Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion Groups
General
GeneralCardiologyVisionDentistryPharmacyLaboratoryNutritionAlternative
Diseases and Disorders
AIDSAlzheimer'sArthritisAsthmaCancerBreast CancerDiabetesEpilepsyGlaucomaHepatitisHerpesLupusProstate BPHProstate CancerProstatitisSinusitisTinnitus

Medical Forum / General / Alternative / February 2008

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Corn and Cancer

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
ironjustice - 27 Jan 2008 20:52 GMT
"IP6 has the potential for adenocarcinoma"

Oncol Rep. 2008 Feb;19(2):563-6. Links
Corn-derived carbohydrate inositol hexaphosphate inhibits Barrett's
adenocarcinoma growth by pro-apoptotic mechanisms.
McFadden DW, Riggs DR, Jackson BJ, Cunningham C.
Department of Surgery, Robert C. Byrd Health Science Center, West
Virginia University, Morgantown, WV 26506, USA.
david.mcfadden@vtmednet.org.

Inositol hexaphosphate (IP6) is a naturally occurring
polyphosphorylated carbohydrate that is found in food sources high in
fiber content. IP6 has been reported to have significant inhibitory
effects against a variety of primary tumors. We hypothesized that IP6
would inhibit the cell growth rate of Barrett's adenocarcinoma in
vitro. Two Barrett's-associated adenocarcinoma cell lines, SEG-1 and
BIC-1, were treated with IP6 at 0.5, 1.0 and 5.0 mM concentrations.
Cell viability was measured by MTT assay. Apoptosis and necrosis were
evaluated by the Annexin V FITC assay. Reductions (P<0.001) in
cellular proliferation were observed in both cell lines. IP6 decreased
late apoptosis and necrosis in BIC cells, whereas in SEG-1 cells,
early apoptosis, late apoptosis and necrosis were all increased by
IP6. IP6 decreases cellular growth by pro-apoptotic mechanisms. Our
findings suggest that IP6 has the potential to become an effective
adjunct for Barrett's adenocarcinoma. Further studies are needed to
evaluate safety and clinical utility of this agent in patients with
Barrett's adenocarcinoma.

PMID: 18202808 [PubMed - in process]

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
drceephd@insightbb.com - 27 Jan 2008 21:03 GMT
> "IP6 has the potential for adenocarcinoma"
>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

This paper does not alter my opinion, but rather strengtens it.

My opinion is that IP6 is a natural poison, and insecticide, produced
by plants.
Big Pharma is always looking for some poison to use as a medicine.
By injecting certain poisons into the body, these poisons will be
routed out of the body as rapidly as possible, and possibly shipped to
tumors being used as toxic waste sites.

I learned nothing new here Iron, sorry.

DrCee
ironjustice - 27 Jan 2008 21:17 GMT
On Jan 27, 3:03 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: This paper does not
alter my opinion, but rather strengtens it. <<

No accounting for stupidity.

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

> > "IP6 has the potential for adenocarcinoma"
>
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -
Mr. Natural-Health - 27 Jan 2008 21:20 GMT
> On Jan 27, 3:03 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: This paper does not
> alter my opinion, but rather strengtens it. <<
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

Talking about yourself nodoubt?
Mark Thorson - 27 Jan 2008 21:20 GMT
> "IP6 has the potential for adenocarcinoma"
>
> Oncol Rep. 2008 Feb;19(2):563-6. Links
> Corn-derived carbohydrate inositol hexaphosphate inhibits
> Barrett's adenocarcinoma growth by pro-apoptotic mechanisms.

It should be noted that dried corn products are
a major dietary source of aflatoxin, a powerful
carcinogen.
Tom - 27 Jan 2008 22:42 GMT
>> "IP6 has the potential for adenocarcinoma"
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> a major dietary source of aflatoxin, a powerful
> carcinogen.

So the conclusion is that we should teach our undeveloped digestion system
how to deal with carcinogens.

