:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, SPro...@nycboe.net writes: Dear Mrs. Drew: DO NOT E-MAIL ME MARK. YOU HAVE PROBLEMS, GET OVER YOUR HATRED AND GET A LIFE. http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/12558836dbb3b235 Dec 11 2004 8:33 pm >Subject: Re: The Stupidity Of Mark Probert >From: Ilena Rose il...@san.rr.com >Date: 12/11/2004 9:19 AM Pacific Standard Time >Message-id: <tgamr09sgac299jr0fr1s8qd8qb6lpq...@4ax.com> >You know Jan ... I looked over the notes I received from Sandra >Probert ... they were nothing like the one she was supposed to have >sent you. >Still curious ... out of the blue ... did Sandra write you? YES. > I didn't >see anything where she was responding to anything you wrote >I do agree with you ... it doesn't sound like a Senior High School >Teacher and I doubt sincerely she would have had her class read and >write about this webpage. Yhat would be absurd. >Maybe you could write her back and ask to see something they wrote on >it. No thanks. >The idea that an email would be against someone's freedom of speech >... but Mark's telephone threats to me ... not is absurd. >Would you please send me the headers from the message that is signed >by Sandra Probert? All three: Return-Path: <SPro...@nycboe.net> Received: from rly-xa04.mx.aol.com (rly-xa04.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.40]) by air-xa02.mail.aol.com (v103.7) with ESMTP id MAILINXA24-6b41b9c0881b4; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:28:20 -0500 Received: from mx1mail.nycenet.edu (mx1mail.nycenet.edu [165.155.104.104]) by rly-xa04.mx.aol.com (v103.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXA47-6b41b9c0881b4; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:28:08 -0500 Received: from 2MTEXINET02.nyced.org ([10.2.21.31]) by mx1mail.nycenet.edu (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2004121010280315851 for <jdrew63...@aol.com>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:28:03 -0500 Received: from 2MTEXC08VS.nyced.org ([10.2.3.13]) by 2MTEXINET02.nyced.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:28:08 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FW: Mark S. Probert Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:28:06 -0500 Message-ID: <DE1103735361B64AB83B2B43C094072A02BB6DAA@2MTEXC08VS.nyced.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Mark S. Probert Thread-Index: AcTM9lBKMw8W5H0ITb6Q0ZyUYcDjHgR1oh9e From: "Probert Sandra \(26Q495\)" <SPro...@nycboe.net> To: <jdrew63...@aol.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2004 15:28:08.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA154C20:01C4DECC] X-AOL-IP: 165.155.104.104 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:532056407:1342177 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Return-Path: <SPro...@nycboe.net> Received: from rly-xa01.mx.aol.com (rly-xa01.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.37]) by air-xa04.mail.aol.com (v103.7) with ESMTP id MAILINXA42-4941b9c05a1e8; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:27:37 -0500 Received: from mx1mail.nycenet.edu (mx1mail.nycenet.edu [165.155.104.104]) by rly-xa01.mx.aol.com (v103.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXA13-4941b9c05a1e8; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:27:22 -0500 Received: from 2MTEXINET01.nyced.org ([10.2.21.30]) by mx1mail.nycenet.edu (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2004121010271615813 for <jdrew63...@aol.com>; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:27:16 -0500 Received: from 2MTEXC08VS.nyced.org ([10.2.3.13]) by 2MTEXINET01.nyced.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:27:58 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FW: Mark S. Probert Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:27:53 -0500 Message-ID: <DE1103735361B64AB83B2B43C094072A02BB6...@2MTEXC08VS.nyced.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Mark S. Probert Thread-Index: AcTMKn8qlU24Lu1ETOy2vzHESS6muwSolGgA From: "Probert Sandra \(26Q495\)" <SPro...@nycboe.net> To: <jdrew63...@aol.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2004 15:27:58.0790 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4311E60:01C4DECC] X-AOL-IP: 165.155.104.104 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:524869934:1342177 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Return-Path: <SPro...@nycboe.net> Received: from rly-xa04.mx.aol.com (rly-xa04.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.40]) by air-xa03.mail.aol.com (v103.7) with ESMTP id MAILINXA32-6a41b9c02d18c; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:27:17 -0500 Received: from mx1mail.nycenet.edu (mx1mail.nycenet.edu [165.155.104.104]) by rly-xa04.mx.aol.com (v103.