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rpautrey2 - 19 Jan 2008 05:32 GMT
Vaccine Information From:

Vaccine Truth
Link: www.vaccinetruth.org

You are about to find out what I never wanted to know about vaccines.
I would love to be proven wrong about what I have discovered. So
please, if you have information to the contrary, share it with me. To
read my research, go to the cover page  then follow the page numbers.
Each one of the pictures on this page represents a page. You can use
them to navigate as well. When you are finished reading it, let me
know what you think.
Thanks, Wendy
Callahan

Join the Yahoo group: Vaccinetruth@yahoogroups.com

Summary of He's Not Autistic But...

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The Vaccination

By Patricia Crutchfield

His trusting eyes looked up at me
He smiled his sweetest smile
What a precious gift from God he was
My son my first born child,

The nurse came in and weighed him
Put a thermometer briefly in his ear
Then she told me to take off his diaper
And expose his plump little rear.

I did as I was instructed
For I knew the procedure by now
It's time for his next vaccination
This time I won't flinch, I vow.

The syringes and vial of the serums
Lay benignly on her sterile steel tray
And though I try to watch her,
I find myself turning away.

His scream at the prick of the needle
Sends a bolt of pure terror through me
It's animal like pitch was not normal
And I turned around quickly to see.

His beautiful body went rigid
Then spasmed again and again
What's happening to my poor baby?
And what can I do to help him?

I could sense the nurse's pure panic
As she called out to the doctor to come
The seconds that passed seems like hours
And where is that screaming coming from?

I open my eyes in a room filled with light
The silence a deafening roar
My husband is standing beside me
He says everything fine, but his tears tell me more

I try to sit up, but I'm weary
Another needle pierces my arm
I drift off once again into darkness
But my mind beats a steady alarm.

Two days and two nights I am sedated
Until now no one tells me why
Then the doctor appears with my husband
And immediately I start to cry

My most precious gift has been taken
He'll never again be mine to hold
His body once so warm and loving
Now lays on a slab icy cold

I'm sorry says the good doctor
A reaction we couldn't foresee
Please accept my sincerest condolence
I guess it was just meant to be

Our son now plays with the angels
And my heart breaks anew everyday
Its the angels who tickle his tummy
And it's in their arms not mine, he will lay

A statistic, one in seventeen hundred
That's what they say of my son
But I say one child is too many
To die from a vaccination

So mothers do not be so trusting
Hear me before it's to late
Don't lose your child to the "program"
Investigate before you vaccinate

Ode to National Infant Immunization Week:  Stick It
     By Ana Phylaxis

I actually don't mind green eggs and ham.
It's vaccines I don't like, Uncle Sam.

Too many children have paid the price
for harmful and deceptive immunization advice.

There is more to health than preventing infections
with dozens of toxic and dangerous injections.

You purposefully ignore all of the parents' cries
that autism, asthma and diabetes continue to rise.

Since the word "safe" implies "free from harm",
I'll choose what's injected into my child's arm.

I do not want them up my nose,
or spliced into my potatoes.

I will not drink them in a glass.
I will not let you stick my @$$.

I do not want them for any reason;
not even in your "worst" flu season.

For decades now you've been trying to hide,
the dangers of mercury and formaldehyde.

You won't do the research to try to explain
why vaccines sometime ruin a developing brain.

Yet you tell us to just say no to drugs,
but if we question a shot you act like thugs.

Are injected monkey and fetal cells really healthy?
Or are they part of the scam that makes drug companies wealthy?

When you 'all lay down tonight to say your prayers,
please include all the vaccine victims listed in VAERs.

Favorite Quotes:

               All truth goes through three stages. First it is
ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as
self-evident."

(Schopenhauer)

                                       "Condemnation without
investigation is the height of ignorance." Albert Einstein

          Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about
things that matter."

