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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / March 2008Understanding the decision
Three articles that clearly explain the decision to settle, and why this decision is not relevant to Autism or vaccines: http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php?p=203 http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/mg19726464.100-autism-payout-reignite s-vaccine-controversy.html?feedId=online-news_rss20 http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Controversy_Veils_Courts_Ruling_in_Autism_Case_14 881.html If it is too much bother for you to read these articles, just say so, and start the personal attacks. > Three articles that clearly explain the decision to settle, and why > this decision is not relevant to Autism or vaccines: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > If it is too much bother for you to read these articles, just say so, > and start the personal attacks. I have read all three (and many more). I have never never personally attacked you unlike you calling me an a.shole and a nutter as well as other select insults and comments from others in your "gang" Indeed this is a complex issue. I have stated this before.There are many unknowns and that is why caution should be used instead of blanket statements that vaccines are safe is absurd. Thimerosol or other components in the vaccines themselves may work alone or in synergy to cause or contribute to autism in certain individuals. It is understandable why the government would want to settle. The atorney for this family wanted to take this further and present evidence relating to thimerosol etc. but he said on Larry King last night that due to the concession he could not do so. I do not know whether it was the family that declined to move forward or some other government regulations, It would have been informative to have all of the data discussed and this case seen through to completion and not settled. When the government claimed that dioxin in Agent orange posed no health effects to humans, they had top scientists testify before congress stating stating that dioxin did not pose a health threat to humans. Tell that to the Vietnam Vets that have suffered from exposure. The government also claimed that the twin tower disaster site was not toxic. Tell that to all of the people who are ill or who have died. The government claimed that there was no such thing as Gulf War syndrome. Tell that to all of the Veterans and their families that have become ill or who have died. (The government now finally acknowledges Gulf Was Syndrome as a disease state) This has happened before and will hapen again when financial interests are put ahead of health and safety. These are human beings. Real people. We may not fully understand all of the causative factors of autism. But we certainly shoud practice caution when there is enough doubt about possible causative agents. > I have read all three (and many more). I have never never personally > attacked you unlike you calling me an a.shole and a nutter as well as > other select insults and comments from others in your "gang" Blatantly untrue. As has been repeatedly pointed out. | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > In message <4af86742-b895-4e5f-a3a7-c29db1986...@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | > +---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ Dear Mr. Washington D.C.: Yeah, right. You can call me anything that you want but when you make the statement, "Are you still molesting your patients" that spaeks volumes about you and is totally unaccptable. Anyway, how about the rest of the post that is the real issue? I assume that you will say that is all "blatantly untrue" >> In message <4af86742-b895-4e5f-a3a7-c29db1986...@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > the statement, "Are you still molesting your patients" that spaeks > volumes about you and is totally unaccptable. Special pleading: you see nothing wrong with asking others whether they've stopped beating their wives, but get all bent out of shape when someone else gives an example of the same tactic when it's pointed at you. Well, some people are Special. You can spot Special People by the fact that the same rules that apply to others don't apply to them. For instance, Special People drive solo in the car-pool lanes. Special People get to use those wheelchair parking spaces to save time because they're late for a tennis match. Special People have parking reserved for them -- you can spot it by the red paint on the curb. Special People can throw insults around and then have every right to get huffy when others don't recognize their Special Place in the Scheme of Things by bowing down and accepting their inferior status. > Anyway, how about the rest of the post that is the real issue? > I assume that you will say that is all "blatantly untrue" When you start out by telling others that you don't have any respect for them, then there's not much point in responding. | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > In message <3a846b76-85e6-4d37-8411-08cdd2740...