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Dr K - I see you've met the Nitwit Brigade...

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jurimed2@yahoo.com - 04 Mar 2008 14:18 GMT
Dr K:

I was very pleased to see someone of your professional stature raise
such an important question about the injection of mercury, the mostly
deadly of neurotoxins, into the defenseless bodies of America's
children - for money.

It must have amazed you that not one of these people actually answered
your inquiry.  Instead they insulted you.

You've just met one of the internet's embarrassments - the
proliferation of "fake identities" commenting on subjects.

It should have become clear to you that each and every of those "fake
identity"commentators would indeed, if allowed to proceed without
penalty, forcibly hold down a child, and inject the total scum of
vaccaination into that child, by the gallon if they could, just to
watch, like Mengele, the suffering, and the permanent damage they
inflicted.

What I find also amazing is that some of this scum we find here,
actually claim to be Jewish, with the obvious intent to defame Judaism
- for, it is obvious that none of these subscribe, in even the tiniest
way, to the Judeo/Christian Ethic.  I've been tempted, from time to
time, to notify the Israeli Mossad about this, and suggest some
action.  This pretense at Judaism is even more appaling, when they,
out of the sides of their mouths, rail at those involved in health
care issues like world hero Ilena Rosenthal, and her attorneys Mark
Goldowitz, and David Shagam.

The world is sometimes a bad place - and it is hard to change it back
to something good.

Working hard at it, though, in California...

Tim Bolen
drkulacz@optonline.net - 04 Mar 2008 16:33 GMT
On Mar 4, 9:18 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Dr K:
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> Tim Bolen

Some of these people use fake identities?
Why won't they use their own name?
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 04 Mar 2008 18:43 GMT
On Mar 4, 8:33 am, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Mar 4, 9:18 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Dr K:

Good question...

Yes, why won't they?  I suspect, in the long and the short of it, that
we're dealing with a "bully mentality."  Bullies are always, in every
case, cowards, who run when somebody like me bloodies their nose.
Hence, these people don't want somebody like me on their doorstep, or
even finding their doorstep.  In essence, we're dealing with sissies.

Tim Bolen
drkulacz@optonline.net - 04 Mar 2008 18:59 GMT
On Mar 4, 1:43 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mar 4, 8:33 am, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
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Makes sense.
One would think that a credible individual would make their identity
known.
I suppose that it is much easier to hide behind an alias when
resorting to
cowardly acts.
Speaks volumes about the type of people that they are.
drkulacz@optonline.net - 05 Mar 2008 01:46 GMT
On Mar 4, 1:59 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Mar 4, 1:43 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
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I am very curious about all of the secrescy and hidden identities on
this forum.
Please let us know who you are and why you are so secretive.
Do you all belong to a cult or secret society???????
drkulacz@optonline.net - 05 Mar 2008 04:08 GMT
On Mar 4, 8:46 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Mar 4, 1:59 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
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Who is D.C. Sessions?
Who is David Wright?
Who is Kaiser Souse?
D. C. Sessions - 05 Mar 2008 14:00 GMT
> Who is D.C. Sessions?

Hire a PI if you don't know how to use Google.

| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
|    The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?"    |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
Kevysmom - 07 Mar 2008 04:21 GMT
> > Who is D.C. Sessions?

Yeah, who are YOU, DC?? Are you a lumber jack? LOL

> In message <c53de9cd-b446-4e3b-b374-4c63d6178...@v3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
>
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> |    The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?"    |
> +---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
Mark Probert - 05 Mar 2008 14:07 GMT
On Mar 4, 11:08 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Mar 4, 8:46 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
>
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> Who is D.C. Sessions?

A person who posts in newsgroups. If you had read his messages over
the years, you would know a lot more. They are available in the
archives. Do look them up.

> Who is David Wright?

A person who posts in newsgroups. If you had read his messages over
the years, you would know a lot more. They are available in the
archives. Do look them up.

> Who is Kaiser Souse?

Good question.
David Wright - 05 Mar 2008 05:39 GMT
>On Mar 4, 1:59 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
>> On Mar 4, 1:43 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
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>Please let us know who you are and why you are so secretive.
>Do you all belong to a cult or secret society???????

Oh, gee, and I'm sure we should all publish our home addresses and
phone numbers, too.

You haven't exactly been forthcoming with your full identity, now,
have you bub?

But I'm betting you're the same Robert Kulacz, D.D.S. who agreed to a
consent order in NY State to settle a charge of professional
misconduct.  Right?

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
drkulacz@optonline.net - 05 Mar 2008 06:06 GMT
> In article <6d12b469-434a-4025-af8d-620f08a52...@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
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Bub???

Very professional David

Anyway, I am Robert Kulacz, DDS and I acknowledged that on a previous
thread as well
as the disciplinary action.
I have nothing to hide "bub"
That action is a very interesting story and not unlike other doctors
that are targeted for
speaking out about certain issues.
The treatment of the patient in question was 100% correct as was
finally admitted by the New York State
Education Department. I did nothing wrong in my diagnosis or treatment
but if you are familiar
with board agenda, truth does not always matter.
This was actually admited to me by the attorney for the New York State
Education Department.
The story is long and you would not believe it anyway, but suffice to
say the state boards have an agenda just as you do.

I was more than happy to explain how the attorney for NYS admitted
that I was targeted but Mr.Probert did not wish to know.

So what is your real name?
drkulacz@optonline.net - 05 Mar 2008 06:10 GMT
On Mar 5, 1:06 am, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:

> > In article <6d12b469-434a-4025-af8d-620f08a52...@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
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Mr. Probert initially brought this up and I immediatley confirmed.
Frankly, it would be a great topic to illustrate the corruption within
the state boards.
Jan Drew - 07 Mar 2008 04:42 GMT
On Mar 5, 1:06 am, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Mar 5, 12:39 am, wri...@l1000.prodigy.net (David Wright) wrote:
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Mr. Probert initially brought this up and I immediatley confirmed.
Frankly, it would be a great topic to illustrate the corruption within
the state boards.
~~~~~~~~~~~~

Unlike..Mark S Probert who denies his being disbarred, and also using
aol.com.

In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.

92-02731

SUPREME COURT OF NEW YORK, APPELLATE DIVISION, SECOND DEPARTMENT

183 A.D.2d 282; 590 N.Y.S.2d 747

November 9, 1992, Decided

PRIOR HISTORY:   [***1]

Disciplinary proceedings instituted by the Grievance Committee for the
Tenth Judicial District. Respondent was admitted to the Bar on
February 15, 1978, at a term of the Appellate Division of the Supreme
Court in the Second Judicial Department, under the name Mark S.
Probert.

DISPOSITION: Ordered that the petitioner's motion to impose discipline
upon the respondent based upon his failure to appear or answer is
granted; and it is further,

HEADNOTES: Attorney and Client - Disciplinary Proceedings

Respondent attorney, who is charged with 22 counts of failing to
cooperate with investigations of alleged misconduct by the Grievance
Committee, and who has failed to answer or appear, is disbarred.

COUNSEL:

Frank A. Finnerty, Jr., Westbury (Muriel L. Gennosa of counsel), for
petitioner.

JUDGES: Mangano, P. J., Thompson, Bracken, Sullivan and Harwood, JJ.,
concur.

Ordered that the petitioner's motion to impose discipline upon the
respondent based upon his failure to appear or answer is granted; and
it is further,

Ordered that pursuant to Judiciary Law § 90, effective immediately,
the respondent, Mark Probert, is disbarred and his name is stricken
from the roll of attorneys and counselors-at-law; and it is further,

Ordered that the respondent shall continue to comply with this Court's
rules governing the conduct of disbarred, suspended and resigned
attorneys (22 NYCRR 691.10); and it is further,

Ordered that pursuant to Judiciary [***2]  Law § 90, the respondent,
Mark Probert, is commanded to continue to desist and refrain (1) from
practicing law in any form, either as principal or as agent, clerk or
employee of another, (2) from appearing as an attorney or
counselor-at-law before any court, Judge, Justice, board, commission
or other public authority, (3) from giving to another an opinion as to
the law or its application or any advice in relation thereto, and (4)
from holding himself out in any way as an attorney and
counselor-at-law.

OPINIONBY: Per Curiam.

OPINION:  [*282]

[**747]  By decision and order of this Court dated September 29,
1989, the respondent was suspended from the practice of law until the
further order of this Court based upon his failure to cooperate with
the Grievance Committee. By further order of this Court dated June 4,
1992, the Grievance Committee was authorized to institute and
prosecute a disciplinary proceeding  [*283]  against the respondent
and the Honorable Moses M. Weinstein was appointed as Special Referee.

[**748]  A notice of petition and petition was personally served upon
the respondent on July 2, 1992. No answer was forthcoming. The
petitioner now moves to hold the [***3]  respondent in default. The
motion was personally served upon the respondent on August 14, 1992.
The respondent has failed to submit any papers in response to the
default motion.

The charges involve 22 counts of the respondent's failure to cooperate
with the Grievance Committee in its investigations into complaints of
professional misconduct.

The charges, if established, would require the imposition of a
disciplinary sanction against the respondent. Since the respondent has
chosen not to appear or answer in these proceedings, the charges must
be deemed established. The petitioner's motion to hold the respondent
in default and impose discipline is, therefore, granted. Accordingly,
the respondent is disbarred and his name is stricken from the roll of
attorneys and counselors-at-law, effective immediately

Source:

NY UNIFIED COURT SYSTEM, ATTORNEY REGIST. UNIT

Currency Status:

ARCHIVE RECORD

NAME & PROFESSIONAL INFORMATION

Name:

MARK PROBERT

Date Of Birth:

11/XX/1946

Gender:

MALE

Address:

1698 WEBSTER AVE

MERRICK, NY 11566

County:

NASSAU

Phone:

516-968-5572

EMPLOYER INFORMATION

Employer:

MARK S PROBERT ESQ

Organization:

PERSON

LICENSING INFORMATION

Licensing Agency:

NY STATE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION

License/Certification Type:

ATTORNEY

License Number:

1253889

Issue Date:

00/00/1978

License Status:

DISBARRED

License State:

NY

From:  Mark Probert - view profile
Date:  Sun, Feb 11 2001 4:17 pm
Email:   Mark Probert <markpr...@my-deja.com>
Groups:   k12.chat.teacher

Noah has had one since 11/26/96 (my birthday).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/19779a3cdb7c6546

May 13, 1996

Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit
From: msprob...@aol.com (MSProbert)
Date: 1996/05/13
Subject: Invest in your kids

Mark S. Probert
Merrick, New York
Frank - 07 Mar 2008 06:41 GMT
> SUPREME COURT OF NEW YORK, APPELLATE DIVISION, SECOND DEPARTMENT

So this is your christian like attitude?

Hypocrite and spammer. Snipped excess unrelated groups.

Do not be surprised to see your name in bright lights.
Jan Drew - 09 Mar 2008 07:41 GMT
>> SUPREME COURT OF NEW YORK, APPELLATE DIVISION, SECOND DEPARTMENT
>
> So this is your christian like attitude?

Bub, Mark S Probert's disbarrment has nothing to do with either Christian
nor attitude.

Make a note of it.

> Hypocrite and spammer. Snipped excess unrelated groups.

Restored, Frankie........................

> Do not be surprised to see your name in bright lights.

You meant you haven't already?  Comon down, Frankie!!  Bring popcorn.
Frank - 09 Mar 2008 08:09 GMT
>>> SUPREME COURT OF NEW YORK, APPELLATE DIVISION, SECOND DEPARTMENT
>>
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>
> Make a note of it.

But your reposting it shows a totally non-christ like attitude, one
designed to cast aspersions, and like any ungodly woman, gossip. Meant
for ill will. Do unto others as you would have then do unto you?

>> Hypocrite and spammer. Snipped excess unrelated groups.
>
> Restored, Frankie........................

Thank you for admitting you spammed and with a purpose.

>> Do not be surprised to see your name in bright lights.
>>
> You meant you haven't already?  Comon down, Frankie!!  Bring popcorn.

Others will bring the popcorn, and eat it as they watch you twist and
turn. You will turn to the usual denial mode knowing full well it is the
truth and you will either be lying flat out or deceitful, what do they
call it? One of the seven deadly sins?

No doubt your mind and soul are already calloused to a large extent due
to your historical practices, but in this case you are forewarned that
truth will out, and truth can be your friend. I suspect that your
friends are deceit and lies neither of which come from above spiritually
speaking.

No doubt your other friend Conceit has lead you into your hypocritical