For example turn carcinogens into new brain cell so with bigger brains we
can understand better what is really going on.
ironjustice - 06 Feb 2008 13:21 GMT
On Jan 27, 2:42 pm, "Tom" <mnop...@abcdefghijkl.com> wrote:So the
conclusion is that we should teach our undeveloped digestion system
how to deal with carcinogens. <<

If phytase .. is what you are looking for .. IE: "how to deal with
carcinogens" .. in this SPECIFIC case we are speaking about ..
**phytate** / "how to deal with carcinogens"  ,, found in every plant
food .. then the fact the microbe which produces this phytase is found
in your snot .. means .. ?

We are long past this "undeveloped digestion system " .. ?

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

> >> "IP6 has the potential for adenocarcinoma"
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> For example turn carcinogens into new brain cell so with bigger brains we
> can understand better what is really going on.
ironjustice@aol.com - 16 Feb 2008 06:20 GMT
On Feb 6, 5:21 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:So the
conclusion is that we should teach our undeveloped digestion system
how to deal with carcinogens. <<

Seems the phytase found IN the grain is an effective INDUCER of zinc
and iron absorption .. **contrary** to the accepted theoretical ..
paradoxical .. killer .. phytate.

Hmm .. heard that somewhere .. before.
I guess the body doesn't let itself starve of iron .. after .. all ..

"Valuable source of iron and zinc"

They say that because phytate is easily overcome .. if .. .need .. be.

doi:10.1016/j.lwt.2007.04.001
Copyright (c) 2007 Swiss Society of Food Science and Technology
Published by Elsevier Ltd.
Effect of wheat pearling on flour phytase activity, phytic acid, iron,
and zinc content

Zhenghui Liua, , , Haiyan Wanga, Xiu-E Wanga, Hongyan Xua, Derong
Gaob, Guoping Zhangc, Peidu Chena and Dajun Liua
aCollege of Agronomy, Nanjing Agricultural University, Weigang 1,
Nanjing 210095, China
bLixiahe Agricultural Research Institute, Jiangsu Academy of
Agricultural Science, Yangzhou 225007, China
cDepartment of Agronomy, Zhejiang University, Kaixuan Road 268,
Hangzhou 310029, China
Received 2 August 2006;  revised 2 April 2007;  accepted 3 April
2007.  Available online 10 April 2007.

Abstract
This study examined the effect of wheat pearling on distribution of
phytase, phytic acid, iron, and zinc in wheat fractions derived from
pearling and roller milling. Grains of four wheat varieties were first
pearled by a rice polisher at four levels, i.e. non-pearling
(unpearled), 5% pearling (5% of the original sample weight was
pearled), 10% pearling, and 15% pearling, to produce pearling fines
(PF) and pearled grains. The unpearled and pearled grains were then
milled through a Bühler MLU-202 laboratory mill, producing eight
milling fractions. Results showed that pearling had a positive effect
on flour yield, which may be attributed to the reduced yield of coarse
bran and the improved yield of first and second reduction fractions.
PF had high levels of all the four components, indicating that they
could be a valuable source of iron and zinc. In addition, the
differences between flours from the pearled and unpearled wheat were
slight in terms of these four components.

Keywords: Phytase; Phytic acid; Iron; Zinc; Pearling; Wheat

Abbreviations: B1-B3, break fractions 1-3; CB; Coarse bran; FB, fine
bran; PF, pearling fines; P0; P5; P10; and P15, treatment of non-
pearling, 5% pearling, 10 % pearling, and 15% pearling; R1-R3,
reduction fractions 1-3.

Corresponding author. Tel/fax: +86 25 84396475.

