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My article on athletes foot has been published -- check it out
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Carole - 19 Jan 2008 10:51 GMT I got an article published on treating athletes foot with cellsalts
Spot the typos at - www.associatedcontent.com/article/548659/treating_athletes_foot_using_cellsa lts.html
Carole www.cellsalts.net
drceephd@insightbb.com - 19 Jan 2008 15:59 GMT > I got an article published on treating athletes foot with cellsalts > > Spot the typos at -www.associatedcontent.com/article/548659/treating_athletes_foot_using... > lts.html > > Carolewww.cellsalts.net Congratulations Carole! Now you can join the ranks of the published whom the pharma shills will condemn and ignore.
DrCee
whrlwnd2@webtv.net - 19 Jan 2008 17:34 GMT From: hubbca@iimetro.com.au (Carole) I got an article published on treating athletes foot with cellsalts Spot the typos at - www.associatedcontent.com/article/548659/treating_athletes_foot_using_cellsa lts.html Carole www.cellsalts.net
Congrats. Mineral defficiency is a far too underlooked subject. Thanks for the info.
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net - 19 Jan 2008 20:13 GMT from reading the site...anyone can publish/write ANYTHING they want
no scientific evidence or peer review involved
hmmm....maybe I can write something about some "cure" I have dreamt up
they will publish ANYTHING
ie....zero validity
>I got an article published on treating athletes foot with cellsalts > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Carole > www.cellsalts.net Debbee - 19 Jan 2008 22:53 GMT On Jan 19, 12:13 pm, <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> from reading the site...anyone can publish/write ANYTHING they want > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > they will publish ANYTHING I think the words "congratulations Carole" are in order. Otherwise you are sounding a little on the jealous side!!
Kevysmom - 20 Jan 2008 01:40 GMT > On Jan 19, 12:13 pm, <Hawk...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > you are sounding > a little on the jealous side!!
:o) Kevysmom - 19 Jan 2008 23:06 GMT Very Cool Carole! I gave you 5 stars! :o)
> I got an article published on treating athletes foot with cellsalts > > Spot the typos at -www.associatedcontent.com/article/548659/treating_athletes_foot_using... > lts.html > > Carolewww.cellsalts.net Peter Moran - 19 Jan 2008 23:25 GMT >I got an article published on treating athletes foot with cellsalts > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Carole > www.cellsalts.net How often do you take the sodium, potassium and calcium? You must make this clear or you will end up killing someone. The amounts needed to produce any material change in the blood levels and thus in the tissues affected by the athlete's foot are actually dangerous. Fortunately for you the kidneys can regulate the sodium and potasium content of the body, and the parathyroid glands very tightly regulate calcium, so taking what you descibe three or four times a say and no more than 1g of extra calcium carbonate a day should be safe (but useless).
PM
drceephd@insightbb.com - 20 Jan 2008 01:08 GMT > >I got an article published on treating athletes foot with cellsalts > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > - Show quoted text - A typical rant by an allopath. Petey the Moron knows not of anything vitalistic or humanistic.
Petey the Moron is one of the more dangerous pharma shills. The others are easily recognised by their insults and obvious stupidity. Petey is like a snake in the grass. His lies are hard to recognize and see by those who do not know propaganda and indoctrination techniques.
Propaganda pill: Take a lie, sprinkle it with a little truth, and people will swallow it. You can be sure Petey the Moron knows all the tricks.
DrCee Not a pharma shill ( I am not here to lie to you or deceive you )
Peter Moran - 20 Jan 2008 08:44 GMT On Jan 19, 6:25 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> "Carole" <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > - Show quoted text - A typical rant by an allopath. Petey the Moron knows not of anything vitalistic or humanistic.
PM Why don't you say something relevant to something sometimes? Carole should modify her piece to make sure that people don't overdo it. Although why people would do this rather than use quite effective treatments that even the old vitalists would have known about such as Whitfield's ointment (if they don't trust even more effective modern fungicides), I don't know.
Incidentally conventional medicine is based upon human rational thought and therefore humanistic. Vitalism wasn't -- it always had religious overtones. Read Hahnnemann for an example of vitalistic thought -- he thought his ideas were revelations from God.
PM
D. C. Sessions - 20 Jan 2008 10:51 GMT > A typical rant by an allopath. Petey the Moron knows not of anything > vitalistic or humanistic. Just to be clear: you're slamming PM for suggesting that there might be a maximum safe dose for sodium, potassium, and calcium?
You could prove him wrong quite easily by ingesting 500g/day of cream of tartar. Put him in his place for good!
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Carole - 20 Jan 2008 12:01 GMT > In message <4f25572b-3edd-495d-9643-6608a4c0b870@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, drceephd@insightbb.com wrote:
> > A typical rant by an allopath. Petey the Moron knows not of anything > > vitalistic or humanistic. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You could prove him wrong quite easily by ingesting 500g/day > of cream of tartar. Put him in his place for good! We all know there are maximum safe doses for nutritional products. What we don't always know, is where people's loyalties lie and who they are working for. The picture is becoming clearer though.
Carole www.cellsalts.net
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> -- > | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | > | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. | > | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | > +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ D. C. Sessions - 20 Jan 2008 16:30 GMT > We all know there are maximum safe doses for nutritional products. So what was wrong with the quite polite suggestion that you mention those limits in your published piece? Did that deserve a totally out of context personal attack?
