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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / January 2008NUTRACEUTICALS AND CANCER MANAGEMENT
The use of complementary and alternative medicine (CAM) is increasing rapidly in developed countries, which is already in use as traditional medicines in various Asian countries. The Indian system of medicine, named as Ayurveda has an edge in this field. Many plant products are in use as herbal medicine, as food supplement or as spices, in every day cooking. Some of them have been well studied in various experimental models of cancer, both in vivo and in vitro models. They have shown significant inhibition of cell proliferation. Some of them are in the phase of clinical trial or already available as food supplement. http://www.bioscience.org/u37153137/gaDTRQo7632rgysaGWQYT64356/2005/v10/af/1644/ 1644.pdf > The use of complementary and alternative > medicine (CAM) is increasing rapidly in developed [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://www.bioscience.org/u37153137/gaDTRQo7632rgysaGWQYT64356/2005/v... Its a lot easier to stay healthy than to try and cure the disease. An apple a day keeps the doctor away. Some of the well studied phytochemicals in relation to tumor prevention includes curcumin (turmeric) (18), capsaicin (green chilies) (19), epigallocatechin gallate (green tea) (20), gingerol (ginger) (21), genistein (soya beans) (22), resveratrol (grapes) (23), caffeic acid phenyl ester (propolis from honey bee) (24), sulforaphane (25) (cruciferous vegetables) (26) , silibinin (27), St. John's wort (28), indole-3-carbinol (cabbage) (29), tangeretin (citrus species) (30), apigenin (tea, cabbage, garlic) (31), allicin (garlic) (32), lycopene (tomatoes) (33), emodin (aloes) (34), diallyl sulfide (garlic) (35), quercitin (rhododendron cinnabarium) (36), anethole (fennel, camphor) (37), ß-carotene (38). http://www.bioscience.org/u37153137/gaDTRQo7632rgysaGWQYT64356/2005/v10/af/1644/ 1644.pdf > The use of complementary and alternative > medicine (CAM) is increasing rapidly in developed [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://www.bioscience.org/u37153137/gaDTRQo7632rgysaGWQYT64356/2005/v... How much money would Pharma lose if there were no more cancers? > How much money would Pharma lose if there were no more cancers? Relatively little. Chemotherapeutic agents are relatively cheap and low-volume. Compared to blockbusters like Viagra and Rogaine they're down in the noise. | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. | | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ > > How much money would Pharma lose if there were no more cancers? > > Relatively little. SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE" Now the impact is obvious. Most of the newest treatments are taken along with older chemotherapies, and some are even taken in combination with one another, adding pricey drug on top of pricey drug. Dr. Leonard Saltz of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York says that 10 years ago the drugs used to treat colon cancer cost about $500. Today, the tab is $250,000. Over the same 10-year period, the average life expectancy for colon cancer patients increased from 11 months to a little more than two years. "We're excited about these drugs," he says, "but not everyone can get them. Something has to give." Avastin is far from the only cancer drug raising such concerns. ImClone Systems Inc.'s (IMCL ) Erbitux costs $30,000 for eight weeks of treatment. Gleevec, a Novartis (NVS ) drug, costs $2,200 a month and can be taken indefinitely. Herceptin, a Genentech drug for breast cancer, runs $3,200 a month. And antinausea drugs to relieve side effects can cost $100 a pill. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_05/b3969051.htm Do I even need to leave a comment? > In message <2ca634e3-2338-4dab-8ea3-e52341a28...@m34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Kevysmom wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but trywww.santaclaus.com. | > +--------------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ >> > How much money would Pharma lose if there were no more cancers? >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Do I even need to leave a comment? That depends. Are you trying to disagree with my point that oncology drugs represent a minor share of pharmaceutical company revenues or are you changing the subject? It only took a few minutes to find out, for instance, how much Pfizer's total revenues were in 2004 and how much of that was from their oncology portfolio. Are you changing the subject now or do you want to continue with the one you originally brought up? | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. | | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ >> The use of complementary and alternative >> medicine (CAM) is increasing rapidly in developed [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >How much money would Pharma lose if there were no more cancers? I've been cured of cancer twice. In neither case was there any profit for a pharmaceutical company beyond that made from anesthetics, rubber gloves, antiseptics, disposable scalpel blades and sutures. I suspect that Mercedes Benz made much more profit than any pharma outfit. In fact, the last dental procedure I had would have been just as profitable for pharma as it also required an anesthetic, some gloves and some disposable equipment, plus x-rays. If there were no more cancers the drug companies would just keep on making the things which generate profit.  SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > I've been cured of cancer twice. In neither case was there any profit > for a pharmaceutical company So you used Alternative treatments! Im very impressed Peter! > >> The use of complementary and alternative > >> medicine (CAM) is increasing rapidly in developed [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > - Show quoted text - (Quoting Peter Bowditch) >> I've been cured of cancer twice. In neither case was there any profit >> for a pharmaceutical company > > So you used Alternative treatments! Im very impressed Peter! If you define a scalpel as "alternative," then yes. A little basal cell carcinoma here, some squamous cell carcinoma there, some of this and some of that. Peter has led a more sheltered life than I have or he'd have a larger count to report. | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. | | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ >(Quoting Peter Bowditch) > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >has led a more sheltered life than I have or he'd have >a larger count to report. I've had a few things removed by dermatologists following the precautionary principle. (I used to be a surfer back in the days ...) I didn't include them in the count. The two I mentioned here were both confirmed by biopsy. Melanoma is a very big killer in Australia and can go from spot to funeral quite quickly. I have found that the waiting list at the dermatologist reduces from weeks to hours as soon as I mention my history with the complaint. There are ads appearing on TV here right now warning people of the danger of too much sun. One announcement has annoyed the cosmetics companies a little by telling people that 30+ bulk sunblock from the supermarket works better than the "$10 a teaspoon" supposedly-protective moisturisers pushed by the anti-aging crowd. SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > The two I mentioned here were both confirmed by biopsy. Likewise. The actinic keratoses are something else again. Too many of those to count, including the current healing patches on the arms. On the other hand, they *weren't* removed by scalpel and *weren't* cancerous. > Melanoma is a > very big killer in Australia and can go from spot to funeral quite > quickly. You don't have to tell me that -- I lost an uncle who was also a surfer in the day to melanoma. Which is one reason I do the all down to the alltogether every year for the MD and get a more frequent check in the spots I can't see by someone who will notice changes and has an incentive to not let them go by. > I have found that the waiting list at the dermatologist > reduces from weeks to hours as soon as I mention my history with the > complaint. I would expect so, although for whatever reason mine usually has openings sooner than weeks. Dude sure is quick, though -- he can have a keratosis off of your face and closed while he's still asking the rest of the history. | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. | | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ > >In message <451584c1-b6ad-42e5-8772-551e92588...@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Kevysmom wrote: > >(Quoting Peter Bowditch) [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Australian Skepticshttp://www.skeptics.com.au > To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com Oh you guys are so good! This thread is scientific proof that cancer can be controlled by the use of alternative health-care. Yet you Pharma Shills detract from the message as to hide the truth. Really, you guys would do great as Faux news reporters, You guys can spin so well I imagine Reuters Maggie Fox would get jealous. >> I've been cured of cancer twice. In neither case was there any profit >> for a pharmaceutical company > >So you used Alternative treatments! Im very impressed Peter! No. In both cases I was treated by fully paid-up members of the "cut, burn and poison" brigade who used conventional treatments for the types of cancer I had. Why would I risk my life by using quackery? SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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