stance. It is common. Another term for it is "Pride cometh before a
fall".
Mark Probert - 05 Mar 2008 14:12 GMT
On Mar 5, 1:06 am, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:

> > In article <6d12b469-434a-4025-af8d-620f08a52...@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>
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> but if you are familiar
> with board agenda, truth does not always matter.

Considering what the NYS Board of Professional Medical Conduct did to
a friend of mine, I would have to agree. Frankly, no matter what your
tale is, his is incredible, since nothing occurred in NY.

> This was actually admited to me by the attorney for the New York State
> Education Department.
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> I was more than happy to explain how the attorney for NYS admitted
> that I was targeted but Mr.Probert did not wish to know.

I felt that your being forthright was sufficient and I moved on. I
thought it was the proper thing to do.

> So what is your real name?

David Wright's real name is,

David Wright.

Do not believe everything Timmie Tells Ya!
David Wright - 06 Mar 2008 02:06 GMT
>> In article
><6d12b469-434a-4025-af8d-620f08a52...@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
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>Very professional David

This isn't a professional setting.  If you think I'm going to tug my
forelock and refer to you as "doctor," think again.

>Anyway, I am Robert Kulacz, DDS and I acknowledged that on a previous
>thread as well as the disciplinary action.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>nothing wrong in my diagnosis or treatment but if you are familiar
>with board agenda, truth does not always matter.

I'm not familiar with their agenda.  It's not a subject of major
interest to me.

>This was actually admited to me by the attorney for the New York State
>Education Department.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>So what is your real name?

I always use my real name on these newsgroups.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
drkulacz@optonline.net - 06 Mar 2008 02:39 GMT
> In article <cf930c5a-9def-46bc-8e49-52ac90ca4...@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
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I never asked anybody to refer to me as doctor. That was started by
somebody else.
What's the big deal "Dave"

Bob
David Wright - 06 Mar 2008 03:24 GMT
>> In article
><cf930c5a-9def-46bc-8e49-52ac90ca4...@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 139 lines]
>
>Bob

No big deal from me -- you're the one demanding to know everyone's
name, when you don't even have the sense to include yours in most of
your postings.

Not that I'm exactly in awe of your intelligence if you're willing to
accept a guy like Tim Bolen at face value.  A little more skepticism
in your make up would do you a world of good.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
drkulacz@optonline.net - 06 Mar 2008 03:37 GMT
> In article <628e50aa-bbdd-4904-a89a-61ffc4053...@34g2000hsz.googlegroups.com>,
>
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Not demanding to know at all. Just wondering why some insist on
staying anonymous.
I have made my identity known so it does not need to be plastered on
every post.
Others, seem to hide behind the veil of annonymity,
Why?
Is this a secret society?
People usually identify themselves unless they have something to hide.
Bee - 06 Mar 2008 04:03 GMT
On Mar 5, 7:37 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:

> People usually identify themselves unless they have something to hide.

Dr. K, just think of everyone as a sock puppet that is in the anti
alternative
camp--and you'll be fine.

This is for entertainment purposes only---how can you possibly take
anyone
seriously?????
David Wright - 08 Mar 2008 02:27 GMT
>> In article <628e50aa-bbdd-4904-a89a-61ffc4053...@34g2000hsz.googlegroups.com>,
>>  <drkul...@optonline.net> wrote:
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>Not demanding to know at all. Just wondering why some insist on
>staying anonymous.

Probably because they don't want to get annoying phone calls from
people who want to harass them.

>I have made my identity known so it does not need to be plastered on
>every post.

On the contrary, it's simple courtesy to include a few lines at the
end of each post to identify yourself.  You seem to be under the
mistaken impression that if you identify yourself once, everyone in
the world will know who you are forever after, including people who
only started reading this newsgroup today.

>Others, seem to hide behind the veil of annonymity,
>Why?
>Is this a secret society?
>People usually identify themselves unless they have something to hide.

I can't agree with that at all.  Sometimes people identify themselves
and still have plenty to hide.  Sometimes people like to be anonymous
just to avoid additional email traffic.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 09 Mar 2008 04:51 GMT
David (Chris) Wright:

About your claim "Probably because they don't want to get annoying
phone calls from people who want to harass them. "

Are you getting those kind of phone calls?  Do you know someone who
is?  Tell us about that please.

Curious in California...

Tim Bolen
David Wright - 10 Mar 2008 04:45 GMT
>David (Chris) Wright:
>
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>Are you getting those kind of phone calls?  Do you know someone who
>is?  Tell us about that please.

Happily, I am not getting such calls, and by keeping little verminous
types like you from knowing who I am, I figure I'll help keep it that
way.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
Bee - 10 Mar 2008 06:23 GMT
> Happily, I am not getting such calls, and by keeping little verminous
> types like you from knowing who I am, I figure I'll help keep it that
> way.

Someone must think I'm someone involved in something that I am not,
because one of my friends  discovered something today that does not
belong aimed at my yard - I will be figuring out some gawd awful white
noise for it to listen to, something like Tiny Tim-----or Jesus Loves
Me,
or Ray Steven's music. Whatever I come up with, it will be bad--
whomever is behind this
"will pay" and it will hurt their ears!   I kind of suspected it was
there - based on
a few things I have read---and with the problems I am having with my
computer,   You know when your email gives you a blow by blow of
telephone
conversations that take place in your own home---somethings not right
in Denmark!
Bee - 06 Mar 2008 04:01 GMT
> Not that I'm exactly in awe of your intelligence if you're willing to
> accept a guy like Tim Bolen at face value.  A little more skepticism
> in your make up would do you a world of good.

David, you absolutely right about skepticism---I am very skeptical
of those individuals that post in an alternative health newsgroup
that are skeptical of Tim Bolen.
David Wright - 06 Mar 2008 05:23 GMT
>> Not that I'm exactly in awe of your intelligence if you're willing to
>> accept a guy like Tim Bolen at face value.  A little more skepticism
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>of those individuals that post in an alternative health newsgroup
>that are skeptical of Tim Bolen.

And that speaks volumes about you.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
Mark Probert - 06 Mar 2008 12:30 GMT