Perhaps more interesting, would you care to speculate on why there haven't been any posts denouncing that completely uncalled-for attack?
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Carole - 22 Jan 2008 16:47 GMT > > We all know there are maximum safe doses for nutritional products. > > So what was wrong with the quite polite suggestion that you mention > those limits in your published piece? Did that deserve a totally > out of context personal attack? Do you mind not cutting out so much of the paras, so I know what you're replying to.
My advice to you and PM is to go and re-read the article.
Carole www.cellsalts.net
> Perhaps more interesting, would you care to speculate on why there > haven't been any posts denouncing that completely uncalled-for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | > +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ D. C. Sessions - 22 Jan 2008 21:28 GMT > Do you mind not cutting out so much of the paras, so I know what you're > replying to. Well, you could always track up the thread history. In which case you'd find out that the major snippage was Cee's.
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Jan Drew - 24 Jan 2008 23:42 GMT "D. C. Sessions" <dcs@lymbercartel.com>
Plonk!
Carole - 20 Jan 2008 09:44 GMT > >I got an article published on treating athletes foot with cellsalts > > > > Spot the typos at - www.associatedcontent.com/article/548659/treating_athletes_foot_using_cellsa
> > lts.html > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > descibe three or four times a say and no more than 1g of extra calcium > carbonate a day should be safe (but useless). You just don't give up, do you? Did you know that bicarb and cream of tartar are ingredients in self raising flour?
Carole www.cellsalts.net
> PM Peter Moran - 20 Jan 2008 23:13 GMT >> >I got an article published on treating athletes foot with cellsalts >> > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Carole So what? Eating cake is safe because no one can eat it all day. Patients may use your treatment too frequently especially if they realised that their normal diet may contain *two whole teaspoons* of sodium chloride and over a teaspoon of various potassium salts per day. They may know enough physiology to realise that it would take very large doses to alter blood levels significantly, but not enough to realise the risks.
You may mistrust all that "doctor science" stuff, but once you set yourself up as a medical adviser you are duty bound to know things bearing upon the safety of your advice.
You must warn people not to use too much.
PM
> www.cellsalts.net > >> PM Carole - 22 Jan 2008 16:50 GMT > So what? Eating cake is safe because no one can eat it all day. Patients > may use your treatment too frequently especially if they realised that [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > You must warn people not to use too much. And I didn't say anything about sodium chloride, it was bicarb. And I did give a caution.
Carole www.cellsalts.net
Richard Schultz - 22 Jan 2008 01:19 GMT : How often do you take the sodium, potassium and calcium? You must make : this clear or you will end up killing someone. The amounts needed to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : descibe three or four times a say and no more than 1g of extra calcium : carbonate a day should be safe (but useless). I'm still waiting for her to figure out that her treatment directly contradicts the principles of the theory on which it is claimed to be based.
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D. C. Sessions - 22 Jan 2008 11:35 GMT > I'm still waiting for her to figure out that her treatment directly > contradicts the principles of the theory on which it is claimed to > be based. Wouldn't that require at least some sort of consistency check?
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Carole - 22 Jan 2008 16:56 GMT > > I'm still waiting for her to figure out that her treatment directly > > contradicts the principles of the theory on which it is claimed to > > be based. > > Wouldn't that require at least some sort of consistency check? Is that the same as the increasingly re-iterative checks, where the complexity of the wordspeak disappears up a duck's arse.
Carole www.cellsalts.net
D. C. Sessions - 22 Jan 2008 17:19 GMT >> > I'm still waiting for her to figure out that her treatment directly >> > contradicts the principles of the theory on which it is claimed to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Is that the same as the increasingly re-iterative checks, where the > complexity of the wordspeak disappears up a duck's arse. That's a rather eloquent, if indirect, confirmation.
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Debbee - 23 Jan 2008 00:28 GMT > Is that the same as the increasingly re-iterative checks, where the > complexity of the wordspeak disappears up a duck's arse. Carole:
Just ignore the babble--they are not worth exercising your fingers in trying to answer. I do not think any of them are dealing with a full deck. They have "the script," they know that they are supposed to type--and that's all they know...
I'm happy for you having your article published....good for you...maybe one of these days they will get it about cell salts!!
Carole - 23 Jan 2008 10:05 GMT On Jan 22, 8:56 am, "Carole" <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote:
> Is that the same as the increasingly re-iterative checks, where the > complexity of the wordspeak disappears up a duck's arse. Carole:
Just ignore the babble--they are not worth exercising your fingers in trying to answer. I do not think any of them are dealing with a full deck. They have "the script," they know that they are supposed to type--and that's all they know...
CH > Thanks deb. You mean they have this little script when they get the job, which goes like this. "There is a lot of people on the alt ng who propose various ineffective treatments which can be dangerous to the general public. Your job is to point out the official medical position and point out that these alt remedies can be dangerous and people need to see a doc if they have a health issue."
CH> So these guys think they are protecting the public, but in reality they are helping prop up the corrupt pharm cartel's business with disease.
I'm happy for you having your article published....good for you...maybe one of these days they will get it about cell salts!!
CH> Right.
Carole www.cellsalts.net
Mark Probert - 23 Jan 2008 13:02 GMT >> Is that the same as the increasingly re-iterative checks, where the >> complexity of the wordspeak disappears up a duck's arse. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > in trying to answer. I do not think any of them are dealing with a > full deck. Most assuredly we are. Sadly, you are not.
