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Bowditch takes the Bait

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Anonymous - 09 Mar 2008 17:58 GMT
Every time Tim Bolen posts facts about CrazyTerry Polevoy,
IncontinentStephen Barrett, Or CrankyBobby Baratz, poor
unfortunate PeterPhile Bowditch (having recently moved
from one rental in the city to another rental in the middle of
nowhere,and now can truly boast that he is the backwoodsass-
countryfuck he is known to be)jumps in with usual bullshit
pretending he actually knows something. Most recent is his
response to Bolen's query of Ilena Rosenthal concerning payments
she has received from Barrett as part of her settlement in
her court victory.

Like most things, Bowditch pretends he actually knows what's
going on. And of course in most instances he lies...He lies
about Ilena Rosenthal, he lies about the safety of vaccines,
he lies about his criminal record, he lies about restraining orders
his children have filed against him.....everything that comes
out of his piehole is a lie.....

And of course BlowDitch will respond with more lies..and his
usual buttplugg aupporters will line up to defend his greatness.....
Martin - 09 Mar 2008 21:10 GMT
>Every time Tim Bolen posts facts about CrazyTerry Polevoy,
>IncontinentStephen Barrett, Or CrankyBobby Baratz, poor
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>And of course BlowDitch will respond with more lies..and his
>usual buttplugg aupporters will line up to defend his greatness.....

Mr. O'Neill, I'd really like to know why you are posting anonymously
when just about everybody here knows exactly who and what you are. It
really is pathological, isn't it. Have you considered donating your
brain to science?
Mark Thorson - 09 Mar 2008 21:16 GMT
> Mr. O'Neill, I'd really like to know why you are posting anonymously
> when just about everybody here knows exactly who and what you are. It
> really is pathological, isn't it. Have you considered donating your
> brain to science?

Not likely.  But perhaps he'd consider donating it
to pseudoscience.
Peter Bowditch - 09 Mar 2008 22:44 GMT
>> Mr. O'Neill, I'd really like to know why you are posting anonymously
>> when just about everybody here knows exactly who and what you are. It
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Not likely.  But perhaps he'd consider donating it
>to pseudoscience.

Finally a use for the 60,000x Rife microscope.

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Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

Bee - 10 Mar 2008 06:45 GMT
> Finally a use for the 60,000x Rife microscope.
>
> --

Are you looking for life on Uranus again?
D. C. Sessions - 09 Mar 2008 22:13 GMT
> Mr. O'Neill, I'd really like to know why you are posting anonymously
> when just about everybody here knows exactly who and what you are. It
> really is pathological, isn't it. Have you considered donating your
> brain to science?

ObQuirk!

| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
|    The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?"    |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
Bee - 10 Mar 2008 06:44 GMT
> Mr. O'Neill, I'd really like to know why you are posting anonymously
> when just about everybody here knows exactly who and what you are. It
> really is pathological, isn't it. Have you considered donating your
> brain to science?

Answer:  Because whomever is posting--"CAN."
How would you know it is even him???
Mark Probert - 10 Mar 2008 12:17 GMT
> > Mr. O'Neill, I'd really like to know why you are posting anonymously
> > when just about everybody here knows exactly who and what you are. It
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Answer:  Because whomever is posting--"CAN."
> How would you know it is even him???

It is the same type of his usually moronic rants.
Peter Bowditch - 10 Mar 2008 12:50 GMT
>> > Mr. O'Neill, I'd really like to know why you are posting anonymously
>> > when just about everybody here knows exactly who and what you are. It
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>It is the same type of his usually moronic rants.

I had reason today to look at my academic transcript from Macquarie
University. I spent a lot of time studying linguistics, and I can
recognise style. When you have been exposed to Mr O'Neill for eight
years as I have you get to know who is writing.

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Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

D. C. Sessions - 10 Mar 2008 15:02 GMT
> I had reason today to look at my academic transcript from Macquarie
> University. I spent a lot of time studying linguistics, and I can
> recognise style. When you have been exposed to Mr O'Neill for eight
> years as I have you get to know who is writing.

Wow.  Classic case of requiring advanced training to
recognize the stuff on the bottom of your shoe.

