The following is a retraction statement that Mark Thorson has posted to
various
newsgroups:
Subject: Retraction of Anatoxin-a Primer
During the last several years, I have from time to time posted to this
and
other newsgroups a file of information called "An Anatoxin-a Primer." I
now
retract the statements made in the Anatoxin-a Primer.
The Anatoxin-a Primer implied that Super Blue Green Algae from Klamath
Lake,
produced by Cell Tech, contains anatoxin-a (a neurotoxin I
characterized as
addictive), and that Cell Tech deliberately avoids testing for this
toxin
because anatoxin-a is responsible for the effects reported by SBGA
users. I
have since been advised that Cell Tech conducts regular tests that
would
disclose anatoxin-a, and that this toxin has never been found in Super
Blue
Green Algae. I had no basis for the suggestions I made in the
Anatoxin-a
Primer, and I hereby retract it in full.
Mis-state
to state incorrectly : give a false account of
False
intentionally untrue
lie
untrue with intent to deceive
===========
Having no basis is L Y I N G!
As for Mark Probert, he ia a DISBARRED ATTORNEY.
Your further lies are also noted.
LIAR.
YOU REPEATEDLY LIED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
>I merely posted the URL
>to a database that had your PUBLIC information in it, the
>same information anyone could have found in a phone book.
Wrong.
>The URL to a database is:
>http://www.switchboard.com
>At the top of that page is says:
>Telephone Directory.
In that posting, you posted a link that says at the top Switchboard *People
Results*
>I did not, otherwise a Google search on my name and this
>newsgroup for "Bryant" would turn up such a posting.
Can it Mark. Anyone can clearly see this Byrant things is just another
dirty
trick of yours.
You are a liar and you know it.
> At the time
>I posted it, three J. Drew's showed up in Bloomington,
Well now.
That was a people's results page and NOT the URLto a database that had your
PUBLIC information.
You went to the datebase, then you posted the results AFTER you did the
searching.
Now to prove the total liar, you are. You see Mark liars are sooner or later
exposed. Today is your day, and most likely you won't learn, that your
bringing
it up over and over, is a problem with you.
My asterisks added.
From: Mark Thorson (nos...@sonic.net)
Subject: Re: Admitting when one is wrong
View this article only
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Date: 2002-05-26 21:30:10 PST
Karuna wrote:
> Is this what happened?
> Mark (Thorson): In July 2001, someone suggested to you, here on mha,
> that
> another poster was most likely female and also might be apprehensive
> about
> being harrassed by others on the 'net. You responded by posting a linked
> access to several names and phone numbers, one of which might be that
> person, thereby *inviting* such harrassment.
> Is that true?
**"Inviting" is your characterization, but I did post
the link to switchboard.com, which was a simple
search that yielded several names, any or none
of which could have been Jan, which came from
a public database.***
**And if Jan had said it that way, I would not have disputed the accuracy of
what she said, except in the area of intent.
*** It was more of an impulse***
decision, triggered by the previous posting in the thread
***It was as though a finger-shaped holes suddenly appeared in front of
me.**
****I couldn't resist sticking my finger in it.****
At the time, it didn'tseem like a big deal, because it was just like
calling up information on the phone. But I see now that it doesn't look any
different than encouraging harassment, so I agree that I shouldn't have done
it.
On this one point, Jan, I apologize. I do not wish any third party to
harass
you.
===
Mark Thorson
Sep 12 2004, 8:35 pm
You said I posted your address. Not true.
You said I posted search results. Not true.
For me to be a liar, there must have been a LIE.
YEARS LATER, YOU ARE STILL LYING!
Mark Thorson - 05 Apr 2008 23:54 GMT
What statement did I ever make about Cell Tech or
their products is a lie? The retraction does not
say any of my statements were false, much less
a lie.
I've asked you before, and you have never been
able to show me even one statement I made about
Cell Tech which is untrue, much less a lie.
When you accuse me of lying, that is a false
accusation. If you dispute that, kindly quote
one of these lies you claim I told.
You won't do that. And I know why you won't
do that. It is because you can't.
Jan Drew - 06 Apr 2008 04:11 GMT
> The following is a retraction statement that Mark Thorson has posted to
> various
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>
> YEARS LATER, YOU ARE STILL LYING!
Mark Thorson - 06 Apr 2008 07:59 GMT
What statement did I ever make about Cell Tech or
their products is a lie? The retraction does not
say any of my statements were false, much less
a lie.
I've asked you before, and you have never been
able to show me even one statement I made about
Cell Tech which is untrue, much less a lie.
When you accuse me of lying, that is a false
accusation. If you dispute that, kindly quote
one of these lies you claim I told.
You won't do that. And I know why you won't
do that. It is because you can't.
Frank - 11 Apr 2008 18:09 GMT
> I've asked you before, and you have never been
> able to show me even one statement I made about
> Cell Tech which is untrue, much less a lie.
Has anyone shown that Jan Drew and Ilena Rosenthal are not the same
person?
Mark Probert - 11 Apr 2008 20:00 GMT
> > I've asked you before, and you have never been
> > able to show me even one statement I made about
> > Cell Tech which is untrue, much less a lie.
>
> Has anyone shown that Jan Drew and Ilena Rosenthal are not the same
> person?
When they made Ilena, they broke the mold.
Jan Drew - 12 Apr 2008 01:19 GMT
On Apr 11, 1:09 pm, Frank <fmerri...@nycny.net> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 7:55 pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Has anyone shown that Jan Drew and Ilena Rosenthal are not the same
> person?
When they made Ilena, they broke the mold.
==
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/966a985371a2cc4b
Mar 15 2006
I will no longer engage in negative
behavior toward her for the reasons I previously posted.
This is O V E R.