> They have "the script," they know that they are supposed to type--and > that's > all they know... Who wrote that script?
> I'm happy for you having your article published....good for > you...maybe one of these > days they will get it about cell salts!! D. C. Sessions - 23 Jan 2008 15:13 GMT >> They have "the script," they know that they are supposed to type--and >> that's >> all they know... > > Who wrote that script? Pay attention, Probert! Carole already told you, it's the Illuminati.
Suckers are always late payers, too. This month's check still hasn't shown up and I've got bills from Evil Organized Medicine to pay.
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Debbee - 23 Jan 2008 15:59 GMT > Suckers are always late payers, too. This month's check still > hasn't shown up and I've got bills from Evil Organized Medicine > to pay. You remind me of a Tootsie Roll Pop---you keep on licking and the substance in the middle tastes funny.
Richard Schultz - 23 Jan 2008 17:19 GMT :> Suckers are always late payers, too. ?This month's check still :> hasn't shown up and I've got bills from Evil Organized Medicine :> to pay.
: You remind me of a Tootsie Roll Pop---you keep on licking and the : substance in the middle tastes funny. You'd better be careful -- Ilena Rosenthal will get mad when she finds that you are continuing to steal her business.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- ". . . for while he was not dumber than an ox, he was not any smarter." -- James Thurber, _My Life and Hard Times_
Jan Drew - 24 Jan 2008 08:29 GMT > In article > <89924d3e-019e-4e6a-a55a-e7fc5205925a@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > You'd better be careful -- Ilena Rosenthal will get mad when she finds > that you are continuing to steal her business. The subject is not IIena Rosenthal. Nor any of the garbage you are so eager to repeat.
> ----- > Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il dumber than an ox
Debbee - 24 Jan 2008 15:54 GMT > : Debbee: You remind me of a Tootsie Roll Pop---you keep on licking and the > : substance in the middle tastes funny. > > You'd better be careful -- Ilena Rosenthal will get mad when she finds > that you are continuing to steal her business. Richard:
You would move it back into a sexual discussion. That was not how it was meant in the first place. I was referencing your apparent lack of substance. Ilena, I apologize for the rudeness of Richard, which was meant as a cheap shot to you...
Richard Schultz - 24 Jan 2008 20:41 GMT :> : Debbee: You remind me of a Tootsie Roll Pop---you keep on licking and the :> : substance in the middle tastes funny.
:> You'd better be careful -- Ilena Rosenthal will get mad when she finds :> that you are continuing to steal her business.
: You would move it back into a sexual discussion. That was not how it : was meant in the first place. This is at least the second time that you have implied that you ply a trade of which (at least according to what I read on the internet) Ilena Rosenthal is a well-known practitioner. If you were as smart as you claim to be, you would be careful not to post such personal details.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
Jan Drew - 24 Jan 2008 23:15 GMT > In article > <3bad1e98-c02e-4c6b-b42e-b634f8a282f2@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Debbee [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > trade of which (at least according to what I read on the internet) Ilena > Rosenthal is a well-known practitioner. So,,,you believe what you read on the internet. Oh, sorry..I forget you believe *selectively*.
If you were as smart as you claim
> to be, you would be careful not to post such personal details. Would you say that applied to Mark Probert?
Note you and he ARE the subject.
> ----- > Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il > Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel > Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University > ----- > "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing." Richard Schultz - 25 Jan 2008 04:17 GMT :> This is at least the second time that you have implied that you ply a :> trade of which (at least according to what I read on the internet) Ilena :> Rosenthal is a well-known practitioner. : : So,,,you believe what you read on the internet. : Oh, sorry..I forget you believe *selectively*. Please put me in your kill file. Thank you.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Apparently, you take me for a complete fool." "Yeah -- more or less." Bob & Ray, "Garish Summit"
The One True Zhen Jue - 25 Jan 2008 16:19 GMT > In article <G_8mj.551$R84....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, Jan Drew <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Please put me in your kill file. Thank you. That is the most envied of all cyberspace real estate. I've been on the waiting list for nearly 8 years, so wait your turn!
> ----- > Richard Schultz schu...@mail.biu.ac.il [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "Yeah -- more or less." > Bob & Ray, "Garish Summit" D. C. Sessions - 25 Jan 2008 17:24 GMT >> Please put me in your kill file. Thank you. > > That is the most envied of all cyberspace real estate. I've been on > the waiting list for nearly 8 years, so wait your turn! I've been there. Frankly, it doesn't seem much different from anywhere else.
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Richard Schultz - 27 Jan 2008 02:34 GMT :>> [To Jan Drew] Please put me in your kill file. ?Thank you.
:> That is the most envied of all cyberspace real estate. I've been on :> the waiting list for nearly 8 years, so wait your turn!
: I've been there. Frankly, it doesn't seem much different from : anywhere else. As Phil Ochs put it, "I'd be an exile now, but everywhere's the same."
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- Look outside the window, there's a woman being grabbed. They've dragged her to the bushes, and now she's being stabbed. Maybe we should call the cops and try to stop the pain. But Monopoly is so much fun, I'd hate to blow the game.
