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Bee - 29 Feb 2008 07:03 GMT
Interesting website - a lot of all sorts of stuff.

http://educate-yourself.org/
Mark Probert - 29 Feb 2008 12:28 GMT
> Interesting website - a lot of all sorts of stuff.

If you define "stuff" as wild, weird and wacko.

You can immediately tell that this is a nutter site when you see the
9/11 conspiracy crap, and the chemtrails bull.
rpautrey2 - 29 Feb 2008 16:51 GMT
MP: I think of Educate Yourself.Org as a
collection of eccentric/esoteric/eclectic info
that many people aren't familiar with. Much of
the info at that site has nothing to do with medicine,
but a lot of the info is true, if you can read between
the lines. There's a lot of crap you have to read in
order to get to the good stuff. You have to look hard
to find my "Sinus Drainage Methods" post in that group.
HA! HA! HA!
PA

Options On Feb 29, 6:28 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > Interesting website - a lot of all sorts of stuff.
>
> If you define "stuff" as wild, weird and wacko.
>
> You can immediately tell that this is a nutter site when you see the
> 9/11 conspiracy crap, and the chemtrails bull.
rpautrey2 - 29 Feb 2008 19:47 GMT
Correction: At that site(not group). PA

> MP: I think of Educate Yourself.Org as a
> collection of eccentric/esoteric/eclectic info
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Mark Probert - 29 Feb 2008 19:53 GMT
> MP: I think of Educate Yourself.Org as a
> collection of eccentric/esoteric/eclectic info

I do not call 9/11 conspiracy crap any of that. I call it utter
bullshit, and when I see it, it calls the sanity and intelligence of
the owner of the website into question.

You may not know it, but I live in a suburb of NY and attended plenty
of funerals for friends and neighbors after 9/11. I still have close
contact with widows, widowers and fatherless children, and bear zero
tolerance of the bullshit. It happened as described. Those who say
otherwise are a.sholes, and do not care about the hurt they are
placing on the families of survivors.

> that many people aren't familiar with. Much of
> the info at that site has nothing to do with medicine,
> but a lot of the info is true, if you can read between
> the lines.

I can read between, above and below the lines. I stop reading where my
Bullshit-O-Meter goes off.

There's a lot of crap you have to read in
> order to get to the good stuff.

"Good stuff" covered with sh.t, is still covered with sh.t. I do not
have to go through sh.t to find "good stuff."

You have to look hard
> to find my "Sinus Drainage Methods" post in that group.
> HA! HA! HA!

That would be an inappropriate affect.

> PA
>
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Carole - 02 Mar 2008 00:21 GMT
On Feb 29, 11:51 am, rpautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> MP: I think of Educate Yourself.Org as a
> collection of eccentric/esoteric/eclectic info

I do not call 9/11 conspiracy crap any of that. I call it utter
bullshit, and when I see it, it calls the sanity and intelligence of
the owner of the website into question.

You may not know it, but I live in a suburb of NY and attended plenty
of funerals for friends and neighbors after 9/11. I still have close
contact with widows, widowers and fatherless children, and bear zero
tolerance of the bullshit. It happened as described. Those who say
otherwise are a.sholes, and do not care about the hurt they are
placing on the families of survivors.

Carole > Nobody is denying that 911 happened, all people are questioning is
the official explanation of the story which has more holes than a piece of
swiss cheese.
Its all lies and fabrications, same as the contrived never ending war on
terror. Its just a cover story for a grab on middle eastern oil.
* * *

> that many people aren't familiar with. Much of
> the info at that site has nothing to do with medicine,
> but a lot of the info is true, if you can read between
> the lines.

I can read between, above and below the lines. I stop reading where my
Bullshit-O-Meter goes off.

Carole > So instead of thinking things through, whether there's a
possibility of something behind a story, you're the type who automatically
shuts down ...very interesting. That would put you into the low level mind
controlled category.

"Most people have built in "slides" that short circuit the mind's critical
examination process when it comes to certain sensitive topics. "Slides" is a
CIA term for a conditioned type of response which dead-ends a person's
thinking, and terminates debate or examination of the topic. For example,
the mention of the word "conspiracy" usually solicits a slide response with
many people.  "
-Fritz Springmeier, author of The Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines and
de-programmer http://www.newworldpeace.com/911menu3.html
* * *

There's a lot of crap you have to read in
> order to get to the good stuff.

