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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / April 2008What are the best sources of Potassium?
I know about bananas and watermelon (two fruits which have gone through the roof with prices), but what other fruits and vegetables have the highest amount of potassium? I'm taking Lasix, and I don't want to swallow another pill if I can find a way out. Thank you. > I know about bananas and watermelon (two fruits which have gone > through the roof with prices), but what other fruits and vegetables > have the highest amount of potassium? I'm taking Lasix, and I don't > want to swallow another pill if I can find a way out. > > Thank you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [Here is a list of yummy things!] HIGH potassium (more than 225 milligrams per 1/2 c. serving) These foods would be beneficial to athletes or to others who incur heavy fluid loss. Patients on potassium-restricted diets should avoid them, or eat them sparingly, as advised by their nutritionist. All meats, poultry and fish are high in potassium. Apricots (fresh more so than canned) Avocado Banana Cantaloupe Honeydew Kiwi Lima beans Milk Oranges and orange juice Potatoes (can be reduced to moderate by soaking peeled, sliced potatoes overnight before cooking) Prunes Spinach Tomatoes Vegetable juice Winter squash MODERATE (125 - 225 mg per serving) These foods can be a large part of most people's balanced nutrition plan. Persons restricting their potassium might be cautioned to include no more than one or two servings from this list per day, depending on their medical restrictions. Apple juice Asparagus Beets Blackberries Broccoli Carrots Cherries Corn Eggplant Grapefruit Green peas Loose-leaf lettuce Mushrooms, fresh Onions Peach Pears Pineapple Raisins Raspberries Strawberries Summer squash, including zucchini Tangerines Watermelon LOW potassium (less than 125 mg per serving) These foods give less electrolyte value per serving for people who need to increase their potassium levels. They should be a major part of the menu plan for people limiting their intake. Apples Bell peppers Blueberries Cabbage Cranberries Cranberry juice Cucumber Fruit cocktail Grapes Green beans Iceberg lettuce Mandarin oranges, canned Mushrooms Peaches, canned Pineapple, fresh Plums > On Apr 10, 6:41 pm, Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail.com> wrote:> I know about bananas and watermelon (two fruits which have gone > > through the roof with prices), but what other fruits and vegetables [quoted text clipped - 137 lines] > > Plums My brother-in-law is on a Potassium restricted diet, so this is good to know. They will be visiting me in July. My sister gave me a copy of a rather extensive list, but I am woe to find the list right now. I'll see if she can provide me another copy. I remember there was something with potatoes and rice. It's easier for him to handle one than the other - but can't remember which one it was. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > [Here is a list of yummy things!] Thank you---eating a banana every day was getting boring!! And at 89 cents a pound!! Yikes! >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> [Here is a list of yummy things!] > >Thank you---eating a banana every day was getting boring!! And at 89 >cents a pound!! Yikes! 89 cents a pound? Loooxury! You should have a hurricane wipe out well over half of the country's banana plantations when there are very well justified quarantine restrictions on imports. It's a sad day when you have to look next to the caviar and truffles to find bananas.  SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> [Here is a list of yummy things!] [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >It's a sad day when you have to look next to the caviar and truffles >to find bananas. The Lord will never let that happen. I've been told bananas are irrefutable proof of his, sorry, His existence because random mutations would never be able to produce a fruit that so perfectly fits the human hand and is so conveniently packaged. >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> [Here is a list of yummy things!] [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > mutations would never be able to produce a fruit that so perfectly > fits the human hand and is so conveniently packaged. Martin Rady is posting about the *Lord*. But--he does NOT believe in *the Lord* > Martin Rady is posting about the *Lord*. But--he does NOT believe in *the > Lord* Maybe he is having a second coming for the day. Yes, I saw that wonderful video. The Lard sure works in mysterious ways! Praise be! Paolo >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> [Here is a list of yummy things!] [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > mutations would never be able to produce a fruit that so perfectly > fits the human hand and is so conveniently packaged. > I know about bananas and watermelon (two fruits which have gone > through the roof with prices), but what other fruits and vegetables > have the highest amount of potassium? I'm taking Lasix, and I don't > want to swallow another pill if I can find a way out. Morton Lite Salt. | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > > I know about bananas and watermelon (two fruits which have gone > > through the roof with prices), but what other fruits and vegetables > > have the highest amount of potassium? I'm taking Lasix, and I don't > > want to swallow another pill if I can find a way out. > > Morton Lite Salt. That's half (by moles) sodium salt and half potassium salt. Morton salt substitute is pure (except for an anti-caking agent) potassium chloride. Note that the latter has a warning on the label that it should only be used under the advice of a physician. I think both products should have that warning. Both products give me heartbeat irregularities. They were getting to be quite alarming, until I discovered what was causing them. > I think both products should have that warning. > Both products give me heartbeat irregularities. > They were getting to be quite alarming, until I > discovered what was causing them. What is in Lane Medical Library on this subject? >> > I know about bananas and watermelon (two fruits which have gone >> > through the roof with prices), but what other fruits and vegetables [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > They were getting to be quite alarming, until I > discovered what was causing them. Flip side: I leak potassium, so rather than try to make it up at 90 mg per tablet (RDA is 3000 mg, to put