On Mar 11, 2:07 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:

OOps.. There goes the fake UDP again.

<Like I said at the time, I received hate filled emails that were
replete with Ilena-isms wishing ill for my son who was about to
undergo pump implant surgery. I was looking to find out just what you
were telling your group. Nothing more.>

More made up stories.
Forget you said this??

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/b47238df12888f43

Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories. At
worst, outright lies.

<Of course, you claimed that I never received these emails, but never
explained how you knew that. Of course, there are only two ways you
could make that claim: 1) you were intercepting my emails, or 2) your
group does not exist. If you disagree, please explain a third way,
and, your idle speculation does not count.>

YOU said YOU received emails.  YOU prove it.

Forget you said this also?

Rod wrote:

Rod, I have tried to end the feud/war/what-have-you with Ilena since she
returned to the newsgroups. If you, and Jan, want to dredge up ancient
history, feel free. I do not play that game anymore.

If you continue to post with the same attitude, I will correctly assume
that you, too, in addition to Jan, want the war to continue.

I do not.

Since when are you an attorney? This is something that you routinely
do.

<You have that wrong. I have said that your purpose in contacting my
wife was to feebly attempt to stifle my free speech by intimidating
me.

You have never, ever, explained why YOU stalked my wife, and, as of
today, my explanation is the only one on the table. If you disagree
with my explanation, please explain YOUR motive in doing so. I note
that I was not the first male you did this to.

So, the bottom line is that you are wrong, and you will never, ever
admit why you stalked my wife.>

Your wife was never stalked.  Period.
You OTOH, emailed me.  It was NOT your wife Sandra.

Dear Mrs. Drew:

I am using email to you since I do not wish to participate in Usenet. I
trust that you *wil* respect this. I *wil* not email you again, except to
forward to you other emails that Rosenthal has sent to me. She had the
unmitigated gall to actually post this email to a webpage, which she
acknowledges, and has since removed. She had the nerve to post my place of
employment in the newsgroups and on that webpage.

Frankly, I am tired of your constant blaming Mark for everything that
Rosenthal has done to him. This email was sent to ME, not him, by her. He
had warned her several times not to do so, but, she went ahead and emailed
me. I have spoken with some of Mark's friends in government law enforcement,
and they tell me that this can be construed as stalking behavior, since I
have never had contact with her.

Let me be blunt: I have been fully aware of Mark's activities from day one
as we share *verything* in our relationship. He has NEVER posted as Will
Ketcher, and we have not had an AOL account for a long time. However,
Rosenthal persists in accusing him.

Let me clear up this issue Mark's attempt to infiltrate her email list. He
has never denied doing so, and has clearly stated his reasons, which
Rosenthal rejects. When he mentioned that our younger son was about to have
surgery he began receiving some very nasty email which sounded quite a bit
like Rosenthal. I read them, and know that they were hate filled and
mirrored her usual verbiage. Some of them actually wished ill to our son.
Remember, I am an English teacher and I spend hours a day reading students'
work. I also felt that they could have originated with people who were
affiliated with her.

Mark was deeply offended by some of the statements in these emails, and he
attempted to locate the senders, but was unsuccessful. He then decided to
try to read her group to see if he could identify the offending individuals.
As you know, she found out what he did, and posted a message to that effect.
Mark *immeidatrely* acknowledged what he did, and expressed his reasons,
which she denied and said that we never received such email, even though she
had absolutely no way of reading his email inbox.

You have been *concistently*wrong about Mark, and even more consistently
wrong about Mark. I have read many instances where it was clear that you did
not *udnerstand* what he was saying. Now that you do not read his full
messages (many times you respond to something that has been severely edited)
or his replies, you are making assumptions based on less than all the facts.
If you were my student, you would get an F.

When I first received this email I was very upset by her actions, and I
wanted to file complaints with Hotmail, RoadRunner and GoDaddy, her website
host. Mark talked me out of it, as he does not think that such actions *wil
lhelp* her. In fact, he is convinced that she *wil* become even more abusive
and obsessed with "enemies." You know that I have every right to make such
complaints.

Several of my students have used her website about Mark in their *wrtiings*
in my senior honors writing seminar. Another group has used Rosenthal in a
debate in my senior debating class. They used her to demonstrate that the
First Amendment, which is posted in Mark's study, protects even the most
vile people. I gave them an A.

I trust that this helps you get a better perspective on Mark, and on
Rosenthal.

As I said above, I will not email you again, but I will forward all of her
current messages to me.

If you wish to respond to me, please do so at SandraProb...@hotmail.com. I
am using my professional email address simply because that is the address
Rosenthal used.

Sandra Probert

SPro...@nycboe.net