LWT - Food Science and Technology
Volume 41, Issue 3, April 2008, Pages 521-527

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

> On Jan 27, 2:42 pm, "Tom" <mnop...@abcdefghijkl.com> wrote:So the
> conclusion is that we should teach our undeveloped digestion system
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -
Perriegh - 16 Feb 2008 21:39 GMT
A two-year study by the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine
found that by monitoring volunteers' stool samples for corn content by
volume over a period of one year, researchers could predict by as much
as 92-percent a patient's probability of contracting lower digestive
tract cacinomas.
dorsy1943 - 18 Feb 2008 09:52 GMT
> A two-year study by the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine
> found that by monitoring volunteers' stool samples for corn content by
> volume over a period of one year, researchers could predict by as much
> as 92-percent a patient's probability of contracting lower digestive
> tract cacinomas.

Positively or negatively correlated?  By corn did they mean corn as in
frozen corn or corn on the cob, or corn as in high fructose corn syrup
and refined corn flour as in tacos and corn bread.  Was there any
other food that people who eat lots of corn (or little corn) also
eat.  Is corn the cause or the marker.?  I seldom eat corn, but there
are whole cultures who traditionally eat corn as a large part of their
diets.  Do these people have more lower digestive tract carcinomas?

Dolores
D. C. Sessions - 18 Feb 2008 13:57 GMT
>> A two-year study by the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine
>> found that by monitoring volunteers' stool samples for corn content by
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> are whole cultures who traditionally eat corn as a large part of their
> diets.  Do these people have more lower digestive tract carcinomas?

Well, that's the end of that thread.
Asking epidemiological questions is a sure-fire way to kill
these "magic food" threads.  We recently had one who told
us that vitamin A would prevent/cure all respiratory ailments,
and I asked whether the Inuit (with their near-toxic A diet)
records with the IHS showed any respiratory ailments.

Dead silence.

Similarly with Scudamore's "cayenne cures heart disease."
All you have to do is ask if New Mexico has lower heart
disease rates than Colorado.

Now you bring up the fact that most of Mexico and a good
bit of the southern United States uses maize as its primary
source of starch, and in the case of Mexico as its #1 staple.

As noted, it's the end of the thread.

| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
|    The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?"    |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
ironjustice - 28 Jan 2008 20:25 GMT
On Jan 27, 3:20 pm, Mark Thorson <nos...@sonic.net> wrote: It should
be noted that dried corn products are
a major dietary source of aflatoxin, a powerful carcinogen. <<

Soo .. you **agree** taking phytate OUT of corn would be a .. bad ..
idea.

Since phytate IS the substance IN corn which keeps the aflatoxin in
check .. ?

Evaluation of the effect of phytic (inositol phosphate) and linoleic
acids on
the biosynthesis of aflatoxin
S. SHAHID-ALI1, D. L. PARK2, and H. Njapau2. (1) Food Science
Department,
Louisiana State University, 111-Food Science Bldg., Baton Rouge, LA
70803, (2)
Center for Food Safety & Applied Nutrition, Food and Drug
Administration (FDA),
200 C St. S.W., Washington D.C., DC 20204

Consumption of mycotoxins, especially aflatoxin B1 (AFB1), is
associated with
occurrence of liver cancer. Naturally aflatoxin contaminated corn
extracts show
a lower mutagenic potential than pure AFB1 in the Salmonella/
microsomal assay,
presumably due to the presence of inositol phosphates (InsPs) and
linoleic
acid. The role of InsPs and linoleic acid on the overall risk posed by
AFB1
occurrence is important since they comprise more than 1% of the dry
weight of
cereals, oilseeds and nuts. This study was conducted to evaluate the
effect of
the presence of InsP analogs and linoleic acid, on aflatoxin
production by
Aspergillus flavus in Czapek-Dox liquid medium, and on corn during
storage.
Czapek-Dox medium, containing different phytic acid concentrations
was
inoculated with a spore suspension of Aspergillus flavus and AFB1
production
was monitored by TLC during 25-days incubation at 28°C, in the
presence/absence
of various ions. In the storage study, whole kernel and cracked corn
was also
inoculated in the presence of varying amounts of phytic and linoleic
acids, in
a controlled environment for 5-weeks. Aflatoxin biosynthesis was
monitored
every 4-days using HPLC. Inhibition of AFB1 biosynthesis in liquid
medium was
observed as the concentration of InsP increased. Complete inhibition
of AFB1
production was recorded at InsP levels of 0.5 and 1 mg/100ml in the
absence of
Fe++ and Zn++ ions. In storage, aflatoxin levels were ~50% lower in
samples
separately treated with phytic and linoleic acids after 14-days.
Aflatoxin
production in InsP-treated samples was substantially lower than
Linoleic
acid-treated samples. No such reductions were recorded in samples
treated with
phytic-linoleic acids combination. Although individually phytic and
linoleic
acids lower aflatoxin production, their simultaneous presence negates
this
effect. These results do not, however, reduce the benefits arising
from
reported inhibition of aflatoxin mutagenicity/biosynthesis by the
same
compounds.