> In article <ac5b4315-b64f-47f2-a4ad-ddedf4e5b...@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>
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>
> And that speaks volumes about you.

Volumes? Pfui. Library of Congress.
Bee - 06 Mar 2008 13:00 GMT
> >David, you absolutely right about skepticism---I am very skeptical
> >of those individuals that post in an alternative health newsgroup
> >that are skeptical of Tim Bolen.
>
> And that speaks volumes about you.

Your statement means absolutely ZERO to me.  Coming from a Loser
like yourself, I almost think it is a compliment!!

This newsgroup is for entertainment purposes only----you are
entertaining...NOT.
David Wright - 07 Mar 2008 02:58 GMT
>> >David, you absolutely right about skepticism---I am very skeptical
>> >of those individuals that post in an alternative health newsgroup
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>This newsgroup is for entertainment purposes only----you are
>entertaining...NOT.

Aw, I'm so hurt.  You are free to stop reading my postings at your
earliest convenience.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
Bee - 07 Mar 2008 03:23 GMT
> Aw, I'm so hurt.  You are free to stop reading my postings at your
> earliest convenience.
>
>  
No thanks---I'm going to continue---in case you haven't heard there is
a new
Sheriff in town---Mr. IT Guy---and I think your postings as well as
mine are
just as valuable as mine.....
Bee - 07 Mar 2008 04:01 GMT
> Aw, I'm so hurt.  You are free to stop reading my postings at your
> earliest convenience.

Are you trying to "stifle my reading habits, now?"

I keep meaning to ask you--sometimes your postings are 8 hours ahead
of me, and sometimes they
are only two hours---was just curious if England swings like a
pendulum do---if there were Bobbies on Bicycles
two by two---you must travel A LOT---but glad to see that you post
every night on the good old MHA!!
David Wright - 08 Mar 2008 00:35 GMT
>> Aw, I'm so hurt.  You are free to stop reading my postings at your
>> earliest convenience.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>two by two---you must travel A LOT---but glad to see that you post
>every night on the good old MHA!!

What's England got to do with any of this?  I have no idea why my
postings would show varying times, I use the same news server in all
cases.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
Bee - 08 Mar 2008 03:20 GMT
> What's England got to do with any of this?  I have no idea why my
> postings would show varying times, I use the same news server in all
> cases.

It is really strange-David--that was the only reason I brought it up--
several of your posting show
you being 8 hours a head of me--which throws you into England time...I
know sometimes you post
with Prodigy, and sometimes with Comcast.  I don't think Comcast or
Prodigy are that far off in the time zone.

-- I have a couple of friends that work at Google in the Valley,
and I sent some samples snail mail.  They had never heard of it
before---but it could
be because I am aware that my computer has been compromised---

Anyways, hopefully it will give them something to do at work or show
their boss.
David Wright - 08 Mar 2008 04:41 GMT
>> What's England got to do with any of this?  I have no idea why my
>> postings would show varying times, I use the same news server in all
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>Anyways, hopefully it will give them something to do at work or show
>their boss.

I don't post via prodigy any more.

All I can think of is that perhaps the postings are reaching google
via different routes at times.  Not sure why that'd happen, but it's
entirely possible.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
Bee - 08 Mar 2008 07:19 GMT
> I don't post via prodigy any more.
>
> All I can think of is that perhaps the postings are reaching google
> via different routes at times.  Not sure why that'd happen, but it's
> entirely possible.

Really--that's really strange - hopefully no one is in your account,
like they are into mine---law enforcement did tell me to pull the
plug,
from the computer every time I am not using it....something about
hijacking--using someone else's computer to access the internet.
D. C. Sessions - 08 Mar 2008 14:45 GMT
> Really--that's really strange - hopefully no one is in your account,
> like they are into mine---law enforcement did tell me to pull the
> plug,
> from the computer every time I am not using it....something about
> hijacking--using someone else's computer to access the internet.

If your box has been zombied, you being logged in won't stop it.

| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
|    The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?"    |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
Bee - 08 Mar 2008 15:45 GMT
> If your box has been zombied, you being logged in won't stop it.
>
> --
How does it happen?  Tell me about zombied?
D. C. Sessions - 08 Mar 2008 16:01 GMT
>> If your box has been zombied, you being logged in won't stop it.
>>
>> --
> How does it happen?  Tell me about zombied?

Where to start?  A "zombie" PC is one which has been taken
over by "malware" -- you would probably say "virus," but
there are other kinds.  The thing about a zombie is that
it takes orders from some other source.  They're usually
connected in what are called "botnets" (robot networks)
and have distributed ways of relaying commands from the
controller, who often uses them for distributing spam,
for attacking target systems, etc.

Your choices are pretty much to either become reasonably
savvy in terms of keeping a Microsoft system from getting
infected (or "owned") or else using something else.  A
clueless Macintosh user isn't _safe_, but is likely to be
safe_er_ -- Me, I use Linux.  Haven't touched an MS system
in about ten years and the only time I light up anything
from Microsoft is when I run a virtual machine at tax time;
that sucker is behind armor.

Bottom line: get clued or get 0wn3d.

| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
|    The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?"    |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
David Wright - 10 Mar 2008 04:36 GMT
>> I don't post via prodigy any more.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>from the computer every time I am not using it....something about
>hijacking--using someone else's computer to access the internet.

Luckily, I don't use Windows and thus am in relatively little danger
of being hijacked.  In any case, I doubt that someone else is posting
under my name using my style.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
Bee - 10 Mar 2008 06:17 GMT
> Luckily, I don't use Windows and thus am in relatively little danger
> of being hijacked.  In any case, I doubt that someone else is posting
> under my name using my style.

You don't do Windows anymore?  But do you do floors????  How about
coffee?
D. C. Sessions - 06 Mar 2008 13:14 GMT
> David, you absolutely right about skepticism---I am very skeptical
> of those individuals that post in an alternative health newsgroup
> that are skeptical of Tim Bolen.

So it is reasonable to infer that you either are skeptical
of yourself or place complete trust in Bolen.

| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
|    The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?"    |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
Bee - 06 Mar 2008 15:18 GMT
> So it is reasonable to infer that you either are skeptical
> of yourself or place complete trust in Bolen.
