Medical Forum / General / Alternative / March 2008
A Woman lives 20 years after uterine cancer ... no chemo, radiation nor surgery ... used Laetrile instead ... died pain free
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Ilena Rose - 25 Mar 2008 06:29 GMT Exactly Bee ... before Myrl started promoting Quackwatch and hating laetrile ... she was very clear that her mother had had a full and active life up to the end of it ... now she is doing her silicone / laetrile shuffle.
From my reading of her mother's life ... her mother would not have approved of Myrl's hatefilled anti-alternative, pro Quackwatch stance at all.
EXCERPT:" Here's what I know about the 20+ years that my mother lived with cancer. She was active, strong (very strong), and she was without pain."
The only pain that she ever really felt was from the endless spinal taps, and what ever testing she was being put through.
After she passed, my sister and I were sitting in the funeral home, when the the oncologist (pompous a.s) called. He was desperately trying to find us because he wanted to do an autopsy. "What is it your trying to find out?" I asked. "We want to know why your mother experienced no pain, when she was so riddled with cancer." He said.
"Well, I believe it was because my mother ate apricot pits," I said. But pompous a.s already had his mind made up, and said, "Oh, it couldn't possibly be that." I then knew, there was no way this jerk was going to perform an autopsy on my mother with an open mind to findings. . .and my sister and I both declined his request. He wrote on her death certificate that the initial uterine cancer was of relatively short duration (about 18 months or so), and that distresses me, because all of our family and friends know otherwise.
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http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.health/browse_frm/thread/5345a73520604e 8f/63c92e96f327ee35?lnk=st&q=laetrile+myrl#63c92e96f327ee35
Here is Myrl BEFORE being quackwatched.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.kids.health/browse_frm/thread/5345a73520604e 8f/63c92e96f327ee35?lnk=st&q=laetrile+myrl#63c92e96f327ee35
I know a little about laetrile from my mother's experiences form the 1950s until 1975. My mother happened to be one of the first health food devotees that shuffled across this planet, when Adele Davis' book, "Let's Get Well," hit the shelves in the mid 1960s. My mother already had been trying certain remedies that she'd been taking since about 1954 or so, when she was first diagnosed with uterine cancer. My mother was totally against invasive treatments, and never had a hysterectomy, chemo or radiation. I was only about eleven when she was originally diagnosed, and I remember being traumatized as a kid, because no one treated cancer lightly back then, and they especially didn't try to "eat" their way out of it with food. . .nutritious or not.
We had two apricot trees in the back yard, and my mother would harvest the seeds/pits from the apricots and eat the inner parts of the seed (laetrile), she also made teas out of things that would choke a horse to drink.
Here's what I know about the 20+ years that my mother lived with cancer. She was active, strong (very strong), and she was without pain.
She buried two husbands after she was diagnosed. . .My father, and then after re-marriage my step father. She led a happy and productive life, with much joy, and saw many grandchildren born (including my own children). She died in 1975 at the age of 65 years of age. When I had put her on a plane to visit my sister in Alaska, 3 weeks prior to her death, she seemed in good health, but was complaining a little of a burning pain in her back. She had developed the pain earlier that summer. My sister called about 10 days into the visit with her, and said my mother had been hospitalized in Anchorage. Mom had collapsed in her home. At first they thought she had the flu and vertigo, because she was so dizzy. But closer scrutiny, showed that my mother's cancer had metastasized, and was in her spine, brain, and liver now too. But she was still remarkably with out much pain or discomfort.
The doctors could not believe that my mother had boarded a plane just 10 days prior. . .But what really blew them away was the fact my mother owned two (two story) appartment houses, and had painted the exterior of them herself using a brush. Yup, that's no sprayer, and no rollers. She told me the hardest part was moving the ladder. Even though she was just 5'2" and weighed 105 lbs throughout her life (and until her death), she had managed the painting in the month preceding her trip.
