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STOP Posting Garbage from PubMed!

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Mr-Natural-Health - 29 Mar 2008 17:41 GMT
It is pretty pathetic when an advocate of Natural Health knows more
about the scientific method, researching PubMed, and the art of
communication than the current crop of science Geeks currently posting
on these so-called science ngs do.

Postings straight from PubMed are only interesting when they are being
used to support a point being made by a poster.

The wholesale dumping of abstracts from PubMed without preceding each
posting with a clearly articulated statement being presented by a
poster is a total waste of bandwidth, is an irritation, is nothing but
SPAM, Garbage, Crap, or any other totally negative connotation that
anybody might want to call it.

It positively ain't science.  It is just pure laziness on your part,
with a good amount of mushy thinking skills thrown in.

I am not you Mommy, children.  I know how to research PubMed.  I am
glad that you know, too.  But unless you explicitly point out the
conclusions that you are trying to make, I really do not to care to
see your crap floating in the science ng toilet bowl.

Please Science Geeks, learn to flush the toilet after each use.

Ironjusice, Jesus and Science used in the same sentence is an
oxymoron.

Just thought that you Dumb-a.ses might want to know, that I know more
about the scientific method than you do.
Howard McCollister - 29 Mar 2008 18:46 GMT
> It is pretty pathetic when an advocate of Natural Health.....

Pathetic is a word that frequently comes to mind when thinking about sci.med
these days.

> Just thought that you Dumb-a.ses might want to know, that I know more
> about the scientific method than you do.

Like saying a one-eyed man with cataracts can see better than a totally
blind man.

HMc
David - 29 Mar 2008 20:35 GMT
On Mar 29, 12:41 pm, Mr-Natural-Health <john-h-
go...@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote:

"Troll, troll, trolly trolly troll, etc etc etc"

.....talk about a total waste of bandwidth.
PeterB - 29 Mar 2008 22:04 GMT
On Mar 29, 12:41 pm, Mr-Natural-Health <john-h-
go...@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote:
> It is pretty pathetic when an advocate of Natural Health knows more
> about the scientific method, researching PubMed, and the art of
> communication than the current crop of science Geeks currently posting
> on these so-called science ngs do.

They may know more, but that's not really the point.  PR grunts
working here for industry (astroturfing thugs) are often drawn from
backgrounds in science and several of them are very bright.  Don't be
fooled -- they know exactly what they're doing.  Their objective isn't
to inform but rather to shape public opinion, and the use of citations
(when they bother) is a clever device.  They know the odds are poor
that anyone with a scientific background will see a poorly-chosen
citation and contradict them, so it serves their purpose well.  It
also suggests an aura of academic inpenetrability.  Why do they *use*
a poorly-chosen citation in the first place?  Because the facts were
NOT on their side to begin with and they simply use the one they think
will conceal this fact the best.

> Postings straight from PubMed are only interesting when they are being
> used to support a point being made by a poster.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> SPAM, Garbage, Crap, or any other totally negative connotation that
> anybody might want to call it.

Again, implied but unstated "viewpoints" is a PR tactic designed to
remove the possibility of inconvenient questions.  The best way to
avoid being a target is never to present one.  And you can't shame
them into becoming legitimate posters because they've been doing this
on behalf of their sponsors for many years.

> It positively ain't science.  It is just pure laziness on your part,
> with a good amount of mushy thinking skills thrown in.

Not laziness.  These people work VERY hard to do what they do.

> I am not you Mommy, children.  I know how to research PubMed.  I am
> glad that you know, too.  But unless you explicitly point out the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Ironjusice, Jesus and Science used in the same sentence is an
> oxymoron.

Awwww, don't mess with Tom.  Jesus broke a few laws of physics,
remember.

> Just thought that you Dumb-a.ses might want to know, that I know more
> about the scientific method than you do.
Martin - 30 Mar 2008 09:50 GMT
>On Mar 29, 12:41 pm, Mr-Natural-Health <john-h-
>go...@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>backgrounds in science and several of them are very bright.  Don't be
>fooled -- they know exactly what they're doing.  

Which begs the question why Big Supplement has hired you to work for
them. You're obviously not very bright. and don't have a clue what
you're doing. I guess they rather spend their money on buying
politicians.

> Their objective isn't to inform but rather to shape public opinion, and the use of citations
>(when they bother) is a clever device.  They know the odds are poor
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>> Just thought that you Dumb-a.ses might want to know, that I know more
>> about the scientific method than you do.
trigonometry1972@gmail.com | - 30 Mar 2008 10:13 GMT
No one hired John Boy for anything on this topic; get a grip.
PeterB - 30 Mar 2008 21:37 GMT
> >On Mar 29, 12:41 pm, Mr-Natural-Health <john-h-
> >go...@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> you're doing. I guess they rather spend their money on buying
> politicians.

You ran away when asked to prove your false assertion after claiming
to have read it in the archives, remember?  Also, when referring to
another person's intelligence you might want to check your grammar
before hitting the "submit" button.
trigonometry1972@gmail.com | - 30 Mar 2008 09:36 GMT
Oden Mar 29, 8:41 am, Mr-Natural-Health <john-h-
go...@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote:
> It is pretty pathetic when an advocate of Natural Health knows more
>
> Please Science Geeks, learn to flush the toilet after each use.
>
> Ironjusice, Jesus and Science used in the same sentence is an
> oxymoron.

To call Ironinjustice a science geek is praise he doesn't deserve.
That said his semi random posting are more interesting than the
bulk of your BS, John Boy.

You've repeated made this same complaint over the years. You are just
small boy trying to stir the ants, it seems and the ants aren't much
interested in you.
 
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