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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / April 2008Lies Exposed At The UK MMR Vaccine Trial Court By Jane Bryant
http://whale.to/b/bryant_jayne.html > http://whale.to/b/mary_jane_adventures.html Is this the one where Wakers reveals that he had no clue as to what pediatric research ethics actually involved? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7342618.stm "The doctor who controversially linked the MMR vaccine to autism has admitted a poor grasp of the medical ethics surrounding work on children. " >> http://whale.to/b/mary_jane_adventures.html > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >"The doctor who controversially linked the MMR vaccine to autism has >admitted a poor grasp of the medical ethics surrounding work on children. " "Poor grasp" doesn't quite describe his corruption, does it? Actually, I think that he has a very good grasp of medical ethics but doesn't believe that they apply to him.  SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com >>> http://whale.to/b/mary_jane_adventures.html >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I think that he has a very good grasp of medical ethics but doesn't > believe that they apply to him. Both statements are rather speculative, don't you think? Mind-reading is not a precise science. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > "The doctor who controversially linked the MMR vaccine to autism has > admitted a poor grasp of the medical ethics surrounding work on children. > " Spin, he wasn't in charge of the ethics side, and you can tell it is propaganda as no parent has complained, they all support him 100%, and no other doctor will help these kids they had to pay a journo to make a complaint bit rich talking about ethics when Big Pharma kills a few million every year+ "Most Astonishing Health Disaster of the 20th Century. For over 100 years conventional medicine has seized control of the US health care system and as a result we have over 800,000 people who are killed by interacting with this system. It is likely that over 50 million Americans have died prematurely from this abuse." http://whale.to/a/dean.html and they care about his ethics! My arse! Just an exercise in stopping medical dissent >> "The doctor who controversially linked the MMR vaccine to autism has >> admitted a poor grasp of the medical ethics surrounding work on children. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > bit rich talking about ethics when Big Pharma kills a few million every > year+ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article _id=500611&in_page_id=1774 £500,000 for boy left fighting for life after being used as MMR guinea pig > "Most Astonishing Health Disaster of the 20th Century. For over 100 years > conventional medicine has seized control of the US health care system and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and they care about his ethics! My arse! Just an exercise in stopping > medical dissent > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article _id=500611&in_page_id=1774 > > £500,000 for boy left fighting for life after being used as MMR guinea pig Caused by MMR >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article _id=500611&in_page_id=1774 >> >> £500,000 for boy left fighting for life after being used as MMR guinea >> pig > > Caused by MMR You idiot! Perforations of the colon by poking around in it is not caused by the vaccine. "Jack Piper, then five, was left battling for life after the procedure, which his parents claim was carried out to establish links between his condition and bowel problems. His bowel was perforated in more than 12 places during surgery at the Royal Free Hospital in North London." It was caused by invasive surgery for no good reason. > bowel problems. http://whale.to/a/bowel.html >> bowel problems. > > http://whale.to/a/bowel.html John? The bowel problems were speculative at that point. The autism was the diagnosis, the surgery was to *find* bowel problems -- not *cause* them. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > His bowel was perforated in more than 12 places during surgery at the Royal > Free Hospital in North London." > > It was caused by invasive surgery for no good reason. You're not going to get anywhere with this. As with broken skulls, burns, etc. the perforations were caused by the vaccine and just turned up during surgery. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ >> His bowel was perforated in more than 12 places during surgery at the >> Royal [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > were caused by the vaccine and just turned up during > surgery. Yeah, I know. It is just one way to show the utter idiocy of Scudamore and his JABS buddies (entire threads devoted to them in the BadScience forums: http://badscience.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=3 ). Most recently they are claiming that the sexual orientation of one journalist who has written about Wakefield is an issue. Yet, for some strange reason that same sexual orientation has not "tainted" the writings of David Kirby. Actually, it pretty much shows the total lack of evidence they actually have on vaccine "dangers." > | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | > +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > and they care about his ethics! My arse! Just an exercise in stopping > medical dissent So much for John's ethics. >> and they care about his ethics! My arse! Just an exercise in stopping >> medical dissent > > So much for John's ethics. That's a little harsh. His ethics really aren't on the table since he's not actually practicing. If he sees a Great Evil being practiced (vaccination) and a Hero who takes it on, there's no requirement for the Hero to be unflawed. It may be a bit one-dimensional to think that anyone opposing a Hero is necessarily in league with the Great Evil, but that's not a failure of ethics /per/ /se/ -- more like bad scriptwriting. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > In message > <b348668a-75d6-464d-a43f-31be443fe331@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Mark > Probert wrote: On Apr 13, 4:32 pm, "JOHN" <j...@nospam.com> wrote: > and they care about his ethics! My arse! Just an exercise in stopping > medical dissent So much for John's ethics. So much for Mark S Probert trimming the post to change the meaning. |
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