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useneta@gmail.com - 10 Apr 2008 16:41 GMT
I wish you comfort and peace.

I am interested in knowing about herbs, minerals, yogic, psychic aids
to fighting testicular cancer.
I am interested in all those ways, by which, one can stop and/or cure
testicular cancer without compromising one's and/or anyone else's
comfort and peace.

I appreciate your reading this. Please do not hesitate to reply
directly to me at my email address.
monty1945@lycos.com - 10 Apr 2008 22:37 GMT
It's being "fueled" by arachidonic acid metabolites and possibly other
toxic molecules derived from dietary sources (such as the HCAs
generated from cooking meat with PUFA-rich oils).  It's easy to deal
with in terms of prevention, but once you "cross the bridge" there's
no way to know exactly what to do, and in what order to do it.  I know
what I'd do, but then I'm not likely to have that problem in the first
place, so it's a scientifically unreasonable hypothetical.
useneta@gmail.com - 10 Apr 2008 22:50 GMT
On Apr 10, 4:37 pm, monty1...@lycos.com wrote:
> It's being "fueled" by arachidonic acid metabolites and possibly other
> toxic molecules derived from dietary sources (such as the HCAs
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> what I'd do, but then I'm not likely to have that problem in the first
> place, so it's a scientifically unreasonable hypothetical.

I am assuming that since female hormones are used to treat testicular
cancer, hence, taking foods and/or herbs rich in those hormones along
with the medication may be likely to further enhance the treatment and/
or cure. I invite: ideas, suggestions, questions, comments etc.
Taka - 11 Apr 2008 02:38 GMT
On Apr 11, 6:50 am, usen...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 10, 4:37 pm, monty1...@lycos.com wrote:
>
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> with the medication may be likely to further enhance the treatment and/
> or cure. I invite: ideas, suggestions, questions, comments etc.

Only if the cancer is androgen-driven.  Generally, female hormones
like estrogen fuel cancerous growth and dedifferentiation if not
opposed by progesterone.  If the cancer has not spread yet by
metastasis you may get rid of it just by changing the lifestyle and
nutrition (e.g. as described in the book "Lights Out").  Avoiding
Omega-6 PUFAs will also reduce PGE2 which helps cancers to evade the
host immune system via TREGs.  If you got metastatic cancer the war
starts with cutting off its food supply which is sugar/carbohydrates.
Then you may "feed" it high doses of intravenous vitamin C which is
basically a sugar and cap it with some Omega-3 fatty acids to trigger
apoptosis (remember, if you want to kill something give it what it
wants in EXCESS...).  Cancer cells compete with the stem cells in the
body so any cancer treatment will also affect your stem cells.  But
the cancer cells carry chaotic mutations (which are not selected by
millions of years of evolution) which make them less likely to survive
starvation and chemotherapy treatments.  The most gentle chemotherapy
is that with the natural "antioxidants" which is also least damaging
to the non-cancerous stem cells.

Taka
Steph - 11 Apr 2008 08:31 GMT
> On Apr 10, 4:37 pm, monty1...@lycos.com wrote:
>> It's being "fueled" by arachidonic acid metabolites and possibly other
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I am assuming that since female hormones are used to treat testicular
> cancer,

Er..........no they aren't
ironjustice - 11 Apr 2008 03:53 GMT
On Apr 10, 8:41 am, usen...@gmail.com wrote:stop and/or cure
testicular cancer <<

http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi39.html

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Curr Med Chem 2003 Jun;10(12):1021-34

The role of iron chelation in cancer therapy.

