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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / February 2008Kids over diagnosed and over medicated for ADHD
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/94801.php Study Raises Questions About Diagnosis, Medical Treatment Of ADHD A new UCLA study shows that only about half of children diagnosed with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD, exhibit the cognitive defects commonly associated with the condition. The study also found that in populations where medication is rarely prescribed to treat ADHD, the prevalence and symptoms of the disorder are roughly equivalent to populations in which medication is widely used....... ......Researchers also found surprising results regarding the effectiveness of medicine in treating ADHD. In contrast to children in United States, youth in northern Finland are rarely treated with medicine for ADHD, yet the 'look' of the disorder its prevalence, symptoms, psychiatric comorbidity and cognition is relatively the same as in the U.S., where stimulant medication is widely used. The researchers point out that this raises important issues about the efficacy of the current treatments of ADHD in dealing with the disorder's long-term problems. "We know medication is very effective in the short-term," said Smalley, who authored or co-authored each of the papers. "But the study raises important questions concerning the long-term efficacy of ADHD treatment. Here we have two different cultures and two different approaches to treatment, yet at the time of adolescence, there are few differences in the presentation and problems associated with ADHD.".... Perhaps the model of treatment here is driven by the drug companies who we all realise are almost charitable organizations. Thanks Vince > http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/94801.php <copyrighted material deleted> > Thanks Vince You're welcome. Where in the article did it say that kids were either overdiagnosed or over medicated for ADHD? Jeff >> http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/94801.php > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jeff It is not an article. It is a study. >>> http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/94801.php >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > It is not an article. It is a study. No, it's an article on a website. It is describing the results of a study. Nor was there any conclusion that kids are overdiagnosed or over medicated for ADHD on the page. Jeff >>> http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/94801.php >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >It is not an article. It is a study. A study is something you do. An article is something you write. An article can be a report of a study but it can't be the study itself. Make a note.  SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/94801.php > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Thanks Vince Vince, In northern Finland, the locals are used to an herb providing the help they need. Most countries in the northern regions of the world use Rhodiola rosea for ADHD. It is only in the USA that we deem it necessary to use stimulants. Dave Leave the kids alone already. The stimulants are what cause much of our present day problems. Whoever heard of ADHD before we were flooded with anti-depressant .As I have said a thousand times, they have an ability to transfer harm to an innocent person by the user. Read website DoctorBrains.org comments on Crohns and Colitis by Kureforcrohns. Strange to think what one person ingests can harm another, but that is so with stimulants. And distance does not stop the damage, the mind just follows the victim and continues doing harm. Stimulants have become a plague by a a rollover effect. Gail > http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/94801.php > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Thanks Vince > Leave the kids alone already. The stimulants are what cause much of our > present day problems. Whoever heard of ADHD before we were flooded with > anti-depressant OK, history isn't your forte. > .As I have said a thousand times, they have an ability to > transfer harm to an innocent person by the user. Read website [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > follows the victim and continues doing harm. Stimulants have become a > plague by a a rollover effect. This particular belief has a lot to be said for it, since it's pretty much untestable. | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. | | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ OK History is not my forte. What history are you speaking of. Give a short summary. And the theory is testable. If you know any child with Inflammatory Bowel Disease, they are the easiest to return to normalcy. Their contacts are limited, usually mother on anti-depressants, father might be on anti-depressant or marijuana or other relative or friend of family etc. be on a stimulant. Remove the stimulant, th child is fine. I do not take this situation lightly. It has become an every day, every moment concern for my dearest people in nursing homes, where some residents are on anti-depressants, leaving the rest in jeopardy of health destruction and premature death. Constantly telling the administrator to ban the anti-depressants so everyone can feel normal. She refuses, says the doctor calls the shots. To me her vocation is murder, just like Hitler (She loves that, says everyone has to die sometime. Yes, I agree, everyone has to die sometime, but not by her hand or her doctor's hand. Nursing homes are killing fields with the anti-depressants. The home physician only treats what he sees, cannot distinguish what is the progression of the illness they