it in perspective) I use the KCl. Recent presurgical bloodwork showed me low, if not dangerously, on potassium. The evening prior, I just salted a dinner heavy on potatoes to a fare-thee-well and the next day, just to be safe, the anaesthesiologist ordered another workup. I was dead on normal. Potassium is normally well regulated, but it's also dangerous in overdose. (NB: it's used for euthanasia. Marvelous example of "the dose makes the poison.) | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > Flip side: I leak potassium, so rather than try to > make it up at 90 mg per tablet (RDA is 3000 mg, to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > next day, just to be safe, the anaesthesiologist > ordered another workup. I was dead on normal. I've never been a salt shaker queen -- sans some good homegrown ta- metters! I don't like the lite stuff and the salt substitute is pukey. I generally use lemon instead of salt. Olive oil instead of butter,--and lots of garlic. I was low on potassium this week---but before starting the lasix I was on the high normal side, but I just don't want to get out of of the normal range. I have two more weeks to go of vampire 1 A and 1B, if I can get it to the mid normal range on food, she will let me pass on the supplement, if not, it is another pill to swallow..... > Flip side: I leak potassium, so rather than try to > make it up at 90 mg per tablet (RDA is 3000 mg, to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > euthanasia. Marvelous example of "the dose makes > the poison.) Nutrients can certainly be toxic in extreme ranges of over supplementation. But "dose makes the poison" is a gross over simplification when applied to pharmaceuticals, as those substances have toxic effects even in the doses prescribed. If that were not true, there would be no such thing as drug side effects. So Paracelsus dictum is a little outdated. : That's half (by moles) sodium salt and half potassium salt. : Morton salt substitute is pure (except for an anti-caking agent) : potassium chloride. Note that the latter has a warning on : the label that it should only be used under the advice of a : physician. Well, KCl *is* one of the ingredients in the cocktail given to people sentenced to capital punishment by lethal injection. . . ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- There's something I must tell you, there's something I must say: The only really perfect love is one that gets away. > I know about bananas and watermelon (two fruits which have gone > through the roof with prices), but what other fruits and vegetables > have the highest amount of potassium? I'm taking Lasix, and I > don't want to swallow another pill if I can find a way out. > > Thank you. I believe avocados have the most potassium of any fruit. I try to eat at least one every week, which isn't hard because it's my favorite. And a particular brand of molasses (name eludes me), that has something like 850mg in a single tablespoon, which I think is the highest natural K+ content you will find anywhere in such a small unit of measure. > I believe avocados have the most potassium of any fruit. I try to eat > at least one every week, which isn't hard because it's my favorite. > And a particular brand of molasses (name eludes me), that has > something like 850mg in a single tablespoon, which I think is the > highest natural K+ content you will find anywhere in such a small unit > of measure. The real measure is mg/calorie -- avocados are high in fat so getting much potassium from them has problems (not that a bit of guacamole isn't great stuff: get some potassium, good fatty acids, and vitamin C all at once -- and my, oh, my it tastes good.) | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > In message <91477e70-b79c-4e5e-8043-6de3a01c3...@p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, PeterB wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > some potassium, good fatty acids, and vitamin C all > at once -- and my, oh, my it tastes good.) No need to worry about the fat in avocados -- it's the quality of fat, not the quantity, that matters. Eat a whole one every day if you like. >> In message <91477e70-b79c-4e5e-8043-6de3a01c3...@p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, PeterB wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > not the quantity, that matters. Eat a whole one every day if you > like. Quantity has a quality all its own. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > In message <34257c76-1bf4-474c-9ee1-e8c9205e0...@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, PeterB wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Quantity has a quality all its own. I'm just saying the body can handle a fairly broad range of quality fat safely. If more than 20% of one's caloric intake is from fat, even that may not be an issue, as it depends on one's genetics and lifestyle factors. Eskimos, for example, need a minimum 40% of calories from fat or they become diseased. For some people, the figure might be 20% or lower. But it's the trans fat in fast foods and packaged meals, not avocados, that represent the real threat to one's health. >> In message <34257c76-1bf4-474c-9ee1-e8c9205e0...@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, PeterB wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > and packaged meals, not avocados, that represent the real threat to > one's health. As a percentage, I have no disagreement. On the other hand, getting much of your potassium from avocados is going to run your total fat intake (and thus caloric intake) up a good bit. Substituting some potatos isn't a bad idea: plenty of potassium, loads of vitamin C, and quite a bit of other nutrient goodness. Add some dairy and you have a fairly complete, if less than ideal, diet. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > I know about bananas and watermelon (two fruits which have gone > through the roof with prices), but what other fruits and vegetables > have the highest amount of potassium? I'm taking Lasix, and I don't > want to swallow another pill if I can find a way out. > > Thank you. The very highest source of potassium is cream of tartar which is a by-product of wine making. Its some sort of sediment which forms on the side of wine barrels. Cream of tartar is very very high in potassium. Carole www.cellsalts.net > The very highest source of potassium is cream of tartar which is a > by-product of wine making. > Its some sort of sediment which forms on the side of wine barrels. > Cream of tartar is very very high in potassium. How does it compare to potassium chloride? | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > > The very highest source of potassium is cream of tartar which is a > > by-product of wine making. > > Its some sort of sediment which forms on the side of wine barrels. > > Cream of tartar is very very high in potassium. > > How does it compare to potassium chloride? Apart from potassium chloride, people need potassium phosphate and potassium sulphate. I don't quite know how it works, but wouldn't potassium chloride result in excess of chloride? Cream of tartar is very strong. I used to take a bottle of 100 tablets with 495mg of chelated potassium in them, roughly a bottle a week. However, they discontinued this product and I had to find a substitute, then I tried cream of tartar. It is about as strong as the chelated tablets I used to take, and they were the strongest tablets I could find. Carole www.cellsalts.net >> In message <48009739$0$14241$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, > Carole wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I don't quite know how it works, but wouldn't potassium chloride result in > excess of chloride? Phosphorus, chlorine, and sulphur are available from multiple sources and are all managed by the body. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ :> Apart from potassium chloride, people need potassium phosphate and potassium :> sulphate. : Phosphorus, chlorine, and sulphur are available from : multiple sources and are all managed by the body. Most of the sulfur in the body is not in the form of sulfate, as I am sure that you are aware, even if Carole cannot understand why that is so. ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- There's something I must tell you, there's something I must say: The only really perfect love is one that gets away. > :> Apart from potassium chloride, people need potassium phosphate and potassium > :> sulphate. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Most of the sulfur in the body is not in the form of sulfate, as I am > sure that you are aware, even if Carole cannot understand why that is so. I'm even aware that sulfate ion in water supplies is rather strictly monitored by the EPA. The body handles it well enough, but you can go your whole life without and no harm done. | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > >> In message <48009739$0$14241$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, > > Carole wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Phosphorus, chlorine, and sulphur are available from > multiple sources and are all managed by the body. Phosphorus, so I've heard, is made up of 5 phosphates - iron, magnesium, calcium, sodium and potassium phosphates. I would imagine if a person took a lot of phosphorus they would eventually become deficient in chlorine and sulphur, right? Silica too. Carole www.cellsalts.net > -- > | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | > +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ : Phosphorus, so I've heard, is made up of 5 phosphates - iron, magnesium, : calcium, sodium and potassium phosphates. You have it exactly backwards: phosphorus is one of the components of a phosphate. : I would imagine if a person took a lot of phosphorus they would eventually : become deficient in chlorine and sulphur, right? Wrong. : Silica too. Very, very unlikely. ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad." >> In message <4803a3d4$0$30952$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, >Carole wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Phosphorus, so I've heard, is made up of 5 phosphates - iron, magnesium, >calcium, sodium and potassium phosphates. You may have heard that, but it's bullshit. Phosporus is an element. Carole, when are you going to learn some basic science? This is becoming embarassing. >I would imagine if a person took a lot of phosphorus they would eventually >become deficient in chlorine and sulphur, right? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> | sh.t happens. Sometimes it happens to you. | >> +--- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---+ > The very highest source of potassium is cream of tartar which is a > by-product of wine making. > Its some sort of sediment which forms on the side of wine barrels. > Cream of tartar is very very high in potassium. Yes, but gram-for-gram Morton salt substitute (or other similar salt substitutes) contains more potassium. And it is just as natural (they are both the result of man-made processes, hence not natural at all). > Yes, but gram-for-gram Morton salt substitute > (or other similar salt substitutes) contains > more potassium. And it is just as natural > (they are both the result of man-made processes, > hence not natural at all). salt substitute is GROSS tasting. Yikes. > > Yes, but gram-for-gram Morton salt substitute > > (or other similar salt substitutes) contains [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > salt substitute is GROSS tasting. Yikes. Believe it or not, i've never tried one. When I learned I was slightly hypertensive (140/88) I measured my sodium intake for one month and found it to be even less than the RDA. I did some digging and found a Lancet study on the effects of vit C in a group of hypertensive male subjects. Overall, their systolic numbers came down 11% taking 500mg ascorbic acid daily. I decided to try it and it worked. I knocked off 20 pts and never worry about sodium. > > The very highest source of potassium is cream of tartar which is a > > by-product of wine making. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > (they are both the result of man-made processes, > hence not natural at all). Sorry I don't know morton salt or what it contains. We have different products here in Oz. Cream of tartar is made of potassium hydrogen tartrate and it is very strong, and cheap. It is as strong as any potassium tablets you can buy, it is concentrated potassium. However, the warning is that if you take a lot of potassium, you can become deficient in other cellsalts - sodium, calcium etc. A working knowledge of cellsalts is good to recognise deficiencies that develop and correct them. Carole www.cellsalts.net What, pray tell, is wrong with Lasix? Works a treat for me. Paolo > I know about bananas and watermelon (two fruits which have gone > through the roof with prices), but what other fruits and vegetables > have the highest amount of potassium? I'm taking Lasix, and I don't > want to swallow another pill if I can find a way out. > > Thank you. |
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