We brought mom home to Sacramento, because she begged to come back to where her friends and the majority of her family were. She lasted just one week after she returned. We had immediately placed her in Sutter Hospital here, and an oncologist immediately started putting mom through endless batteries of tests, spinal taps, etc. We begged him not to. . .The doctors in Anchorage, had told us there would likely only be 3 weeks or so of life left anyway. At that point, we couldn't seem to get the doctor to stop, and allow her to just be comfortable. . .and I feel I really let my mother down by not being able to do so. The only pain that she ever really felt was from the endless spinal taps, and what ever testing she was being put through.
After she passed, my sister and I were sitting in the funeral home, when the the oncologist (pompous a.s) called. He was desperately trying to find us because he wanted to do an autopsy. "What is it your trying to find out?" I asked. "We want to know why your mother experienced no pain, when she was so riddled with cancer." He said.
"Well, I believe it was because my mother ate apricot pits," I said. But pompous a.s already had his mind made up, and said, "Oh, it couldn't possibly be that." I then knew, there was no way this jerk was going to perform an autopsy on my mother with an open mind to findings. . .and my sister and I both declined his request. He wrote on her death certificate that the initial uterine cancer was of relatively short duration (about 18 months or so), and that distresses me, because all of our family and friends know otherwise.
In the end, I feel if my mother had had the surgery (hysterectomy) back in the 1950s, and maybe forgone the chemo and the radiation, but tried a few things that she was into of the alternative methods, she may have been with us a lot longer than she was. Again, it's about using all the medical tools at your disposal, both traditional and non-traditional. I find it difficult thinking of non-traditional in that light, because herbal remedies have been with mankind a whole lot longer, and are more traditional than the invasive "traditional" methods we practice predominantly in this country. Herbs/plants actually make up more than 1/3 of the ingredients that are in our pharmaseudicals that we pay the big bucks to our drug companies for.
I do have concerns that the laetrile may have gotten to my mother's liver, because of the arsenic content. . .but she did have 20+ good years after her original diagnosis, and I think that chemo and radiation back then would not have left her unscathed either. The bottom line is my mother's way left her in control of her life. Medicine in this society is patriarical, and it also makes a lot of undeserving people and corporations very very wealthy. I wouldn't mind so much, but I see much medicine that isn't serving any of us well. . .and yes, it's the year 2001, a full 26 years since my mother's death, and we don't have a cure yet!
Myrl
Myrl - 25 Mar 2008 07:58 GMT > Exactly Bee ... before Myrl started promoting Quackwatch and hating > laetrile ... she was very clear that her mother had had a full and [quoted text clipped - 132 lines] > > Myrl I continue to stand by earlier stance regarding my mother, and her use of natural laetrile. You will note, that even in my original piece, and especially my comment, "I do have concerns that the laetrile may have gotten to my mother's iver, because of the arsenic content. . .but she did have 20+ good years after her original diagnosis, and I think that chemo and radiation back then would not have left her unscathed either. The bottom line is my mother's way left her in control of her life."
I do also continue to wish, like I always have - that my mother would have had surgery to remove the disease in it's early stages. But, alternative practioners highly discouraged her from doing so, and put her on the avenue of laetrile instead.
Bee - 25 Mar 2008 08:26 GMT > I do also continue to wish, like I always have - that my mother would > have had surgery to remove the disease in it's early stages. But, > alternative practioners highly discouraged her from doing so, and put > her on the avenue of laetrile instead. She made her own choices in her own health care, and that is what freedom to choose is all about. So by supporting the angle that Quackwatch supports, this would be from your own angle about yourself, and not what your mother wanted to do in the first place or any other person for that.
Ilena Rose - 25 Mar 2008 19:40 GMT http://groups.google.com/group/ca.politics/browse_frm/thread/3af787daaffcb6d9/6d 188ff1f016a12b?lnk=gst&q=author%3Amyrl+gardasil+return+them+to+health#6d188ff1f0 16a12b
The only Vaccination Flack who has had the audacity to go this far in promoting Gardasil is my long term nemesis, and blatant pathological liar, Myrl Jeffcoat. To lie to the public that her beloved Gardasil can 'return" people to health after HPV is on the same absurd level as most of her lies about me.