Buss JL, Torti FM, Torti SV
Drug Discovery Chemistry, Actelion Pharmaceuticals Ltd.,
Gewerbestrasse 16,
CH-4123 Allschwil / BL, Switzerland. christoph.b...@actelion.com and
christoph.bink...@actelion.com

[Medline record in process]

This review focuses on advances and strategies in the use of iron
chelators as
anti-tumor therapies. Although the development of iron chelators for
human
disease has focused primarily on their use in the treatment of
secondary iron
overload, chelators may also be useful anti-tumor agents. They can
deplete iron
or cause oxidative stress in the tumor due to redox perturbations in
its
environment. Iron chelators have been tested for their anti-tumor
activity in
cell culture experiments, animal models and human clinical trials.
Largely for
pragmatic reasons, clinical studies of the anti-tumor activity of
iron
chelators have generally focused on desferrioxamine (DFO), a drug
approved for
the treatment of iron overload. These studies have shown that DFO can
retard
tumor growth in many different experimental contexts. However, the
activity of
DFO is modest, and advances in the use of chelators as anti-cancer
agents will
require the development of new chelators based on new paradigms.
Examples of
iron chelators that have shown promising anti-tumor activity (in
various stages
of development) include heterocyclic carboxaldehyde
thiosemicarbazones, analogs
of pyridoxal isonicotinoyl hydrazone, tachpyridine, O-trensox,
desferrithiocin,
and other natural and synthetic chelators. Apart from their use as
single
agents, chelators may also synergize with other anti-cancer therapies.
The
development of chelators as anticancer agents is largely an unexplored
field,
but one with extraordinary potential to impact human cancer.

PMID: 12678674, UI: 22565600

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Tom

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> I wish you comfort and peace.
>
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> I appreciate your reading this. Please do not hesitate to reply
> directly to me at my email address.
RuF - 11 Apr 2008 04:13 GMT
> I wish you comfort and peace.
>
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> I appreciate your reading this. Please do not hesitate to reply
> directly to me at my email address.

Here is a very good article on the subject:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/testicular-cancer/DS00046

and a lesser one from Dr Weil:

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA400182

Remember Lance Armstrong?  He cured himself of this cancer,
so cheer up
and be determined to conquer it. Mind over matter!

Do a search using  [ "Lance Armstrong" +cancer ] without the
[ ] brackets
and you'll get a wealth of hits and his story.

Good luck and good health to you.

RuF
David Wright - 11 Apr 2008 05:16 GMT
>> I wish you comfort and peace.
>>
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>so cheer up
>and be determined to conquer it. Mind over matter!

"He cured himself of this cancer?"  He had two surgeries and four
rounds of chemotherapy.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "There are two kinds of Republicans:  millionaires and suckers."
                                                     -- John Dolan
Steph - 11 Apr 2008 08:32 GMT
>>> I wish you comfort and peace.
>>>
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> "He cured himself of this cancer?"  He had two surgeries and four
> rounds of chemotherapy.

ANd radiotherapy to his brain...........

>  -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
>     These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
>     "There are two kinds of Republicans:  millionaires and suckers."
>                                                      -- John Dolan
csm7532@hotmail.com - 11 Apr 2008 14:20 GMT
> > In article <xHALj.3274$vF...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>,
> >>usen...@gmail.com wrote:
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>
> ANd radiotherapy to his brain...........

But he *chose* to have all that done, just as the saner among us have
chosen to follow the recommendations of qualified professionals.  So,
in a roundabout, awkward way, you can very well say Armstrong *did*
cure himself.  I don't think anyone's taking this thread too
seriously, anyway.  Cancer wants sugar, so starve it of sugar, but
vitamin C is basically sugar, so take a lot of vitamin C
intravenously, because you should always give the target lots of what
it wants, since that will kill it, and don't forget to use your
supernatural powers to fight the cancer as well; after all, Jesus was
a vegetarian, and you never hear *him* complaining about testicular
cancer.
All we're missing here is some poor schmuck who's been systematically
attacked by the House of Lords conspiring with his doctor.  And maybe
an onion or two.
I encourage *real* testicular cancer patients to take a page from
Armstrong's book.  Listen to the professionals' advice, not some fith
loonies', and expect to have some bad experiences before your likely
cure.

---
CSM
J - 11 Apr 2008 22:49 GMT
> "David Wright" <wright@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote in message
> >>
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>
> ANd radiotherapy to his brain...........

