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Jan Drew - 03 Mar 2008 02:51 GMT
Do NOT email me privately.  Anything that is said can be posted right here,
not behind the scenes,
You are blocked.
stanw - 03 Mar 2008 16:39 GMT
> Do NOT email me privately.  Anything that is said can be posted right here,
> not behind the scenes,
> You are blocked.

   I wouldn't know.  Do not what?  Email you privately?  When did you
step in, anyway?  Making rogue "demands" to have me cease conduct I
haven't committed is your idea of making yourself relevant?

   I have nothing to say to you behind the scenes, and only the
occasional dope slap when you try this nonsense in the public fora.
And isn't it "plonk"?  Tsk tsk.

                                                       -stan
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 03 Mar 2008 17:40 GMT
This is so typical from these cult-members.  I have tried to reason
with the worst of them for years: Stan, Proby, Ann, but they are hell-
bent in trying to ruin this group.  But this will not happen, thanks
to Patriots such as myself, Jan and Ilena.  We will stand tall and
dispense PROPER and accurate mental-health information.  It MUST be
done, it SHALL be done. No amount of nonsense from the Pro-Med Cult
(PMC) will stop those Americans (and others) who want and need proper
and verifiable information, the kind we give.

Now Stan,  this newsgroup got along swimmingly before you came back,
and it will get along great when you leave again.  Please follow to
the letter everything that Jan Drew says and you WILL be a much better
person.  I have seen thousands of people improve their lives because
of Jan Drew, you will too.  Trust me on this, I have never been wrong.

Sir ArtiO

> > Do NOT email me privately.  Anything that is said can be posted right here,
> > not behind the scenes,
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>
>                                                         -stan
Frank - 04 Mar 2008 01:06 GMT
This is so typical from these cult-members.  I have tried to reason
with the worst of them for years: Stan, Proby, Ann, but they are hell-
bent in trying to ruin this group.  But this will not happen, thanks
to Patriots such as myself, Jan and Ilena.  We will stand tall and
dispense PROPER and accurate mental-health information.  It MUST be
done, it SHALL be done. No amount of nonsense from the Pro-Med Cult
(PMC) will stop those Americans (and others) who want and need proper
and verifiable information, the kind we give.

Now Stan,  this newsgroup got along swimmingly before you came back,
and it will get along great when you leave again.  Please follow to
the letter everything that Jan Drew says and you WILL be a much better
person.  I have seen thousands of people improve their lives because
of Jan Drew, you will too.  Trust me on this, I have never been wrong.

Sir ArtiO
===============================================
If you are serious about the dribble u scribble then seek a therapist,
and FAST.

You may end up a bit more rational.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 04 Mar 2008 05:37 GMT
Frank, we do not need a spychiatrist to know that you are not a well
person and should not post here.  This is my best personal opinion, by
the way.  We are in the process of ridding these newsgroups of the
Cult of Useful Idiots: Proby, Stan, Marica, Ann and others.

The subject of mental health and real alternatives should be not left
up to those with an obvious conflict-of-interest.  Our advice is
always relaible and based on the most recent scientific research from
national and University laboratories.

Please refrain from barfing all over these groups, we have enough of
that from the Stan/Ann/Proby Axis.

> This is so typical from these cult-members.  I have tried to reason
> with the worst of them for years: Stan, Proby, Ann, but they are hell-
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>
> You may end up a bit more rational.
Frank - 04 Mar 2008 05:55 GMT
Frank, we do not need a spychiatrist to know that you are not a well
person and should not post here.  This is my best personal opinion, by
the way.  We are in the process of ridding these newsgroups of the
Cult of Useful Idiots: Proby, Stan, Marica, Ann and others.

The subject of mental health and real alternatives should be not left
up to those with an obvious conflict-of-interest.  Our advice is
always relaible and based on the most recent scientific research from
national and University laboratories.

Please refrain from barfing all over these groups, we have enough of
that from the Stan/Ann/Proby Axis.
=============================================
Oh really queer boy? So posting anon is part of your ploy, poor attempts
at intimidation, lame, and I mean really lame responses and flames? LOL,
you need to get a life. Learn to walk on your own two feet and not those
of another. Get a spine you spineless wimp, a worm has more backbone
that you. You project a lot, which means you need serious help. But,
don't count on my to help you. Do avail yourself of some psychiatric
help, you are in dire need of it.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 04 Mar 2008 16:32 GMT
Frank,  Obviously you are a vicitm of the medical-industrial-complex,
as well as coming to terms with your own sexual orientation.  That is
okay.  First off let me say that these newsgroups are doing you more
harm than good, so leave for your own good.  If not, the Cult will
just use you.  I have seen the Proby/Parsons/Palmer Axis, known as the
3-P Boyz, manipulate posters for their own aims.  Do not let this
happen to you, although it may be to late, you appear to have been
sucked in.   My expert opinion tells me that you, like Proby, needs an
extended stay at a mental-health clinic.  Please consider doing
this.    Now keep your abusive language away from here, these are
support and information groups.  Your kind of clap-trap have no place
amongst civilized people.