Debbee - 27 Jan 2008 06:53 GMT > ----- > Look outside the window, there's a woman being grabbed. > They've dragged her to the bushes, and now she's being stabbed. > Maybe we should call the cops and try to stop the pain. > But Monopoly is so much fun, I'd hate to blow the game. So are you saying, you are "Outside a Small Circle of Friends?"
Richard Schultz - 27 Jan 2008 15:19 GMT :> Look outside the window, there's a woman being grabbed. :> They've dragged her to the bushes, and now she's being stabbed. :> Maybe we should call the cops and try to stop the pain. :> But Monopoly is so much fun, I'd hate to blow the game. : : So are you saying, you are "Outside a Small Circle of Friends?" No, I am quoting a Phil Ochs song that I happen to like. If you know the song, then you must know that the relevant line is the one *before* the one that gives the song its title. But then, intellectual honesty has never exactly been your strong suit.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "I've lost my harmonica, Albert."
Debbee - 27 Jan 2008 17:40 GMT > In article <4c081874-bb7b-4ba2-80c4-085fa0d2c...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Debbee <Butterflies2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > the one that gives the song its title. But then, intellectual honesty > has never exactly been your strong suit. But Monopoly is so much fun, I'd hate to blow the game. Yes, that is your game.
Richard Schultz - 29 Jan 2008 07:34 GMT :>: So are you saying, you are "Outside a Small Circle of Friends?"
:> No, I am quoting a Phil Ochs song that I happen to like. ?If you know :> the song, then you must know that the relevant line is the one *before* :> the one that gives the song its title. ?But then, intellectual honesty :> has never exactly been your strong suit.
: But Monopoly is so much fun, I'd hate to blow the game. : Yes, that is your game. Are you really that stupid, or are you just pretending to be that stupid?
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
Debbee - 27 Jan 2008 17:45 GMT > No, I am quoting a Phil Ochs song that I happen to like. If you know > the song, then you must know that the relevant line is the one *before* > the one that gives the song its title. But then, intellectual honesty > has never exactly been your strong suit. > > - Here are the lyrics: http://www.ocap.ca/songs/smalcirc.html
Now everyone will know that really do not care about people....that's the difference between you and I.....
Jan Drew - 28 Jan 2008 04:03 GMT >Please put me in your kill file. Thank you. Ahh. Uh huh. Whotsamatter, Dickey baby?
Cannot stand when you are caught?
You can always put me in your kill file.....
Debbee - 28 Jan 2008 06:53 GMT > Ahh. Uh huh. Whotsamatter, Dickey baby? Jan, I've been here to gain some research for a study (I'm not the author) about healthcare in America, and this newsgroup provides the perfect backdrop for a research paper. In fact the entire internet does. You know there is almost a sense of hatred coming from those individuals that do their best to downplay any of the studies that are out about alternative healthcare. You got to wonder what's in it for anyone to downplay alternative healthcare in America, when it is an integral part of today's world.
Without naming names, can you think of what could possibly be the real reason that there is a constant attack of individuals in this newsgroup in particular to downplay the good points of alternative healthcare???
D. C. Sessions - 28 Jan 2008 20:31 GMT > Without naming names, can you think of what could possibly be the real > reason that > there is a constant attack of individuals in this newsgroup in > particular to downplay > the good points of alternative healthcare??? Interesting way to put it. Care to take the last few thousand messages on-spool and sort them according to:
1) /argumentum ad hominem/ 2) some sort of "altie" scale
and run a correlation? You *did* say that you were doing a study, right?
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Debbee - 28 Jan 2008 21:18 GMT > and run a correlation? You *did* say that you were doing a study, right? > > -- No, I'm gathering research for an author; there are several of us taking part in the research end of it. Not just in this newsgroup but in others ---some actively post, others just actively read. I've been taking postings, (both sides of this great debate) and it is in the manner in which the postings are made (personal attacks) which seems to be the bigger picture in the great debate. I'm no angel and either are you that's why it is necessary that the research be as fair to the real picture as possible.
For example, DC, you might not like the way I post about something; say allergies to milk products, instead of understanding my allergies to milk products, you might personally attack me saying it is all in my head----blah blah blah---others might say, you don't have a milk product allergy, you are lactose intolerant.....but no one really knows but the actual poster or if the poster was just told this by a conventional medicine practitioner, or an alternative practitioner, or if one has never heard of this allergy before, someone else could jump on the bandwagon, and state that this was a lie. If an alternative practitioner for instance said to avoid the substance you are allergic to, and the conventional practitioner said to take allergy shots because it is important that you get the Vitamin D in your body every day - and people here are making fun of your posting --- it becomes a tower of babble---everyone's talking, everyone has an idea --- so you take the information you get, and start evaluating it ---here's the alternative practitioner ---he/ she says to "avoid the product." Ok, there are no conflicts of interests with that statement. The conventional practitioner says to take "allergy shots to get the needed Vitamin D in your body," - okay - what would be in it for him/her ---allergy shots-clinic visit-$$$$$ Why not just go outside and stand in the sun, or find another form of Vitamin D --unless one enjoys drinking milk, then they might journey down the conventional pathway to get milk back in their lives. If they don't enjoy drinking milk, they can look for alternatives to getting that Vitamin D in their bodies that is needed in their daily requirement. When someone brings thoughts to a newsgroup -- instead of attacking the poster, or making them feel that their post is "stupid," or they are "stupid," calling them a moron just because you do not happen to believe in what they are saying, does not mean that their post is any less important than the person that does not agree with them.