Session 3, Toxicology & Safety Evaluation
8:30 AM - 12:00 PM, 2002-06-17

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
Dangerous_Dan - 30 Jan 2008 19:31 GMT
>> "IP6 has the potential for adenocarcinoma"
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> a major dietary source of aflatoxin, a powerful
> carcinogen.

I love to eat corn that I buy in frozen packages.
Is this considered dried?  Will it be a source of aflatoxin?
Should I stop eating frozen corn?
matt weber - 30 Jan 2008 20:07 GMT
>>> "IP6 has the potential for adenocarcinoma"
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Is this considered dried?  Will it be a source of aflatoxin?
>Should I stop eating frozen corn?

Probably not. Aflatoxin is produced by a fungus that likes dried corn,
and peanuts among others. (it is a more serious problem in peanuts
than in corn).

Corn which is fresh when eaten, or when processed (canned or frozen),
will not have the fungus, or aflatoxin.
Mark Thorson - 30 Jan 2008 20:42 GMT
> "Mark Thorson" <nospam@sonic.net> wrote in message
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Is this considered dried?  Will it be a source of aflatoxin?
> Should I stop eating frozen corn?

No.  The aflatoxins are produced by a mold that
infects corn while it is being dried.  Frozen corn
is generally speaking not dried.
ReaderRabbit - 01 Feb 2008 02:37 GMT
> > "Mark Thorson" <nos...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> infects corn while it is being dried.  Frozen corn
> is generally speaking not dried.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
While eating peanuts, I occasionally crunch a bitter one
with a foul taste.  I immediately roll the mashed peanut
with my tongue and spit it out with saliva.  Is this sufficient
to cancel the aflatoxin danger ?

David H aka Reader Rabbit
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark Thorson - 01 Feb 2008 18:49 GMT
> While eating peanuts, I occasionally crunch a bitter one
> with a foul taste.  I immediately roll the mashed peanut
> with my tongue and spit it out with saliva.  Is this sufficient
> to cancel the aflatoxin danger ?

I wouldn't eat peanuts, even if I knew they weren't moldy,
unless I knew my Thomsen-Friedenreich antigen status.

In this study, 10 out of 36 participants were found to be
positive for the Thomsen-Friedenreich antigen, which
causes the cells of their rectum to divide rapidly (possible
risk factor for colorectal cancer) when they eat peanuts.
The color pictures which accompanied this article were
quite frightening.  Haven't had a peanut since!

Gastroenterology 1998 Jan;114(1):44-9
Peanut ingestion increases rectal proliferation in individuals
with mucosal expression of peanut lectin receptor.
Ryder SD, Jacyna MR, Levi AJ, Rizzi PM, Rhodes JM.
Department of Gastroenterology, Northwick Park Hospital,
Middlesex, England.