Peter, it's so freaking obvious that anyone who *doesn't*
recognize the GAC is either oblivious or has joined the
audience since the previous infestation.

| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
|    The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?"    |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
Peter Bowditch - 10 Mar 2008 21:03 GMT
>> I had reason today to look at my academic transcript from Macquarie
>> University. I spent a lot of time studying linguistics, and I can
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>recognize the GAC is either oblivious or has joined the
>audience since the previous infestation.

I was just making appeals to authority and personal experience, both
of which are often used as evidence around here.

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Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

Bee - 11 Mar 2008 00:29 GMT
> It is the same type of his usually moronic rants.

Is he not allowed free speech as you are?  I hardly believe you of all
people would stifle anyone's speech, right?
Mark Probert - 11 Mar 2008 03:29 GMT
> > It is the same type of his usually moronic rants.
>
> Is he not allowed free speech as you are?

Stuff it Debster. Every time I comment about what someone says,
youhaul out this bullshit whine about free speech. For the f*cking
last time:

I support free speech far more than you, Ilena, the junk yard dog, or
any of the a.shole alties do in this newsgoup.

I got the scars to prove it.

Stop playing you stupid moron mind games. You raise this issue as a
red hering to divert attention from the a.sholes you defend. And, do
not whine that you are not defending anyone. I am quite wise to the
game you are playing.

I hardly believe you of all
> people would stifle anyone's speech, right?

Like I said, stuff it.
Jan Drew - 11 Mar 2008 04:10 GMT
>> > It is the same type of his usually moronic rants.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> youhaul out this bullshit whine about free speech. For the f*cking
> last time:

I challenge Mark S Probert to take this to his Rabbi.
Along with this.

Groups    View all web results »    Results 1 - 10 of about 1,290 for Mark
Probert free speech

> I support free speech far more than you, Ilena, the junk yard dog, or
> any of the a.shole alties do in this newsgoup.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Like I said, stuff it.
Bee - 11 Mar 2008 07:11 GMT
> I challenge Mark S Probert to take this to his Rabbi.
> Along with this.

Does he have a Rabbi?  How can you not go to church and still
have a Rabbi?
Mark Probert - 11 Mar 2008 12:33 GMT
> > I challenge Mark S Probert to take this to his Rabbi.
> > Along with this.
>
> Does he have a Rabbi?  How can you not go to church and still
> have a Rabbi?

Rabbis are not found in church.
Bee - 11 Mar 2008 07:09 GMT
> Stuff it Debster. Every time I comment about what someone says,
> youhaul out this bullshit whine about free speech. For the f*cking
> last time:

Is that a veiled threat?  Are you attempting to stifle my free speech,
or
my freedom of the press?      Whatever would Mrs. P say (if there is
indeed
a Mrs. P) about such language!!
Mark Probert - 11 Mar 2008 12:32 GMT
> On Mar 10, 7:29 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:> Stuff it Debster. Every time I comment about what someone says,
> > youhaul out this bullshit whine about free speech. For the f*cking
> > last time:
>
> Is that a veiled threat?  

Stuff it. Only amoron, such as yourself, would see that as a veiled
threat. Stop playing your stupid mind games.

Are you attempting to stifle my free speech,
> or
> my freedom of the press?      

See my previous comments, which you snipped. Your intellectual
dishonesty reeks of stupidity.

Whatever would Mrs. P say (if there is
> indeed
> a Mrs. P) about such language!!

Cut the crap. Ilena tried it, and only made helself look like a
stalker.
Jan Drew - 12 Mar 2008 03:43 GMT
On Mar 11, 2:09 am, Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 10, 7:29 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:> Stuff it
> Debster. Every time I comment about what someone says,
> > youhaul out this bullshit whine about free speech. For the f*cking
> > last time:
>
> Is that a veiled threat?

Stuff it. Only amoron, such as yourself, would see that as a veiled
threat. Stop playing your stupid mind games.

Are you attempting to stifle my free speech,
> or
> my freedom of the press?

See my previous comments, which you snipped. Your intellectual
dishonesty reeks of stupidity.

Whatever would Mrs. P say (if there is
> indeed
> a Mrs. P) about such language!!