Can you imagine, DC if you were a medical doctor, for example, and had a healthy practice in New Mexico, or Texas, or wherever, and someone ran a google search on you, and saw a variety of attacks on you -- or your practice, this would not be good for business. People would wonder what kind of person you were--based on the information they were getting from a newsgroup--or if you were a real estate agent, or you were a dentist, or whatever --- the information you are presenting, no matter how right or wrong you think you are or someone else is presenting--could come back to bite you. I didn't realize this until the other day when I started going forth with the research in a little higher gear that these groups show up in a variety of searches in a variety of websites from website search engines, and not just google groups. That's when I thought of Andrew Kingoff, if we were all a little bit more concerned, (both sides of the coin), about each other and how this could effect our businesses, then we might be a little more kinder and gentler about the manner in which we post to reflect the message and not the poster. The problem with removing posts is that when people respond, they quote what you said, and the original post is brought back to life even in a for instance, a google search.
Part of the point of this research is trying to determine where the information is actually originating from, whether it be a posters original idea or their original thoughts or an actual group of individuals with some conflicts of interests that they have not properly disclosed to the other readers. Everyone jumps on "Spam," like it was horrible---it is when it has nothing to do with the subject matter, and it would appear that the poster is trying to sell something -- by using a newsgroup to do it, but what is the difference between a group of individuals trying to push a certain point across, and take control of a topic, and that of what is considered, "Spam?" It could come across as being like spam.
I'm willing to discuss your thoughts on this DC (and others) as well.
Thank you.
Richard Schultz - 29 Jan 2008 09:54 GMT :> Ahh. Uh huh. ?Whotsamatter, Dickey baby?
: . . .You know there is almost a sense of hatred coming from those : individuals that do their best to downplay any : of the studies that are out about alternative healthcare. And what sense do you get from Jan "Smells like a Jew" Drew?
: You got to wonder what's in it for anyone to downplay alternative : healthcare in America, when it is an integral part of today's world. All sorts of evils, from pollution to war, appear to be integral parts of today's world. What do you think is "in it" for anyone who objects to those evils?
: Without naming names, can you think of what could possibly be the real : reason that there is a constant attack of individuals in this newsgroup in : particular to downplay the good points of alternative healthcare??? What specific "good points" have been "downplayed" by which specific individuals? ----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
D. C. Sessions - 29 Jan 2008 19:24 GMT > : Without naming names, can you think of what could possibly be the real > : reason that there is a constant attack of individuals in this newsgroup in > : particular to downplay the good points of alternative healthcare??? > > What specific "good points" have been "downplayed" by which specific > individuals? More to the point, when has this froup ever discussed "alternative healthcare?" Aside from spammers, it doesn't happen -- the topic here is vilifying those who practice mainstream medicine, and especially preventive medicine.
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Debbee - 30 Jan 2008 00:41 GMT > More to the point, when has this froup ever discussed "alternative > healthcare?" Aside from spammers, it doesn't happen -- the topic [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > -- >I'd really like to see more topics of alternative healthcare discussed, that's why when I see something in the news--either pro or con, I try to post it, hoping for a discussion.
Like today for instance, I was researching chiropractors, because the subject has come up in here several times lately, so I was doing a website search, and I did a search--and I read through some interesting information, some pro and some con, and I ran across this blog....thought it was pretty interesting on the chirotalk board. Neither thought of this--that chiropractors might get fed up with being a chiropractor....gave me some good insight.
http://chirotalk.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=welcome&action=display&thread=11 97490907&page=1
D. C. Sessions - 30 Jan 2008 01:11 GMT >> More to the point, when has this froup ever discussed "alternative >> healthcare?" Aside from spammers, it doesn't happen -- the topic [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > http://chirotalk.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=welcome&action=display&thread=11 97490907&page=1 Now please listen to the crickets.
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Jan Drew - 30 Jan 2008 07:52 GMT >> In article >> <8138406a-5dd7-4971-b728-61f26552a9f1@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com>, Debbee [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > here is vilifying those who practice mainstream medicine, and > especially preventive medicine. There's an all time blatant lie.
> | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | > | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lymber cartel. | > > D. C. Sessions <dcs@lymbercartel.com> From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 10, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t 07-10...@lymbercartel.com>
Debbee - 30 Jan 2008 01:01 GMT > In article <8138406a-5dd7-4971-b728-61f26552a...@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com>, Debbee <Butterflies2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > : [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > What specific "good points" have been "downplayed" by which specific > individuals? Richard, untangle the posts made by the different posters here, and address them specifically.
Thank you.
Richard Schultz - 30 Jan 2008 05:39 GMT :> In article <8138406a-5dd7-4971-b728-61f26552a...@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com>, Debbee <Butterflies2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
:> :> Ahh. Uh huh. ?Whotsamatter, Dickey baby?
:> : . . .You know there is almost a sense of hatred coming from those :> : individuals that do their best to downplay any :> : of the studies that are out about alternative healthcare. ?
:> And what sense do you get from Jan "Smells like a Jew" Drew?
:> : You got to wonder what's in it for anyone to downplay alternative :> : healthcare in America, when it is an integral part of today's world.
:> All sorts of evils, from pollution to war, appear to be integral parts of :> today's world. ?What do you think is "in it" for anyone who objects to :> those evils?