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | > +---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ Stop beating your wife was Probert's flawed comparison. You are again diverting again as usual with statements that evade the issue and are projecting. Further, I never insulted anybody. If asking who is paying you is insulting, that is a stretch and no comparison to your statement about molesting patients. You can use this excuse to avoid answering the question since you do not have a good answer. When in doubt, punt. You are good at that. Apperently others do not think there is a comparison either. > Further, I never insulted anybody. If asking who is paying you is > insulting, that is a stretch and no comparison to your statement about > molesting patients. *YOU* may not be insulted by being accused of posting for pay. Others are honest. As for "[my] statement about molesting patients," I never made one. I just asked if you'd stopped. It's a simple yes-or-no question, just like the ones you insist others should answer. Your emotional overreaction just shows that a rational discussion with you isn't in the cards. Especially since you don't seem to grasp the basic concepts of logical discussion, such as /reductio ad absurdem./ | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ On Mar 7, 12:13 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > > In message <3a846b76-85e6-4d37-8411-08cdd2740...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I absolutely love your humorous posts!!! Stating that I insult people...good for a giggle. Proclaiming my "inferior status" To whom? You? Not a giggle there. Instead a full belly laugh. You ae so predictable at avoiding the issue. Bee was right in geting the popcorn out and enjoying the show Thanks for the entertainment . Cheers.. > I absolutely love your humorous posts!!! > Stating that I insult people...good for a giggle. See? Nothing to get stressed about, just yes/no questions. Although you never did say if you'd stopped. > Proclaiming my "inferior status" You? Inferior? Never. You're Special. | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > In message <a59aae86-5b72-4611-8e32-f078ecec8...@13g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | > +---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ LOL, LOL, LOL. Thanks for the entertainment. I could not be more calm. It appears that you are wearing the clothes of life a bit tight. As I have said, I do not care what you say about me and I am certainly not emotional about your posts. The only one I find offensive is the one about molesting patients. If you cannot see the difference between your post, which is an out of the blue irrelevant attempt to defame, and my post, there are remedial courses in logic that you can take. Cheers. > I could not be more calm. Wow -- all that frantic posting about your personal indignation and you're calm. Dude, stay away from the caffeine. > As I have said, I do not care what you say about me and I am certainly > not emotional about your posts. Immediately contradicted by: > The only one I find offensive is the one about molesting patients. Well, sure -- it's about *you*. Obviously there's no point in getting bothered by _your_ insults to anyone else. > If you cannot see the difference between your post, Which illustrated your posting style turned around on you > which is an out of > the blue irrelevant attempt to defame, and my post, Which was an out of the blue irrelevant attempt to defame *SOMEONE ELSE* > there are remedial courses in logic that you can take. Yup, special pleading. Then again, your really are Special. | The word of the day is, "narcisicism" | + D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> + > In message <e0262ee6-e7f6-4033-a036-6ae257ec5...@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > | The word of the day is, "narcisicism" | > + D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> + Dear Washington D.C. Funy indeed and quite the rambling post. Now answer the qustions if you wish to get back on topic. Cheers > Now answer the qustions if you wish to get back on topic. I have no more idea of who's paying Debbee to post than I do of whether you've stopped molesting patients. As for any other questions, they've not been clarified to the point where a meaningful response is possible. If you'd like to clarify those to the point that they're more than emotionally-loaded rhetorical rallying cries, by all means do so. | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > In message <072f967c-49ca-48f8-ba46-1ed0560bc...@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | > +---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ Emotionally loaded. That is too funny!! I love your posts. Cheers On Mar 7, 2:21 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > > In message <072f967c-49ca-48f8-ba46-1ed0560bc...@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Dear Washingto D.C. Would you give your child 9 vaccines at one time? Would it matter to you if the vaccines had thimerosol in them? If not, would you prefer thm to be thimerosol free vaccines. This question focuses on thimerosol but there may be other problems with numerous vaccines such as immune adjuncts, other contaminants, and excessive stress on an immature immune system to name just a few. I hope this question is not to "emotionally loaded" for you. On Mar 7, 2:28 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > On Mar 7, 2:21 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Washington D.C.: You asked for simplified questions. I gave you a couple. Still no answer from you. On Mar 7, 11:28 am, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > Dear Washingto D.C. Every time you put this out there -- I think of that FBI director, I think, he was with the Reagan administration---I seem to recall his name was William Sessions. He was asked to resign under the Clinton/Reno mess, and he refused so they fired him. Every time you write "Washington DC," in a post to DC Sessions -- it always brings that up-----in my mind....Then there is William Sessions, isn't