Sir ArtiO

> Frank, we do not need a spychiatrist to know that you are not a well
> person and should not post here.  This is my best personal opinion, by
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> don't count on my to help you. Do avail yourself of some psychiatric
> help, you are in dire need of it.
Frank - 05 Mar 2008 00:25 GMT
Frank,  Obviously you are a vicitm of the medical-industrial-complex,
as well as coming to terms with your own sexual orientation.  That is
okay.  First off let me say that these newsgroups are doing you more
harm than good, so leave for your own good.  If not, the Cult will
just use you.  I have seen the Proby/Parsons/Palmer Axis, known as the
3-P Boyz, manipulate posters for their own aims.  Do not let this
happen to you, although it may be to late, you appear to have been
sucked in.   My expert opinion tells me that you, like Proby, needs an
extended stay at a mental-health clinic.  Please consider doing
this.    Now keep your abusive language away from here, these are
support and information groups.  Your kind of clap-trap have no place
amongst civilized people.

Sir ArtiOqueer
===========================================
Well florida queer, the sexual orientation problem is yours not mine,
that is easy to see by your posts. Same with the foul language. You're
projecting yourself yet hating every bit that you see about yourself.

I am of the CABAL (tinc) your other projections are just as incorrect.

The rest of your stuff is just yawner material, not worth of replying
to, especially when the source is a queer boy from Florida.

On Mar 4, 12:55 am, "Frank" <dawgf...@ten.hut> wrote:
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
> messagenews:2810beb5-7738-476b-905e-f28da1879f02@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> don't count on my to help you. Do avail yourself of some psychiatric
> help, you are in dire need of it.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 05 Mar 2008 01:13 GMT
Frank, I feel your pain.  I didn't mean to "out" you - but you can
deal with it.  But the subject matter here is ADD, or shall I say, the
MYTH of ADD/ADHD.   This always need to be brought to the attention of
newbies as well as those who have been indoctrinated into the
"System."

As for as your "special problem" goes, learn to live with it, it is
not a disease at all, it is now readily accepted in the society as
normal.  So don't sweat that.  And don't turn into a self-hating gay
person, that would do you much damage.  You are already an emotional
wreck, anybody can see that.

Take care and consider checking yourself into a long-term stay at a
qualified mental-health clinic.  Proby spent a year there and he was
better, at least for a little while.

Good luck!

Sir artio

> Frank,  Obviously you are a vicitm of the medical-industrial-complex,
> as well as coming to terms with your own sexual orientation.  That is
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>
> - Show quoted text -
stanw - 05 Mar 2008 02:09 GMT
stanw - 04 Mar 2008 07:09 GMT
> Do NOT email me privately.  Anything that is said can be posted right here,
> not behind the scenes,
> You are blocked.

       Oh yeah, one more thing.  Now the title makes you the center
of attention - as you wish.

                                                   -stan
Bee - 04 Mar 2008 14:57 GMT
> > Do NOT email me privately.  Anything that is said can be posted right here,
> > not behind the scenes,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>                                                     -stan

Ping, Ping, Ping
Sing, Sing, Sing
Ring, Ring, Ring
Pop Goes the Weasel.

I can understand her point.   I've had people in here wanting to email
me, and that's why everyone pretty much knows from my posts I don't
want it.  It just gets deleted.
stanw - 04 Mar 2008 21:18 GMT
> > > Do NOT email me privately.  Anything that is said can be posted right here,
> > > not behind the scenes,
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> me, and that's why everyone pretty much knows from my posts I don't
> want it.  It just gets deleted.

   Drew has no point.  I have not contacted her outside of this
forum.  She's just trying to cause trouble.  Her "ping"ing me or
whatever, and telling me in a thinly veiled attempt at staying at the
forefront of everyone's attention, to not email her, borders on
libelous.  Period.

    Maybe Jan should heed her own crocodile warning - and not contact
or reference *me*.  Yeah - maybe she'd just better do that.


-stan
Bee - 04 Mar 2008 21:55 GMT
>     Drew has no point.  I have not contacted her outside of this
> forum.  She's just trying to cause trouble.  Her "ping"ing me or
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> -stan

Ok, if you didn't email her, then you shouldn't mind if she posts the
email that it sounds like
she got from someone posing as you, right?   I've had "forged" emails
coming to me from people
that regularly post here, but I know were not them, based on doing
some detective work.
stanw - 04 Mar 2008 22:10 GMT
> >     Drew has no point.  I have not contacted her outside of this
> > forum.  She's just trying to cause trouble.  Her "ping"ing me or
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> that regularly post here, but I know were not them, based on doing
> some detective work.