:> : Without naming names, can you think of what could possibly be the real :> : reason that there is a constant attack of individuals in this newsgroup in :> : particular to downplay the good points of alternative healthcare???
:> What specific "good points" have been "downplayed" by which specific :> individuals?
: Richard, untangle the posts made by the different posters here, and : address them specifically. Every single thing that I wrote in the post above was in response to comments made by you. Count the ":"'s and ">"'s, and you'll find that only one that I quoted was made by anyone other than you, and it was you, not I, who responded to it.
Remind me again about how intelligent you are.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Gentlemen, Ciccolini here may look like an idiot, and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you -- he really is an idiot."
Jan Drew - 30 Jan 2008 06:46 GMT > In article > <559fcaa7-d001-465c-a79d-8ffb3818a8e7@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > only one that I quoted was made by anyone other than you, and it was > you, not I, who responded to it. Dickey cannot. All he can do is blather.
Remind me again about how intelligent you are.
> ----- > Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il " he really is an idiot."
Debbee - 30 Jan 2008 08:11 GMT > Every single thing that I wrote in the post above was in response to > comments made by you. Count the ":"'s and ">"'s, and you'll find that > only one that I quoted was made by anyone other than you, and it was > you, not I, who responded to it. I looks like a rats nest. No thanks....
Richard Schultz - 30 Jan 2008 08:20 GMT :> Every single thing that I wrote in the post above was in response to :> comments made by you. ?Count the ":"'s and ">"'s, and you'll find that :> only one that I quoted was made by anyone other than you, and it was :> you, not I, who responded to it.
: I looks like a rats nest. No thanks.... If you cannot even follow a simple discussion (i.e. one in which there are only two participants), what are you doing here?
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
D. C. Sessions - 30 Jan 2008 12:42 GMT > :> Every single thing that I wrote in the post above was in response to > :> comments made by you. ?Count the ":"'s and ">"'s, and you'll find that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > If you cannot even follow a simple discussion (i.e. one in which > there are only two participants), what are you doing here? Perhaps she's used to the Microsoft top-posting system where the entire previous history of the thread is repeated and then the response to that whole history is posted at the top separated from the rest.
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Debbee - 30 Jan 2008 20:05 GMT
> Perhaps she's used to the Microsoft top-posting system where the > entire previous history of the thread is repeated and then the > response to that whole history is posted at the top separated > from the rest. Not a Microsoft fan--got to get on I-280 southbound and journey over to Cupertino to figure out what kind of fan I am-----at least I would be traveling in the sunshine today--and not the rain that California has been having...
Jan Drew - 30 Jan 2008 07:47 GMT > Jan Drew This thread is not about Jan Drew.
> ----- > Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il You don't even have a clue
Debbee - 30 Jan 2008 08:14 GMT > This thread is not about Jan Drew. Jan, did you get any idea that I was asking you to be part of the research study I am involved with? I didn't understand Ms. Nancy's post.
Entertaining as it was, the thought never crossed my mind....sorry, if you are offended Jan.
Jan Drew - 31 Jan 2008 04:26 GMT On Jan 29, 11:47 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> This thread is not about Jan Drew. >Jan
>Ms. Nancy's
>Jan.
This thread is not about any of the above.
Richard Schultz - 30 Jan 2008 08:20 GMT :> Jan Drew
: This thread is not about Jan Drew. Actually, it is. Luser.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Gentlemen, Ciccolini here may look like an idiot, and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you -- he really is an idiot."
Jan Drew - 31 Jan 2008 04:29 GMT > :> Jan Drew > > : This thread is not about Jan Drew. > > Actually, it is. Luser. Thanks for proving you lie.
This thread is about:
Richard - Mark Probert (was) My article on athletes foot has been ??published -- check it out
> ----- > Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il is an idiot
Richard Schultz - 31 Jan 2008 05:52 GMT :> :> Jan Drew
:> : This thread is not about Jan Drew.
:> Actually, it is. Luser.
: Thanks for proving you lie. : : This thread is about: : : Richard - Mark Probert (was) My article on athletes foot has been : ??published -- check it out The thread *title* may still be what you say, but the thread is now about Jan Drew. It's called "thread drift." Get over it, O clueless luser.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
Jan Drew - 01 Feb 2008 06:04 GMT > :> :> Jan Drew > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The thread *title* may still be what you say, but the thread is now about > Jan Drew. It's called "thread drift." LOLOLOL!!! When YOU do it.
This thread is not drifting, Dickey babe.
Richard - Mark Probert (was) My article on athletes foot has been ??published -- check it out
Get over it, O clueless luser.
Get over proving you lie. I think not.
> ----- > Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il is an idiot
MothWrangler - 29 Jan 2008 22:39 GMT > Jan, I've been here to gain some research for a study (I'm not the > author) about [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > particular to downplay > the good points of alternative healthcare??? Is this typical of the questions you will be asking those who agree to participate in the research study for which you are gathering data on MHA?
I didn't see you ask this question of anyone other than Jan on MHA. Is that because, so far, she is the only poster who has agreed to participate in the study?
Isn't such limited participation likely to skew the outcome of the study?
