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Coleah - 23 Jan 2008 10:07 GMT
If you belong to any Yahoo Groups this is important...

Yahoo is now using something called "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo Group
users

around the net and see what you're doing and where you are going
(similar to
cookies.)
Yahoo is recording every website and every group you visit.
Take a look at their updated privacy statement:

1. http://privacy. <http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy> yahoo.com/
privacy

2. About half-way down the page, in the section on Cookies, you will
see a link that says Web Beacons. Click on the phrase "Web Beacons".

3. That will bring you to a paragraph entitled "Outside the Yahoo
Network."
In this section you'll see a little "click here to opt out" link
which will let you "opt-out" of their new method of snooping.

4. Once you have clicked that link, you are exempted.
[Notice the "Success" message on the top of the next page.
Be careful because on that page there is also a
"Cancel Opt-out" button which, if clicked, will *undo* the opt-out.

Feel free to forward this to others and groups.

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Debbee - 23 Jan 2008 13:08 GMT
> If you belong to any Yahoo Groups this is important...
>
> Yahoo is now using something called "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo Group
> users

Thanks for the heads up, Coleah!!  You also have to go into Marketing
Preferences
and opt out of those too--otherwise you get a ton of spam marketing
stuff that you
know you didn't send for!

How's the Honey doing on your boo boo?   Great I hope!
Coleah - 23 Jan 2008 18:41 GMT
> On Jan 23, 2:07 am, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:> If you belong to any Yahoo Groups this is important...
>
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>
> How's the Honey doing on your boo boo?   Great I hope!
--------------------------------------
Thanks for the hint, I went into the Marketing Preferences and saw
that it was already setup to block emails and "pesterings".  It might
be that the first function resets the marketing one.  I'll pass this
along for others to check also.

My boo boo was soothed with the honey, but didn't heal it.  Thanks for
asking.  Researching this Dyshidrosis skin condition more, it looks as
though a toxic buildup of Nickel is at the root of it.  I found a
support group that brings forth humor from our mutual misery.
Comparing photos with others, most people have this stuff in small
patches.  Of course mine covers both hands which now feel like giant
burning, weeping lobster claws encrusted with flaky, peeling
barnacles.

Oddly enough, I tried a hint about spraying my hands with Windex and
found it does cool the pain and sooths the skin even better than the
honey (and is less messy).  At the very least I figure the Windex that
is absorbed will help me sing 'I can see clearly now' <g>!!
Debbee - 24 Jan 2008 02:14 GMT
> My boo boo was soothed with the honey, but didn't heal it.  Thanks for
> asking.  Researching this Dyshidrosis skin condition more, it looks as
> though a toxic buildup of Nickel is at the root of it.  

Where did you get your nickel toxicity from?  Is this connected with
the
breast implants, or from jewelry, or do you know?

I had heavy metal toxicity; still have a couple  more metals to get
rid of. I'm
taking part in research, and I've gotten rid of all of the metals
except for
copper and mercury, which I will do this Spring.  Getting the aluminum
out was the worst,
and I was so sick during the process.  This isn't chelation, and it is
very safe.  I cannot
wait to lose the copper and mercury, but do to the nature of the
research, you just cannot
go and do everything all at once.  My conventional doctor heard about
it, and said to "go for it,"
as I was too chicken to do chelation.

> Oddly enough, I tried a hint about spraying my hands with Windex and
> found it does cool the pain and sooths the skin even better than the
> honey (and is less messy).  At the very least I figure the Windex that
> is absorbed will help me sing 'I can see clearly now' <g>!!

Does Tea Tree oil help at all in getting rid of the pain?  Or Aloe
Vera?

After I saw the word "Windex," I knew what was coming!!  Thanks for
the laugh!!
rpautrey2 - 24 Jan 2008 02:19 GMT
Sterling Silver/Nickel Silver?

Paul

> Where did you get your nickel toxicity from?  Is this connected with
> the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> rid of. I'm
> taking part in research, and
Coleah - 24 Jan 2008 03:30 GMT
> > My boo boo was soothed with the honey, but didn't heal it.  Thanks for
> > asking.  Researching this Dyshidrosis skin condition more, it looks as
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> it, and said to "go for it,"
> as I was too chicken to do chelation.

When my implant ruptured I immediately broke out from my watch and
earrings, so I wouldn't doubt that some metal was the cause.  I've
been reading about heavy metal detoxing methods to see what might work
for me.  I want to run ideas by my conventional doctor, in case there
might be some contradiction with the medication I regularly take.

I take Vicodin daily, but the dosage doesn't stop the constant burning
and stinging.  My house looks like a drug store with all the lotions,
potions, ointments and creams.  I'm practicing patience and trying
many things.

> > Oddly enough, I tried a hint about spraying my hands with Windex and
> > found it does cool the pain and sooths the skin even better than the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> After I saw the word "Windex," I knew what was coming!!  Thanks for
> the laugh!!
Debbee - 24 Jan 2008 04:58 GMT
> When my implant ruptured I immediately broke out from my watch and
> earrings, so I wouldn't doubt that some metal was the cause.  I've
> been reading about heavy metal detoxing methods to see what might work
> for me.  I want to run ideas by my conventional doctor, in case there
> might be some contradiction with the medication I regularly take.