    No, Bee - not "if" I didn't email her.  I did not email her.
There is no "if/then" statement to be had here.  Whether I mind if she
attempts to forge an email from me or not is irrelevant.  My minding
won't effect that behavior a bit.  If and until she does produce such
a thing.   If that happens - then I will try like hell to respond
outside of the internet as well.  If anyone tries to misrepresent me,
they WILL get a phone call or letter or visit by some authority figure
and they will have to answer for their behavior.  You sound biased
toward believing her.  Not know me - or obviously Drew, I don't
exactly appreciate that ill-founded slant.

    I have a long history of being forthright and open in this
newsgroup.  Yes, my regularity has waned over the past several years,
but my conduct has not.  And I am not afraid to articulate myself
publically.  If I may say so, I'm rather good at it.

    I'm sorry if you've been stung by distasteful emails from anyone
- but most especially if they were forgeries.  But, I'm telling you,
Drew can't produce what she didn't get.  Got it?

                              -stan
stanw - 04 Mar 2008 22:14 GMT
> >     Drew has no point.  I have not contacted her outside of this
> > forum.  She's just trying to cause trouble.  Her "ping"ing me or
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> that regularly post here, but I know were not them, based on doing
> some detective work.

    No, Bee - not "if" I didn't email her.  I did not email her.
There is no "if/then" statement to be had here.  Whether I mind if
she
attempts to forge an email from me or not is irrelevant.  My minding
won't effect that behavior a bit.  If and until she does produce such
a thing.   If that happens - then I will try like hell to respond
outside of the internet as well.  If anyone tries to misrepresent me,
they WILL get a phone call or letter or visit by some authority
figure
and they will have to answer for their behavior.  You sound biased
toward believing her.  Not knowing me - and quite obviously not
knowing Jan Drew, I don't
exactly appreciate your ill-founded slant.

    I have a long history of being forthright and open in this
newsgroup.  Yes, my regularity has waned over the past several years,
but my conduct has not.  And I am not afraid to articulate myself
publically.  If I may say so, I'm rather good at it.

    I'm sorry if you've been stung by distasteful emails from anyone
- but most especially if they were forgeries.  But, I'm telling you,
Drew can't produce what she didn't get.  Got it?

                              -stan
stanw - 04 Mar 2008 22:17 GMT
> >     Drew has no point.  I have not contacted her outside of this
> > forum.  She's just trying to cause trouble.  Her "ping"ing me or
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> that regularly post here, but I know were not them, based on doing
> some detective work.

  No, Bee - not "if" I didn't email her.  I did not email her. There
is no "if/then" statement to be had here.  Whether I mind if
she attempts to forge an email from me or not is irrelevant.  My
minding won't effect that behavior a bit.  If and until she does
produce such a thing.   If that happens - then I will try like hell to
respond outside of the internet as well.  If anyone tries to
misrepresent me, they will be getting a phone call or letter or visit
by some authority figure and they will have to answer for their
behavior.  You sound biased toward believing her.  Not knowing me -
and quite obviously not knowing Jan Drew, I don't exactly appreciate
your ill-founded slant.

    I have a long history of being forthright and open in this
newsgroup.  Yes, my regularity has waned over the past several years,
but my conduct has not.  And I am not afraid to articulate myself
publically.  If I may say so, I'm rather good at it.

    I'm sorry if you've been stung by distasteful emails from anyone
- but most especially if they were forgeries.  But, I'm telling you,
Drew can't produce what she didn't get.  Got it?

                              -stan
Bee - 04 Mar 2008 23:16 GMT
>    No, Bee - not "if" I didn't email her.  I did not email her. There
> is no "if/then" statement to be had here.  Whether I mind if
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>  
I have no reason not to believe either one of you.  So, Jan can use,
ARIN.net
to find out where that original email message came from, and then
report it to the ISP that it came from,
sending them a copy of the message that you just post here to me. That
way they (the ISP) will know it
was forged.  Or she can send the email, and post a copy of it here,
showing the forgery.

I am not biased towards Jan, and would believe that you would want to
get to the bottom of this as
it concerns you, and your identity and goodness knows how many times
it has happened previously.
Jan has made you aware of that, and I think you should be thanking her
for letting you know someone
is using your good name.
therogue@rock.com - 04 Mar 2008 23:31 GMT
> >    No, Bee - not "if" I didn't email her.  I did not email her. There
> > is no "if/then" statement to be had here.  Whether I mind if
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> for letting you know someone
> is using your good name.

   Okay, thanks, Bee.  I apologize for my tone to you in my last post
in this thread.  But, *BELIEVE* me, there is nothing benevolent in any
of Jan's actions.  I am well acquainted with her tactics and was
introduced to them over a decade ago.

    Have a good one.

                                                         -stan
stanw - 04 Mar 2008 23:37 GMT
> >    No, Bee - not "if" I didn't email her.  I did not email her. There
> > is no "if/then" statement to be had here.  Whether I mind if
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> for letting you know someone
> is using your good name.

    Okay, Bee.  Thanks for your concern, and I apologize for my tone
toward you in my previous post in this tread.  But, *BELIEVE* me,
there is nothing benevolent in any of Jan's actions.  I was first
introduced to her tactics over a decade ago, and learned very quickly
of her disengenousness.  I see that it is still very well intact.