Nancy Unique, like everyone else
 Signature Proud member since 2007, WWWSC #1 Ann/Emma Anne #4
Debbee - 30 Jan 2008 00:42 GMT > I didn't see you ask this question of anyone other than Jan on MHA. Is > that because, so far, she is the only poster who has agreed to > participate in the study? Jan isn't participating in the study; where would you get that idea? I'm picking subject matters that are discussed here both pro and con - and researching somewhere else...this just gives me a good starting point for what I am actually researching.
MothWrangler - 31 Jan 2008 19:11 GMT >>I didn't see you ask this question of anyone other than Jan on MHA. Is >>that because, so far, she is the only poster who has agreed to >>participate in the study? > > Jan isn't participating in the study; where would you get that idea? The content of the post to Jan. First you talked about your research in MHA, then you asked Jan, and only Jan, a question.
Are you saying that there's no relationship between the information you provided to Jan about your research and the question to her that followed?
> I'm picking subject matters > that are discussed here both pro and con - and researching somewhere > else...this just gives me > a good starting point for what I am actually researching. So you are now saying you are actually not doing research for a study in MHA, you are doing research "somewhere else?" But you previously said you were doing research for a study in MHA. Please resolve the conflict between those statements.
Nancy Unique, like everyone else
 Signature Proud member since 2007, WWWSC #1 Ann/Emma Anne #4
Debbee - 31 Jan 2008 22:18 GMT > So you are now saying you are actually not doing research for a study in > MHA, you are doing research "somewhere else?" But you previously said > you were doing research for a study in MHA. Please resolve the conflict > between those statements. I think you will find some interesting information on these websites.
http://www.drmillslmu.com/Testing/spr02/panel2.htm
All sorts of people use usenet for studies--did they get your permission???
http://www.cindoc.csic.es/cybermetrics/articles/v1i1p1.html
You'd better talk to Microsoft---look what they admit to doing! I wonder what information they have of mine?
http://www.news.com/2008-1082_3-5065298.html
http://jcmc.indiana.edu/vol10/issue4/turner.html
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/participation_inequality.html
http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue3_7/chapter1/index.html
Nancy, as I have said, you and the rest of the posters here have nothing to worry about, it isn't about them, it isn't about what they write about (I could care less), but topics of interest--you know the subject matters that keep coming up over and over and over and the frequency of those subject matters. it's not about alternative medicine, it's not about conventional medicine...
Look at the microsoft research project and some of the others that I just posted. If you are going to point fingers at me, then you you need to point them at others. I wasn't even aware that those had taken place until finding those studies were you?
Debbee - 02 Feb 2008 19:53 GMT > So you are now saying you are actually not doing research for a study in > MHA, you are doing research "somewhere else?" But you previously said > you were doing research for a study in MHA. Please resolve the conflict > between those statements. I want to make it perfectly clear what I am researching and why I am doing it. My cousin in Michigan is an ICU nurse supervisor; she also works in ER. She sees a lot of patients that are "clueless" about their family's medical histories. She attended a conference for medical professionals, and health advocacy attorneys, I believe last year. One of the discussion groups was about the inability of many people to even know how someone died, or when they died, nor what therapies (either coventional or alternative) were used. It was also brought up by a child advocate health professional of the importance of where people lived, and where people worked as well for future generations as there are chemicals known to cause birth defects in children.
I'm only researching subject matters so that at the family reunion scheduled for October, those that are interested can fill out the survey, so that our family can have the best book of answers for future generations to come if they wish to participate. Jan is not in my family, and her medical history is not my business. The following link may be of interest to you, as there is a movement in suggesting to other families that they take part in such research.
http://www.nsgc.org/consumer/familytree/index.cfm
I hope this satisfies your curosity in why I am researching--subject matters.
Jan Drew - 30 Jan 2008 07:02 GMT "MothWrangler" <mothwrangler@hotmail.com>
Woo-zy
Debbee - 25 Jan 2008 06:05 GMT >Richard: This is at least the second time that you have implied that you ply a > trade of which (at least according to what I read on the internet) Ilena > Rosenthal is a well-known practitioner. If you were as smart as you claim > to be, you would be careful not to post such personal details. There was no such mention of the trade. It would appear that your mind only registers at gutter level.....
Debbee - 23 Jan 2008 15:57 GMT > Most assuredly we are. Sadly, you are not. There you go with the "WE" again. So who is the WE??? Does WE stand for??? Please do explain.
> Who wrote that script? The Story Teller
D. C. Sessions - 23 Jan 2008 18:02 GMT >> Most assuredly we are. Sadly, you are not. > > There you go with the "WE" again. So who is the WE??? Does WE stand > for??? Please do explain. The "we" is the same as the "they" in Carole's post (that you snipped.)
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Debbee - 24 Jan 2008 15:56 GMT ---snipped everything but DC's answer------
> The "we" is the same as the "they" in Carole's post (that you snipped.) I wasn't responding to Carole---was I???
D. C. Sessions - 24 Jan 2008 16:16 GMT > ---snipped everything but DC's answer------ >> >> The "we" is the same as the "they" in Carole's post (that you snipped.) > > I wasn't responding to Carole---was I??? You were asking about the meaning of "we" in an reply to a post by Carole that used the second-person plural. You snipped the quoted text that the "we" referred to.
Context, context.
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Jan Drew - 24 Jan 2008 23:32 GMT > In message > <2e7b1d92-52c7-4cf6-a4f0-83af82cf68fb@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You were asking about the meaning of "we" in an reply to a post by > Carole that used the second-person plural. You snipped the quoted
> text that the "we" referred to. > > Context, context. No, she was asking Who is *WE*?
