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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / March 2008MD states: "I know that EFT can do all that is reported to be possible"
From: http://www.emofree.com/Pain-management/calf-pain.htm Note: This article assumes you have a working knowledge of EFT. Newcomers can still learn from it but are advised to get our Free EFT Get Started Package or our Affordable DVDs for a more complete understanding. ......................................................................................................... MD states: "I know that EFT can do all that is reported to be possible" Hi Everyone, Psychiatrist and long time EFT'er Henry Altenberg, MD gives us this personal story that would make an EFT believer out of anyone. Hugs, Gary By Henry Altenberg, MD Dear Gary: I thought you might find my personal experience of EFT for pain of some interest, particularly in terms of my reaction. About 2 months ago, I woke up in the middle of the night, about 3 or 4 AM, with an incredibly sharp pain in my right calf (due to a spasm). I would rate it at about a 40 on a scale of 0 to 10. It felt like someone had stabbed my calf with a very sharp knife. I instantly tapped for the pain, at a 10, and it immediately dropped to 5 out of 10. I then without any delay tapped again and it dropped to zero. Within what seemed like seconds, I fell asleep. When I awakened at 8 AM, I knew I hadn't been dreaming, since the calf was tender to the touch (but no pain at all). I then kept muttering to myself, even though I have been studying and teaching and using EFT for 9 years, "I can't believe this; I can't believe this." I not only fully believe it; I know. Someone once interviewed Carl Jung and asked him, "Do you believe in God?" He thought for a few minutes, and then quietly replied, "I know." So, I know that EFT can do all that is reported to be possible. My only problem these days is that I sometimes come on like a snake-oil salesman, and my wife lovingly chides me to calm down, and not be so enthusiastic. As you may know, I have been a psychiatrist for 55 years, and I am still practicing. They say, practice makes perfect. If I keep practicing EFT, I may get up to the 95% effectiveness score some day. Since I am now only 82, I am planning to try to convince a few more physicians in the next 18 years to try EFT. If they try it, they might even like it. Regards, Henry Altenberg, MD ....................................................................................................... Posted by JPaul EFT Practitioner > From:http://www.emofree.com/Pain-management/calf-pain.htm > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > As you may know, I have been a psychiatrist for 55 years, and I am > still practicing. Oh, and we all know what good MDs psychiatrists are... > > From:http://www.emofree.com/Pain-management/calf-pain.htm > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Oh, and we all know what good MDs psychiatrists are... But that is exactly where most of the people here go. Why don't you want people to learn EFT and help themselves? Why do you disingenuously change subject headings? Could it be because you are one of those typical school yard bullys that will destroy anything and everyone they can? Could it be that you have such a low self image that you must have everyone below you in order to feel superior and in control? This is quite typical and well known behavior especially on the internet where you can hide behind a keyboard to do your destruction. http://search.emofree.com/search?q=bully&btnG=go&entqr=0&output=xml_no_dtd&ud=1& client=emofree&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=emofree&site=emofree JPaul EFT Pratitioner > > > From:http://www.emofree.com/Pain-management/calf-pain.htm > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > But that is exactly where most of the people here go. > Why don't you want people to learn EFT and help themselves? Oh, Im sorry, i do believe that in your post you said, "This article assumes you have a working knowledge of EFT." Therefore, the people that this article is aimed at already have working knowledge of EFT. So, they've already learned it and therefore apparently are already helping themselves. > > > Newcomers can still learn from it but are advised to get our Free EFT > > > Get Started Package or our Affordable DVDs for a more complete > > > understanding. If people dont know about EFT already then your article is not aimed at them, or else your "newcomers" have to fork out some dosh to know WTF you are talking about. "I can save your life if you send money". it could be relevant in some places, if you want to target specific groups, target specific groups and stop cross posting. Take that *little* bit of effort to spread the good word and specifically target your audience, after all thats good marketing mate! You're a spammer, you cross post your stuff everywhere. You say people wont know what you're talking about