Cut the crap. Ilena tried it, and only made helself look like a
stalker.
==
Mark get  spell checker.  Do you ever reread your posts before sending them?
Evidently you are too lazy.
Martin - 11 Mar 2008 22:05 GMT
>> It is the same type of his usually moronic rants.
>
>Is he not allowed free speech as you are?  I hardly believe you of all
>people would stifle anyone's speech, right?

I don't think he does. The only one around here who wants to do that
would be your buddie Timmie. He always wants to know people's personal
info, so can harrass them with subpoena's and what have you to try and
shut them up.
Bee - 11 Mar 2008 23:00 GMT
> I don't think he does. The only one around here who wants to do that
> would be your buddie Timmie. He always wants to know people's personal
> info, so can harrass them with subpoena's and what have you to try and
> shut them up.

My buddie---I've never even met the guy, and now he is "my buddie."
Now that's
hilarious!!

Martin, you really do need to get a life!
Mark Probert - 12 Mar 2008 02:02 GMT
> > I don't think he does. The only one around here who wants to do that
> > would be your buddie Timmie. He always wants to know people's personal
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> My buddie---I've never even met the guy, and now he is "my buddie."
> Now that's hilarious!!

Do you understand the concept of figurative speech? Of course not.

> Martin, you really do need to get a life!

Martin seems to have one.
Jan Drew - 12 Mar 2008 04:53 GMT
>Do you

You is not the subject.
D. C. Sessions - 12 Mar 2008 15:25 GMT
> My buddie---I've never even met the guy, and now he is "my buddie."

"Buddy" in the sense of "runs to the rescue whenever he's
in trouble."

| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
|    The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?"    |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
Bee - 12 Mar 2008 16:35 GMT
> > Bee:  My buddie---I've never even met the guy, and now he is "my buddie."
>
> "Buddy" in the sense of "runs to the rescue whenever he's
> in trouble."

That makes zero sense D.C.  I am my own person.  I agree with issues,
and I don't
agree with issues.  Being part of any side of the "camp" is not me.  I
agree with issues
or don't agree with issues--it has nothing to do with the person.   If
you want to journey
down that road---I would say you have a lot of "buddies," in this
newsgroup that are anti-alternative.
This is alternative health newsgroup --
D. C. Sessions - 12 Mar 2008 18:14 GMT
>> > Bee:  My buddie---I've never even met the guy, and now he is "my buddie."
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> down that road---I would say you have a lot of "buddies," in this newsgroup that are anti-alternative.
> This is alternative health newsgroup --

If you say so.

| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
|    The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?"    |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
Bee - 12 Mar 2008 20:06 GMT
> >Bee That makes zero sense D.C.  I am my own person.  I agree with issues, and I don't
> > agree with issues.  Being part of any side of the "camp" is not me.  I agree with issues
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> --
Yes, I say so.  A number of those that have posted from the anti-
alternative health or anti pro-choice group have indicated
that they have spoken to each other or have even met each other.
That's your choice, that would also be the choice of any of those that
are not part of your campaign.  I don't hang out or converse with
either side of the coin---and what I am saying is that when you have
the nerve to call me a 'buddy' of someone that I don't even know---I
find this to be a little disrespectful to myself and to the individual
that you are referring to as my alleged "buddy."

Deal with your own paranoia.
Mark Probert - 13 Mar 2008 04:37 GMT
> > >Bee That makes zero sense D.C.  I am my own person.  I agree with issues, and I don't
> > > agree with issues.  Being part of any side of the "camp" is not me.  I agree with issues
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Yes, I say so.  A number of those that have posted from the anti-
> alternative health or anti pro-choice

Anti-pro choice? Red herring. No one is anti choice. I am pro choice
with valid information.

group have indicated
> that they have spoken to each other or have even met each other.
> That's your choice, that would also be the choice of any of those that
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Deal with your own paranoia.
Mark Probert - 13 Mar 2008 04:36 GMT
> > > Bee:  My buddie---I've never even met the guy, and now he is "my buddie."
>
> > "Buddy" in the sense of "runs to the rescue whenever he's
> > in trouble."
>
> That makes zero sense D.C.

Actually, it makes perfect sense. You post your smokescreen messages,
e.g. this is for entertainment, etc., whenever one of you buddies is
on the coals.