Apparently not.
<
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_4x_The_Lance_Armstrong_Story.a
sp?rnav=cri


"He also had surgery to remove 2 brain metastases (no radiation was given
because of the concern that it also would affect his balance or
coordination)."
J
monty1945@lycos.com - 12 Apr 2008 00:09 GMT
One has to decide what the goal is, to avoid or "cure" cancer.  If
cancer incidence could be lowered to next to nothing (for those under
age 100 at least), then there's really no reason to talk about curing
cancer.  It's like talking about how to avoid being struck by
lightning - not much to talk about - better off moving on to more
important things.
Steph - 12 Apr 2008 07:57 GMT
> One has to decide what the goal is, to avoid or "cure" cancer.  If
> cancer incidence could be lowered to next to nothing (for those under
> age 100 at least), then there's really no reason to talk about curing
> cancer.  It's like talking about how to avoid being struck by
> lightning - not much to talk about - better off moving on to more
> important things.

As the lifetime risk of invasive cancer is 1 in 3, and as cancer is
generally a disease of old age, and as the average life expectancy is going
up, I think the chances of cancer incidence being lowered to next to nothing
is zero
Hawki - 12 Apr 2008 09:14 GMT
> One has to decide what the goal is, to avoid or "cure" cancer.  If
> cancer incidence could be lowered to next to nothing (for those under
> age 100 at least), then there's really no reason to talk about curing
> cancer.  It's like talking about how to avoid being struck by
> lightning - not much to talk about - better off moving on to more
> important things.

when you come up with an "avoidance strategy...no...one that really
works"...please share
Steph - 12 Apr 2008 07:55 GMT
>> "David Wright" <wright@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote in message
>> >>
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> coordination)."
> J

I believe that's incorrect, but I haven't asked Lance...........
J - 12 Apr 2008 09:54 GMT
> "J" <xnswex@nalid;"no> wrote in message
> >
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>
> I believe that's incorrect, but I haven't asked Lance...........

http://www.acor.org/TCRC/lance.html
Over lunch we discussed his Testicular Cancer (TC) experience and subsequent treatments, as well
as his newly created cancer foundation and upcoming charity bike ride "The Race for the Roses"
March 23d, 1997

60% choriocarcinoma, 40% embryonal, and less than 1% teratoma.

One 3 week cycle of BEP here in Austin...outpatient...then I went to MD Anderson and then to
Indiana University...I had the brain operation there the Thursday prior to my next chemo cycle
and then started that the following Monday with 3 more cycles of VIP. The last VIP (chemos) were
inpatient...cycles 3 and 4 I was sick as a dog, but I didn't lose any weight.

Tell me about the brain operation...

  They (IU) do a pretty good job of making you comfortable....the lesions are small, they're
easy to get to, and I thought well, that's great, it could be worse, they could be big and
inoperable. They were saying this was a relatively "minor" brain operation and they do this every
day, I'm not gonna have a lot of pain, your risks aren't too great...but then as time got closer
and closer to the operation I'm saying "You guys said this is pretty minor, right?" and they
started saying "Weeelll, there's really no such thing as a minor brain operation" I was like
"Well, wait a minute! You said it was minor!", but they were wonderful (the staff at IU).

Can you describe the actual operation? What'd they do, take a piece out?

  They pull it off, they cut a hole, see? (Lance bowed his head to show 2 circular scars, 1 at
the top, the other in the center/back of his head, both approximately the size of silver
dollars.) They pull the bone off much like you would the top off a pumpkin, then they pull back
the protective layer and the tumor's there...they locate it through "frameless stereo-tactics",
they put these nodes all over my forehead then they have a wand and touch each electrode that
will produce an image of your brain on this video screen, and then they know exactly where it
is...that takes the longest time, trying to locate it.

  Then they drill these things into your head to steady it...you're unconscious the whole time,
about 5 or 6 hours--it was not fun,
 
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