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Testicular cancer
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useneta@gmail.com - 10 Apr 2008 16:41 GMT I wish you comfort and peace.
I am interested in knowing about herbs, minerals, yogic, psychic aids to fighting testicular cancer. I am interested in all those ways, by which, one can stop and/or cure testicular cancer without compromising one's and/or anyone else's comfort and peace.
I appreciate your reading this. Please do not hesitate to reply directly to me at my email address.
monty1945@lycos.com - 10 Apr 2008 22:37 GMT It's being "fueled" by arachidonic acid metabolites and possibly other toxic molecules derived from dietary sources (such as the HCAs generated from cooking meat with PUFA-rich oils). It's easy to deal with in terms of prevention, but once you "cross the bridge" there's no way to know exactly what to do, and in what order to do it. I know what I'd do, but then I'm not likely to have that problem in the first place, so it's a scientifically unreasonable hypothetical.
useneta@gmail.com - 10 Apr 2008 22:50 GMT On Apr 10, 4:37 pm, monty1...@lycos.com wrote:
> It's being "fueled" by arachidonic acid metabolites and possibly other > toxic molecules derived from dietary sources (such as the HCAs [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > what I'd do, but then I'm not likely to have that problem in the first > place, so it's a scientifically unreasonable hypothetical. I am assuming that since female hormones are used to treat testicular cancer, hence, taking foods and/or herbs rich in those hormones along with the medication may be likely to further enhance the treatment and/ or cure. I invite: ideas, suggestions, questions, comments etc.
Taka - 11 Apr 2008 02:38 GMT On Apr 11, 6:50 am, usen...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Apr 10, 4:37 pm, monty1...@lycos.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > with the medication may be likely to further enhance the treatment and/ > or cure. I invite: ideas, suggestions, questions, comments etc. Only if the cancer is androgen-driven. Generally, female hormones like estrogen fuel cancerous growth and dedifferentiation if not opposed by progesterone. If the cancer has not spread yet by metastasis you may get rid of it just by changing the lifestyle and nutrition (e.g. as described in the book "Lights Out"). Avoiding Omega-6 PUFAs will also reduce PGE2 which helps cancers to evade the host immune system via TREGs. If you got metastatic cancer the war starts with cutting off its food supply which is sugar/carbohydrates. Then you may "feed" it high doses of intravenous vitamin C which is basically a sugar and cap it with some Omega-3 fatty acids to trigger apoptosis (remember, if you want to kill something give it what it wants in EXCESS...). Cancer cells compete with the stem cells in the body so any cancer treatment will also affect your stem cells. But the cancer cells carry chaotic mutations (which are not selected by millions of years of evolution) which make them less likely to survive starvation and chemotherapy treatments. The most gentle chemotherapy is that with the natural "antioxidants" which is also least damaging to the non-cancerous stem cells.
Taka
Steph - 11 Apr 2008 08:31 GMT > On Apr 10, 4:37 pm, monty1...@lycos.com wrote: >> It's being "fueled" by arachidonic acid metabolites and possibly other [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I am assuming that since female hormones are used to treat testicular > cancer, Er..........no they aren't
ironjustice - 11 Apr 2008 03:53 GMT On Apr 10, 8:41 am, usen...@gmail.com wrote:stop and/or cure testicular cancer <<
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> I wish you comfort and peace. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I appreciate your reading this. Please do not hesitate to reply > directly to me at my email address. RuF - 11 Apr 2008 04:13 GMT > I wish you comfort and peace. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I appreciate your reading this. Please do not hesitate to reply > directly to me at my email address. Here is a very good article on the subject:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/testicular-cancer/DS00046
and a lesser one from Dr Weil:
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA400182
Remember Lance Armstrong? He cured himself of this cancer, so cheer up and be determined to conquer it. Mind over matter!
Do a search using [ "Lance Armstrong" +cancer ] without the [ ] brackets and you'll get a wealth of hits and his story.
Good luck and good health to you.
RuF
David Wright - 11 Apr 2008 05:16 GMT >> I wish you comfort and peace. >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >so cheer up >and be determined to conquer it. Mind over matter! "He cured himself of this cancer?" He had two surgeries and four rounds of chemotherapy.
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers." -- John Dolan
Steph - 11 Apr 2008 08:32 GMT >>> I wish you comfort and peace. >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > "He cured himself of this cancer?" He had two surgeries and four > rounds of chemotherapy. ANd radiotherapy to his brain...........
> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net > These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. > "There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers." > -- John Dolan csm7532@hotmail.com - 11 Apr 2008 14:20 GMT > > In article <xHALj.3274$vF...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>, > >>usen...@gmail.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > ANd radiotherapy to his brain........... But he *chose* to have all that done, just as the saner among us have chosen to follow the recommendations of qualified professionals. So, in a roundabout, awkward way, you can very well say Armstrong *did* cure himself. I don't think anyone's taking this thread too seriously, anyway. Cancer wants sugar, so starve it of sugar, but vitamin C is basically sugar, so take a lot of vitamin C intravenously, because you should always give the target lots of what it wants, since that will kill it, and don't forget to use your supernatural powers to fight the cancer as well; after all, Jesus was a vegetarian, and you never hear *him* complaining about testicular cancer. All we're missing here is some poor schmuck who's been systematically attacked by the House of Lords conspiring with his doctor. And maybe an onion or two. I encourage *real* testicular cancer patients to take a page from Armstrong's book. Listen to the professionals' advice, not some fith loonies', and expect to have some bad experiences before your likely cure.
--- CSM
J - 11 Apr 2008 22:49 GMT > "David Wright" <wright@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote in message > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ANd radiotherapy to his brain........... Apparently not. < http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_4x_The_Lance_Armstrong_Story.a sp?rnav=cri
"He also had surgery to remove 2 brain metastases (no radiation was given because of the concern that it also would affect his balance or coordination)." J
monty1945@lycos.com - 12 Apr 2008 00:09 GMT One has to decide what the goal is, to avoid or "cure" cancer. If cancer incidence could be lowered to next to nothing (for those under age 100 at least), then there's really no reason to talk about curing cancer. It's like talking about how to avoid being struck by lightning - not much to talk about - better off moving on to more important things.
Steph - 12 Apr 2008 07:57 GMT > One has to decide what the goal is, to avoid or "cure" cancer. If > cancer incidence could be lowered to next to nothing (for those under > age 100 at least), then there's really no reason to talk about curing > cancer. It's like talking about how to avoid being struck by > lightning - not much to talk about - better off moving on to more > important things. As the lifetime risk of invasive cancer is 1 in 3, and as cancer is generally a disease of old age, and as the average life expectancy is going up, I think the chances of cancer incidence being lowered to next to nothing is zero
Hawki - 12 Apr 2008 09:14 GMT > One has to decide what the goal is, to avoid or "cure" cancer. If > cancer incidence could be lowered to next to nothing (for those under > age 100 at least), then there's really no reason to talk about curing > cancer. It's like talking about how to avoid being struck by > lightning - not much to talk about - better off moving on to more > important things. when you come up with an "avoidance strategy...no...one that really works"...please share
Steph - 12 Apr 2008 07:55 GMT >> "David Wright" <wright@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote in message >> >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > coordination)." > J I believe that's incorrect, but I haven't asked Lance...........
J - 12 Apr 2008 09:54 GMT > "J" <xnswex@nalid;"no> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > I believe that's incorrect, but I haven't asked Lance........... http://www.acor.org/TCRC/lance.html Over lunch we discussed his Testicular Cancer (TC) experience and subsequent treatments, as well as his newly created cancer foundation and upcoming charity bike ride "The Race for the Roses" March 23d, 1997
60% choriocarcinoma, 40% embryonal, and less than 1% teratoma.
One 3 week cycle of BEP here in Austin...outpatient...then I went to MD Anderson and then to Indiana University...I had the brain operation there the Thursday prior to my next chemo cycle and then started that the following Monday with 3 more cycles of VIP. The last VIP (chemos) were inpatient...cycles 3 and 4 I was sick as a dog, but I didn't lose any weight.
Tell me about the brain operation...
They (IU) do a pretty good job of making you comfortable....the lesions are small, they're easy to get to, and I thought well, that's great, it could be worse, they could be big and inoperable. They were saying this was a relatively "minor" brain operation and they do this every day, I'm not gonna have a lot of pain, your risks aren't too great...but then as time got closer and closer to the operation I'm saying "You guys said this is pretty minor, right?" and they started saying "Weeelll, there's really no such thing as a minor brain operation" I was like "Well, wait a minute! You said it was minor!", but they were wonderful (the staff at IU).
Can you describe the actual operation? What'd they do, take a piece out?
They pull it off, they cut a hole, see? (Lance bowed his head to show 2 circular scars, 1 at the top, the other in the center/back of his head, both approximately the size of silver dollars.) They pull the bone off much like you would the top off a pumpkin, then they pull back the protective layer and the tumor's there...they locate it through "frameless stereo-tactics", they put these nodes all over my forehead then they have a wand and touch each electrode that will produce an image of your brain on this video screen, and then they know exactly where it is...that takes the longest time, trying to locate it.
Then they drill these things into your head to steady it...you're unconscious the whole time, about 5 or 6 hours--it was not fun,
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