==
*A snide remark deserves scorn.* Mark S Probert Merrick, NY
*I read Torah everday* Mark S Probert Merrick, NY
Mark Thorson - 12 Apr 2008 03:15 GMT
Here's another example of Jan Drew lying:
Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
I have stated nothing about the Catholic faith.
----- statements about Catholics from Jan's earlier postings -----
Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040922214509.08241.00000819%40mb-m10.aol.com
Absolutley no bigotry, no act, nor any of the desperate accusations.
Eric, do show us where we are instructed to pray to saints. Where did
this belief come from?
It is a man made rule and the work of Satan, placing saints before Jesus
Christ.
Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040922212212.08241.00000817%40mb-m10.aol.com
The truth that praying to saints doesn't come from God, is in not way a
bigot, nor prejudice.
It is simply the truth.
Jan
Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040602133702.13763.00000187%40mb-m27.aol.com
Praying to saints comes from man, not God, and indeed comes from Satan.
Jan
Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040525010815.13455.00001025%40mb-m06.aol.com
I personally think the
Catholics have done many things wrong.
Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20031128180805.08361.00001014%40mb-m24.aol.com
There's a huge mistake. NOWHERE is man instructed to pray to
ANYONE OTHER THAN
GOD THROUGH JESUS HIS SON.
Sadly praying to saints comes from Satan.
Jan
Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040524015357.02666.00001366%40mb-m24.aol.com
All prayers to Saints bounce off the ceiling. No where did God instruct
man to pray to anyone except him THROUGH his son Jesus Christ.
Praying to Saints is a man made up rule, led by the help of Satan.
Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040602133702.13763.00000187%40mb-m27.aol.com
I have never mention Catholics.
Praying to saints comes from man, not God, and indeed comes from Satan.
Jan
Mark Thorson - 12 Apr 2008 03:15 GMT
To see Jan's ORIGINAL POSTING, go here:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040310000815.25804.00001173%40mb-m01.aol.com
Jan wrote:
> >From: Mark Thorson nos...@sonic.net
> >
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>
> You can't YOU JUST LIED AGAIN!!!!!!!
----- example quotes of Jan accusing people of being paid shills -----
Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030415173745.18794.00000646%40mb-fn.aol.com
Any time alt. health is mentioned the personal trashing starts. Mostly
comes from paid shill Mark Probert.
Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030412210802.08778.00000680%40mb-fw.aol.com
Internet bully Mark Probert who is a paid shill and lives off his wife.
Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030410170838.14245.00000347%40mb-ct.aol.com
As for Mark, he is a paid shill and lives off his wife.
Quoting from this ORIGINAL posting from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20030325123827.25124.00000246%40mb-mn.aol.com
As long as Mark is here, the paid shill will call names when in fact
he is the one who is a bigot. Speaking of his own people.
Jan Drew - 13 Apr 2008 03:35 GMT
"Mark Thorson"
Nothing about IIena.
Now--another proven lie.
Kelley Eidem - 12 Apr 2008 04:05 GMT
> What statement did I ever make about Cell Tech or
> their products is a lie? The retraction does not
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> You won't do that. And I know why you won't
> do that. It is because you can't.
According to your retraction you said Cell Tech DELIBERATELY avoided
testing for the toxin. That would indicate you had some knowledge. But
it turns out you did NOT have any knowledge regarding your FALSE
claim.
That is a lie, through and through.
Mark Thorson - 12 Apr 2008 20:35 GMT
> > What statement did I ever make about Cell Tech or
> > their products is a lie? The retraction does not
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> That is a lie, through and through.
No, I did not lie, nor did I make a false statementt.
THe retraction does not state that any statemen t I made
was false. Certainly, a statement would have to be
false to be a lie, right?
And yet _nobody_ has been able to point to even
one statement I made about Cell Tech or their algae
which is false, much less a lie.
Feel free to try, but I'm sure you won't.
Jan Drew - 06 Apr 2008 04:09 GMT
> The following is a retraction statement that Mark Thorson has posted to
> various
[quoted text clipped - 155 lines]
>
> YEARS LATER, YOU ARE STILL LYING!
Mark Thorson - 06 Apr 2008 07:59 GMT
What statement did I ever make about Cell Tech or
their products is a lie? The retraction does not
say any of my statements were false, much less
a lie.
I've asked you before, and you have never been
able to show me even one statement I made about
Cell Tech which is untrue, much less a lie.
When you accuse me of lying, that is a false
accusation. If you dispute that, kindly quote
one of these lies you claim I told.
You won't do that. And I know why you won't
do that. It is because you can't.
Kelley Eidem - 12 Apr 2008 04:09 GMT
> What statement did I ever make about Cell Tech or
> their products is a lie? The retraction does not
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> You won't do that. And I know why you won't
> do that. It is because you can't.
According to your retraction you said Cell Tech DELIBERATELY avoided
testing for the toxin. That would indicate you had some knowledge. But
it turns out you did NOT have any knowledge regarding your FALSE
claim.
That is a lie, through and through.
Mark Thorson - 12 Apr 2008 20:36 GMT
> > What statement did I ever make about Cell Tech or
> > their products is a lie? The retraction does not
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> That is a lie, through and through.
No, I did not lie, nor did I make a false statementt.
THe retraction does not state that any statemen t I made
was false. Certainly, a statement would have to be
false to be a lie, right?
And yet _nobody_ has been able to point to even
one statement I made about Cell Tech or their algae
which is false, much less a lie.
Feel free to try, but I'm sure you won't.
Jan Drew - 13 Apr 2008 08:15 GMT
>> > What statement did I ever make about Cell Tech or
>> > their products is a lie? The retraction does not
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Feel free to try, but I'm sure you won't.
There you have it continually lying.