 I am my own person.  I agree with issues,
> and I don't
> agree with issues.  Being part of any side of the "camp" is not me.  

You seem to be obsessed with this camp thing. You are the one
mentioning it.

I
> agree with issues
> or don't agree with issues--it has nothing to do with the person.   If
> you want to journey
> down that road---I would say you have a lot of "buddies," in this
> newsgroup that are anti-alternative.
> This is alternative health newsgroup --

AMerely being an alternative health group does not preclude posts
which show how bogus it is.
Bee - 13 Mar 2008 07:06 GMT
> Actually, it makes perfect sense. You post your smokescreen messages,
> e.g. this is for entertainment, etc., whenever one of you buddies is
> on the coals.

Smokescreen messages.  Now this is really getting entertaining.  I
have no buddies
here----it would appear those with buddies, are you and your numerous
friends that post
here.  This is an alternative health newsgroup.  People come to this
newsgroup for different
reasons---some of us share the same experiences, to share information
about alternative health,
and to share news.  The sad part is that "discussions" are impossible,
because there is always
this negative cloud hanging over this newsgroup, it is like soldiers
who were so traumatized by some
war that they had this unreal need to "keep fighting the enemy."
People that disagree with you, and
agree with others are not "the enemy," and there is no need to fight
them.  Yet it continues.  It would appear
to be this gigantic paranoia effort to get "the enemy" at all costs,
and keep people from exercising their right
to free expression.  It is a very selfish control effort.  Working in
the insurance field, and/or private investigation (by looking at what
appears to be your website from the information that was presented
here) does not give you the almighty right to step into newsgroups and
attempt to control people with your opinions.  Discussion is what the
newsgroups are for discussions.

This is why I view this newsgroup as for entertainment purposes only.
You really do make me laugh.  Your job, and what you do for a living,
should not be bleeding as much as it would appear into this
newsgroup.

> > You seem to be obsessed with this camp thing. You are the one
> mentioning it.

Let's try this again.  "Camp"----this is an alternative health
newsgroup---this is where people like to discuss alternative health
issues, this is also where people that do not like alternative health
issues comes and attack (not discuss) issues.
It reminds me of the game of ARMY---yet I cannot figure out which one
of the "WAR HEROS" is the real General in charge.    It is the
disrupting of the flow of the newsgroup---is what divides the
newsgroups into "camps."  It is pretty easy to see.    Because if the
anti-alternative individuals "didn't care," they would not be fighting
the individuals that clearly speak their mind on topics they are
familiar with or have an opinion about.  But it would appear that this
isn't the General's orders.

> AMerely being an alternative health group does not preclude posts
> which show how bogus it is.

Bogus?  Now, that's an interesting word coming from you.  You work for
in the insurance and do private investigation as part of your work as
you have claimed, investigating claims, etc.  You are not a doctor,
not in the health care world at all,
and you have the nerve to call Alt Health - bogus?  Why is that---
would it be because you only have experience in the insurance industry
with conventional medicine?
Mark Probert - 13 Mar 2008 11:03 GMT
> > Actually, it makes perfect sense. You post your smokescreen messages,
> > e.g. this is for entertainment, etc., whenever one of you buddies is
> > on the coals.
>
> Smokescreen messages.  Now this is really getting entertaining.

There ya go agin, being entertained.

 I
> have no buddies
> here----it would appear those with buddies, are you and your numerous
> friends that post
> here.  

That is what clear thinking does...promote healthy relationships.

This is an alternative health newsgroup.  People come to this
> newsgroup for different
> reasons---some of us share the same experiences, to share information
> about alternative health,
> and to share news.  

And not to share critical thinking skills.

The sad part is that "discussions" are impossible,
> because there is always
> this negative cloud hanging over this newsgroup, it is like soldiers
> who were so traumatized by some
> war that they had this unreal need to "keep fighting the enemy."

What a dumb analogy.

> People that disagree with you, and
> agree with others are not "the enemy,"

Correct. They are misguided victims.

and there is no need to fight
> them.

Yes, there are people who fight factual information. How sad for
them.