>
> --

Neither-dipshit!

Where is your sense of humor---this newsgroup is a joke--if anyone
takes
it for anything but at the entertainment value that it presents --
they need help!
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 06 Mar 2008 17:22 GMT
> > So it is reasonable to infer that you either are skeptical
> > of yourself or place complete trust in Bolen.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> it for anything but at the entertainment value that it presents --
> they need help!

Bee:

I agree and disagee.  First, this attack by these "fake identity"
people is not a joke on their part.  It's organized.  Each person
identified can be traced back to a common source.  Each of them have
some sort of reward built into their activities, whether its a
paycheck, or something else.  And, each of them are VERY MUCH AFRAID
I'll discover who they are - for good reason.

My guess is that, even now, each of them look out the window each
morning and night, looking to see if there is a strange van parked up
the street, and wondering too, who put it there.  They probably watch,
constantly, to see who it is that's talking to their employer.

This is not a game.

Tim Bolen
Peter Bowditch - 06 Mar 2008 23:35 GMT
>> > So it is reasonable to infer that you either are skeptical
>> > of yourself or place complete trust in Bolen.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>paycheck, or something else.  And, each of them are VERY MUCH AFRAID
>I'll discover who they are - for good reason.

Who am I, Tim? And why weren't you in your "office" when I dropped by
to introduce myself (and pick up the subpoenas, of course)?

>My guess is that, even now, each of them look out the window each
>morning and night, looking to see if there is a strange van parked up
>the street, and wondering too, who put it there.  They probably watch,
>constantly, to see who it is that's talking to their employer.

My employer sends this message: "f.ck off, Tim".

>This is not a game.
>
>Tim Bolen

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jurimed2@yahoo.com - 07 Mar 2008 03:33 GMT
> jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

poor peter:

Oh, I was there, peter, waiting for you so I could kick the living
sh.t out of you while making a citizen's arrest for "stalking" - but
you showed up, pansie that you are, just after dawn when there was no
one to tell me you were on site.

Same story with Mexico, and Hulda Clark's clinic - you showed up long
after the clinic was closed for the day, so you didn't get all that
Mexican cock up your a.s, you would have gotten in that comfy little
Mexican jail, the Federales, and the Rurales were going put you in
when they grabbed you.  You were just a phone call away...

Amused in California...

Tim Bolen
Peter Bowditch - 07 Mar 2008 09:07 GMT
>poor peter:
>
>Oh, I was there, peter, waiting for you so I could kick the living
>sh.t out of you while making a citizen's arrest for "stalking" - but
>you showed up, pansie that you are, just after dawn when there was no
>one to tell me you were on site.

I know you live in some other world to the rest of us, Tim. That must
be why a photograph of me outside your office shows the shadow on the
east side of me and you say that happens at dawn. Everywhere else the
sun in the west means afternoon.

But why should I expect you to not tell lies? After all, that is what
you do for a living.

>Same story with Mexico, and Hulda Clark's clinic - you showed up long
>after the clinic was closed for the day, so you didn't get all that
>Mexican cock up your a.s,

Does Hulda sell "Mexican cock up the a.s" at her pink palace?

Interestingly, the photos at
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/clark08.htm have shadows showing
that the sun was in the south east. In the world of real people, that
would make it morning.

But why should I expect you to not tell lies? After all, that is what
you do for a living.

> you would have gotten in that comfy little
>Mexican jail, the Federales, and the Rurales were going put you in
>when they grabbed you.  You were just a phone call away...

But you forgot to call them. How sad.

But why should I expect you to not tell lies? After all, that is what
you do for a living.

>Amused in California...

I doubt that you could be as amused as I was when I saw your "office".

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David Wright - 08 Mar 2008 02:38 GMT
>> jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
>you showed up, pansie that you are, just after dawn when there was no
>one to tell me you were on site.

How comical.  I've seen video of you, Timmy, and I've seen still
photos of Peter, and from what I can tell, he's no older than you are
(possibly younger) and larger.  I very much doubt that he'd be in any
physical danger from you unless you had a gun.

He's already debunked the rest of your story, about the times of day
etc.  And last I knew, making a citizen's arrest for the not-really-
committed crime of stalking did not give you license to beat the
arrestee up.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
Bee - 08 Mar 2008 03:24 GMT
> He's already debunked the rest of your story, about the times of day
> etc.  And last I knew, making a citizen's arrest for the not-really-
> committed crime of stalking did not give you license to beat the
> arrestee up.

You know David, I've seen both photos -- I think they are are around
the
same age.

I'm not sure about "the stories."  I won't bet on either one of them
because
they are way too different.  Nor, does it matter.  You know what they
say about
two people that come on an accident scene at the same time from two
angles - you
get two different answers...
Peter Bowditch - 08 Mar 2008 05:48 GMT
>> He's already debunked the rest of your story, about the times of day
>> etc.  And last I knew, making a citizen's arrest for the not-really-
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>angles - you
>get two different answers...

But I offered the evidence of photographs showing the position of the
sun. In the south east when Bolen says it is late in the day, in the
west when Bolen says it is dawn. I know water goes down the plughole a
different way in the Northern Hemisphere, but I didn't know the sun
went the other way as well.

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Bee - 08 Mar 2008 07:27 GMT
> But I offered the evidence of photographs showing the position of the
> sun. In the south east when Bolen says it is late in the day, in the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> --
Where are the photos?  And if there are computerized, and not a hard
copy,
there are wonderful programs that can do amazing things----I downsized
my chest---and send out cards to my friends---and told them that I had
had
bust reduction surgery.  Everyone bought it----at first---as I was out
on vacation
when I did it.  My S.O. was at home, and I had him going ----he was
worried I really was
a 32AAA!!!
Bee - 08 Mar 2008 07:28 GMT
> But I offered the evidence of photographs showing the position of the
> sun. In the south east when Bolen says it is late in the day, in the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> --
Why did you fly all the way from Australia to go to Bolen's neck of
the woods?
Were you invited to a party?
Peter Bowditch - 08 Mar 2008 11:33 GMT
>> But I offered the evidence of photographs showing the position of the
>> sun. In the south east when Bolen says it is late in the day, in the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>the woods?