that also a senator, and Jeff Sessions from Alabama----so it really does sound like a Congressional Sessions group----- his name is "DC"---please do not call him Washington D.C. -- I think it is along the lines of being rude... Aren't you supposed to be some kind of professional medical doctor? > On Mar 7, 11:28 am, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > rude... > Aren't you supposed to be some kind of professional medical doctor? Hello Bee: I certainly do not want to be rude to D.C. (Or rude to anybody for that matter) . Just trying to have some harmless fun. Since he refuses to reveal his name (why, I still do not know unless he has something to hide) I ,apparently like you, thought of his ailias D.C, Sessions relating to William Sessions. It just kept sticking in my mind. I'll drop it. Anyway, I am a professional and can yes I can legitamely use the title of Doctor. Sorry if I offended you. Cheers On Mar 7, 5:11 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > > On Mar 7, 11:28 am, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I also apologize if I offended D.C. Sessions. Not my intention. > I also apologize if I offended D.C. Sessions. Your amusement at my name isn't anything that I didn't get used to by second grade. | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > Since he refuses to reveal his name (why, I still do not know unless > he has something to hide) I ,apparently like you, thought of his > ailias D.C, Sessions relating to William Sessions. It just kept > sticking in my mind. Enjoy your fantasies. That, or do some basic research. My name isn't hard to find for those who look. For instance, Mark Probert was able to find my telephone number with no real difficulty. | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > In message <e76588b3-9cb0-4d58-b9f7-7ce304a55...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | > +---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ That is not the point. It is very simple to just tell us your name. Do you meet new people at a party and say, Hi, My name is D.C. Sessions. It is not my real name.Don't bother to ask what my real name is. I am not going to tell you. If you want to know my real name you must investigate to find out. To each his own. > That is not the point. > It is very simple to just tell us your name. Yes it is. Get a clue. | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > In message <6d9420c1-2e4f-4eca-9741-a64030347...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | > +---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ I would prefer that you answer the question about whether you would vaccinate your child with 9 vaccinations at one time. Also, does a vaccine that contains thimerosol make a difference to you. If you had a choice would you choose a vaccine that contains thimerosol or one that does not? RE: your name. I already have a clue. > I would prefer that you answer the question about whether you would > vaccinate your child with 9 vaccinations > at one time. Moot point -- they were always on schedule. Since I'm sure you'll rephrase and repeat, I'll observe that the only reason I'd avoid that many at a time is out of concern for the poor kid getting that many holes in hir skin. One shot is a surprise, two can be over quickly, but nine? Plenty of time to get wound up. As for the usual reasons given, they just don't add up. Literally. > Also, does a vaccine that contains thimerosol make a difference to > you. If you had a choice would you choose a vaccine that contains > thimerosol or one that does not? Absolutely a non-issue. | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > In message <a9c79799-46ab-4700-afb0-6e805aec4...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | > +---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ Thank you for your answer. Now we know your position. I am glad that your children did not suffer ill effects > I am glad that your children did not suffer ill effects How would you know that? | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > In message <72b3b018-ff02-428a-8c98-e502a4cc9...@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | > +---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ If they did I would find it very strange for you to support what you said. No sane person would support what you have said if your children suffered ill effects. It would be absurd. Kind of a silly question, isn't it? > If they did I would find it very strange for you to support what you > said. Only to the irrational. > No sane person would support what you have said if your children > suffered ill effects. If it's right, it's right. > It would be absurd. For some, rationality is absurd. > Kind of a silly question, isn't it? Are we back to the insults? | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > In message <fa3101a4-43ac-41a1-8f2b-8904906b3...@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | > +---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ I think you are stretching the claim of an insult when you think my statement about a silly question applies. I certaily would not take that as an insult if directed at me. No insult intended. If your skin is thatthin then I apologize. On Mar 7, 8:29 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > > In message <72b3b018-ff02-428a-8c98-e502a4cc9...