       Have a good one.


-stan

                                                     -stan
stanw - 04 Mar 2008 23:38 GMT
> >    No, Bee - not "if" I didn't email her.  I did not email her. There
> > is no "if/then" statement to be had here.  Whether I mind if
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> for letting you know someone
> is using your good name.

    Okay, Bee.  Thanks for your concern, and I apologize for my tone
toward you in my previous post in this tread.  But, *BELIEVE* me,
there is nothing benevolent in any of Jan's actions.  I was first
introduced to her tactics over a decade ago, and learned very quickly
of her disengenousness.  I see that it is still very well intact.

       Have a good one.

                                                      -stan
Jan Drew - 06 Mar 2008 04:47 GMT
On Mar 4, 6:16 pm, Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 4, 2:17 pm, stanw <stanwsh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> for letting you know someone
> is using your good name.

    Okay, Bee.  Thanks for your concern, and I apologize for my tone
toward you in my previous post in this tread.  But, *BELIEVE* me,
there is nothing benevolent in any of Jan's actions.  I was first
introduced to her tactics over a decade ago, and learned very quickly
of her disengenousness.  I see that it is still very well intact.

       Have a good one.

                                                      -stan

Stanley W Shura

That is impossible.  I did not even have a computer in 1997.
WWWSC #2 - 05 Mar 2008 11:46 GMT
Bee <Butterflies2222@gmail.com> expounded:

>I am not biased towards Jan,

You should be.

>and would believe that you would want to
>get to the bottom of this as
>it concerns you, and your identity and goodness knows how many times
>it has happened previously.

Stan shouldn't be concerned at all about his good name, Jan is a known
troll and trolls can't do anything to anyone's reputation.
\
>Jan has made you aware of that, and I think you should be thanking her
>for letting you know someone
>is using your good name.

Jan is lying to do just as Stan said, to draw more attention to
herself.  to quote one of her oft-used phrases, sad, that.
Signature

Proud member WWWSC #2
Formerly known as Ann

Bee - 05 Mar 2008 18:19 GMT
> Stan shouldn't be concerned at all about his good name, Jan is a known
> troll and trolls can't do anything to anyone's reputation.

There are so many trolls and puppets that post--it is hard to tell who
is who...

These newsgroups are for entertainment purposes only!
WWWSC #2 - 05 Mar 2008 20:42 GMT
Bee <Butterflies2222@gmail.com> expounded:

>> Stan shouldn't be concerned at all about his good name, Jan is a known
>> troll and trolls can't do anything to anyone's reputation.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>These newsgroups are for entertainment purposes only!

Sad but true.
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Proud member WWWSC #2
Formerly known as Ann

stanw - 05 Mar 2008 21:13 GMT
> > Stan shouldn't be concerned at all about his good name, Jan is a known
> > troll and trolls can't do anything to anyone's reputation.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> These newsgroups are for entertainment purposes only!

    Well, they do have the potential to be informative and
supportive.*Sometimes*, they even ARE! ;)
Regarding the troll patrol, I understand what may have been some
reticence on your part towards me.  It has been awhile for me, and how
could you know my history if in fact I've been, by and large, absent
from a.s.a-d for most of the past several years.

    Anyway, if you're inclined to "check up" on me, or for due
diligence or whatever, you can try entering "shuras" in the search box
at the top of the page, right above "discussions".  You'll see my old
stuff.

    And, you'll see some of the histories of other more nefarious
characters in this newsgroup.  Take care.


-stan
Bee - 05 Mar 2008 21:47 GMT
>      Well, they do have the potential to be informative and
> supportive.*Sometimes*, they even ARE! ;)
> Regarding the troll patrol, I understand what may have been some
> reticence on your part towards me.  It has been awhile for me, and how
> could you know my history if in fact I've been, by and large, absent
> from a.s.a-d for most of the past several years.

It is the "cross posting,"  I thought I was posting to MHA- only.  I'm
sure
the puppets know who they are--and the trolls know who they are---
I read an article about 5 years ago about usenet newsgroups (it was in
a hard copy
not internet form in one of the Psychology magazines), about people
that steal the identities of people that used to post
in newsgroups -- that hadn't been around for awhile, and activate
them--so it would
appear that it was the same person posting again.   The article was
called "Technology Puppetry" or something very close to that.

As I said, this is for entertainment purposes only.....you can pretty
much tell who is a
puppet and who isn't....I had to pull an acquaintance out of one of
those Russian women
scams who got a letter out of no where---and almost fell for it!    We
share a good giggle
every now and then--when I ask him how Tatiana is!!
Frank - 06 Mar 2008 03:20 GMT
On Mar 5, 1:13 pm, stanw <stanwsh...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Well, they do have the potential to be informative and
> supportive.*Sometimes*, they even ARE! ;)
> Regarding the troll patrol, I understand what may have been some
> reticence on your part towards me. It has been awhile for me, and how
> could you know my history if in fact I've been, by and large, absent
> from a.s.a-d for most of the past several years.