>Were you invited to a party?

Perhaps you might remember asking me recently about a conference I
attended.

In other words - asked and answered.

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Bee - 08 Mar 2008 15:44 GMT
> Perhaps you might remember asking me recently about a conference I
> attended.
>
> In other words - asked and answered.

I thought there had been a MHA party---and not everyone got to go!!
Or was even invited!

Hey, I have a question for you---what is your definition of quackery?
I mean,
there seems to be the "definite" answer but what is your own
definition of it?

I believe quackery exists, but I do not believe that it exists for
example in the
definition used by Quackwatch.
Mark Probert - 10 Mar 2008 03:16 GMT
> > But I offered the evidence of photographs showing the position of the
> > sun. In the south east when Bolen says it is late in the day, in the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> the woods?
> Were you invited to a party?

Peter was an invited speaker at an event.
Bee - 10 Mar 2008 06:15 GMT
> Peter was an invited speaker at an event.

At Timmie's house?  Or at the post office box?
Mark Probert - 10 Mar 2008 12:19 GMT
> > Peter was an invited speaker at an event.
>
> At Timmie's house?  Or at the post office box?

Nope.
Mark Probert - 10 Mar 2008 03:14 GMT
> In article <9f51b3bc-b399-46d1-b447-711ef2604...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> (possibly younger) and larger.  I very much doubt that he'd be in any
> physical danger from you unless you had a gun.

Timmie would be in the most danger if Timmie had a gun.

> He's already debunked the rest of your story, about the times of day
> etc.  And last I knew, making a citizen's arrest for the not-really-
> committed crime of stalking did not give you license to beat the
> arrestee up.
Jan Drew - 07 Mar 2008 05:10 GMT
<snip vulgarity>
David Wright - 08 Mar 2008 02:33 GMT
>> > So it is reasonable to infer that you either are skeptical
>> > of yourself or place complete trust in Bolen.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>paycheck, or something else.  And, each of them are VERY MUCH AFRAID
>I'll discover who they are - for good reason.

Why would anyone be afraid of you discovering who they are?  I'm not
afraid of it, nor do I care if you decide to park outside my place.
If you showed up on my doorstep and refused to go away, I'd call the
police, of course.  But I think most people would do that.

>My guess is that, even now, each of them look out the window each
>morning and night, looking to see if there is a strange van parked up
>the street, and wondering too, who put it there.  They probably watch,
>constantly, to see who it is that's talking to their employer.
>
>This is not a game.

Sure it is.  It's a very strange game where you lurch around making
vaguely ominous-sounding statements, as if you're about to descend
like an avenging angel on some nefarious group.

But, of course, you aren't.  You really don't have any grounds for
doing anything at all.  Business for you must be really slow right now
if you have all this free time to be making your not-quite-threats.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
Jan Drew - 07 Mar 2008 05:07 GMT
> In message
> <ac5b4315-b64f-47f2-a4ad-ddedf4e5be4a@e60g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, Bee
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> So it is reasonable to infer that you either are skeptical
> of yourself or place complete trust in Bolen.

LOL!  The *gang's* usual *reasonable to infer*.

Douglas does not question Mark S Probert.

"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 10, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
07-10...@lymbercartel.com>

  |
>  D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com>
Jan Drew - 07 Mar 2008 05:00 GMT
> In article
> <628e50aa-bbdd-4904-a89a-61ffc4053669@34g2000hsz.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 160 lines]
> name, when you don't even have the sense to include yours in most of
> your postings.

ZZzz.  Where did David read any *demanding*??

> Not that I'm exactly in awe of your intelligence if you're willing to
> accept a guy like Tim Bolen at face value.  A little more skepticism
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> on?"
>                                                        -- Bill Maher
Mark Probert - 06 Mar 2008 03:47 GMT
> In article <cf930c5a-9def-46bc-8e49-52ac90ca4...@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 125 lines]
>
> I always use my real name on these newsgroups.

Dr. K has been cautioned about believing Bolen. I hope he takes a word
to the wise.
Bee - 06 Mar 2008 04:08 GMT
> Dr. K has been cautioned about believing Bolen. I hope he takes a word
> to the wise.

Is that a threat?   It sure sounds like it.  Please explain what you
mean.
David Wright - 06 Mar 2008 05:24 GMT
>> Dr. K has been cautioned about believing Bolen. I hope he takes a word
>> to the wise.
>
>Is that a threat?   It sure sounds like it.  Please explain what you
>mean.

It is quite obviously not a threat.  Get a grip.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
Mark Probert - 06 Mar 2008 12:32 GMT
> In article <451b9771-cca3-470e-b495-4e6de841c...@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> It is quite obviously not a threat.  Get a grip.

Of course it is not a threat. It is a word to the wise. I bet Bolen's
former client, Stuie Suster just loved being extradited from
Connecticut. Even if the case was later tossed, the humility he had to
undergo for his actions which mirror Bolen's empty threats about legal
process.
Jan Drew - 07 Mar 2008 05:23 GMT
On Mar 6, 12:24 am, wri...@l1000.prodigy.net (David Wright) wrote:
> In article
> <451b9771-cca3-470e-b495-4e6de841c...@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> It is quite obviously not a threat. Get a grip.

Of course it is not a threat. It is a word to the wise. I bet Bolen's
former client, Stuie Suster just loved being extradited from
Connecticut. Even if the case was later tossed, the humility he had to
undergo for his actions which mirror Bolen's empty threats about legal
process.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Speaking of legal.

In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.

92-02731

SUPREME COURT OF NEW YORK, APPELLATE DIVISION, SECOND DEPARTMENT

183 A.D.2d 282; 590 N.Y.S.2d 747

November 9, 1992, Decided

PRIOR HISTORY:   [***1]

Disciplinary proceedings instituted by the Grievance Committee for the
Tenth Judicial District. Respondent was admitted to the Bar on
February 15, 1978, at a term of the Appellate Division of the Supreme
Court in the Second Judicial Department, under the name Mark S.
Probert.

DISPOSITION: Ordered that the petitioner's motion to impose discipline
upon the respondent based upon his failure to appear or answer is
granted; and it is further,

HEADNOTES: Attorney and Client - Disciplinary Proceedings

Respondent attorney, who is charged with 22 counts of failing to
cooperate with investigations of alleged misconduct by the Grievance
Committee, and who has failed to answer or appear, is disbarred.

COUNSEL:

Frank A. Finnerty, Jr., Westbury (Muriel L. Gennosa of counsel), for
petitioner.

JUDGES: Mangano, P. J., Thompson, Bracken, Sullivan and Harwood, JJ.,
concur.

Ordered that the petitioner's motion to impose discipline upon the
respondent based upon his failure to appear or answer is granted; and