came for and the totally unrelated illness many experience. I have watched this over and over, and experienced it, and why would I say this if I DID NOT KNOW IT TO BE TRUE. An antidepressant is what I desperately need, but will not take. My mind is connected to these people and it would kill them quickly. G-d forbid another person with whom they are social or being observed, kills them. Crazy, no, the world has become crazy with the overload of anti-depressants who the pharmaceutical and physicians say we need. What happened to talk therapy. They are deaf and dumb in that respect. If this one nursing home would ban the anti-depressants, that might be an accomplishment that would shut me up for awhile. Gail >> Leave the kids alone already. The stimulants are what cause much of our >> present day problems. Whoever heard of ADHD before we were flooded with [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | > +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ Also, read my post on Alt.journalism on the subject. There is a very short excerpt written by Dr. Burrill Crohns that says some unidentifiable agent is at work. and I say that unidentifiable agent are stimulants. The post is "Looking for Descendents" written on Jan 22. Gail > OK History is not my forte. What history are you speaking of. Give a > short summary. And the theory is testable. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > home would ban the anti-depressants, that might be an accomplishment that > would shut me up for awhile Gail-----------+ On Jan 23, 6:15 pm, "news.chi.sbcglobal.net" <kureforcro...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Leave the kids alone already. The stimulants are what cause much of our > present day problems. Whoever heard of ADHD before we were flooded with > anti-depressant Lots of people. It was called other things, but it existed way back when. .As I have said a thousand times, they have an ability to > transfer harm to an innocent person by the user. Say it a million times, but, it is still a wacko idea. Read website > DoctorBrains.org comments on Crohns and Colitis by Kureforcrohns. Isn't that you? Are you citing yourself as a source? > Strange to think what one person ingests can harm another, but that is so > with stimulants. And distance does not stop the damage, the mind just > follows the victim and continues doing harm. Stimulants have become a > plague by a a rollover effect. Why not check in for a check up from the neck up, and roll over when they offer you a shot of something that may actuallyhelp you? > >http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/94801.php > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Mark, I hate to say that what I write is true. If anyone wishes it were not true, it is me. Sorry you cannot see anything in what I write. If you lived here, I would beg you to take my friend out of the nursing home and a different person would emerge. She lived with me for 8 years, but likes the nursing home and I cannot blame her. It is very nice, care is good, very amiable people. BUT it all means borscht as the anti-depressants in the home will kill prematurely. The adminstrator considers herself a good person, (orthodox), but to me she is simply a killer and cares nothing about the residents. I no longer have the means to take my friend out. It has changed my life to a life of worry, despair etc. If I do not know anything else, I know about how crohns can devastate and kill and not even the doctor can recognize the illness that killed as crohns. That is how confusing the issue is. But not to a very observant person or one who has had experience. I wish we could find a common ground on which to come to some understanding. This is a problem that confronts all of society. So many are sick without knowing why. What is so important about the residents having anti-depressants. If no one has them, NO ONE feels the need for them. Valium could ease their anxiety with no harm to anyone. But one nurse told me the home or psychiatrist gets paid for dispensing anti-depressants. The same nurse got ill with crohns and couldn't walk. Asked me why he was ill, and I told me exactly who was observing him in the small lobby next to the desk he worked at. A week later, he said he was diagnosed with crohns. So instead of saying something to the administrator/owner he quit. They have a fast turnover at the desk, sooner or later anyone can be affected even among the workers. I'll stop talking now as there is still a million words I can say. It affects my family also, so I am surely distraught. Gail > http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/94801.php > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > are roughly equivalent to populations in which medication is widely > used....... Hey, Vince, toyou have a clue as towhat this paragraph means? I'll help you, as you have yet to demonstrate the ability toread for comprehension. Simply put (just for you) it means that those morons who claim that "Big Pharma" has crfeated the AD/HD "epidemic" had nothing to do with it! IN fact it suggests that there is no true epidemic. Thanks for the great article and your post. You continue to prove you cannot read for compfrehension. > Simply put (just for you) it means that those morons who claim that > "Big Pharma" has crfeated the AD/HD "epidemic" had nothing to do with > it! IN fact it suggests that there is no true epidemic. But it often, perhaps usually, is not a disease, but a reaction to the environment. (see article below) And of course Big Pharma markets diseases as well as medicines. They are a business and that is what marketing departments do. The create needs. Why? There is more money in it. That the patterns these children are exhibiting, those who actually are, might