It is the "cross posting,"  I thought I was posting to MHA- only.  I'm
sure
the puppets know who they are--and the trolls know who they are---
I read an article about 5 years ago about usenet newsgroups (it was in
a hard copy
not internet form in one of the Psychology magazines), about people
that steal the identities of people that used to post
in newsgroups -- that hadn't been around for awhile, and activate
them--so it would
appear that it was the same person posting again.   The article was
called "Technology Puppetry" or something very close to that.

As I said, this is for entertainment purposes only.....you can pretty
much tell who is a
puppet and who isn't....I had to pull an acquaintance out of one of
those Russian women
scams who got a letter out of no where---and almost fell for it!    We
share a good giggle
every now and then--when I ask him how Tatiana is!!
====================================
Stan likes people to recognize his "impotence".
He is so full of himself but I brought him and his friend down to their
true levels and outed them both. That was basically the point of my
being here. It took a little doing to stir them to the point of
enragement and self degradation but it was done. The queer boys know who
they are. :)

It was fun, and now everyone knows them for what they are.
Bee - 06 Mar 2008 04:10 GMT
> ====================================
> Stan likes people to recognize his "impotence".
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> It was fun, and now everyone knows them for what they are.

Y'all have some history, I am not aware of.  What exactly are you
talking about?
terrym2442 - 06 Mar 2008 04:59 GMT
Bee,
It really is a shame. Many years ago, this was a great spot to connect
and share resources. : (

Terry

www.addconsults.com
www.myADDstore.com

> > Stan shouldn't be concerned at all about his good name, Jan is a known
> > troll and trolls can't do anything to anyone's reputation.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> These newsgroups are for entertainment purposes only!
Linda - 06 Mar 2008 07:27 GMT
> Bee,
> Many years ago, this was a great spot to connect
> and share resources. : (

For whom?

Pedophiles?

Many years ago the disbarred attorney,  and the polymorphous parade of
perverted child molesters,  child porn buffs,  authors of pedo SMBD
FAQ's, smut kings and phone sex proprietors and all their socially
opportunistic cyberpathic sycophants were engaging in the same exact
psychopathic zero sum games being engaged in against Jan against T
Brown,  S Freeman,  Brad J.  Art W,  Ian,  The big Kahuna,  Andrew C.
Sumone, Gotterbe, Jake,  No spamme, the patient of Doktor Nightmare
etc ad nauseum.
WWWSC #2 - 06 Mar 2008 11:22 GMT
Linda <Indomitable2@netzero.com> expounded:

>> Bee,
>> Many years ago, this was a great spot to connect
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Sumone, Gotterbe, Jake,  No spamme, the patient of Doktor Nightmare
>etc ad nauseum.

And here is one of the prime examples of posters who ruined the
newsgroups.  Thanx for offering such a glaring example, Linda!  Good
job!
Signature

Proud member WWWSC #2
Formerly known as Ann

Bee - 06 Mar 2008 12:57 GMT
On Mar 5, 11:27 pm, Linda <Indomitab...@netzero.com> wrote:

> And here is one of the prime examples of posters who ruined the
> newsgroups.  Thanx for offering such a glaring example, Linda!  Good
> job!
> --
> Proud member WWWSC #2
> Formerly known as Ann

So are you in Silicon Valley?
Frank - 07 Mar 2008 00:58 GMT
On Mar 5, 8:59 pm, terrym2442 <terrym2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bee,
> Many years ago, this was a great spot to connect
> and share resources. : (

For whom?

Pedophiles?

Many years ago the disbarred attorney,  and the polymorphous parade of
perverted child molesters,  child porn buffs,  authors of pedo SMBD
FAQ's, smut kings and phone sex proprietors and all their socially
opportunistic cyberpathic sycophants were engaging in the same exact
psychopathic zero sum games being engaged in against Jan against T
Brown,  S Freeman,  Brad J.  Art W,  Ian,  The big Kahuna,  Andrew C.
Sumone, Gotterbe, Jake,  No spamme, the patient of Doktor Nightmare
etc ad nauseum.
===========================================
Check Linda's history in SPP, it is documented there about her personal
association with pedo's, seeking their support and or supporting them,
probably more in other places. Also a bit about her history of posting
and using child porn ng's and ng's associated with pedo's and abusers.

There has also been questions raised about her SO's relationships with
her "child(ren)"
Jan Drew - 06 Mar 2008 02:10 GMT
   Drew has no point.  I have not contacted her outside of this
forum.  

-stan

You most certainly did.  You are a liar.
stanw - 06 Mar 2008 05:05 GMT
>     Drew has no point.  I have not contacted her outside of this
> forum.  
>
> -stan
>
> You most certainly did.  You are a liar.

     Jan, Linda, Frankie, et.al - pay attention.  You are not worth
my time.  You have no credibility.  And my writing energies are spent
on far worthier minds than yours.

