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Mark Probert - You are avoiding the question... still.

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jurimed2@yahoo.com - 22 Jan 2008 17:36 GMT
Mark Probert:

Do you have PERSONAL reason why you don't want this group discussing
the AAPS v. Texas Medical Board (TMB) case?

Like maybe you, and your company, and/or your clients, were involved
in the TMB actions against some of the Texas doctors in some way?

The six complaints against Bill Rae MD, we know, came anonymously,
from New York - and you are one of the suspects.

Discovery will tell...

Curious in California:..

Tim Bolen
Mark Probert - 23 Jan 2008 13:14 GMT
> Mark Probert:
>
> Do you have PERSONAL reason why you don't want this group discussing
> the AAPS v. Texas Medical Board (TMB) case?

Timmie, get your head out of your a.s and start reading.

> Like maybe you, and your company, and/or your clients, were involved
> in the TMB actions against some of the Texas doctors in some way?
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>
> Discovery will tell...

If anyone discovers your brain, I will nominate them for a Nobel.
Jan Drew - 24 Jan 2008 05:40 GMT
>> Mark Probert:
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> If anyone discovers your brain, I will nominate them for a Nobel.

I wonder just where in this thread one is suppose to find the answer to
Tim's questions from you?

Here is the summary of your comments...

Lik eI have told you a hundred times, moron, I do want it discussed.

Discuss away.

Say what you want.

Unlike altie idiots like you, I am pro-free speech.

Laughing at you from all over the place.

MP

Anti-free speech altie idiots do things like contact ISPs, mail
providers, spouses, employers, use veiled threats, etc. in an effort to
intimidate those with whom they disagree into silence.

The more vociferous an EBM advocate is, the more likely they are to be a
target of this anti-social behavior.

Only in your deluded, paranoid "mind".

Screw you, a.shole.

I have told you repeatedly that I do not deal with health insurance.

You are a moron.

I left out that they also post personal information, home and business
addresses, etc.

WRONG. I correctly pointed out that it was your intent to try to chill
my free speech. It obviously did not work, since I, unlike you, Timmie,
et ilk, believe in the Free Marketplace of Ideas as espoused by Oliver
Wendell Homles.

Of course it does.

Like I said, I do not play Bolen Bullshit Games.

Go screw yourself

Calling Timmie Lassie is insulting to Lassie, and if you do it again, I
will report you to PETA for animal insulting.

No, I said anyone who wants to discuss it can do so, since I do not
care. I will not be drawn into any discussion involving the BolenAsshole.

That would compound the bad behavior.

Yes, because he has done it.

Nope. Bolen does it, he gets it. I do not do it, but I get it.

It was meant to be funny. Re-read it.

Bolen is posing that he has some form of connection to the case.

I get complaints all the time. One this week. The complainant said I was
rude, aggressive, etc.

Of course, when I unmasked his massive workers comp premium fraud,
including paying undocumented aliens off the books, he had very little
else to defend himself with.

One does not have to know who made the complaint to defend themselves,
if defense is even warranted. In this case, the anonymous whine is being
used as a diversion from examining what the doctor was doing. This is
pure Bolen 101.

Defend on the facts. If the complaint is false, the person should be
able to prove it.

Agreed, and many systems punish retaliators. However, the fear of
retaliation makes people want anonymity.

With Bolen it does. He and his attorney think nothing of filing suit in
a manner called abuse of process.

I do not believe that you went through the archives. To do that, you
would have to have the addresses to start with.

Screw you Timmie.

I don't play your a.shole game.

I have a theory that Hulda fired him.

By Jove, Debbee hits a grand slam.

Timmie would not understand it, because Timmie never held a job. Having
a job is a prerequisite for WC coverage.

That is hard to believe. OSHA does a great investigation, but, when it
comes to fines with teeth...well they need some amalgams. Two years ago
we found that an employer policy was the immediate proximate cause of
the death of a worker. OSHA fined them $10K with their $200M annual
sales. Pain free.

My client, OTOH, upgraded their risk factor by doubling it. That doubled
their highest risk, and largest payroll segment, premium assessment.

That was a serious ouch, and they changed their evil ways.

For his refusal to turn over

MSDS are available on line. But he does have to provide you a copy from
the manufacturer when you ask politely.

I even fired my own attorney, after learning he had gone

Debbee, the WC system is a closed one, with everyone knowing each other.
One of my boating buddies is a claimant's attorney, while his brother is
a carrier guy. Some firms do both sides.

You want to give me, how much $$$$????

Everyone knows everyone else.

No I am not, Idiot.

As Debbee correctly pointed out, I don't do health insurance.

Are you trying to feebly imply that you are somehow involved in the law
suit? If so, state YOUR business.

Otherwise, drop dead.

The part where he uses this bullshit tactic of poisoning the well to
discredit those who call him as we see him.

For the most part, a WC carrier in NY denies a medical bill and it goes
to arbitration. If the ruling is that it is to be paid, then they pay
it. If they rule that it does not get paid, the medical provider eats it.

Those neighbors who are affected are getting medical care they need.

I have seen only one claim denied and that was reversed on appeal.

That's Texas rules, which I am not familiar with. The ones I know of in
NY are all being paid.

Unless GB gets to cut off the special funding.

I would not know. There are a myriad of reasons, and each claim can have
a different one.

My original comments, which you snipped, were not specific to me.

However, one of the addresses you refer to is a private residence.

I could show it to you on a government website, through email only.

The address I referenced is purely a residence.

We are discussing the propriety of posting addresses.

That personal address belongs to a person who is not a part of this group.

I am discussing posting addresses.

I do not like the practice, personal or business. The intent is to
intimidate.

Timmie, I am getting seriously worried about you. Your head is so far up
your a.s that you cannot seem to read my responses to you. How do you
hold your breath for so long? Or, do you like it up there?

Even Debbee noted that I do not deal in health insurance. Period.

Yes, when your brain is finally discovered by a proctologist, people
will tell you what you have been missing.

Nope. The bills must be generated by the provider. If a doctor fills in
the wrong codes, it is the doctors responsibility to bill it right.

In a WC claim, in NY, the medical provider must be authorized by the
Workers Compensation Board to provide claim related treatment and they
must bill the carrier directly, assuming that the care is provided in
New York.

If he wants to provide quality service to his patients, he should follow
those guidelines.

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Oh, and btw.  This is interesting.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/b9b6e084f696f541

I do not post email unless I have permission of the writer, or the email
is inherently abusive.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/99aa71908fc1c759

You have it backwards. If you received that email, then I feel that the
writer was sufficiently abusive to no longer expect that the email was
private, and you can post it freely.
jurimed2@yahoo.com - 24 Jan 2008 07:02 GMT
> > jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> Mark Probert:
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Jan:

At least Mark is not repetitious in his obfuscation, but he is
consistent in his failure to resond to an easy, direct, question.

Gotta wonder why...

Amused, but insistent, in California...

Tim Bolen
rpautrey2 - 24 Jan 2008 07:09 GMT
I wish I was amused in CA. It won't be long. Paul

On Jan 24, 1:02 am, jurim...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Amused  in California.
> Tim Bolen
 
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