"Good stuff" covered with sh.t, is still covered with sh.t. I do not
have to go through sh.t to find "good stuff."

Carole > But how to you know any of Educate-yourself website is sh.t?
There's a higher probability that that website is true than not.
* * *

You have to look hard
> to find my "Sinus Drainage Methods" post in that group.
> HA! HA! HA!

That would be an inappropriate affect.

Carole
www.cellsalts.net
Jan Drew - 02 Mar 2008 06:39 GMT
On Feb 29, 11:51 am, rpautrey2 <rpautr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> MP: I think of Educate Yourself.Org as a
> collection of eccentric/esoteric/eclectic info

*I do not call 9/11 conspiracy crap any of that. I call it utter
bullshit, and when I see it, it calls the sanity and intelligence of
the owner of the website into question.*

That shows you are a very bad Jew who does not read Torah everyday.

*You may not know it, but I live in a suburb of NY and attended plenty
of funerals for friends and neighbors after 9/11. I still have close
contact with widows, widowers and fatherless children, and bear zero
tolerance of the bullshit. It happened as described. Those who say
otherwise are a.sholes, and do not care about the hurt they are
placing on the families of survivors.*

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/21616fe7354cb992
Anecdotes are bullshit. I use facts.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/d94426f8742bc892

Anecdotes are bullshit and prove nothing.

Anecdotes are limited FACTS and not necessarily conclusive.

Anecdotes are bullshit and prove nothing.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/b47238df12888f43

Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories. At
worst, outright lies.

> that many people aren't familiar with. Much of
> the info at that site has nothing to do with medicine,
> but a lot of the info is true, if you can read between
> the lines.

I can read between, above and below the lines. I stop reading where my
Bullshit-O-Meter goes off.

There's a lot of crap you have to read in
> order to get to the good stuff.

"Good stuff" covered with sh.t, is still covered with sh.t. I do not
have to go through sh.t to find "good stuff."

You have to look hard
> to find my "Sinus Drainage Methods" post in that group.
> HA! HA! HA!

*That would be an inappropriate affect.*

I thought you posted *your opinion does not count*
Carole - 02 Mar 2008 00:14 GMT
On Feb 29, 2:03 am, Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting website - a lot of all sorts of stuff.

If you define "stuff" as wild, weird and wacko.

You can immediately tell that this is a nutter site when you see the
9/11 conspiracy crap, and the chemtrails bull.

Carole > Don't tell me you actually believe the official 911 coverup.

Carole
www.cellsalts.net
Mark Probert - 02 Mar 2008 03:05 GMT
> On Feb 29, 2:03 am, Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
> Carole > Don't tell me you actually believe the official 911 coverup.

Not only do Ibeleive it, I know it is true. I also know that anyone
who denies is has a serious mental health issue. Someone stole their
brain.

I live where it happened. I lost friends and neighbors. I carried
coffins. I wiped tears.
Bee - 02 Mar 2008 06:01 GMT
> > Carole > Don't tell me you actually believe the official 911 coverup.
>
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> I live where it happened. I lost friends and neighbors. I carried
> coffins. I wiped tears.

Carole:   I'm sure Mark knows all about the firefighters and police
officers, and the cover up;
if I remember correctly Mark is kind of related to one who was part of
Rudy's force.    I'm sure Mark also knows first handed about the
firefighters, emergency techs, volunteers, and police officers who
were sickened by the site, and the smells that  have  made  these
people very ill and/or  the numerous people that died at Ground
Zero.   Firefighters that finally found some relief from all of this
at the Environmental Health Center in Dallas, TX, and according to the
information
presented, the firefighters felt better after their  time at EHC-
Dallas, and that they didn't have a problem with the treatment there;
it would appear that their insurance company did.    Perhaps no one at
their insurance company had been at Ground Zero and worked with the
smell, dust, and particles of unknown substances day after day after
day, and were clueless to what was really down there--

Mark was there, I'd bet dollars to donuts that, he probably had some
good information.
Mark Probert - 02 Mar 2008 14:48 GMT
> > > Carole > Don't tell me you actually believe the official 911 coverup.
>
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> Carole:   I'm sure Mark knows all about the firefighters and police
> officers, and the cover up;

What cover-up? And, while we are at it, do not profess to speak for
me. Here, you clearly did it.