Sounds like you have a pretty open minded conventional doctor like I
have,
even in a "big system," more and more doctors are taking classes in
alternatives,
and one stopped me in the hallway the other day, and asked me what I
knew about
"compression massage."  I told him, the title is misleading,
"compression" yes, massage definitely not!
I told him to talk to one of in-house massage therapists, and have
them try it on him so he could experience
the joy of it all!

> I take Vicodin daily, but the dosage doesn't stop the constant burning
> and stinging.  My house looks like a drug store with all the lotions,
> potions, ointments and creams.  I'm practicing patience and trying
> many things.

Does vinegar help at all?  I worked one summer with my boyfriend at
the
time in the tile contracting business, and would get concrete/cement/
grout  on my hands that
would burn like a sob, and he would pour vinegar over my hands, and it
would
stop the stinging and burning.   Just a thought---it works for
sunburns--know
that from living in P'cola, Florida and getting my first really bad
sunburn years
ago; Navy doctors prescribed vinegar baths.  That worked.  Ofcourse,
when Klaussen's
Dill Pickle Company called me to interview me....I knew I was in a
real pickle!!
For some reason, the organic apple cider vinegar always seemed to work
the best.
Coleah - 24 Jan 2008 08:42 GMT
> > When my implant ruptured I immediately broke out from my watch and
> > earrings, so I wouldn't doubt that some metal was the cause.  I've
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> For some reason, the organic apple cider vinegar always seemed to work
> the best.

Yes, my doctor (she's a Nurse Practioner actually) at the VA is
wonderful.  Because of the medications I take, she also makes sure
that the supplements I'd like to take won't cause some uproar.  She
has suggested some supplements as well.

Since my implant initial rupture 20 yrs ago and removal 15 yrs ago,
I've presented to a multitiude of doctors with unusual and baffling
maladies.  Besides the high blood pressure, cholesterol, etc., I have
noticed that childhood episodes with lung, kidney and skin problems
have really flaring in the past 11 yrs.

Other folks with this condition have recommended vinegar and hydrogen
proxide soaks also, but that's when it first flares and before the
bumps fill with fluid and split the skin.  After that, creams and
lotions are more soothing.  This stuff shows up only on the hands and
feet.  My heart breaks for the ones who have it on their feet too who
have problems walking.

Interesting that you mentioned working with tile/concrete.  From
reading, that is supposed to be a great source of toxic Nickel
exposure.  It sounds like you have had a well rounded life and learned
many skills too.  Glad you didn't work in the pickle factory <g>.
Debbee - 24 Jan 2008 14:56 GMT
>  My heart breaks for the ones who have it on their feet too who
> have problems walking.

Just like those with copper toxicity.  As I understand it from my
conventional
doctors, copper mimics estrogen in the body, too much copper does a
variety
of damage -- after I "got the lead out"  I felt much better, using
oral DMSA chelation
prescribed by a conventional doctor.   Now I am anxious to get the
rest of the gunk out!!

I understand that people that have heavy metal (Nickel is a real bad
boy), problems,
a lot have skin problems on their feet, and hands.  I have some
problems from copper;
but not like if I eat cheese or drink milk---then my hands and feet
peel.  I am not lactose
intolerant; I have a milk allergy.  I was never a huge milk fan, even
as a kid; except Buttermilk,
so giving up milk was not something that bothered me, because I drank
so very little of it
anyways.  And for some silly reason, ice cream does not bother me like
milk, or cheese do.
I understand that heavy metals toxicity also plays havoc with
infections, and many people
get boils on their body.

> Interesting that you mentioned working with tile/concrete.  From
> reading, that is supposed to be a great source of toxic Nickel
> exposure.  It sounds like you have had a well rounded life and learned
> many skills too.  Glad you didn't work in the pickle factory <g>.

I did it off and on for a summer when he got jobs that were too big
for
himself and his helper--not that I really wanted to do it, but that's
what you
do for your friends--when they need help.  My heavy metal exposures
came from working in a machine shop without proper ventiliation---no
one
knew that it was not safe --between the chemicals and dust from the
metals,
it was a real toxic environment.  The employer was really dishonest,
he had
two sets of MSDS sheets, one he let the employees read, and one he
kept
on file.  A typical shop where most of the guys had a pitcher after
work, and
smoked.  You couldn't be around either of those with several of the
chemicals
within a 72 hour period--that was the part he cut off.    I only
suspected the
chemicals after DOW Chemical sent me the real MSDS, and compared it to
the copy I had received--and noticed the "chop job," and remembering
how
I would have one glass of wine with dinner on occasion, and be out of
my mind drunk.  And
ofcourse in those days I smoked, as did the guys that worked in the
shop.  There
were always people getting flu like symptoms that refused to go away;
and guys
would tell me that it would take one beer and they would get so rip
roaring drunk,
that they couldn't understand  how which such a little amount of
booze.    I worked
in the office, but ofcourse, chemicals aren't smart enough to know how
to stop outside of the office
door, and my office door was often open.  How sad for the employer who
took "cheapness" over
"safety," of their employees.  The truth of the matter is that I
understand that the owner is now
very ill himself.  I emailed him a number of years ago and told him
that I forgave him, so that he didn't have guilt
riding over him the rest of this life.  I'm just blessed that I got
out of there when I did.
Coleah - 24 Jan 2008 16:35 GMT
> >  My heart breaks for the ones who have it on their feet too who
> > have problems walking.
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> riding over him the rest of this life.  I'm just blessed that I got
> out of there when I did.