Yet it continues.  It would appear
> to be this gigantic paranoia effort to get "the enemy" at all costs,

True. Those people who consider the government, bigpharma, etc. the
enemy. The continually post their paranoid conspiracy ideas.

> and keep people from exercising their right
> to free expression.  

Another helping of red herring from you. You should really get help.
NO ONE, except those like Bolen, wife-contactors, junk yards dogs,
etc. is trying to do that.

> It is a very selfish control effort.  

I would agree. They are quite selfish and never seem to realize how
stupid they are.

Working in
> the insurance field, and/or private investigation (by looking at what
> appears to be your website from the information that was presented
> here)

WHAT WEBSITE IS THAT?

> does not give you the almighty right to step into newsgroups and
> attempt to control people with your opinions.  

You just love that red herring. Careful, the amount you spew is loaded
with mercury.

Discussion is what the
> newsgroups are for discussions.

And no one has said differenty.

> This is why I view this newsgroup as for entertainment purposes only.

Your above rant says otherwise.

> You really do make me laugh.  Your job, and what you do for a living,
> should not be bleeding as much as it would appear into this
> newsgroup.

Illogical.

> > > You seem to be obsessed with this camp thing. You are the one
> > mentioning it.
>
> Let's try this again.  "Camp"----this is an alternative health
> newsgroup--

I'll bring the marshmallows. You can provide the hot air, as you so
ably do.

-this is where people like to discuss alternative health
> issues, this is also where people that do not like alternative health
> issues comes and attack (not discuss) issues.

Attack? Nope. Questioning with logic and facts is not attacking. It
seems to upset you that there are those people who do not goose step
to the altie mantra.

> It reminds me of the game of ARMY---yet I cannot figure out which one
> of the "WAR HEROS" is the real General in charge.    It is the
> disrupting of the flow of the newsgroup

IOW, you are upset with the fact that there are people who do not
abide by the amen chorus. Some people like to sing solo.

---is what divides the
> newsgroups into "camps."  It is pretty easy to see.    Because if the
> anti-alternative individuals

No one in anti-altie. Just pro-fact.

"didn't care," they would not be fighting
> the individuals that clearly speak their mind on topics they are
> familiar with or have an opinion about.  But it would appear that this
> isn't the General's orders.

General Confusion?

> > Merely being an alternative health group does not preclude posts
> > which show how bogus it is.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> would it be because you only have experience in the insurance industry
> with conventional medicine?

No, dingy. I have carefully examined many aspects of what is called
"alternative" and I find it to be bogus. You just cannot fathom the
idea that someone can reach an independent conclusion that says that.
Jan Drew - 14 Mar 2008 01:39 GMT
> Bolen, wife-contactors, junk yards dogs

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/a91b2b0feda93112

Mar 7 2003

With spring about to be sprung, perhaps she will make a few cheep!
cheep! shots.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/15f8a5167d912e1e

Jan 14 2006

Only in your so-called mind is that a cheap shot

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/5be8583d59b019d4

Jun 12 2005

FOAD. Another cheap shot

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/1351dabb488983ac

Jun 8 2005

Like I said, you know I will not respond and then you re-post your cheap
shot.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/83ddc8c84b35d122

Jun 10 2005

Every time you post a cheap shot...every time you post only vaccine
scare stories...every time you post, basically...

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/26474efc7a437179

Oct 17 2006

However, I fully expect you to take your cheap shots as I have zero
regard for your character

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/2a389a50fc522172

Jan 6 2007

Cheap shot, asswipe.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/9d87f4bcfb56fb95

Oct 21 2006

This allegation is made by persons with whom I have a UDP in place. If
you comment as you have, you are taking a cheap shot at me, since I
cannot respond.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/c226502584da4bf7

Jul 16 2005

No, I was pointing out that according the Google's threading, you were
responding to PeterB with a cheap shot at Rich

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.handicap/msg/8e1fa62fdd4621e6

Jul 23 2005

OOOOOHhhh...cheap shot...try owning your own business like I do...

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/3d4337a927adb9db

Jun 8 2005

Like when you post a cheap shot?

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/c72f9a1b501ecb3b

Aug 16 2003

And, as predictable as sunrise, a cheap shot.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/a313b1e72a5d2995

Mar 31 2003

Could you explain, then, why you took a cheap shot at Nana, when the site
she posted was written by a Christian?