@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > It would be absurd. > Kind of a silly question, isn't it? You answer is kind of silly. Myyounger son has a friend who developed polio from the OPV. She had a mild case, lost some function in one arm. Her younger siblings all had the OPV at her parents insistence. Why? Because they have an older family member who had full blown polio affecting both legs. On Mar 7, 8:29 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > > In message <72b3b018-ff02-428a-8c98-e502a4cc9...@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > It would be absurd. > Kind of a silly question, isn't it? I have not read the archives and was totally unawre of D.C 's children. I am now and I am sorry about my post. I certainly would not have made statements about your children had I known. Please forgive me D.C. I am very sorry. > I have not read the archives and was totally unawre of D.C 's > children. > I am now and I am sorry about my post. I certainly > would not have made statements about your children had I known. > Please forgive me D.C. > I am very sorry. I'm not sorry for my kids and the question wasn't in the least a problem -- it was simply irrelevant. | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > I have not read the archives and was totally unawre of D.C 's > children. > I am now and I am sorry about my post. I certainly > would not have made statements about your children had I known. > Please forgive me D.C. > I am very sorry. Thank you for apologizing to Bud--I'm sure he appreciates it. > On Mar 7, 8:29 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Please forgive me D.C. > I am very sorry Class. On Mar 7, 4:45 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > Thank you for your answer. > Now we know your position. > I am glad that your children did not suffer ill effects Dr K., how do you know that?? You couldn't possibly be talking about DC kids---either that or you didn't bother to read the archives as he invited someone here to do. > Dr K., how do you know that?? You couldn't possibly be talking about > DC kids---either that or you didn't bother to read the archives as he > invited > someone here to do. There you go again trying to take MHA seriously. Keep telling yourself, "it's theatre, it's theatre." | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ > In message <8a4a3bba-51ea-4d02-a1a9-95c6b9b27...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Bee wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | > +---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ It's comedic theatre On Mar 7, 8:31 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > > In message <8a4a3bba-51ea-4d02-a1a9-95c6b9b27...@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Bee wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > It's comedic theatre Dr K: It is actually "Tragic" theater. Look at the reality of who(m) you're dealing with in "Probert," for instance. Then there's AC/DC Sessions, suffering from life changing trauma, like divorce, employment rejection, etc., and you come up with people stuugling to sense their own worth, and not finding what they'd hoped. AC/DC uses the typical "skeptic" looped argument - and cannot, obviously, carry on a discussion. So, don't bother. I don't think AC/DC is of note. He's escaped, I think, because of severe personal problems, into a semi-fantasy world, where his verson of a "sword" is an ingenuous low grade mental masturbation. With you, he knows he's out of his league, and this disturbs him, for the internet has become his refuge, and his distraction from his unsolvable personal problems. Here, I think, he plays his own version of "Dungeons and Dragons." But, there is danger, for, surely, you've sensed the mental decay. If they threaten you personally, take it seriously. I've put a ring of high security around Hulda Clark when she travels because of these nut jobs. Dead serious in California... Tim Bolen On Mar 9, 11:20 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Mar 7, 8:31 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Dead between the ears in the woods in California. >On Mar 7, 8:31 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >AC/DC uses the typical "skeptic" looped argument - and cannot, >obviously, carry on a discussion. So, don't bother. I'm sure the readership here has noted your own mental stability, and your use of the facts (oh, all right, the lack thereof in both cases) and can interpret your postings accordingly. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?" -- Bill Maher . > I'm sure the readership here has noted your own mental stability, and > your use of the facts (oh, all right, the lack thereof in both cases) > and can interpret your postings accordingly. I think we need to send him to College someplace (one he can remember the name of), for some religious studies classes --- anyone got any ideas? Someone else can track down the year, classes, and times he went--and then at his next deposition---one of you guys can flash clue cards!! LOL > On Mar 7, 4:45 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > invited > someone here to do. Super point. If Dr. K had lurked and read some of the archives.... > > On Mar 7, 4:45 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > If Dr. K had lurked and read some of the archives.... I did not read every archive. Not even close. I prefered to address the current issues. On Mar 7, 9:30 pm, Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 7, 4:45 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > invited > someone here to do. Super point. If Dr. K had lurked and read some of the archives.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ March Madness excuse down the drain. 