it is further,

Ordered that pursuant to Judiciary Law § 90, effective immediately,
the respondent, Mark Probert, is disbarred and his name is stricken
from the roll of attorneys and counselors-at-law; and it is further,

Ordered that the respondent shall continue to comply with this Court's
rules governing the conduct of disbarred, suspended and resigned
attorneys (22 NYCRR 691.10); and it is further,

Ordered that pursuant to Judiciary [***2]  Law § 90, the respondent,
Mark Probert, is commanded to continue to desist and refrain (1) from
practicing law in any form, either as principal or as agent, clerk or
employee of another, (2) from appearing as an attorney or
counselor-at-law before any court, Judge, Justice, board, commission
or other public authority, (3) from giving to another an opinion as to
the law or its application or any advice in relation thereto, and (4)
from holding himself out in any way as an attorney and
counselor-at-law.

OPINIONBY: Per Curiam.

OPINION:  [*282]

[**747]  By decision and order of this Court dated September 29,
1989, the respondent was suspended from the practice of law until the
further order of this Court based upon his failure to cooperate with
the Grievance Committee. By further order of this Court dated June 4,
1992, the Grievance Committee was authorized to institute and
prosecute a disciplinary proceeding  [*283]  against the respondent
and the Honorable Moses M. Weinstein was appointed as Special Referee.

[**748]  A notice of petition and petition was personally served upon
the respondent on July 2, 1992. No answer was forthcoming. The
petitioner now moves to hold the [***3]  respondent in default. The
motion was personally served upon the respondent on August 14, 1992.
The respondent has failed to submit any papers in response to the
default motion.

The charges involve 22 counts of the respondent's failure to cooperate
with the Grievance Committee in its investigations into complaints of
professional misconduct.

The charges, if established, would require the imposition of a
disciplinary sanction against the respondent. Since the respondent has
chosen not to appear or answer in these proceedings, the charges must
be deemed established. The petitioner's motion to hold the respondent
in default and impose discipline is, therefore, granted. Accordingly,
the respondent is disbarred and his name is stricken from the roll of
attorneys and counselors-at-law, effective immediately

Source:

NY UNIFIED COURT SYSTEM, ATTORNEY REGIST. UNIT

Currency Status:

ARCHIVE RECORD

NAME & PROFESSIONAL INFORMATION

Name:

MARK PROBERT

Date Of Birth:

11/XX/1946

Gender:

MALE

Address:

1698 WEBSTER AVE

MERRICK, NY 11566

County:

NASSAU

Phone:

516-968-5572

EMPLOYER INFORMATION

Employer:

MARK S PROBERT ESQ

Organization:

PERSON

LICENSING INFORMATION

Licensing Agency:

NY STATE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION

License/Certification Type:

ATTORNEY

License Number:

1253889

Issue Date:

00/00/1978

License Status:

DISBARRED

License State:

NY

From:  Mark Probert - view profile
Date:  Sun, Feb 11 2001 4:17 pm
Email:   Mark Probert <markpr...@my-deja.com>
Groups:   k12.chat.teacher

Noah has had one since 11/26/96 (my birthday).
Bee - 06 Mar 2008 13:03 GMT
> >>Probert:   Dr. K has been cautioned about believing Bolen. I hope he takes a word
> >> to the wise.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>  
I know this is USENET--but considering you did not make that post in
the first place--
I'm wondering why you are answering it.....

It's never a dull moment, around "AS MY STOMACH TURNS."
Jan Drew - 07 Mar 2008 05:21 GMT
> In article
> <451b9771-cca3-470e-b495-4e6de841c2af@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>Is that a threat?   It sure sounds like it.  Please explain what you
>>mean.

Note how the *gang members* answer for each other.

I guess Douglas Sessions can reasonably infer...........................

> It is quite obviously not a threat.  Get a grip.
>
>  -- David Wright@comcast.com
Bee - 07 Mar 2008 05:34 GMT
> Note how the *gang members* answer for each other.

Jan,,,don't you know what happens when you do the "sock hop" trot too
often???---"any PORT" in any storm!!!  You know it must get harder
every day to remember what name you said you would "puppet" for the
day!!  And they always get
their ISP screwed up----you gotta laugh....the Puppeteer must be on
drugs to keep up with it all!!!
Jan Drew - 07 Mar 2008 05:17 GMT
On Mar 5, 9:06 pm, wri...@l1000.prodigy.net (David Wright) wrote:
> In article
> <cf930c5a-9def-46bc-8e49-52ac90ca4...@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
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>
> I always use my real name on these newsgroups.

Dr. K has been cautioned about believing Bolen. I hope he takes a word
to the wise.
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One cannot believe Mark S Probert.  A word to the wise.
Jan Drew - 07 Mar 2008 04:55 GMT
> In article
> <cf930c5a-9def-46bc-8e49-52ac90ca431b@u69g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
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>
>  -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net

OrgName:    Comcast Cable Communications, Inc.
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Address:    1800 Bishops Gate Blvd
City:       Mt Laurel
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PostalCode: 08054
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Mark Probert - 05 Mar 2008 14:09 GMT
> In article <6d12b469-434a-4025-af8d-620f08a52...@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>
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> consent order in NY State to settle a charge of professional
> misconduct.  Right?

Dr. K acknowledged that without hesitation. He is far more forthright
than Bolen. While that sounds like a left handed compliment, it is
true.
Jan Drew - 07 Mar 2008 05:25 GMT
On Mar 5, 12:39 am, wri...@l1000.prodigy.net (David Wright) wrote:
> In article
> <6d12b469-434a-4025-af8d-620f08a52...@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
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> consent order in NY State to settle a charge of professional
> misconduct. Right?

Dr. K acknowledged that without hesitation. He is far more forthright
than Bolen. While that sounds like a left handed compliment, it is
true.
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Speaking of forthright.

In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.

92-02731

SUPREME COURT OF NEW YORK, APPELLATE DIVISION, SECOND DEPARTMENT

183 A.D.2d 282; 590 N.Y.S.2d 747

November 9, 1992, Decided

PRIOR HISTORY:   [***1]

Disciplinary proceedings instituted by the Grievance Committee for the
Tenth Judicial District. Respondent was admitted to the Bar on
February 15, 1978, at a term of the Appellate Division of the Supreme
Court in the Second Judicial Department, under the name Mark S.
Probert.

DISPOSITION: Ordered that the petitioner's motion to impose discipline
upon the respondent based upon his failure to appear or answer is
granted; and it is further,

HEADNOTES: Attorney and Client - Disciplinary Proceedings

Respondent attorney, who is charged with 22 counts of failing to
cooperate with investigations of alleged misconduct by the Grievance
Committee, and who has failed to answer or appear, is disbarred.

COUNSEL:

Frank A. Finnerty, Jr., Westbury (Muriel L. Gennosa of counsel), for
petitioner.