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/7aadff2b8ed7696f

Mar 16 2003

>>>>opportunity to make a cheap shot in an otherwise serious discussion.]
>>>>However, a direct response is warranted.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/fdba031f35f61cce

Feb 22 2003

That woudl be a cheap shot, and,
AFAIAC, not beyond you or Debbee.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/568bec83bbc01cba

Mar 18 2005

Subject changed: Jan Takes a Cheap Shot

http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.medicine/msg/c0fbaf114b1c5468

Jul 14 2001

Subject changed: HealthFraud / Board Monitor XXXX XXXXXXX Just Likes to
Whine & Stay Uninformed

Wow! What a cheap shot. I have been nice to you in m.k.h. I swore off
the name calling...you continued....

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/ee115dc63b417e96

Mar 25 2005

Subject changed: Cheap Shot

>You know what I mean, now stop harassing, it isn't my fault you couldn't
win
> a case in court, nor that you were disbarred.

Jan, plant your lips here:

http://tinyurl.com/6gwkt

You make a cheap shot when you could not even figure out who is saying what.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.dentistry/msg/3d6618e99f1697d2

Mar 25  2005

Subject changed: Cheap SHOT!

Can't answer, eh, except with a cheap shot?

Jan could not handle the fat that she posted something that proved her wrong
and that I pointed it out. I was polite and courteous, and she posted a
cheap shot on Good Friday.

Sad that.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/f33ec48a3513f655

Mar 30 2005

I also enjoy pointing out that you take cheap shots and are a usenet flame

W A R M O N G E R.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/417a183a1f387099

Mar 23 2004

IOW, you took a cheap shot, you cheap sh.t.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/3c5a7def3d9dbe3e

Dec 3 2002

Email: "Mark Probert" <mark_probertXYXYXYXYXYXY...@hotmail.com

So, you admit that you engage in cheap shots. Fair enough

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/a5c2b0980a30f238

Mar 30 2005

I C. So, your cheap shots are those of a nice person. Pardon me while I
laugh my a.s off.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/a0573010e3392a22

May 26 2005

You are an abuser and enabler of usenet's most despicable stalker. You
know I will not respond to anything she has posted, etc. However, you
take the cheap shots like you do.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/436f3f24d6d44fb5

Oct 8 2002

> IIena was right about you!

> http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/propagandistprobert.html

Cheap shot.

As expected from you. You are another one who stifles free speech.
Shame on you.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/8a8ab341f03bb0e4

Dec 27 2001

See how a cheap shot can hurt? Stop doing it to me, and others. You
asked for it. You invited it. You got it.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/19206b319d06d676

Dec 26 2003

See, that is your cheapest shot.
Richard Schultz - 13 Mar 2008 07:19 GMT
:> That makes zero sense D.C.
:
: Actually, it makes perfect sense. You post your smokescreen messages,
: e.g. this is for entertainment, etc., whenever one of you buddies is
: on the coals.

Actually, her usual smokescreen is "I cannot judge who is right" when
what is being discussed is a matter of fact, not of opinion.

-----
Richard Schultz                              schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."
Mark Probert - 13 Mar 2008 11:06 GMT
> In article <56e68d32-5ef9-4cc4-8fb4-ff8e07ff1...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Actually, her usual smokescreen is "I cannot judge who is right" when
> what is being discussed is a matter of fact, not of opinion.

Quite true. Debster is the perpetual fence sitting.

Old proverb says, person who sits one fence too long, has fence where
sun does not shine.
Jan Drew - 14 Mar 2008 01:33 GMT
"Mark Probert" <mark.probert@gmail.com
>  Debster  

Off-topic.  This thread is about Bowditch.
Jan Drew - 14 Mar 2008 01:31 GMT
"Richard Schultz" <schultr@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote >
> Actually, her

Off-topic.
> -----
> Richard Schultz                              schultr@mail.biu.ac.il
> Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
> Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
> -----
> "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."
Martin - 12 Mar 2008 20:54 GMT
>> I don't think he does. The only one around here who wants to do that
>> would be your buddie Timmie. He always wants to know people's personal
>> info, so can harrass them with subpoena's and what have you to try and
>> shut them up.
>
>My buddie---I've never even met the guy, and now he is "my buddie."