have sources other than ones ususually tracked and treated medically is something the BP has tried to downplay, and it has hired noisy little know so littles like you as part of the PR campaign to protect their profits. Food Additives Trigger ADHD in Clinical Trial Clinical trial links attention deficit/hyperactivity behaviors to blend of artificial food preservative and colors by Craig Weatherby Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) can take quite a toll on kids, caregivers, and teachers. And the widespread prescription of stimulant-type ADHD drugs like Ritalin for children, whose brains are still forming, makes many parents and resarchers nervous. So parents' ears prick up at the hint of anything that might alleviate ADHD without resort to controversial pharmaceuticals. We've reported on research indicating that omega-3s may help some children with ADHD. A new study suggests that there may be substance to some parents' claims that their kids' ADHD is triggered or Key Points * Controlled clinical trial yields rare evidence that additives may cause attention deficits and hyperactivity in kids. * Study could not pinpoint which additives were responsible, because they were mixed together. * Chemicals tested included artificial food colors and a common preservative. exacerbated by food additives. While it is widely held, the belief that food additives promote attention-hyperactivity deficits in children is scientifically controversial. As the authors of two recent evidence reviews said: * "... to date, there is little empirical evidence supporting the effectiveness of dietary restrictions in treating ... attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)." (Cormier E, Elder JH 2007) * "... a critical review of the literature provides very limited support for such a relationship [between food additives and ADHD]." (Cruz NV, Bahna SL 2006) But the results of a very credible new clinical trial lend weight to parents' concerns about synthetic chemicals in foods. New results find fault with common additives Scientists at University of Southampton in England conducted a well- designed clinical trial - randomized, double-blind, placebo- controlled, crossover - intended to test whether intake of artificial food color and additives (AFCA) would affect children's behavior. They enrolled 153 three-year-olds and 144 children aged eight to nine years of age, separated them into three groups, and gave each group a different drink: * Test Drink A with sodium benzoate (preservative) and artificial food color mix A. * Test Drink B with sodium benzoate (preservative) and artificial food color mix B. * Placebo drink free of artificial additives and preservatives. Each group consumed their beverage daily for six weeks. The researchers estimated that the test drink groups ingested artificial additives and preservatives in daily amounts roughly equal to those found in two standard candy bars. In addition to a computer test, the children were evaluated by parents and/or teachers who were unaware of which drinks the children had consumed. The researchers found that children of all ages who consumed Test Drink A were significantly more hyperactive and that they had shorter attention spans, compared with the placebo drink groups. No behavior differences were found between the placebo group and Test Drink B group. The authors came to this conclusion: "Artificial colors or a sodium benzoate preservative (or both) in the diet result in increased hyperactivity in 3-year-old and 8/9-year-old children ..." Since all the children received a mix of additives, the authors could not say which of the additives caused problems, but they plan to conduct further trials to pinpoint the problematic compounds. Sources * McCann D, Barrett A, Cooper A, Crumpler D, Dalen L, Grimshaw K, Kitchin E, Lok K, Porteous L, Prince E, Sonuga-Barke E, Warner JO, Stevenson J. Food additives and hyperactive behaviour in 3-year-old and 8/9-year-old children in the community: a randomised, double- blinded, placebo-controlled trial. Lancet. 2007 Sep 5; [Epub ahead of print] * Cormier E, Elder JH. Diet and child behavior problems: fact or fiction? Pediatr Nurs. 2007 Mar-Apr;33(2):138-43. Review. * Cruz NV, Bahna SL. Do food or additives cause behavior disorders? Pediatr Ann. 2006 Oct;35(10):744-5, 748-54. Review. [PRINTER FRIENDLY VERSION] > > Simply put (just for you) it means that those morons who claim that > > "Big Pharma" has crfeated the AD/HD "epidemic" had nothing to do with > > it! IN fact it suggests that there is no true epidemic. > > But it often, perhaps usually, is not a disease, but a reaction to the > environment. (see article below) See hisatory of hundreds, if not thousands, of studies saying just the opposite. In fact, if you knew how to properly diagnosed AD/HD, you would know that it is NOT a reaction to anything. And of course Big Pharma markets > diseases as well as medicines. When I see "BigPharma" I know I am talking to a moron. My doctor suggested that I cut down the number of morons I sepak to, so, bye.... On Jan 27, 3:36 pm, Sammybaby <roastfreest...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On 27 Jan, 17:18, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > But it often, perhaps usually, is not a disease, but a reaction to the > environment. (see article below) See hisatory [sic] of hundreds, if not thousands, of studies saying just the opposite. In fact, if you knew how to properly diagnosed AD/HD, you would know that it is NOT a reaction to anything. And of course Big Pharma markets > diseases as well as medicines. When I see "BigPharma" I know I am talking to a moron. My doctor suggested that I cut down the number of morons I sepak [sic] to, so, bye.... |
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