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXA46-6a41b9c02d18c; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:26:37 -0500 Received: from 2MTEXINET02.nyced.org ([10.2.21.31]) by mx1mail.nycenet.edu (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2004121010263115767 ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:26:31 -0500 Received: from 2MTEXC08VS.nyced.org ([10.2.3.13]) by 2MTEXINET02.nyced.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:26:37 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: FW: Mark S. Probert Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:27:13 -0500 Message-ID: <DE1103735361B64AB83B2B43C094072A02BB6...@2MTEXC08VS.nyced.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Mark S. Probert Thread-Index: AcTA/yX8+k+sImlXTt+x0S9UbCnutAdyf63t From: "Probert Sandra \(26Q495\)" <SPro...@nycboe.net> To: <jdrew63...@aol.com> Cc: <snadraprob...@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2004 15:26:37.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3C1FAB0:01C4DECC] X-AOL-IP: 165.155.104.104 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:520453821:1342177 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 Jan >I have the ones she sent me from her school ... we'll see if they >match. >www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html >This is a High School English Teacher? >>You have been concistently wrong about Mark, and even more consistently >>wrong about Mark. >>> F for spelling. >>> F for redundancy. >>> Just curious ... did you write her/him ... or did s/he write you, >>> Jan? Oh, well. follow this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/browse_thread/thread/a9bf 73558bf19e5b/548e3826c0841d5d?q=AFTER+repeatedly+e-mailing+me&lnk=nl& When someone invades my family's provacy and goes hunting for dirt on me, and then finds something that would take a long time to find, I let that family member know, BECASUE HE ASKED ME TO DO SO. > > > > Hi Frank. You may email me at mark<dot>probert@gmail<dot>com for > > > > the full, unabridged story. I will even gladly forward some of the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > No Markey, not the facts, I'm afraid of you. Anyone knowing your SOP > would be. Yep! Health lovers like Ilena Rosenthal have had excellent reasons to live the terrorfilled life which they have been living since they became the object of the disbarred attorneys frightening obsession. Both the psychology and psychiatry professions have been under seige for two decades by homegrown US terrorist cells like the Beck/Loftus FMSF terrorist cell. The disbarred attorney's connection to Leslie Packer, Mark D. Morin, Pablo, and many other prominent members of the SPP/AUK/AHM Criminal Cyberstalking Ring affords the disbarred attorney access to the big dogs who organized the massive organization which has been terrorizing both the psychiatry and psychology professions for the past two decades. The ultimate goal of those who have been terrorizing the psychology and psychiatry professions for decades has been to protect pedophiles and human traffickers and their ilk from the consequences of their criminal actions, BY, contributing to the imprisonment, commitment or murder of their crime victims. Hence, the Disbarred Attorney's connection with the SPP/AUK/AHM Criminal Stalking Ring affords the disbarred attorney connections to the underworld of pedophiles trafficing 800000 to 900000 children annually. One of the alleged pedophiles whom the SPP/AUK/AHM Criminal Cyberstalking Ring sought to protect from the consequences of their having been booted out of the army after the Army CID lettered them for lewd acts with a child, BY, contributing to the imprisonment, commitment and second degreee murder of individuals who included public documents of that event on their website is a man by the name of Micheal Acquino. The thing about Micheal Acquino is that Gary Webb and other US Journalists exposed Acquino as being amongst the US military personell who occaised the genocide in american inner cities BY their having the contra's flood all the inner cities of america with crack cocaine so the contra's could use the profits they reaped from the genocide they occaisioned in US inner cities to arm the contra's so the contra's could overthrow and take over their government. Hence, the disbarred attorneys positive connection with Leslie Packer, Joseph Parsons, Mark D. Morin, Micheal Phoenix, Peter J. Ross, John Price, Michelle Devereaux ALSO affords him a positive connection with alleged pedophiles like Micheal Acquino AND all of America's Highway Richie's and Drug Kingpins selling the CIA's crack cocaine to occaision the genocide in America's cities. Of course, the disbarred attorney or his wife has also been alleging that the disbarred attorney is a former US intelligent agent;therefore, may have all manner of connections to underworld figures from his days as a covert agent employed to befriend underworld figures to subvert and overthrow democracies around the world. That's just for starters.... Because, the disbarred attorney is also connected to the domestic terrorist cell called quackwatch which Barrett