That's shame, because I was trying to trick you into giving that super
secret information - where Timmie lives. After all, it's soooo secret
that he can't tell during a deposition, so it must be real special. Oh
well, I guess I'll have to live with it (in a real home, not out in
the woods like some).

>Now that's hilarious!!
>
>Martin, you really do need to get a life!

But I have a life! It consists of posting here on behalf of Big
Pharma.
Bee - 12 Mar 2008 21:36 GMT
> That's shame, because I was trying to trick you into giving that super
> secret information - where Timmie lives. After all, it's soooo secret
> that he can't tell during a deposition, so it must be real special. Oh
> well, I guess I'll have to live with it (in a real home, not out in
> the woods like some).

Whatever are you talking about----drivel, drivel, drivel..he/she that
posts allegedly
out of New Zealand, but the pathway of your posts starts in Germany
and moves forward.

Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.germany.com!news.osn.de!
diablo2.news.osn.de!newsfeed0.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!eweka.nl!hq-
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Peter Bowditch - 13 Mar 2008 04:38 GMT
>> That's shame, because I was trying to trick you into giving that super
>> secret information - where Timmie lives. After all, it's soooo secret
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>out of New Zealand, but the pathway of your posts starts in Germany
>and moves forward.

New Zealand!! Bwahahahahhahahaha!!

Here's a hint, Debster - zeeland.nl doesn't refer to anywhere in the
southern hemisphere.

>Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.germany.com!news.osn.de!
>diablo2.news.osn.de!newsfeed0.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!eweka.nl!hq-
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>Organization: Zeeland.nl
>Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:54:07 +0100

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Bee - 13 Mar 2008 07:07 GMT
> >> That's shame, because I was trying to trick you into giving that super
> >> secret information - where Timmie lives. After all, it's soooo secret
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> >Organization: Zeeland.nl
> >Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:54:07 +0100

I know, after I posted--I realized it is the Netherlands.....
Mark Probert - 13 Mar 2008 11:04 GMT
> > >> That's shame, because I was trying to trick you into giving that super
> > >> secret information - where Timmie lives. After all, it's soooo secret
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
> I know, after I posted--I realized it is the Netherlands

Sure, Debster, sure.
Mark Probert - 13 Mar 2008 04:40 GMT
> > That's shame, because I was trying to trick you into giving that super
> > secret information - where Timmie lives. After all, it's soooo secret
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> Organization: Zeeland.nl
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:54:07 +0100

Let me explain....

Someone who is geographically and spelling challenged thought that
Zeeland is part of New Zeeland. They accused Martin of being a
specific Martin based on that.

The two Martins are poles apart, and I do not mean Poland.
Bee - 17 Mar 2008 06:14 GMT
> ThetwoMartinsare poles apart, and I do not mean Poland.

I was talking with a friend the other day on the telephone
and we were talking about fashion ---do you know there there is a
clothing
manufacturer with the name, "The Two Martins" producing only organic
cotton clothing for the environmentally health conscience folks?
We've only
heard about the clothing line, but not been able to actually find it--
his wife is
disabled and we were talking about breathe-able fabrics.

I thought there was only one Martin here--the one that lived in
Aussieland, that according to
Wiki also had lived in the Netherlands....They have the same nickname
that they post with....
this is really confusing....
Mark Probert - 12 Mar 2008 02:00 GMT
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:29:55 -0700 (PDT), Bee
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I don't think he does. The only one around here who wants to do that
> would be your buddie Timmie.

Incorrect.There are others. Not me, however. I love the free
marketplace of ideas. I served my country to protect it.

He always wants to know people's personal
> info, so can harrass them with subpoena's and what have you to try and
> shut them up.

You have an uncanny grasp of the obvious. Care to speculate why anyone
would contact the spouses of two men in thie newsgroups?
Peter Bowditch - 12 Mar 2008 02:49 GMT
>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:29:55 -0700 (PDT), Bee
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>You have an uncanny grasp of the obvious. Care to speculate why anyone
>would contact the spouses of two men in thie newsgroups?

Mr O'Neill rang my home when he knew I was out of the country and used
words starting with "f" and "c" to my wife.