     Frankfurt - don't bother trying to "out" me.  I did that oodles
of years ago and it's old news.  Get a f.cking life and find a real
scoop you can pretend to wield.  I'm gay.  Whoopie!  Don't worry -
drooling, self-important, hayseeds whose family trees have no branches
- are not my type.  You're safe.

    Lin-*duh* - See Spot run.  Run, Spot!  Run!  Dick and Jane see
Spot run!  Coprographic wasn't a word when you first spewed it out in
the mid 90's.  That hasn't changed.  Sadly, neither have you.

    Drew - you want to call me a liar - knock yourself out.  Go back
and feel free to find anything that I wouldn't be proud to throw back
down your already over-fatigued throat.  Here - lemme help you out:
stanwshura@yahoo.com, stan.shura@excite.com, stanw, shuras.....

     Search box 'em.  Google 'em.  Yahoo 'em.  Print 'em out and
magnet to your refrig.  Perform some sg's on yourself to 'em.  I don't
give a sh.t.

     Just don't try to present yourselves and your cohorts (who know
very well who they are) as anything but bored, impulsive, self-
aggrandizing, sophomoric f.ck-ups who have long outlasted their
relevance or welcome.

    >>>FLUSH!!!!!!!!<<<
Jan Drew - 06 Mar 2008 06:50 GMT
On Mar 5, 9:10 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> LIAR "stanw" <stanwsh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> You most certainly did. You are a liar.

Stanley W Shura     Drew - you want to call me a liar - knock yourself out.
Go back
and feel free to find anything that I wouldn't be proud to throw back
down your already over-fatigued throat.  Here - lemme help you out:
stanwshura@yahoo.com, stan.shura@excite.com, stanw, shuras.....

Tell me something I didn't already know

 Stanley W Shura    Search box 'em.  Google 'em.  Yahoo 'em.  Print 'em out
and
magnet to your refrig.  Perform some sg's on yourself to 'em.  I don't
give a sh.t.

     Just don't try to present yourselves and your cohorts (who know
very well who they are) as anything but bored, impulsive, self-
aggrandizing, sophomoric f.ck-ups who have long outlasted their
relevance or welcome.

    >>>FLUSH!!!!!!!!<<<

Yep, always happens when one is exposed.

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From: "stan" <stan.sh...@excite.com>
Date: 21 Jul 2006 17:56:10 -0700
Local: Fri, Jul 21 2006 7:56 pm
Subject: BU$TED?

Jan Drew wrote:

These chemistries

> are generally self-stabilizing but when they are, or become, unstable
> symptoms such as ADHD are the result. Thus, many drug companies have
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> very
> high, 85% to 90%, efficacy.

           Did anyone else catch that?

"....our company has found a nutritional supplement approach....."

        ....huh?....wh...what was th......

"...OUR company has found a nutritional supplement approach..."

          ...wait a minu......did I just see......

"...*OUR* company has found a nutrional supplemt approach..."

           .....no way......uh uh......that didn't say wha.....

"...  OUR ...   COMPANY"

              ....you gotta be shi.....

"--------------------------------------->OUR<------------------------------­-----------------"

           Jan Drew, you are a spam spewing, truth bending,
opportunistic a.s!!!!   Who the hell am I kidding?  YOU ARE A MONEY
GRUBBING LIAR!!

                  Go get 'er, Rich.

-stan

Ilena Rose wrote:
> >YOU ARE A MONEY GRUBBING LIAR!!

> Stan honey ... down boy.

> I just read some of your stuff on the net.
> Looks like you came to help Mark with the Ritalin Pushing ... I saw
> your claim of getting a 4.0 after drugging yourself ... good tale but
> sorry, I don't buy it.

                    Wow - you had to go way back to find that post,
didntcha?  That was like, '95 or something.  You had to do something
special to retrieve posts that far back - I couldn't even figure out
how to get past 2001.  Um...get yourself a hobby.

                 Regarding my own treatment and response to it - and
the hard work that went along with it....you don't buy it?  No - you
don't *want* to buy it.  There's a difference.  Lovey - I'm not going
to lose any sleep over your denial.  I could drop a 5-spot in your cup
walking along Mass. Ave. for all the cred you have with me.  No, I take
that back - at least that guy has enough humility to ask  - and
politely I might add.  Scooted over obligingly and was rather
well-spoken at that.

               You on the other hand - coming around like you know
who's who and what's what with ADD.  Who the hell are you that I should
care?  Your ilk and tho$e among you who choo$e which data you con$ider
valid have hi$torically (heh - and hy$terically) never let the truth
get in your way.

           Now don't get your panties in a bunch - I do not share your
fellow conspiracy theorists' mind set that permits a belief in knowing
what "The Absolute Truth" is.  Cuz - as much as it makes me just well
up with tears to admit it - I don't know what that is.