Martin Luther King

 An error can never become true however many times you repeat it. The
truth can never be wrong, even if no one ever hears about it.  Mahatma
Gandhi

"Doctors put drugs of which they know little, into bodies of which
they know less, for diseases of which they know nothing at all."
Voltaire

"I don't always go into details about the possible side effects of
drugs. I tell them all drugs are poisons with possible beneficial side
effects."-Dr Jay Gordon (American hero in my book!)

"In the field of vaccination, medical training is simple
indoctrination."

"Medical school is medicult school."

"Is that a vaccination needle in your pocket, or are you just trying
to kill me?"
Jock Doubleday, director@spontaneouscreation.org

It's a strange law that compels children to be vaccinated in order to
attend school and then disables them so they cannot attend -- anything.

You see, the definition of a "hot lot" is a vaccine that has been
recalled.  If it hasn't been recalled, that is proof that it isn't
hot. Very logical.

Finding out later about a bad vaccine in the past, doesn't make it
hot. After all, enough time has passed for it to have cooled down,
don't you think?


Sandy from Alaska

Inoculations are the true weapons of mass destruction causing an
epidemic of GENOCIDE

Rebecca Carley, MD
                                 Court Qualified Expert in VIDS
(Vaccine Induced Diseases)

http://www.drcarley.com

"It requires courage to utter truth; for the higher Truth lifts her
voice,the louder will error scream, until its inarticulate sound is
forever silenced in oblivion"...Mary Baker Eddy, Christian Science

..discussing vaccination with a doctor is like discussing
vegetarianism with a butcher...........

George Bernard Shaw

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil  is that good men do
nothing"...

Edmund Burke

"We have not lost faith, but we have transferred it from God to the
medical profession"
-
George Bernard Shaw

                      "Tell a lie loud enough and long enough and
people will believe it."

(Adolph Hitler)

                        "The greatest lie ever told is that vaccines
are safe and effective"

Dr. Len Horowitz

                   What good fortune for those in power that the
people do not think."

~Adolf Hitler

"When you once see something as false which you have accepted as true,
as natural, as human, then you can never go back to it"

J. Krishnamurti

It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware
the people around us are of what is really happening to
them."                                      ~Adolf Hitler

                     "When you know better, you do
better."                  -Maya Angelou

                 " Lethal injections are for criminals. We need to
keep it that way."

"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the
world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has"


Margaret Mead, Anthropologist

 You can always put the vaccines in... but you can never take them
out.

                                      Investigate before you
vaccinate

                                      Vaccines make $$$$ But no sense

  " Fear of disease, fear of microorganisms, fear of the unknown, is
the tool of the clever  that keeps the weak in
line"                                              ~ Tim O'Shea, DC

                A child killed by a vaccine is just as tragic as a
child killed by illness

          Cost of co-pay for vaccinations: $10.00

         Cost of trip to McDonalds after vaxing: $10.00

        Cost of hospitalization after reacting to vax: $300,000.00*

       Cost of avoiding vaxes and knowing your child never reacts:
PRICELESS

      * Actual bill

"The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest
his patients in the care of the human frame, in diet and in the cause
and prevention of disease."
- Thomas Edison

The Laws of Ecology: "All things are interconnected. Everything goes
somewhere. There's no such thing as a free lunch. Nature bats last."

by Ernest Callenbach

                                     Reject the inject. Vaccines
kill.

What a strange religion medicine makes.  It's the only religion that
is federally backed, and even amid scientific controversy, cannot be
questioned openly without persecution or ridicule."

Why Doctors do not understand the evils of vaccinations....

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary
depends upon his not understanding
it!"
Upton Sinclair

"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead
you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about
how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world."
                                       Dr.Linus Pauling, in How to
Live Longer and Feel Better

"the right of the individual to elect freely the manner of his care in
illness must be
preserved"....
Dwight D. Eisenhower

No one has ever successfully proven that any child has ever benefited
from an injection of rotting matter combined with nerve and brain
destroying poisons, the actual ingredients of vaccines.
                                                                                                              ......Dewey

What is the name of the test that can be given to determine if a child
can safely receive a vaccine?