and Polevoy founded to terrorize medical doctors and dentists employing the same or similiar guerrilla tactics their peers at the FMSF have been employing to terrorize the psychology and psychiatry professionals for the past two decades. The FMSF or domestic terrorist cell terrorizing the psychology and psychiatry professions for the past several decades misused the corrupt US courts to do so, same as the terrorist cell calling itself Quackwatch does. Furthermore, the disbarred attorney is seen as somewhat of a hero by all the psychopathic individuals whom the now-corrupt psychiatry and psychology professions give a get out of jail free card, along with a legal supply of narcotics and other controlled substances, so psychiatry and psychology professions have a long list of arsons, rapists, kidnappers, baby rapists and torturerers and murderers to call upon to do their dirty work. Paul Palumbo and many other corrupt FBI agents are and have been completely aware of the disbarred attorneys pivotal role in the terrorism of the many innocent people whom the disbarred attorney and other cybercriminals on usenet have been serially and criminally gangstalking for the last fifteen years as a result of the disbarred attorneys complicity in the criminal gangstalking of Andrew Chmilewsky and myself.....as well as, the gangstalking of Napolis, and, of course, Brad Jesness, who eventually filed a formal criminal complaint... Thanks to Dr. K, americans now know that Homeland Security may also be involved in the terrorism which innocent americans have been being subsjected to by the disbarred attorney and his ilk. Fortunately, all is not lost even the disbarred attorney's terrorfication of Ilena and innocent others IS state sponsored terror which the FBI and Homeland Security are perpetrating. Because, Bush/Cheney outsmarted themselves by their including an immunity clause in the unconstitutional laws he got enacted authoring employees of the government to recruit arsons, rapists, baby rapists, kidnappers, and murderers to ILLEGALLY terrorize innocent people. Inclusion of an immunity clause is considered prima facia evidence a government has no intention of prosecuting it's employees nor those it employs to perpetrate crimes against innocent people. Hence, all the targets of the disbarred attorneys frightening obsession may be able to have the disbarred attorney and his ilk prosecuted in the World Court at the Hague for their having perpetrated crimes on a mass scale against the targets they seriially and criminally stalked and terrorfied these past fifteen years. On Apr 18, 6:59 pm, PeterB <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 18, 6:08 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I wouldn't do that, Frank. But if you, consider the source. Afraid of facts, Petey? Frank asked for myemail address, I provided it, as I have nothing to hide. Obviously, you do. ================================================ No, I asked that the email address of the Homeland Security Official be posted for all to utilize if they saw fit to do so. Equal playing field and all. > On Apr 18, 6:59 pm, PeterB <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Obviously, you do. No, I have nothing to hide. Note all the posts by people about me and people that they believe to be me. > ================================================ > No, I asked that the email address of the Homeland Security Official be > posted for all to utilize if they saw fit to do so. Equal playing field > and all. That person is my relative, and asked me to let him know if his name arose in any of my activities. He has a sensitive postion and needs to know these things. > Hi Frank. You may email me at mark<dot>probert@gmail<dot>com for the > full, unabridged story. I will even gladly forward some of the email > to you for your review. I was told this past week, by another federal government authority, that people that work for homeland security cannot go beyond the realm of their duties, and if there is suspect, that this is occurring, that they will be disciplined. I was also told that just because a member of one's family is a member of homeland security, it absolutely does not give them, or their family members any special powers or to intimidate anyone. Homeland Security directed me to another federal government authority after I read them the posts in this thread. > > Hi Frank. You may email me at mark<dot>probert@gmail<dot>com for the > > full, unabridged story. I will even gladly forward some of the email [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > duties, and if there is suspect, that this is occurring, that they > will be disciplined. From what I understand, true. However, this is not relevant to the issue at hand. Dr. K spent an inordinate amount of time to find the link to my brother-in-law. I found it after eleven pages of Google results. That is obsession. He *actively hunted me* and for what reason? Considering that some of