> if I remember correctly Mark is kind of related to one who was part of
> Rudy's force.  

Over a decade ago and way before 9/11.

 I'm sure Mark also knows first handed about the
> firefighters, emergency techs, volunteers, and police officers who
> were sickened by the site, and the smells that  have  made  these
> people very ill and/or  the numerous people that died at Ground
> Zero.  

Quite true, and the consequential cancers that are now beginning to
appear.

Firefighters that finally found some relief from all of this
> at the Environmental Health Center in Dallas, TX, and according to the
> information
> presented, the firefighters felt better after their  time at EHC-
> Dallas,

Nope. Do not know one who went to this questionable place.

and that they didn't have a problem with the treatment there;
> it would appear that their insurance company did.    Perhaps no one at
> their insurance company had been at Ground Zero and worked with the
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> Mark was there, I'd bet dollars to donuts that, he probably had some
> good information.

Donuts are fattening.
Bee - 02 Mar 2008 19:27 GMT
Mark, I answered you, based on what was written by you, and by
Carole.

This is what  Carole wrote:   > Don't tell me you actually believe the
official 911 coverup.

> > >Probert:   Not only do Ibeleive it, I know it is true. I also know that anyone
> > > who denies is has a serious mental health issue. Someone stole their
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> What cover-up? And, while we are at it, do not profess to speak for
> me. Here, you clearly did it.

Go back and read what you wrote originally.  I've copied your post
above.  Are you now saying you didn't mean to answer in the manner
that you did to Carole's post?

>Bee:  if I remember correctly Mark is kind of related to one who was
part of
> > Rudy's force.  
>
> Probert:  Over a decade ago and way before 9/11.

I apologize.  I thought that based on something you wrote right after
that that you knew someone on the force.

> Bee:  I'm sure Mark also knows first handed about the
>
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> Probert:  Quite true, and the consequential cancers that are now beginning to
> appear.

Those police officers, and firefighter web pages tear my heart out.
And they are not
just all New York workers.   I do not suppose we will ever know what
all that they were exposed
to either.

> Bee:  Firefighters that finally found some relief from all of this
>
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>
> Probert:  Nope. Do not know one who went to this questionable place.

Questionable - how do you figure that?  Have you ever been there, or
is it
hearsay?   A lot of places get bad raps from people making up stuff.
I had
to laugh when I met a patient there after one of my "drive by" visits
one time who
claimed he never prescribes  pharmaceuticals---I pulled out a bottle
out of my purse,
and said, "Hmm.....so who did, and used his name?"  A lot of
misinformation comes
out of there by the patients themselves.   I haven't been back there
since 2001 although
I have been in Dallas on numerous occasions.   There was a really good
doctor there that
I liked that worked there part time.  He was a doctor for NASA.
Really knew his stuff.  Knew
a lot of environmental medicine, not to say that Dr. Rea didn't, but
it was nice to have another
point of view as a second opinion.

>Bee and that they didn't have a problem with the treatment there;
>
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>
> Probert:  Donuts are fattening.

I agree.  I do not eat them.  I've never eaten a Krispy Kreme. I heard
they were like licking
a can of shortening.  Not that I have ever done that either--<g>
Jan Drew - 02 Mar 2008 06:42 GMT
On Mar 1, 7:14 pm, "Carole" <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> Carole > Don't tell me you actually believe the official 911 coverup.

Not only do Ibeleive it, I know it is true. I also know that anyone
who denies is has a serious mental health issue. Someone stole their
brain.

I live where it happened. I lost friends and neighbors. I carried
coffins. I wiped tears.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.attn-deficit/msg/b47238df12888f43

Anecdotes are not facts. They are, at best interesting stories. At
worst, outright lies.
Jan Drew - 02 Mar 2008 06:27 GMT
On Feb 29, 2:03 am, Bee <Butterflies2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting website - a lot of all sorts of stuff.

*If you define "stuff" as wild, weird and wacko.

You can immediately tell that this is a nutter site when you see the
9/11 conspiracy crap, and the chemtrails bull.*

Poor Mark calls facts conspiracy crap, and the chemtrails bull.
Did you read Torah today, Markey?
Of course not.  That was just another of your many, many, many, lies.
 
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