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Jan Drew - 12 Mar 2008 05:00 GMT
>>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:29:55 -0700 (PDT), Bee
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Mr O'Neill rang my home when he knew I was out of the country and used
> words starting with "f" and "c" to my wife.

lol.  Words she hears from YOU!!!
Bee - 12 Mar 2008 06:02 GMT
> Mr O'Neill rang my home when he knew I was out of the country and used
> words starting with "f" and "c" to my wife.

Firetruck and Caboose?
Jan Drew - 12 Mar 2008 04:43 GMT
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:29:55 -0700 (PDT), Bee
> <Butterflies2222@gmail.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I don't think he does.

Big surprise...

<snip diversion>
Martin - 10 Mar 2008 17:37 GMT
>> Mr. O'Neill, I'd really like to know why you are posting anonymously
>> when just about everybody here knows exactly who and what you are. It
>> really is pathological, isn't it. Have you considered donating your
>> brain to science?
>
>Answer:  Because whomever is posting--"CAN."

Wrong answer. I CAN poke a sharp object into my eye, but guess what,
I'm not doing it. And neither are you (I hope).

>How would you know it is even him???

I see you don't have much experience with Mr. O'Neill, like you don't
have experience with many things.
Peter Bowditch - 09 Mar 2008 22:43 GMT
>Every time Tim Bolen posts facts about CrazyTerry Polevoy,
>IncontinentStephen Barrett, Or CrankyBobby Baratz, poor
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>And of course BlowDitch will respond with more lies..and his
>usual buttplugg aupporters will line up to defend his greatness.....

Hello Mr O'Neill.

Keep the jokes coming. Is business slack at your quackery clinic?
Killed any "patients" lately? (It was the eighth anniversary of one of
those killings last week but I expect you forgot.) Been caught lying
on television recently?

For those unaware of Mr O'Neill you can see his work at
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/ccrg.htm

Don't forget to follow the links to
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/onews/onews.htm and
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/onews/gal.htm

Enjoy! Laugh at him.

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jurimed2@yahoo.com - 11 Mar 2008 14:00 GMT
> >Every time Tim Bolen posts facts about CrazyTerry Polevoy,
> >IncontinentStephen Barrett, Or CrankyBobby Baratz, poor
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

poor peter:

You know, I'm curious about why your anger level seems to go up so
high once this anonymous poster comes around.  It seems this person
knows things about you that you really don't want to comment on.  Why
is that?

Hmmmm....

I think, peter, you should respond directly to the things this person
is saying.  For instance:  Do your children actually have restraining
orders against you?  If so, why is that?

Did you recently move from one rental to another?  Why?

I am not interested, however, to hear about your activities
surrounding "buttplugs" and/or those you have as "buttplug
supporters."  You can keep that to yourself...

Curious but amused, in California...

Tim Bolen
Peter Bowditch - 12 Mar 2008 00:23 GMT
>> >Every time Tim Bolen posts facts about CrazyTerry Polevoy,
>> >IncontinentStephen Barrett, Or CrankyBobby Baratz, poor
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>>
>> --

>> - Show quoted text -
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>knows things about you that you really don't want to comment on.  Why
>is that?

Anger level? I am always polite to Mr O'Neill, and in fact find him
quite amusing. If I id not, why would I reproduce his ranting's on my
web site?

>Hmmmm....
>
>I think, peter, you should respond directly to the things this person
>is saying.  For instance:  Do your children actually have restraining
>orders against you?

No, and if they did neither Mr O'Neill nor you would have any way of
knowing.

>  If so, why is that?
>
>Did you recently move from one rental to another?

No. I am still at the address which has been listed in the telephone
book since 1981. The house is not rented. I rent an office elsewhere
for a project that I am engaged in.

>  Why?
>
>I am not interested, however, to hear about your activities
>surrounding "buttplugs" and/or those you have as "buttplug
>supporters."  You can keep that to yourself...

Perhaps you could ask Mr O'Neill about his obsession with butt plugs.
He might be at the next cancer quack convention, where he could
compare notes with other frauds like, EEG, Hulda Clark.

>Curious but amused, in California...
>
>Tim Bolen

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