his responses to me were irrational, IMNSHO, and the fact that my BIL handles amajor slice of homeland safety, and, he had asked me to forward to him any references to him that I receive, I did what a member of my family asked. I told Dr. K numerous times that I deal with what happens in the newsgroup, period. You have the same position, as far as I know. He stalked me, and he did not like the result. > I was also told that just because a member of one's family is a member > of homeland > security, it absolutely does not give them, or their family members > any special powers > or to intimidate anyone. And, I never claimed otherwise. This is one of your red herrings. Homeland Security directed me to another > federal government > authority after I read them the posts in this thread. Why would you do that? Was it any of your business? > Why would you do that? Was it any of your business? The intimidation factor in this newsgroup is quite apparent. This is a consumer based newsgroup for the discussion of alternative health. It is also well chronicled in the internet about the attempt to control the information that is being presented in newsgroups. The reason it is my business? You made it everyone's business by putting the information out there. No one would have known who your family members were, what you did for a living, if you didn't put it out there. As it would appear you were bragging that your brother n' law was with homeland security in order to frighten individuals from exercising their right to free speech and to keep them from posting. If this was not your intent, please enlighten us with what your intent really was with even mentioning this in the first place. Thank you. > > Why would you do that? Was it any of your business? > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Thank you. Going on unwarranted fishing expeditions into other people's lives can have unpleasant consequences, Debbee. Food for thought. On Apr 19, 12:11 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Going on unwarranted fishing expeditions into other people's lives can > have unpleasant consequences, Debbee. > Food for thought. I do not understand your comments. Please clarify. 1. No one went "fishing." The information was "presented." If no one wanted it to be known, it should not have been put out there. 2. Unpleasant consequences? Is this a veiled threat? Or yet another intimidation tactic? 3. Food for thought? I am not hungry. I'm a consumer posting in an alternative health newsgroup. > On Apr 19, 12:11 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I do not understand your comments. Please clarify. They are pretty clear. Kulacz went on a fishing expedition to see if Mark was a pharma-shill. When he couldn't find any evidence of that, he made some pretty strange comments about Mark being connected to various organizations and individuals. Then he mentioned Marks BIL and now regrets it. I think that is pretty clear. > 1. No one went "fishing." The information was "presented." > If no one wanted it to be known, it should not have been put out > there. > 2. Unpleasant consequences? Is this a veiled threat? Or yet another > intimidation tactic? > 3. Food for thought? I am not hungry. In this context, it is clear that you don't eat enough. > I'm a consumer posting in an alternative health newsgroup. When people stick to the topic instead of trying to go on unwarrented fishing expeditions, things go well. When people target other posters' personal lives simply because they disagree with them, then sh.t happens. Its like the young ones say "Don't start nothing, won't be nothing". Otherwise, if you mess with the bull, you will get the horns. On Apr 19, 4:17 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > On Apr 19, 12:11 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Its like the young ones say "Don't start nothing, won't be nothing". > Otherwise, if you mess with the bull, you will get the horns. You do not know the actual story behind this. After being here for a short time and being constantly attacked and insulted it is clear that you and others do not want to know the facts and history. I could not understand why a newsgroup that was supposed to be an exchange of ideas was so hostile. Now I know why.It is not about exchange of ideas. What I also do know is that your post as well as some others can be perceived as threats. > On Apr 19, 4:17 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Dr. K: I suggest that you contact, IMMEDIATELY, the Internal Affairs Departent of Homeland Security and file a FORMAL COMPLAINT about Mark Probert's obvious threat, and his claims about his brother-in-law's supposed position, and actions. This is the sort of thing you must take seriously - and so will Internal Affairs. You must do this to protect yourself and your family. Watching Probert, I think you should ASSUME that he made outrageous false claims about you to, and through, his brother-in-law. Since