if they dont buy "our Affordable (50% off at a pice of $300) DVDs". So, it is part of "OUR" DVDs is it now JP? I am saying what is relevant to the ng i read, what has been said by others in this ng. if you dont want my comments cross posted to random groups, stop CROSS POSTING! and you can suck up your target audience there. anyway, im not preventing people from learning EFT, apparently your article assumes people already know it, or they have to send money for DVDs, Anyway, people can still read it, your sh.t is still posted, again, and again, and again, and again. its clearly legible. > Why do you disingenuously change subject headings? cuz i hate spam so want to warn others. > Could it be because you are one of those typical school yard bullys > that will destroy anything and everyone they can? > Could it be that you have such a low self image that you must have > everyone below you in order to feel superior and in control? nah, i just hate spam, i do it to illegal immigrant OT topics too. > This is quite typical and well known behavior especially on the > internet where you can hide behind a keyboard to do your destruction. I'm not "destroying" anything. I am warning other people about spam, some people like spam, they can read it. Suck it up, even this GUYS WIFE likened him to a snakeoil salesman... > > > > From:http://www.emofree.com/Pain-management/calf-pain.htm > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > So, they've already learned it and therefore apparently are already > helping themselves. The "assumption" is not correct here. But you knew that. It's a simple disclosure matter. > > > > Newcomers can still learn from it but are advised to get our Free EFT > > > > Get Started Package or our Affordable DVDs for a more complete [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > at them, or else your "newcomers" have to fork out some dosh to know > WTF you are talking about. "I can save your life if you send money". Liar. Why do you continually lie about what is presented? The learning is free with the free manual. http://www.emofree.com/downloadeftmanual.asp > it could be relevant in some places, if you want to target specific > groups, target specific groups and stop cross posting. Take that > *little* bit of effort to spread the good word and specifically target > your audience, after all thats good marketing mate! You're a spammer, > you cross post your stuff everywhere. Liar. It is posted to 5 relevant groups. >You say people wont know what > you're talking about if they dont buy "our Affordable (50% off at a > pice of $300) DVDs". I said no such thing. The free manual covers "working knowledge." More lies noted. >So, it is part of "OUR" DVDs is it now JP? No. The DVD's are for expanded knowledge. >I am > saying what is relevant to the ng i read, what has been said by others > in this ng. if you dont want my comments cross posted to random > groups, stop CROSS POSTING! and you can suck up your target audience > there. If you don't want to learn why don't you leave it alone? You are not helpng anyone with your lies. > anyway, im not preventing people from learning EFT, Just lying about everything posted that's all. >apparently your > article assumes people already know it, or they have to send money for > DVDs, Anyway, people can still read it, your sh.t is still posted, > again, and again, and again, and again. its clearly legible. Again you ignore thst I have only told people to get the FREE manual. > > Why do you disingenuously change subject headings? > > cuz i hate spam so want to warn others. It isn't spam. > > Could it be because you are one of those typical school yard bullys > > that will destroy anything and everyone they can? > > Could it be that you have such a low self image that you must have > > everyone below you in order to feel superior and in control? > > nah, i just hate spam, i do it to illegal immigrant OT topics too. So anything you don't like is spam? > > This is quite typical and well known behavior especially on the > > internet where you can hide behind a keyboard to do your destruction. > > I'm not "destroying" anything. No? Lying isn't destructive? >I am warning other people about spam, There is no spam. It's a simple learnable techniquie anyone can use to rid themselves of negative emotions. > some people like spam, they can read it. > Suck it up, even this GUYS WIFE likened him to a snakeoil salesman... So? She was wrong just as you are. There is no snake oil. People here complained that there was no credible Dr.'s and such verifying EFT. Well there is and that is what I posted. > > > But that is exactly where most of the people here go. > > > Why don't you want people to learn EFT and help themselves? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > But you knew that. > It's a simple disclosure matter. Well, *you* are the one that f.cking wrote your "assumption", you idiot. You clearly stated, "Note: This article assumes you have a working knowledge of EFT. Newcomers can still learn from it but are advised to get our Free EFT Get Started Package or our Affordable DVDs for a more complete understanding. " You f.cking wrote it, i didnt make that sh.t up. Your disclosure "disclosed" that "This article assumes you have a working knowledge of EFT." Your simple disclosure matter stated that you w.nker. If that f.cking "assumption" isnt correct here,as you state in this later post, then why f.cking disclose an assumption or something that wasnt correct? then you wrote the wrong f.cking disclosure then, didnt you? SORT IT OUT AND REFUCKING TYPE IT THEN. You are full of sh.t. > > > > > Newcomers can still learn from it but are advised to get our Free EFT > > > > > Get Started Package or our Affordable DVDs for a more complete [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Liar. > Why do you continually lie about what is presented? what you presented was this f.cking statement: Note: This article assumes you have a working knowledge of EFT. Newcomers can still learn from it but are advised to get our Free EFT Get Started Package or our Affordable DVDs for a more complete understanding. How the f.ck can i lie about anything when i just quote what YOU WROTE? You are saying that YOU LIED then, I just quoted you! I didnt lie about anything, I said ecxactly what was in your f.cking disclosure, wake the f.ck up, do you even READ what you write?? > > it could be relevant in some places, if you want to target specific > > groups, target specific groups and stop cross posting. Take that [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Liar. > It is posted to 5 relevant groups. yeah, thats whats f.cking called CROSS POSTING. a favourite spammer hobby to put sh.t out to lots of places. you could at least make us feel loved that you took enough time to write to each group individually because you care about our well being so much. ;-P > >You say people wont know what > > you're talking about if they dont buy "our Affordable (50% off at a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The free manual covers "working knowledge." > More lies noted. Yeah, well, you just pointed out that you lied in your disclosure, i just pointed to your disclosure: Note: This article assumes you have a working knowledge of EFT. Newcomers can still learn from it but are advised to get our Free EFT Get Started Package or our Affordable DVDs for a more complete understanding. " If you just read the manual, you'll probably think wtf is this? > >So, it is part of "OUR" DVDs is it now JP? > > No. > The DVD's are for expanded knowledge. again, i was quoting your disclosure, which you now say is incorrect, "Note: This article assumes you have a working knowledge of EFT. Newcomers can still learn from it but are advised to get our Free EFT Get Started Package or *OUR* Affordable DVDs for a more complete understanding." > If you don't want to learn why don't you leave it alone? > You are not helpng anyone with your lies. well, that makes two of us then, neither are you! and the lies you point out of mine is my quoting your disclosure... > > anyway, im not preventing people from learning EFT, > > Just lying about everything posted that's all. no, i was just quoting your words, word for f.cking word. i didnt make any words up about your disclosure. > >apparently your > > article assumes people already know it, or they have to send money for > > DVDs, Anyway, people can still read it, your sh.t is still posted, > > again, and again, and again, and again. its clearly legible. > > Again you ignore thst I have only told people to get the FREE manual. oh, then wtf is in your disclosure then? must i really quote it again? surely you should have memorised it by now. here goes: Note: This article assumes you have a working knowledge of EFT. Newcomers can still learn from it but are advised to get our Free EFT Get Started Package or our Affordable DVDs for a more complete understanding. > > > Why do you disingenuously change subject headings? > > > cuz i hate spam so want to warn others. > > It isn't spam. looks like spam. > > > Could it be because you are one of those typical school yard bullys > > > that will destroy anything and everyone they can? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > So anything you don't like is spam? no, i have nothing against any of this sh.t, i just thought a courteous OT infront of illegal immigration would be a nice thing to do. I have nothing for or against Mexican immigration, or people posting it, just a couretous OT header would be nice. > > > This is quite typical and well known behavior especially on the > > > internet where you can hide behind a keyboard to do your destruction. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > No? > Lying isn't destructive? LOL, I wasnt lying, I was quoting you, if those quotes are lies, they are your lies. > >I am warning other people about spam, > > There is no spam. > It's a simple learnable techniquie anyone can use to rid themselves of > negative emotions. It has repetitive spam like qualities that people on ash have commented on. > > some people like spam, they can read it. > > Suck it up, even this GUYS WIFE likened him to a snakeoil salesman... > > So? > She was wrong just as you are. wake up. if someone that knows and cares about you for X amount of years, \ tells you you are coming across as a snakeoil man, you are coming across as a snakeoil man. > There is no snake oil. > People here complained that there was no credible Dr.'s and such > verifying EFT. > Well there is and that is what I posted. erm, i guess i missed that one, i think people said that your posts were coming across as spam. if you posted the same way about prozac again and again and again. people would get f.cked off too. > > > > But that is exactly where most of the people here go. > > > > Why don't you want people to learn EFT and help themselves? [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > disclosure then, didnt you? SORT IT OUT AND REFUCKING TYPE IT THEN. > You are full of sh.t. No I didn't type it and I am not retyping anything. The article was copied and posted directly from the EFT website which is linked to the EFT Newsletter. Get a life. <snip the rest of your bully rant> Anyone can go here to get the "Working knowledge" of EFT needed to understand it, which you clearly don't. http://www.emofree.com/downloadeftmanual.asp Good luck, JPaul EFT Pracitioner > No I didn't type it and I am not retyping anything. > The article was copied and posted directly from the EFT website which > is linked to the EFT Newsletter. > Get a life. > <snip the rest of your bully rant> so, you are disagreeing with the articles which you are copying and pasting then? > Anyone can go here to get the "Working knowledge" of EFT needed to > understand it, which you clearly don't. should do, had EFT sessions with an EFT practioner before... i know exactly what it does/doesnt do, Would it help with roky's mercury poisoning? maybe you wouldnt make a good match after all.... "Even though I am poisoned by mercury, I deeply and completely love and accept myself." > > No I didn't type it and I am not retyping anything. > > The article was copied and posted directly from the EFT website which [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > so, you are disagreeing with the articles which you are copying and > pasting then? You are lost. The article speaks for itself. > > Anyone can go here to get the "Working knowledge" of EFT needed to > > understand it, which you clearly don't. > > should do, English please. >had EFT sessions with an EFT practioner before... i know > exactly what it does/doesnt do, Why don't I believe you? And NO ONE knows exactly what EFT will do and not do. People are using it on everything and new reports of success come in daily. > Would it help with roky's mercury poisoning? I don't know. It could be worth a try in helping with some aspects. >maybe you wouldnt make a > good match after all.... > > "Even though I am poisoned by mercury, I deeply and completely love > and accept myself." Good for you. That's a good start. > > > No I didn't type it and I am not retyping anything. > > > The article was copied and posted directly from the EFT website which [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You are lost. > The article speaks for itself. sure does: "Note: This article assumes you have a working knowledge of EFT. Newcomers can still learn from it but are advised to get our Free EFT Get Started Package or our Affordable DVDs for a more complete understanding." too bad you dont. > > > Anyone can go here to get the "Working knowledge" of EFT needed to > > > understand it, which you clearly don't. > > > should do, > > English please. also shortened for "I should do", use brain please. > >had EFT sessions with an EFT practioner before... i know > > exactly what it does/doesnt do, > > Why don't I believe you? because you are a twat that posts spam perhaps? could have something to do with it... or could be because your ignorance/arrogance prevents you from recognising the truth? not sure, you'll have to figure out your follies yourself. why the hell would i make up a *stupid* thing like that? boggles the mind... > And NO ONE knows exactly what EFT will do and not do. I know it wont cure cancer, and I know it wont cure mercury poisoning, or bacterial infections, or alzheimers, among other things.. I would like you to point out what if anything was incorrect about the title change "Another snakeoil salesman with an MD & affordable DVDs" It was extremely accurate from the article you posted. a) the guys WIFE likened him to a snakeoil salesman, as stated in the article, b) he had an MD, as stated in the article, c) and the article was aimed at people ASSUMING they had working working knowledge of EFT. or else they had to buy Affordable DVDs. I think I simply condensed the facts to make it a succinct title for you! |
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