> <drcee...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
This old medical literature is in any case rarely
> > trustworthy and numerous old claims did not stand the test of time.
>
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> medicine? Maybe because medicine is based upon lies and deceit.
> Maybe because it is based upon a false medical paradigm?
> How can you disparage and ignore a protocol that was, and is, 98%
> succesfull.? Simply because it requires no salt...and no drugs? This
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> PM "Is"? I call that bluff. Let me see this contemporary data on
> cutaneous TB.
I call your huff. Prove to us that Sauerbruch and Herrmansdorer , et
al. were incopetents and only you are the harbinger of the allopathic
truth.
> I see no good reason to do so with ancient historical material when
> cutaneous TB is now as rare as hen's teeth and usually curable.
SLE is as rare as hen's teeth? I don't think so.
Also these
> old TB doctors are talking about patients in sanatoria where lots of things
> went on, not just special diets.
Just what the hell went on Moron?
I'll wager these are not properly
> controlled trials,
Well, I have given you over 200 peer reviewed journal articles to
review. You wish to claim that all these doctors and reviewers are
incomptent, and only you are competent. LOL
because these were extremely rare before the middle of
> the last century. And there is no way we can get to check anything they say
> (the advantage of these old claims for quacks).
Ahh, Sauerbruch, a renowned surgeon for whom we still have the
Sauerbruch Institutue was a quack? And we are to believe that?
> Why not talk about something worthwhile, like cancer?. If you want to know
> what looking at the *original data* tells us about the Gerson claim that the
> same diet can cure cancer then I refer you to my web site. Doctors do
> make claims that are false, and not even supported by their own data.
> Gerson calimed 50% success even in advanced cases, whereas his clinic was
> unable to cure a single case with visceral disease.
Let us set Gerson aside for a moment. Let us consider the oncologists
in Japan, and Dr Van der Veck of Holland and heir results with cancer
circa year 2000.
> http://www.users.on.net/~pmoran/cancer/Alternative_studies.htmhttp://www.users.o
n.net/~pmoran/cancer/Gerson.htm
>
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> DrCee
> Not a pharma shill ( I am not here to lie or decieve you )
Petey the Moron is a deceiving Judas goat. You cannot believe
anything he writes. When presented with the truth that 446 of 450
patients were cured of Lupus by using diet in Europe, he requested
published data. When given hundreds of peer-reviewed, published
articles in Journals like the Lancet, he ran for the hills like a dog
with its tail between its legs. Do not believe anything this Judas
goat writes. He is here only to lead the dumb sheeple to the
hospitals for slaughter.
Here is the link to the data:
http://gerson-research.org/docs/SauerbruchF-1951-1/index.html
http://gerson-research.org/bibliography/index.html#SauerbruchF-1951-1
DrCee
Peter Moran - 18 Jan 2008 05:23 GMT
On Jan 17, 8:46 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> <drcee...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
This old medical literature is in any case rarely
> > trustworthy and numerous old claims did not stand the test of time.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> medicine? Maybe because medicine is based upon lies and deceit.
> Maybe because it is based upon a false medical paradigm?
> How can you disparage and ignore a protocol that was, and is, 98%
> succesfull.? Simply because it requires no salt...and no drugs? This
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> PM "Is"? I call that bluff. Let me see this contemporary data on
> cutaneous TB.
I call your huff. Prove to us that Sauerbruch and Herrmansdorer , et
al. were incopetents and only you are the harbinger of the allopathic
truth.
> I see no good reason to do so with ancient historical material when
> cutaneous TB is now as rare as hen's teeth and usually curable.
SLE is as rare as hen's teeth? I don't think so.
PM I don' know why I even talk to you. DO you STILL not understand that
cutaneous TB ("skin TB") is mpt the same thing as SLE (Systemnic Lupus
Erythematosis)? Do you have any idea how rare TB is today, compared to
early last century when one seventh of the world's population were said to
die of it?
PM
Also these
> old TB doctors are talking about patients in sanatoria where lots of
> things
> went on, not just special diets.
Just what the hell went on Moron?
I'll wager these are not properly
> controlled trials,
Well, I have given you over 200 peer reviewed journal articles to
review. You wish to claim that all these doctors and reviewers are
incomptent, and only you are competent. LOL
because these were extremely rare before the middle of
> the last century. And there is no way we can get to check anything they
> say
> (the advantage of these old claims for quacks).
Ahh, Sauerbruch, a renowned surgeon for whom we still have the
Sauerbruch Institutue was a quack? And we are to believe that?
> Why not talk about something worthwhile, like cancer?. If you want to know
> what looking at the *original data* tells us about the Gerson claim that
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Gerson calimed 50% success even in advanced cases, whereas his clinic was
> unable to cure a single case with visceral disease.
Let us set Gerson aside for a moment. Let us consider the oncologists
in Japan, and Dr Van der Veck of Holland and heir results with cancer
circa year 2000.
> http://www.users.on.net/~pmoran/cancer/Alternative_studies.htmhttp://www.users.o
n.net/~pmoran/cancer/Gerson.htm
>
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> DrCee
> Not a pharma shill ( I am not here to lie or decieve you )
Petey the Moron is a deceiving Judas goat. You cannot believe
anything he writes. When presented with the truth that 446 of 450
patients were cured of Lupus by using diet in Europe, he requested
published data. When given hundreds of peer-reviewed, published
articles in Journals like the Lancet, he ran for the hills like a dog
with its tail between its legs. Do not believe anything this Judas
goat writes. He is here only to lead the dumb sheeple to the
hospitals for slaughter.
Here is the link to the data:
http://gerson-research.org/docs/SauerbruchF-1951-1/index.html
http://gerson-research.org/bibliography/index.html#SauerbruchF-1951-1
DrCee
> On Jan 17, 6:26 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>> <drcee...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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>
> http://www.users.on.net/~pmoran/cancer/Alternative_studies.htm
what DO alternative methods really do?
What conventional so-called medicine could NOT do.
> http://www.users.on.net/~pmoran/cancer/Gerson.htm
>
> PM
http://www.gerson.org/g_therapy/studies.asp
http://cancer-research.net/TenCaseHistories.pdf
http://www.cancure.org/cancer_victors.htm
> ver 15 papers. Hermannsdorfer published
> over 10 papers. Sprigge published 9 papers, most in the Lancet. You
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> DrCee
> Not a pharma shill ( I am not here to lie or decieve you )