It's called a breath test. You hold a mirror in front of the child and
if condensation appears, they are still alive and cannot "safely"
receive a vaccine.

Steve

Vaccination is a medical procedure that causes permanent and
irreversible modification of the immune system

                   "Vaccination -  A business based on  fear Dr. G.
Buchwald

"Mandatory vaccination is an outrage upon the individual in a land of
personal freedom."  D.D. Palmer, the originator of the profession of
chiropractic.  He died in 1913

"Uneducated people believe what they are told...Educated people
question what they are told"

                    "The only shot my son needs is a shot at the
future."
               ......Lori Mcilwain

Facts are stubborn, and refusal to accept them does not avoid their
inexorable effects -- the tragic consequences are now upon us.

"People do not like to think. If one thinks, one must reach
conclusions. Conclusions are not always
pleasant."
-Helen Keller

Have there been heartbreaking exceptions? Yes. But there have also
been tragic consequences from immunizations. No system of healing can
claim a perfect
record.
Joan Gayord

Bedford Hills, N.Y.

"Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make
them all yourself."

A good rule of thumb: "Vitamin C should be given while the doctor
ponders
the diagnosis."                                           Frederick R.
Klenner, M.D., F.C.C.P.

                           "HARM" seems to be intrinsic part of
"pHARMa"

             Vaccine free is the only way to be

                              "Truth fears nothing but concealment."

MD's are those who think we have an excess of organs and a deficiency
of
drugs

~Donna C.

          You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep. ~
Navajo Proverb

The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while nature cures
the disease
--
Voltaire

The old saying for toxicology needs updating.  In the days of blissful
ignorance it has been "the dose makes the poison".  With
enlightenment from  the suffering of us victims, and modern science,
it should be modified to "the dose and sensitivity of the person make
the poison".

"Modern medicine" may well be defined as "the experimental study of
what
happens when poisonous chemicals are placed into malnourished human
bodies."

A. Saul    Contributing Editor,
                    Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine (http://
www.orthomed.org)

"A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply
the lie was believed...When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold
gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly
preposterous and its speaker, a raving lunatic." --Dresden James

"To think the needle is going to protect you is as silly as thinking
that drugs will make you healthy."


Andrew Saul, PhD

                          "Nearly all men die of their medicines, not
of their diseases."

- Moliere, (1622-1672)

"He's the best physician that knows the worthlessness of most
medicines."
"God heals and the Doctor takes the fee." - Benjamin Franklin,
(1706-1790)

"Half of the modern drugs could well be thrown out of the window,
except that the birds might eat them. Dr. Martin Henry Fischer"

For us to bombard a newborn baby with a whole battery of vaccines as,
in effect, their very first immunologic experience I think is reckless
beyond measure. I would say it borders on the
criminal.
Dr. Moscowitz

                 "To know what is right and not to do it is the worst
cowardice."

-Confucius

                 If you think that something is right just because
everyone believes
             it, then you are not thinking"

Vievienne Westwood

               "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a
revolutionary act."

~George Orwell

                  "I didn't say it would be easy.  I just said it
would be the truth."

- Morpheus

                              Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a
slave."

-Frederick Douglass

                                       No one is immune from vaccine
reactions.

               Men occasionally stumble on the truth, but most of
them pick themselves
                       up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.

Winston Churchill

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
then you win."


~Ghandi

"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I
should do, by the grace of God, I will do." - Edward Everett Hale

We have on our statute book a law that compels . . . a man to offer up
his body to pollution and filth and disease; that compels him to
submit to a barbarous ceremonial of blood-poisoning, and virtually to
say to a sick calf, "Thou art my savior: in thee do I trust. . . ."
-- Brief of the Defendant, Commonwealth v. Jacobson, 183 Mass. 242
(1903)

"Your failure to be informed does not make me a wacko." -- John
Loeffler

                      I have no medical training, but I can read.