           But - I know my own life experiences and my own truth.  And
you are one arrogant little hussy to jump on here and tell me what I
have and have not done.  I could fax you a grade report, dx
documentation, and pharmacy receipt - all with dates - and you'd still
cup your hands over your ears,  throw your head in the sand and yell
"Noooooooooo!!!!!!!...la la la la la...I can't HEEEEAR YOU!!!"

            What a pity.  For you, that is.

                                                             -stan

P.S. - Damn - that's 6 minutes I wasted on this one that I'll never see
again!  Grrr.......

 Hey, folks.  Been awhile since I've posted (in fact, there are many names
I
don't recognize).  Anyway - there's been something I've been itching to
discuss for a long time - on here and with other ADD folks.

 It seems that whenever the topic of "multi-tasking" comes up, almost
invariably, those folks on here and others who have been dx'd with ADD say
it's something that they do naturally - indeed that it is something they
can't HELP doing.

 I have long lamented that I cannot relate to that AT ALL.  I have a HUGE
amount of difficulty dealing with more than one thing at a time.  In fact,
if
you wanna see me shoot venom, try and make me handle several simultaneous
tasks.

 My problem is that I cannot prioritize or make decisions.  And, I cannot
screen out that which isn't immediately important.  So, even if I am so
lucky
as to decide - 'okay, "A" needs my immediate attention', I cannot deal with
it as long as B and C are poking at me (literally or figuratively).

 For example, I withdrew from college (temporarily) in part because I could
never decide what I should be doing at any given time.  Should I do the
outline FIRST, or look for sources.  Do I start big and narrow the topic, or
choose a small one and build on it if I need to?  How to I find out
something
if I don't know that I don't know?  How do I prioritize when I don't even
realize I need to.

 This sense of not knowing where or how to start was both in the small
sense
and the large.  If I was working on a report for one class, I felt like I
should be studying for the upcoming exam in another.  If I was studying for
that test, I couldn't concentrate because, among other things, I was worried
about reading for another class, or doing that report, or God knows what
else.

 This stuff has followed me everywhere - and of course to my current job
(which I've had for the past fourteen months).  I work at a child
development
center as a toddler teacher/caregiver.  My partner and I are responsible for
up to fourteen of them.  Yep - fourteen children who go from screaming
"NOOOOO!!!" and "MINE!" to writing on the walls with crayon, to jumping off
of tables, to playing in the toilet, to deciding to find out what
(non-toxic)
paint tastes like!

 Now, I KNOW how to take care of toddlers, but sometimes (well, maybe a
little more often than sometimes), I find myself so absorbed in reading a
story to Johny or changing a *VERY* messy diaper (ewwwww! clothes pin
anyone?), or seeing just how long I can make Susie giggle, that I don't
always see Jimmy getting ready to whack another child with a push toy or
practice sky-diving from the highest point he can get to.  AND, sometimes I
just get so overwhelmed I lose the ability to judge - to reason what is most
important in the present.

        I don't mean to make it sound like their environment is constantly
chaotic and dangerous.  It isn't.  But I just feel so often that I'm
teetering
on the edge of complete breakdown (of the room, and of my sanity).

 Usually, at the end of a given day, I reflect and maybe it wasn't quite as
bad (or nearly as bad) as it felt at the moment.  The children and I
survived
the crises, and there were enough warm fuzzies and hugs and "you're *FUNNY*
'tanley!" - to help drag me out of bed the next morning.

 I just don't know who I can turn to who can relate to EXACTLY the kind of
incapacitating indecision and inability to "multi-task".  I can't do it.  Is
there anyone here who feels similarly??  Thanks for letting me vent.  Later.

                                    -stan

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> WOW!!!!
> Stanley W. Shura
> I'm gay

          Gee, how'dja figure that one out, Sherlock?  And more
importantly what the f*ck does that have to do with anything in this
newsgroup?  You're a mess.

                                                           -stan

From: stan.sh...@excite.com (Stanley W. Shura)

Date: 28 May 2001 10:53:01 -0700

Local: Mon, May 28 2001 12:53 pm
Subject: Re: OCD is reason enough to kill

From: "stan" <stan.sh...@excite.com>
Date: 22 Jul 2006 19:52:02 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 22 2006 9:52 pm
Subject: Re: BU$TED?

> >              Is this fun for you?  Did daddy cut up your credit cards
> > or something?  Why are you here?

> >    -stan

> To expose YOU.

> Friend of Mark Probert.....

              By golly, I think that's the first nice thing you've
said to or about me, Jan!  Thanks!

    -stan

From: stan.sh...@excite.com (Stanley W. Shura)
Date: 2 Sep 2001 23:20:43 -0700
Local: Mon, Sep 3 2001 1:20 am
Subject: Re: ive had enough

As far as why gays flaunt their gayness, this I don't know. I've only known
> a few gay men in my life and most of them are, uh......flamboyant about
> their sexuality. I've kind of always wondered why myself, since the few
> lesbians I know don't seem to do this? I usually find gay men charming,
> though- unless they're really militant about it- like those 'I'm here, I'm
> queer, get used to it' types.