Probert is first, and foremost, a sleazy dirtbag, you should proceed accordingly. You may have been put on the same list as Osama Bin Laden - who knows? Cautious in California... Tim Bolen > > On Apr 19, 4:17 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I have made the calls to homeland security and the FBI and they are aware of what transpired. I was assured that any false claims made against me will be dealt with in an appropriate manner and that threats and intimidation are taken very, very seriously. I have had enough false statements against me posted by several internet sites and have dealt with false accusations from Medical insurance companies (which I have been completely cleared of the alledged charges) that prompted me to look into who may have had a motive and the business connections to cause this action to occur in the first place since it DID NOT come from a patient. I call it "American Terrorism" with Americans attacking Americans. Until it personally happens to you it is not something that one would consider possible in The United States of America. > > > On Apr 19, 4:17 pm, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com> > > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I sincerely hope that nothing becomes of this as it serves no constructive purpose. However being reported to homeland security and advised by the FBI that this appeared to be intimidation against me makes me very cautious regarding possible motives. > > - Show quoted text - > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > that this appeared to be intimidation against me > makes me very cautious regarding possible motives. I know you are right!! The good news is that this newsgroup is being watched by a number of people. As law enforcement told me, if anything is happening, put it out in public forum - in the media of some sort. I know you've said that your computer has been hacked into as well as mine has--I refer to it as having a mind of it's own... You know you are being hacked when your computer advises you that you are being kicked off your browser because another user is using it. Just like you know there is something not right in Denmark, when you go to use your telephone, and it keeps hanging up on you, or your cell phone makes strange noises -- and the volume on it gets reduced so that you cannot hear the other party or your cell phone. Your conversations in your home get repeated in bent and twisted fashion on forums such as this one, What people do not realize is that unless they take the battery out of their cell phone that their whereabouts can be traced by individuals with the technology. Hmm..That's something your cell phone company doesn't automatically tell you, and I just learned about. Makes you wonder if these people do not have a life and nosing in on someone else's life gives them cheap thrills! > > > - Show quoted text - > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > someone > else's life gives them cheap thrills! Exactly. That was one of the main reason for my action-a public forum > Exactly. > That was one of the main reason for my action-a public forum I have not invited anyone into my home to harass me, yet I got telephone calls from people I don't even know harassing me about this forum. I do not call your home, come to your home and harass you, and people should have the same respect back for others that post on this forum. I have not invited people into my telephone lines, yet they are there -- hanging up on me when I am talking on the telephone, nosing into my computer. It would appear to be coming from Universities and colleges. Do the students of today or alumni have nothing better to do with their time than use university computers to do their dirty work because they don't think it is traceable back to them? > I call it "American Terrorism" with Americans attacking Americans. > Until it personally happens to you it is not something that one would > consider possible in The United States of America. It's called "control." People thinking that they have some kind of special power in which they feel they have the right to control other's thinking and beliefs. If you want to control something, get a dog! > If you want to control something, get a dog! Forget getting a dog! I have a cat and a dog. . .The cat controls the dog, and they both control me! I definitely have an Alpha Cat, the dog can sometimes hold his own, but alas, I'm at the bottom of the feeding chain. . .;-) > I suggest that you contact, IMMEDIATELY, the Internal Affairs > Departent of Homeland Security and file a FORMAL COMPLAINT about Mark [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > should ASSUME that he made outrageous false claims about you to, and > through, his brother-in-law. People have the misconception that only the people that they know can read the newsgroups, they are open to the world to view any time they want. |
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