God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things
which are mighty. (1 Corinthians 1:27)

Where are the unvaccinated homeschooled children with autism? Nowhere
to be found - Dr. Bradstreet

"All rights not demanded are presumed waived"  ~Scott Thurston

"The great tragedy of science - a beautiful hypothesis slain by an
ugly fact.

"Thomas Huxley

"If you think you're too small to be effective, you've never been in
bed
with a mosquito."

--Betty Reese

A poster from the Power of Parents Rally:

"My daughter can't talk or make a friend, but at least I saved $4 on
her vaccine with thimerosal".

If it is shown that mercury in vaccines has hurt children, Weldon
said, it will go down as "one of the biggest blunders in modern
medical history."
                                                      Dave
Weldon~U.S. Representative

"I know that most men, including those at ease with the problems of
the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity
of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues,
which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven,
thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives."

Leo Tolstoy

....doctors must take back the responsibility of asking the right
questions. Your patients are not "the herd," but individuals. When
doctors stop asking "Has this child been vaccinated?" and begin asking
"Should this child be vaccinated?" they will again be healers we can
trust with the health of our
children....
Jared Hansen/ Framingham

People change for two reasons, They either learn so much they want to
or they hurt so bad they have to.                            wish I
knew the author.....

Thus, if you inject babies with poisonous solutions and the babies get
sick from the poisons, the only forthright response is to blame the
babies for getting sick.

Sir-carlito reports President Bush (paraphrased) being asked "Will you
be
getting a flu shot this year to protect the country given all the
traveling
that you do?"

Bush: "Unfortunately no. I am very healthy so to do my part, I will
save
the flu shot for someone who really needs it. I do not want to take
away a
valuable resource when it might be better served for another person."

Think he knows there is mercury in the shots?

*900,000 children-nearly one out of every five two-year olds-have not
been immunized

Its a good start...

                    Right is right, even if everyone is against it;
and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it

--William Penn

If breastfeeding in public disturbs you, please feel free to put a
blanket over your head or go finish your meal in the restroom.

                 If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will
be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."

-James Madison

Edited: rpautrey2
The One True Zhen Jue - 19 Jan 2008 14:29 GMT
> Vaccine Information From:
>
> Vaccine Truth

The truth is that vaccines work and work very well.  They are the most
sucessful form of preventative medicine and have saved over a billion
lives.

The truth is that only child-hating, anti-vac liars dispute the value
of vaccines.

Truth, that!
Citizen Jimserac - 20 Jan 2008 14:24 GMT
On Jan 19, 9:29 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> > Vaccine Information From:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Truth, that!

Your personal attacks do NOTHING to bolster
your position and instead undermine it.

Medicine, and even human, progress will proceed
only when we have learned to retain our objectivity
and refrain from leaps of emotion on issues
which must be analyzed with the strictest
logic and dispassion.

Citizen Jimserac
The One True Zhen Jue - 20 Jan 2008 14:32 GMT
> On Jan 19, 9:29 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> which must be analyzed with the strictest
> logic and dispassion.

If you believe that, then why do you deny the facts?  Vaccination has
been one of the greatest innovations in human history.  It is only
recently that a.sholes have decided to lie about them in order to push
a child-hating, anti-vac agenda.

The facts are the basis of my position.  Your position is a hodge
podge of paranoid supersition, lies, & scientific illiteracy.  You've
been told that thimerosal and vaccines do not cause autism, but you've
chosen to denial over truth.  Same for amalgams, which have been
pronounced safe by the EU, amongst others.

You are quite welcome to the dysphoria of your own devices.

> Citizen Jimserac
Citizen Jimserac - 20 Jan 2008 23:41 GMT
> > On Jan 19, 9:29 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> > CitizenJimserac

DENY THE FACTS?  My problem is figuring out
exactly what the facts are!

YOU understand, do you not, that industry
announcements DO NOT  constitute facts.