        I'd like to put in my two cents here.  First - I think there
is a whole huge variety of sexual orientation and preference and
gender identity beyond being just strictly gay or strictly straight.
I'm gay - and have been around many types of people.  I LOVE
diversity.

        Yes - I have also been around my share of other gay people
and, from my point of view, there are just as many types and/or styles
of gay folks as there are OCD'ers or athletes or musicians.  I and a
few gay friends happen to find the flaunters kind of annoying - and I
personally think it's often downright fake.  Motht gay folkth do not
talk with affected little lithps.  Funny though - I also see myself as
somewhat effeminate - yet, you or he or she or the other person might
not necessarily see me as such.

     Personally - I *despise* macho - and the 1950's/ultra-right
ideation of gender roles.  I am who I am.  I am me.  And as a matter
of fact, having OCD has had a more significant effect on my
self-identity than being gay.

                                      -stan androgeny

From: "stan" <stan.sh...@excite.com>
Date: 22 Jul 2006 19:52:02 -0700
Local: Sat, Jul 22 2006 9:52 pm
Subject: Re: BU$TED?

>              Is this fun for you?  Did daddy cut up your credit cards
> > or something?  Why are you here?

> >    -stan

> To expose YOU.

> Friend of Mark Probert.....

              By golly, I think that's the first nice thing you've
said to or about me, Jan!  Thanks!

    -stan

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>              Is this fun for you?  Did daddy cut up your credit cards
> > or something?  Why are you here?

> >    -stan

> To expose YOU.

> Friend of Mark Probert.....

              By golly, I think that's the first nice thing you've
said to or about me, Jan!  Thanks!

    -stan

Stanley W Shura
Linda - 06 Mar 2008 02:47 GMT
> > > Do NOT email me privately.  Anything that is said can be posted right here,
> > > not behind the scenes,
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> me, and that's why everyone pretty much knows from my posts I don't
> want it.  It just gets deleted.

I'm not so sure you do understand.

Historically speaking,  Stan Shura is ASAD's *coprographic* email
harasser.

If Stan Shura has toned down his harassing emails any,  it's only
because the antiharassment laws have been beefed up in the years since
members of ASAD's criminal cyberstalking ring began sending targeted
individuals harassing emails, whilst saying they didn't send the
harrassing emails, to instigate yet another conflict as a false
pretext for their perpetrating even worse crimes against the targeted
individual,  which in this case is Jan.
Frank - 06 Mar 2008 03:22 GMT
On Mar 4, 6:57 am, Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 3, 11:09 pm, stanw <stanwsh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> me, and that's why everyone pretty much knows from my posts I don't
> want it. It just gets deleted.

I'm not so sure you do understand.

Historically speaking,  Stan Shura is ASAD's *coprographic* email
harasser.

If Stan Shura has toned down his harassing emails any,  it's only
because the antiharassment laws have been beefed up in the years since
members of ASAD's criminal cyberstalking ring began sending targeted
individuals harassing emails, whilst saying they didn't send the
harrassing emails, to instigate yet another conflict as a false
pretext for their perpetrating even worse crimes against the targeted
individual,  which in this case is Jan.
=================================
Still Kentucky?

Stan is a needy fool.
stanw - 06 Mar 2008 05:15 GMT
> Historically speaking,  Stan Shura is ASAD's *coprographic* email
> harasser.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

    Jan, Linda, Frankie, et.al - pay attention.  You are not worth my
time.  You have no credibility.  My history and reputation in this
newsgroup is longstanding and verifiable.  I have long earned the
benefit of the doubt and the right to speak my mind.  I dare say I
have earned the respect of at least being spoken of, and spoken to,
truthfully.

    Thus, my time, my thoughts, and my writing energies are spent on
far worthier minds than those of trolls like the lot of you.

     Frankfurt - don't bother trying to "out" me.  I did that oodles
of years ago and it's old news.  Get a f.cking life and find a real
scoop you can pretend to wield.  I'm gay.  Whoopie!  Don't worry -
drooling, self-important, hayseeds whose family trees have no branches
- are not my type.  You're safe.

    Lin-*duh* - See Spot run.  Run, Spot!  Run!  Dick and Jane see
Spot run!  Coprographic wasn't a word when you first spewed it out in
the mid 90's.  That hasn't changed.  Sadly, neither have you.

    Drew - you want to call me a liar - knock yourself out.  Go back
and feel free to find anything that I wouldn't be proud to throw back
down your already over-fatigued throat.  Here - lemme help you out:
stanwsh...@yahoo.com, stan.shura@excite.com, stanw, shuras.....

    Search box 'em.  Google 'em.  Yahoo 'em.  Print 'em out and
magnet to your refrig.  Suck 'em.  Choke on 'em.  Perform some sg's on
yourself to 'em.  I don't give a sh.t.

    Just don't try to present yourselves as anything but bored,
impulsive, self- aggrandizing, sophomoric f.ck-ups who have long
outlasted their relevance or welcome.

    >>>FLUSH!!!!!!!!<<<
 
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