231 and it is only March 7th. > On Mar 7, 4:45 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > invited > someone here to do. No I did not read the archives. I assumed that if he thinks that it is OK to give thimerosol that his kids were OK. I also assumed that it would have been mentioned in the post. I have not looked at all the aarchives. I do not see the problem here. > I assumed that if he thinks that it is OK to give thimerosol that his > kids were OK. Absolutely does not follow. | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ On Mar 7, 7:45 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > > In message <a9c79799-46ab-4700-afb0-6e805aec4...@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Now we know your position. > I am glad that your children did not suffer ill effects- Neither did mine. The only ill effects related to vaccines that I am aware of are those who forego vaccines. On Mar 7, 7:45 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > On Mar 7, 7:31 pm, "D. C. Sessions" <d...@lumbercartel.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Now we know your position. > I am glad that your children did not suffer ill effects- Neither did mine. The only ill effects related to vaccines that I am aware of are those who forego vaccines. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blatant lie. http://www.909shot.com/Kids/terry.htm http://www.909shot.com/Kids/anna.htm http://www.909shot.com/Kids/richie.htm http://www.909shot.com/Kids/nicky.htm On Mar 7, 6:54 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > > In message <6d9420c1-2e4f-4eca-9741-a64030347...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > vaccinate your child with 9 vaccinations > at one time. If the vaccine was approved, I would. > Also, does a vaccine that contains thimerosol make a difference to > you. Nope. Not at all. If you had a choice would you choose a vaccine that contains > thimerosol or one that does not? Nope. At those doses, it is harmless. > RE: your name. I already have a clue. On Mar 7, 6:54 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > On Mar 7, 6:26 pm, "D. C. Sessions" <d...@lumbercartel.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > vaccinate your child with 9 vaccinations > at one time. If the vaccine was approved, I would. > Also, does a vaccine that contains thimerosol make a difference to > you. Nope. Not at all. If you had a choice would you choose a vaccine that contains > thimerosol or one that does not? Nope. At those doses, it is harmless. http://www.909shot.com/Kids/terry.htm http://www.909shot.com/Kids/anna.htm http://www.909shot.com/Kids/richie.htm http://www.909shot.com/Kids/nicky.htm > RE: your name. I already have a clue. On Mar 7, 6:13 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > > In message <e76588b3-9cb0-4d58-b9f7-7ce304a55...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > If you want to know my real name you must investigate to find out. > To each his own Merely because Timmie Blowhard says it is a fictitious name, does not mean that it is fictitious. Timme Blowhard has relaity problems. He loses his enuous grip every time he types. > In message <e76588b3-9cb0-4d58-b9f7-7ce304a55...@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > instance, Mark Probert was able to find my telephone > number with no real difficulty. But you were in the shower! Remember, I hunt people for a living. Years ago, I dealt with them far differently than I do today. However, one scamming employer may wish that I used the old methods. I spent all day at the grand jury, and, from their questions, I know that they "got it". Also, the true bill in sixteen minutes was a pleasant surprise. I was not even out of the parking lot when the ass't DA called me. He is still blown away at how I presented his case for insurance premium fraud involving undocumented workers. Six testimonies, six indictments. Like the old days, head shots, no misses. > In message > <e76588b3-9cb0-4d58-b9f7-7ce304a551be@n77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > instance, Mark Probert was able to find my telephone > number with no real difficulty. LOL!! *YOU* provide him with lumbercartel, or is it l*i*mbercartel, or l*y*mbercartel?? > | The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" | > | The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" | > +---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+ On Mar 7, 2:28 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > On Mar 7, 2:21 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > - Show quoted text - So D.C. Are these questions worded simply enough? I see that you still have not answerd them. On Mar 7, 6:15 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > On Mar 7, 2:28 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Mark Probert didn't have to look anything up to find out who you really are. On Mar 7, 6:24 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > On Mar 7, 6:15 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > Mark Probert didn't have to look anything up to find out who you > really are True. I accepted DCS' statements at face value. Several years later, when I thought I may visit his neck of the woods, I looked up his phone number and spoke with his then wife. > I have no more idea of who's paying Debbee to post than I > do of whether you've stopped molesting patients. As for > any other questions, they've not been clarified to the > point where a meaningful response is possible. That would be a lie--DC--no one pays me to post, nor tells me what to post or not to post. Believe it or not, I'm my own person. But when people put information out there -- that may or may not true--- I want to know if it is