You have had your share of misery and it's good that you are feeling
better from your heavy metal detox thus far.  That is encouraging!

About the time I was explanted, I was working at Hewlett Packard with
inkjet printers.  We bounced from lab to lab and ended up in a large
section of a building that didn't have proper ventilation.  They were
always working on it, but the whole thing was constructed for offices,
not an area that had to push the volume of printer ink fumes out.  We
had a huge number of printers running automated tests 24/7 in the
lab.  I really started feeling sick while working there.  I didn't
drink and quit smoking when my lungs started kicking up a storm.
Chronic fatique, Sjogrens and a Xerostoma condition that caused me to
lose all but six of my beautiful teeth.  I was one sick puppy.  When I
left and went to work with Intel I started feeling better slowly after
an asthma attack put me in the hospital for 4 days.

Now that I'm retired and have my own place where I can control my
breathing environment better, I'm getting all this skin stuff.  Go
figure!  My other half lives in another house on the property where he
can burn his wood stove to his hearts content.  The 3rd house gets a
nice cross breeze in the summer, so I'm content to live quietly out
here in the boondocks, surrounded by fresh air and trees.  If only I
wasn't scratching myself raw too ! .....
Debbee - 25 Jan 2008 08:05 GMT
> You have had your share of misery and it's good that you are feeling
> better from your heavy metal detox thus far.  That is encouraging!

Do you eat cilantro?  Do you know about it being a natural heavy metal
detoxifer?

> About the time I was explanted, I was working at Hewlett Packard with
> inkjet printers.  We bounced from lab to lab and ended up in a large
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> left and went to work with Intel I started feeling better slowly after
> an asthma attack put me in the hospital for 4 days.

 Yikes!!  That's horrible.

> Now that I'm retired and have my own place where I can control my
> breathing environment better, I'm getting all this skin stuff.  Go
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> here in the boondocks, surrounded by fresh air and trees.  If only I
> wasn't scratching myself raw too ! .....

Does Benadryl do anything for you, to stop the itchies?
Out in the Boondocks?   Do you not mean, "Down in the Boondocks?"
<smile>
Coleah - 25 Jan 2008 16:02 GMT
> > You have had your share of misery and it's good that you are feeling
> > better from your heavy metal detox thus far.  That is encouraging!
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Out in the Boondocks?   Do you not mean, "Down in the Boondocks?"
> <smile>

Cilantro.  I will look into that.  Thank you.  I'm going to stop
taking the Beta Carotene and Selinium supplements, as I just read that
they may be causing the skin problems I'm having.  I'm so hoping that
I just hit on a "Bingo" that will help improve this.    I think it's
time for a reevaluation of all the medications and supplements I'm
taking.

I have Benadryl, but hestitate to use it with all the other stuff.  I
did get some Hydrocortisone cream w/Aloe (thanks for suggesting the
Aloe) that seems to be having a little better effect.

Nothing lasts forever and is bound to change one way or another with
time.  I appreciate your good humor and caring ideas.  When my brother
feels stressed about some health issue, I remind him that we are like
the 57' Chevy convertible we enjoyed years ago.....just older....with
a leaky gas tank, low on antifreeze, thinner  hoses and in need of
cleaning our spark plugs....not to mention the worn tires and that
backfiring muffler <g>.  We're still 'rolling', and that is the
important thing.
Debbee - 25 Jan 2008 16:23 GMT
> Cilantro.  I will look into that.  Thank you.  I'm going to stop
> taking the Beta Carotene and Selinium supplements, as I just read that
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> backfiring muffler <g>.  We're still 'rolling', and that is the
> important thing.

You might even ask your doctor about an old time remedy, I think it is
called "Blue Star" (might not be the right blue named product), people
with
skin problems use that or like that stinky coal tar lotions.  (nasty
smell!).
If the later works, you could be, "Working in a Coal Mine..."

Yep...we are all looking for the fountain of youth....and who knows
with the
discoveries they are making, in alternative and conventional medicine
maybe someone will find it!

I'm heading to the research project in a couple of months -- I will
see if they
are taking any more "victims," of metal toxicity--if so, I'll let you
know.
The non-invasive approach makes a lot of sense-it came in without an
IV,
and it needs to leave without an IV!!   And that ofcourse, would
be,.....
Poison IV!!  <smile>

You will find that you get well quicker when you let your humor guide
you
down the path.   And remember this is just a tiny little road bump in
your
journey of life.  I don't know who coined this phrase, but it's a good
one
to think about, "If God leads you to it, God will get you through
it."  And
there is no doubt in my mind  that you will get through it.
 
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