JUDGES: Mangano, P. J., Thompson, Bracken, Sullivan and Harwood, JJ.,
concur.

Ordered that the petitioner's motion to impose discipline upon the
respondent based upon his failure to appear or answer is granted; and
it is further,

Ordered that pursuant to Judiciary Law § 90, effective immediately,
the respondent, Mark Probert, is disbarred and his name is stricken
from the roll of attorneys and counselors-at-law; and it is further,

Ordered that the respondent shall continue to comply with this Court's
rules governing the conduct of disbarred, suspended and resigned
attorneys (22 NYCRR 691.10); and it is further,

Ordered that pursuant to Judiciary [***2]  Law § 90, the respondent,
Mark Probert, is commanded to continue to desist and refrain (1) from
practicing law in any form, either as principal or as agent, clerk or
employee of another, (2) from appearing as an attorney or
counselor-at-law before any court, Judge, Justice, board, commission
or other public authority, (3) from giving to another an opinion as to
the law or its application or any advice in relation thereto, and (4)
from holding himself out in any way as an attorney and
counselor-at-law.

OPINIONBY: Per Curiam.

OPINION:  [*282]

[**747]  By decision and order of this Court dated September 29,
1989, the respondent was suspended from the practice of law until the
further order of this Court based upon his failure to cooperate with
the Grievance Committee. By further order of this Court dated June 4,
1992, the Grievance Committee was authorized to institute and
prosecute a disciplinary proceeding  [*283]  against the respondent
and the Honorable Moses M. Weinstein was appointed as Special Referee.

[**748]  A notice of petition and petition was personally served upon
the respondent on July 2, 1992. No answer was forthcoming. The
petitioner now moves to hold the [***3]  respondent in default. The
motion was personally served upon the respondent on August 14, 1992.
The respondent has failed to submit any papers in response to the
default motion.

The charges involve 22 counts of the respondent's failure to cooperate
with the Grievance Committee in its investigations into complaints of
professional misconduct.

The charges, if established, would require the imposition of a
disciplinary sanction against the respondent. Since the respondent has
chosen not to appear or answer in these proceedings, the charges must
be deemed established. The petitioner's motion to hold the respondent
in default and impose discipline is, therefore, granted. Accordingly,
the respondent is disbarred and his name is stricken from the roll of
attorneys and counselors-at-law, effective immediately

Source:

NY UNIFIED COURT SYSTEM, ATTORNEY REGIST. UNIT

Currency Status:

ARCHIVE RECORD

NAME & PROFESSIONAL INFORMATION

Name:

MARK PROBERT

Date Of Birth:

11/XX/1946

Gender:

MALE

Address:

1698 WEBSTER AVE

MERRICK, NY 11566

County:

NASSAU

Phone:

516-968-5572

EMPLOYER INFORMATION

Employer:

MARK S PROBERT ESQ

Organization:

PERSON

LICENSING INFORMATION

Licensing Agency:

NY STATE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION

License/Certification Type:

ATTORNEY

License Number:

1253889

Issue Date:

00/00/1978

License Status:

DISBARRED

License State:

NY

From:  Mark Probert - view profile
Date:  Sun, Feb 11 2001 4:17 pm
Email:   Mark Probert <markpr...@my-deja.com>
Groups:   k12.chat.teacher

Noah has had one since 11/26/96 (my birthday).
Citizen Jimserac - 06 Mar 2008 18:17 GMT
On Mar 4, 8:46 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Mar 4, 1:59 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
>
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> Please let us know who you are and why you are so secretive.
> Do you all belong to a cult or secret society???????

I don't know about the others,
but I'm James Pannozzi, former software
developer.  I've been using Jimserac
and Citizen Jimserac for quite some years.

Citizen Jimserac
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 06 Mar 2008 20:29 GMT
> On Mar 4, 8:46 pm, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

CJ:

Nice to meet you.  I don't classify you, or your intelligent comments,
in the "Nitwit Brigade."

Still, and always, in California... (except when I'm traveling)

Tim Bolen
Mark Probert - 05 Mar 2008 14:05 GMT
On Mar 4, 1:43 pm, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mar 4, 8:33 am, drkul...@optonline.net wrote:
>
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> Yes, why won't they?  I suspect, in the long and the short of it, that
> we're dealing with a "bully mentality."  

Yes, Timmie, that is what you have. You constantly threaten legal
suit. You post personal information about people.

Yes, Timmie, you are a bully (but, like everything else you do, not an
effective one.)

Bullies are always, in every
> case, cowards,

And live in the forest.

> who run when somebody like me bloodies their nose.

Chest thumping!

> Hence, these people don't want somebody like me on their doorstep, or
> even finding their doorstep.  In essence, we're dealing with sissies.

Why would you want to find their doorsteps when newsgroups are about
discussion? You want to stifle their free speech?

> Tim Bolen
Bee - 06 Mar 2008 05:37 GMT
On Mar 4, 10:43 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Yes, why won't they?  I suspect, in the long and the short of it, that
> we're dealing with a "bully mentality."  Bullies are always, in every
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>
> Tim Bolen

Hey Timmie.  I have a question for you---is it true that your Daddy or
your Uncle got you a job
because you were such a loser and couldn't get one on your own?
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 06 Mar 2008 17:01 GMT
> On Mar 4, 10:43 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
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> your Uncle got you a job
> because you were such a loser and couldn't get one on your own?

Bee:

Yup, that's almost true.  My Daddy made me mow the lawn in the summer,
shovel the front walk in the winter, and paid me an allowance for it.
Then my "Uncle) (Sam) made me learn about weapons, combat, blowing
sh.t up, stuff like that.  Is that what you mean?

Is there a reference I should be aware of?  Is one of those sissies
sticking their head up again?

Amused in California...

Tim Bolen
Martin - 06 Mar 2008 20:27 GMT
>> On Mar 4, 10:43 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
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>Yup, that's almost true.  My Daddy made me mow the lawn in the summer,
>shovel the front walk in the winter, and paid me an allowance for it.

Well, you sure learned to shovel something from that experience.

>Then my "Uncle) (Sam) made me learn about weapons, combat, blowing
>sh.t up, stuff like that.  Is that what you mean?

Is that the same uncle that taught you how to survive in the woods
with your family? And Timmie, is that one of your infamous veiled
threats again?

>Is there a reference I should be aware of?  Is one of those sissies
>sticking their head up again?

Hear who is calling people sissies. You didn't even have the guts to
tell a court where you live, or what your education is. Either that,
or you really have some sort of brain damage.

>Amused in California...
>
>Tim Bolen
Bee - 06 Mar 2008 21:49 GMT
> Hear who is calling people sissies. You didn't even have the guts to
> tell a court where you live, or what your educatio