BACKGROUND & AIMS: The Thomsen-Friedenreich
blood group antigen (galactose beta 1,3-N-acetyl
galactosamine alpha-) acts as an oncofetal antigen
in the colonic epithelium, with low expression in
normal adult epithelia but increasing to fetal levels
of expression in hyperplasia or malignancy. Peanut
lectin is one of the commonest dietary lectins that
binds this antigen. The aim of this study was to
determine whether peanut ingestion can alter rectal
epithelial proliferation.

METHODS: Thirty-six patients with normal colonic
mucosa consumed 100 g of peanuts each
day for 5 days. Rectal mitotic index was measured
before and after ingestion, and changes in
proliferation were correlated with immunohistochemical
detection of lectin receptor expression by
colonocytes and fecal lectin activity as measured
by hemagglutination assay.

RESULTS: Peanut ingestion caused a 41% increase
in rectal mucosal proliferation in individuals with
macroscopically normal mucosa who express
TF antigen in their rectal mucosae (10 of 36
patients studied). The proliferative response
correlated with fecal hemagglutinating activity, and
peanut lectin could be shown immunohistochemically
within the rectal mucosa.

CONCLUSIONS: The common expression
of galactose beta 1,3-N-acetyl galactosamine
alpha- by hyperplastic and neoplastic epithelia
may therefore be functionally important because it
allows interaction with mitogenic dietary lectins.
This could be an important mechanism for the
association between diet and colorectal cancer.
Taka - 04 Feb 2008 02:01 GMT
> > While eating peanuts, I occasionally crunch a bitter one
> > with a foul taste.  I immediately roll the mashed peanut
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> This could be an important mechanism for the
> association between diet and colorectalcancer.

Very interesting study.  There are perhaps many other mitogenic
dietary lectins in different plant foods (beans, grains, nuts) which
may stimulate neoplasia in susceptible people.  The gluten/celiac
disease may be another major example.  That's why the meat + high fat
and low carb diets work.  It's difficult to do genetic tests but could
the "common" food intolerance tests measuring just IgG antibodies help
in this respect?  Or is the sensitivity related to the blood types
like Adamo says?

Taka
srister - 17 Feb 2008 21:50 GMT
One has to be sure the corn they are eating is not GMO. If it is, then you
can get sick very fast.
Cows are fed GMO corn, and if you do a bit of research, you will find that
you should never give cattle corn. Ever.

www.winr.us/twistedpickle

>> "IP6 has the potential for adenocarcinoma"
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> a major dietary source of aflatoxin, a powerful
> carcinogen.
Mark Thorson - 17 Feb 2008 22:31 GMT
> One has to be sure the corn they are eating is not GMO.
> If it is, then you can get sick very fast.

And that's because of what?  GMO organisms
have the same genetic heritage as the plants
from which they are made.  How could
it make anybody sick?  How could adding
good genes (such as the genes for making
beta-carotene) make a food bad?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice

That could save the eyesight of people in
many underdeveloped countries, who would
otherwise go blind from vitamin A deficiency.

Why are you against that?
D. C. Sessions - 17 Feb 2008 22:35 GMT
> That could save the eyesight of people in
> many underdeveloped countries, who would
> otherwise go blind from vitamin A deficiency.
>
> Why are you against that?

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
|    The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?"    |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
D. C. Sessions - 17 Feb 2008 22:34 GMT
> One has to be sure the corn they are eating is not GMO. If it is, then you
> can get sick very fast.
> Cows are fed GMO corn, and if you do a bit of research, you will find that
> you should never give cattle corn. Ever.

Unfortunately, there really isn't any non-GM corn outside
of seed banks -- and the stuff you grow from them isn't
terribly appetizing.

| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
|    The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?"    |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
Peter Bowditch - 17 Feb 2008 22:49 GMT
>One has to be sure the corn they are eating is not GMO. If it is, then you
>can get sick very fast.

Why?

>Cows are fed GMO corn, and if you do a bit of research, you will find that
>you should never give cattle corn. Ever.

Why not?

Signature

Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2008 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.