true or not - especially when people are claiming people have molested people -- that rubs me the wrong way...... By all means, DC, I think you owe me an apology for even alluding that someone could be paying me to post... >> I have no more idea of who's paying Debbee to post than I >> do of whether you've stopped molesting patients. As for [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > claiming > people have molested people -- that rubs me the wrong way...... I'm not aware of any accusations of molestation except for Cee's rants on the subject. Perhaps you've tuned out on those. > By all means, DC, I think you owe me an apology for even alluding > that someone could be paying me to post... Oh, dear me -- how _were_ we to know that you, unique of all who post on MHA, are so Special that none dare even allude to you doing what you accuse others of. But wait -- weren't you just counseling others to not take anything here seriously? | Talk to the gavel, 'cause the badge ain't listenin' | +------ D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------+ > I'm not aware of any accusations of molestation except > for Cee's rants on the subject. Perhaps you've tuned > out on those. D. C. First, there is clarification needed--too many people are quick to accuse doctors or dentists of this task---If Cee said then made the rant -- and others followed suit, and if it is not true, this isn't cool. > Oh, dear me -- how _were_ we to know that you, unique > of all who post on MHA, are so Special that none dare > even allude to you doing what you accuse others of. Oh dear you - back at you, PAL. ---- > But wait -- weren't you just counseling others to not > take anything here seriously? You cannot take anything here seriously---the stuff flows in and out----one side says this and one side says that --- it is confusing, to attempt to read---but if I know the game that is being played (by both sides), its that way on purpose - so that there are so many posts that no one wants to read any of it......and they just go on. I realize that some of you are playing chess or battleship or in some cases it is a war---it is not always the biggest army that wins--it isn't always the army with the most sophisticated technology that wins---what takes places here daily is an "exchange of power," in some instances the mind control games are quite prevelant, you have to sit back and laugh at it----- Bolen has just admitted to have been a soldier---Probert and some of the others here served in that same war-----they were on the same side when they were in that same war---and they should all still be united. But they are not---why? What about all of the vaccines given to soldiers over the years---what was in those?? Anyone know anyone that was high up in the VA??? Knowing Admiral Zumwalt--was a real eye opener----he was generally concerned for the Veterans of this country -- and pushed for the release of the information about Agent Orange---think of all of the solvents, airborne dusts, mists, bacteria, viruses, etc., that our country's soldiers have been exposed to over the years and the civilian workers all under the guise that "everything was safe." If you want to fight against alternative health care in this country, some of treatments that are available to help people -- are alternative -- so that they can get well. Do the Veterans in our country that have suffered deserve a better life, and better health in their golden years? I think so....if not, you are denying soldiers, and veterans the opportunity to get their health back to the absolute best there is---no more suffering of allergies, chemical reactions, stress disorders, etc. By all means, fight against alternative health care---every time you do, you are fighting against something that has been proven to help individuals with chemical sensitivity issues, and you might as well spit on the flag and at the Veterans in our country---this is the land of the FREE, and the home of the brave. Bolen's right--every now and then -- chickens run--true American's fight back. > In message > <00ad387c-a660-4c89-aef5-4388e051f8f2@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, Bee [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > for Cee's rants on the subject. Perhaps you've tuned > out on those. http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/3ed9453e4d37c5ff From: "D. C. Sessions" <d...@lumbercartel.com> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 07:54:44 -0700 Local: Wed, Mar 5 2008 9:54 am Have you stopped molesting patients? >> By all means, DC, I think you owe me an apology for even alluding >> that someone could be paying me to post... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -- On Mar 7, 9:24 am, drkul...@optonline.net wrote: > I absolutely love your humorous posts!!! > Stating that I insult people...good for a giggle. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Cheers.. DUH....Dr K---did the light bulb just go on????? That's why I've told everyone to lighten up and enjoy the entertainment. This is not real---this isn't a civilized discussion and exchange of information. These are people with serious control issues in their lives - These are people that only see black and white---the yes and no mentality. The only way you can really get into this newsgroup is laugh---- it is funny------and as long as you put it in the perspective of entertainment--you are fine. You aren't going to get people to understand your viewpoints -- they have been programmed not to understand it. They've only been programmed to dispute everything you say--- Original ideas or common sense does not enter the equation at all. It is merely just dots on a computer screen. And contrary to what you may have heard in the grocery store line or at the bowling alley on Saturday night-- the person with the most dots doesn't win--- Now, go find some real popcorn (you know the kind you have to pop yourself) Find some real butter (the kind from a dairy, if there is still one in your neck of the woods). Sit back and enjoy the show.... Pop that popcorn, and relax... > In message > <4af86742-b895-4e5f-a3a7-c29db1986ae4@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Blatantly untrue. As has been repeatedly pointed out. Note, Douglas condones Mark S Probert's name calling. This has repeatedly been pointed out. Groups View all web results » Results 1 - 10 of about 1,090 for Mark Probert "a.shole" Groups View all web results » Results 1 - 10 of about 2,640 for Mark Probert "moron" Groups View all web results » Results 1 - 10 of about 2,410 for Mark Probert " idiot" Groups View all web results » Results 1 - 10 of 192 for Mark Probert "FOAD" Groups View all web results » Results 1 - 10 of 517 for Mark Probert "lymbercartel. com" Groups View all web results » Results 1 - 10 of about 2,040 for Mark Probert "limbercartel. com" That's just for starters. On Mar 7, 8:38 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > Three articles that clearly explain the decision to settle, and why > this decision is not relevant to Autism or vaccines: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > If it is too much bother for you to read these articles, just say so, > and start the personal attacks. I have read all three (and many more). I have never never personally attacked you unlike you calling me an a.shole and a nutter as well as other select insults and comments from others in your "gang" Indeed this is a complex issue. I have stated this before.There are many unknowns and that is why caution should be used instead of blanket statements that vaccines are safe is absurd. Thimerosol or other components in the vaccines themselves may work alone or in synergy to cause or contribute to autism in certain individuals. It is understandable why the government would want to settle. The atorney for this family wanted to take this further and present evidence relating to thimerosol etc. but he said on Larry King last night that due to the concession he could not do so. I do not know whether it was the family that declined to move forward or some other government regulations, It would have been informative to have all of the data discussed and this case seen through to completion and not settled. When the government claimed that dioxin in Agent orange posed no health effects to humans, they had top scientists testify before congress stating stating that dioxin did not pose a health threat to humans. Tell that to the Vietnam Vets that have suffered from exposure. The government also claimed that the twin tower disaster site was not toxic. Tell that to all of the people who are ill or who have died. The government claimed that there was no such thing as Gulf War syndrome. Tell that to all of the Veterans and their families that have become ill or who have died. (The government now finally acknowledges Gulf Was Syndrome as a disease state) This has happened before and will hapen again when financial interests are put ahead of health and safety. These are human beings. Real people. We may not fully understand all of the causative factors of autism. But we certainly shoud practice caution when there is enough doubt about possible causative agents. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Organized medicine and the government does get caught in their many lies. Pays for their misleading information. The number one rule is.. NEVER ADMIT ANY WRONG DOING. No matter how many kids are damaged for life...and even death. They must not change their position above all. It's always about $$$$ and vested interest. The vaccine courts looked at the scientific evidence that was presented to them, They decided that yes there was a connection, Thats why they didnt waste tax payers money and conceded. > Three articles that clearly explain the decision to settle, and why > this decision is not relevant to Autism or vaccines: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > If it is too much bother for you to read these articles, just say so, > and start the personal attacks. > The vaccine courts looked at the scientific evidence that was > presented to them, They decided that yes there was a connection, Thats [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thank you for bringing this thread back to the issue where it belongs. > Three articles that clearly explain the decision to settle, and why > this decision is not relevant to Autism or vaccines: Translation: The three agree with Mark S Probert's decision. This is L I E S: this decision is not relevant to Autism or vaccines.. > Translation: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > this decision is not relevant to Autism or vaccines.. Jan, I am really getting of you picking on Mark Probert. Wash you mouth out with soap---better yet with Mercury!! On Mar 7, 8:07 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Translation: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > this decision is not relevant to Autism or vaccines.. Jan, I am really getting of you picking on Mark Probert. Wash you mouth out with soap---better yet with Mercury!! Say what? I've had all the mercury out of my mouth the ONLY place it is safe. LOL! Soap ruins my popcorn! |
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