But, the Gardasil vaccine, can save hundreds of thousands of lives. And, it will save millions and millions more, from lengthy, traumatic, expensive treatment, to return them to health after contracting the HPV virus." Vaccination Lie by Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat Thu, 13 Sep 2007
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html She lies about vaccinations, about me, and has spun around180 degrees on several issues:
Patrick O'leary ... President of Inamed and now Medicor's Eurosilicone www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/patrickoleary.htm
Laetrile ... went from being grateful that her mother survived 20+ years after uterine cancer diagnose, using no surgery, radiation nor chemo PAIN FREE ... only laetrile ... to screaming it is "pus or poison" much like Vac Flack Mark S Probert. She did this 180 degree turn 30 years after her mother's death. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/propagandistprobert.html
And now she makes this outrageous and false claim for Gardasil ...
http://groups.google.com/group/ca.politics/msg/3143e801a10978f2?dmode...
"Given a choice between saving lives of 70% of the 250,000 - 290,000 women who die, vs. 7 UNPROVEN associated deaths. . .I don't think there is any choice, for most logically thinking people.
But, the Gardasil vaccine, can save hundreds of thousands of lives. And, it will save millions and millions more, from lengthy, traumatic, expensive treatment, to return them to health after contracting the HPV virus." Vaccination Lie by Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat Thu, 13 Sep 2007
Myrl - 25 Mar 2008 21:08 GMT > http://groups.google.com/group/ca.politics/browse_frm/thread/3af787da... > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Vaccination Lie by Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat > Thu, 13 Sep 2007 Thanks Ilena, for once again showing your true colors. Yes, my statement you put your twisted spin on, is as true today, as it was the day I said it - "Gardasil will save millions and millions from lengthy, traumatic, expensive treatment, which is required to return girls and women to health after contracting the HPV virus." It does that by PREVENTING the disease in the first place. That's the point of Gardasil, and why it is important to attempt to protect girls and young women before they become sexually active. Once they contract HPV, it's too late for Gardasil to protect!
An ounce of PREVENTION through this vaccine, is far more valuable than any CURE!
It is true that $300 - $400 is expensive for the Gardasil series - but in contrast to the average $20,100 to treat Cervical Cancer it's cheap!
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Ilena Rose - 25 Mar 2008 23:23 GMT I'll repeat this ... as Myrl is taking bows for lying to the public that her Gardasil 'return's people to health after HPV ... she threw in a lot of words to cover her lies ... so here they are again.
Her true color apparently is the color of vaccination propaganda!
http://groups.google.com/group/ca.politics/browse_frm/thread/3af787daaffcb6d9/6d 188ff1f016a12b?lnk=gst&q=author%3Amyrl+gardasil+return+them+to+health#6d188ff1f0 16a12b
The only Vaccination Flack who has had the audacity to go this far in promoting Gardasil is my long term nemesis, and blatant pathological liar, Myrl Jeffcoat. To lie to the public that her beloved Gardasil can 'return" people to health after HPV is on the same absurd level as most of her lies about me.
But, the Gardasil vaccine, can save hundreds of thousands of lives. And, it will save millions and millions more, from lengthy, traumatic, expensive treatment, to return them to health after contracting the HPV virus." Vaccination Lie by Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat Thu, 13 Sep 2007
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html She lies about vaccinations, about me, and has spun around180 degrees on several issues:
Patrick O'leary ... President of Inamed and now Medicor's Eurosilicone www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/patrickoleary.htm
Laetrile ... went from being grateful that her mother survived 20+ years after uterine cancer diagnose, using no surgery, radiation nor chemo PAIN FREE ... only laetrile ... to screaming it is "pus or poison" much like Vac Flack Mark S Probert. She did this 180 degree turn 30 years after her mother's death. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/propagandistprobert.html
And now she makes this outrageous and false claim for Gardasil ...
http://groups.google.com/group/ca.politics/msg/3143e801a10978f2?dmode...
"Given a choice between saving lives of 70% of the 250,000 - 290,000 women who die, vs. 7 UNPROVEN associated deaths. . .I don't think there is any choice, for most logically thinking people.
But, the Gardasil vaccine, can save hundreds of thousands of lives. And, it will save millions and millions more, from lengthy, traumatic, expensive treatment, to return them to health after contracting the HPV virus." Vaccination Lie by Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat Thu, 13 Sep 2007
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