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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / March 2008Anyone read this book?
This sounds like a pretty interesting read. http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/412/Exposed-Toxic-Chemistry.html Maybe the in-resident chemists will be able to offer some comments. > This sounds like a pretty interesting read. > > http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/412/Exposed-Toxic-Chemistry.html > > Maybe the in-resident chemists will be able to offer some comments. Bee, thanks for the link. I read the excerpt. The quote by Environmental Health Network's Joseph Guth was interesting: "TSCA rewards ignorance. The chemical companies give you function and they give you price. What they don't give you is safety or environmental effects. That is a complete black box. The data gaps are massive..." It's interesting because it reminds me of the pharmaceutical industry. Drug trials usually look at fewer than 3,000 patients over a period of just a few months before submitting "toxicity" data to the FDA. Of course, off-label uses would not be required even to do that. This myth that FDA approval means "safe" is like saying a car is safe because it has a windshield. New England Journal of Medicine's former Editor in chief, Marcia Angell, said a drug "need not be better than an older drug already on the market to treat the same condition; in fact, it may be worse. There is no way of knowing, since companies generally do not test their new drugs against older ones for the same conditions at equivalent doses. (For obvious reasons, they would rather not find the answer.) They should be required to do so..." When I read the link in your post, it made me think of this statement by Angell. [ref. "The Truth About the Drug Companies," by Marcia Angell] > > This sounds like a pretty interesting read. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > think of this statement by Angell. [ref. "The Truth About the Drug > Companies," by Marcia Angell] Are you the same Peter B as Bowditch? > > > This sounds like a pretty interesting read. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Yes, they are the same person. >> > This sounds like a pretty interesting read. >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >Are you the same Peter B as Bowditch? No. If this is the "PeterB" who posted here some time ago, one is an idiot who posts rubbish and runs away from any challenge. the other is me.  SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > >> > This sounds like a pretty interesting read. > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > idiot who posts rubbish and runs away from any challenge. the other is > me. Ah, the sound of irony meters shattering deafened even you! Sorry, Peter, but I just couldn't resist. > -- > Peter Bowditch aa #2243 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > - Show quoted text - >> >> > This sounds like a pretty interesting read. >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >Ah, the sound of irony meters shattering deafened even you! >Sorry, Peter, but I just couldn't resist. I posted my reply before I saw yours., but in any case I was trying to keep the secret secret. SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com "Peter B >>> > This sounds like a pretty interesting read. >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> >>Are you the same Peter B as Bowditch? No, Bowditch posts lies and SPAM. To the one and only PeterB who is truthful Welcome back!! > "Peter B > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > To the one and only PeterB who is truthful > Welcome back!! Thanks for your kind words, Jan. As always... On Mar 23, 10:33 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > "Peter B > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > To the one and only PeterB who is truthful > Welcome back!! Thanks for your kind words, Jan. As always... You're welcome. My habit is to be truthful, as is yours. : To the one and only PeterB who is truthful This is a definition of "truthful" with which I was previously unfamiliar. ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing." > In article <FqEFj.1712$p24....@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>, Jan Drew <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > : To the one and only PeterB who is truthful > > This is a definition of "truthful" with which I was previously > unfamiliar. Schultzie, I hope you never got the idea that your earlier mission was a success. I mean, you do realize that it was just a coincidence, right? Anyway, if you had not previously "stumbled onto mha" by accident, as you stated, perhaps you would have stayed longer. But wait. You DID stay longer -- more than a year longer. Ahhhh. Well, now, you were saying something about the word "truthful?" Note to reader: this is *exactly* how our resident astroturfing thugs like to post to those of us advocating (or simply discussing) natural medicine. THEY taught me this, and I simply use the same method, turning the tables. But there's a difference. I use the truth, not fabrications, to make a point. BIG difference. > Schultzie, I hope you never got the idea that your earlier mission was > a success. I mean, you do realize that it was just a coincidence, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > turning the tables. But there's a difference. I use the truth, not > fabrications, to make a point. BIG difference. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick ... | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > In message <dc9acddb-1723-434d-b698-67ccfcb2d...@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, PeterB wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick ... You're a tick? DC, that's scary. If you see a cigarette, do what we do. RUN. The Matrix cannot define who you are. > > > This sounds like a pretty interesting read. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Are you the same Peter B as Bowditch? No, we are different people.
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