Furthermore, she replied to you. Your dance only means you cannot answer her question.
Shame. shame, Douglas.
Richard Schultz - 23 Jan 2008 17:25 GMT :> > I'm still waiting for her to figure out that her treatment directly :> > contradicts the principles of the theory on which it is claimed to :> > be based.
:> Wouldn't that require at least some sort of consistency check?
: Is that the same as the increasingly re-iterative checks, where the : complexity of the wordspeak disappears up a duck's arse. Actually, it's quite simple. According to the theory that you claim to espouse, sulfate and phosphate are essential components of "cellsalts." According to your posts, sulfate and phosphate are *not* essential components of "cellsalts." Someone capable of performing a "consistency check" will recognize the difficulty of simultaneously believing both the theory and your posts.
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D. C. Sessions - 23 Jan 2008 18:01 GMT > :> > I'm still waiting for her to figure out that her treatment directly > :> > contradicts the principles of the theory on which it is claimed to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > recognize the difficulty of simultaneously believing both the theory and > your posts. Not to mention checking either or both against easily verifiable physical reality, such as dissociation numbers for highly ionic aqueous solutions such as those mentioned.
... but there we go again, confusing a perfectly good contest in forcible urination with meaningless jargon that no doubt exists only to hide the fact that the Evil Inorganic Chemistry Conspiracy has been faking it all these centuries and really has absolutely no clue what really happens with these mysterious thingies.
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Richard Schultz - 23 Jan 2008 21:21 GMT :> Actually, it's quite simple. According to the theory that you claim to :> espouse, sulfate and phosphate are essential components of "cellsalts." :> According to your posts, sulfate and phosphate are *not* essential :> components of "cellsalts." Someone capable of performing a "consistency :> check" will recognize the difficulty of simultaneously believing both the :> theory and your posts.
: Not to mention checking either or both against easily verifiable : physical reality, such as dissociation numbers for highly ionic : aqueous solutions such as those mentioned. As I write this, I'm several thousand miles away from my biology books. Do you know offhand if the human body can convert sulfate to the reduced forms in which sulfur is found in the body (e.g. in amino acids and disulfide linkages)? I realize that it would be a complete waste of time explaining to Carole that the "Cellsalt" theory is based on the notion that burning something fails to oxidize it, or that the sulfur that we get in our diet is found in reduced forms, but I got sort of curious.
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D. C. Sessions - 23 Jan 2008 22:03 GMT > As I write this, I'm several thousand miles away from my biology books. > Do you know offhand if the human body can convert sulfate to the reduced [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > burning something fails to oxidize it, or that the sulfur that we get in our > diet is found in reduced forms, but I got sort of curious. There you go again, putting things in a context that totally blows past their whole conceptual framework.
Anyway, since I have a microbiologist and chem minor handy, she held my hand on this one. The answer is a qualified, "yes." Sulphate ion is a bioavailable form of sulfur for mammals, but only (surprise) when not in the presence of cations which form insoluble sulphates such as calcium.
The warnings are pretty serious, in that using sulfates can do some seriously bad things to the bioavailability of other key minerals. It seems that Carole's blithe mix-and-match with anions will result in wild variations in the cation delivery.
http://www.cattletoday.com/archive/2005/May/CT393.shtml
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Jan Drew - 24 Jan 2008 23:40 GMT "D. C. Sessions" <dcs@lymbercartel.com>
Plonk!
Jan Drew - 24 Jan 2008 23:39 GMT Jan Drew - 24 Jan 2008 23:38 GMT [ ]
All diversions plonked!
Richard Schultz - 25 Jan 2008 04:18 GMT : All diversions plonked! Do you even know what the term "plonk" *means*?
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Peter Bowditch - 25 Jan 2008 04:43 GMT >: All diversions plonked! > >Do you even know what the term "plonk" *means*? It's an old-fashioned Australian word for cheap wine. When it is (mis)used around here it usually indicates a cheap whine.
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Richard Schultz - 25 Jan 2008 13:40 GMT :>: All diversions plonked!
:>Do you even know what the term "plonk" *means*?
: It's an old-fashioned Australian word for cheap wine. When it is : (mis)used around here it usually indicates a cheap whine. *I* knew that -- the term "plonk" for "cheap red wine" was popularized in the Northern Hemisphere some three decades ago by none other than that claret-swilling barrister, Horace Rumpole. I was asking Jan Drew if *she* knew what it meant. Now that you've told her, we'll never know for sure. And yes, I know that Leo McKern was originally from Australia.
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Peter Bowditch - 25 Jan 2008 23:35 GMT >:>: All diversions plonked! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >knew what it meant. Now that you've told her, we'll never know for sure. >And yes, I know that Leo McKern was originally from Australia. You don't have to worry about me revealing anything to Jan. She has been told many times before what the meaning of "plonk" is in the context of Usenet, but as she suffers from CAS (Carassius Auratus Syndrome) she forgets almost immediately. This is also the reason that while she freely accuses both you and me of lying she can't remember the details of the lies.
I still think the wine/whine connection is relevant here.
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The One True Zhen Jue - 25 Jan 2008 16:18 GMT > In article <Yj9mj.553$R84...@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, Jan Drew <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote |
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