I've already been fooled once in this
newsgroup after reading of tests that supposedly
exonerated the vaccine industry from the
culpability of the Mercury based preservative,
what was its name, Thimserosol or some such,
regarding a possible cause in the undeniable
upsurge in the rate of autism.

My position on vaccines is that yes they
have done a lot of good but, I believe, to
a growing percentage of people, are also doing
harm.

Yes  exactly WHAT ARE THE FACTS?
I'm trying to find out too!

Citizen Jimserac
PS Any personal attacks against anyone terminates
the my participation in this thread.
The One True Zhen Jue - 20 Jan 2008 23:46 GMT
> > > On Jan 19, 9:29 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> DENY THE FACTS?  My problem is figuring out
> exactly what the facts are!

Yes, I agree that is a fundamental part of your problem.

> YOU understand, do you not, that industry
> announcements DO NOT  constitute facts.

Yup.

> I've already been fooled once in this
> newsgroup after reading of tests that supposedly
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Yes  exactly WHAT ARE THE FACTS?
> I'm trying to find out too!

The facts are clear.  Vaccination is a very good thing.

> Citizen Jimserac
> PS Any personal attacks against anyone terminates
> the my participation in this thread.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Peter Bowditch - 20 Jan 2008 20:25 GMT
>On Jan 19, 9:29 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>which must be analyzed with the strictest
>logic and dispassion.

Precisely! Like he said - the truth is that only child-hating,
anti-vac liars dispute the value of vaccines.

>Citizen Jimserac

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D. C. Sessions - 20 Jan 2008 23:44 GMT
>>Medicine, and even human, progress will proceed
>>only when we have learned to retain our objectivity
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Precisely! Like he said - the truth is that only child-hating,
> anti-vac liars dispute the value of vaccines.

That's not only a remarkably arrogant statement, it's demonstrably
untrue.  As a counterexample, I present to you our very own Carole.

All things considered, I'd really prefer *not* to turn this into
opposing camps of Holy Warriors [1] -- if nothing else, you have far
better arguments that are stronger when not contaminated by
personal vilification.

[1] I'm pretty sure you know my definition.

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Jan Drew - 22 Jan 2008 06:43 GMT
"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> blathered what has been blathered
repeatedly:

The truth is that only child-hating, anti-vac liars dispute the value
of vaccines.

No, that is not the truth.  It IS a direct LIE.
Nobody here knows who is a child hater.

Truth, that!
David Wright - 22 Jan 2008 02:58 GMT
>Vaccine Information From:
>
>Vaccine Truth
>Link: www.vaccinetruth.org

Pfui.  An unusable opening, followed by a review of a book that starts
out like this:

>Summary of He's Not Autistic But...
>
>According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 1 in
>150 children is born with autism. Tenna Merchent is all too familiar
>with this frightening statistic as she feared her own son might suffer
>from this devastating disorder.

Except that the 1 in 150 covers the entire autism spectrum disorder,
not full-blown autism.  Given a major distortion like this, how can
the rest of it be taken seriously?

Then we get a couple of poems, and a lot of quotations, most of them
from people who've been dead for centuries.  This is supposed to be
some sort of evidence?

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
rpautrey2 - 22 Jan 2008 03:17 GMT
DW: Follow the link - www.vaccinetruth.org for the evidence. DAAHHH!
PA

> In article <5beacfc1-8a61-4256-9cc4-0804adcc1...@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,

> Then we get a couple of poems, and a lot of quotations, most of them
> from people who've been dead for centuries.  This is supposed to be
> some sort of evidence?
>
>   -- David Wright
David Wright - 22 Jan 2008 04:56 GMT
>DW: Follow the link - www.vaccinetruth.org for the evidence. DAAHHH!
>PA

Yeah, I've been there.  The usual half-truths and distortions.  I'm
unimpressed.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher

>> In article <5beacfc1-8a61-4256-9cc4-0804adcc1...@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
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>>   -- David Wright
 
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