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Tinnitis, or ringing in the ears -- elimination with cellsalts
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Carole - 15 Jan 2008 12:25 GMT Tinnitis is often characterised by a ringing in the ears, which can become distracting once the noise rises to a certain level which can become something like the noise that cicadas make on a warm summer night, starting off slowly and gradually rising to a crescendo that drowns out other noises and eventually forces you to notice nothing else.
Silica / silica dioxide is the classic cellsalt treatment for this condition. Silica also treats underarm odour.
I often have people ask me whether cellsalts are taken orally or applied topically. Well of course they are taken orally, I never use them topically. They are homeopathic tablets to be taken orally.
And the point is with using underarm deodorants to reduce body odour is that it isn't natural. Whereas silica is a natural mineral that the body needs. Now before you go and ask me why would sand (silica) be a natural mineral, I will respond pre-emptively by saying that silica is presented as silica dioxide which is some sort of bonding between silica and oxygen -- see I do know some chemistry. Silicon dioxide is presented in a form that is acceptable for nutritional needs and there have been studies done to show that silica can be ingested in huge quantities without any harm, also that it is essential for bone growth in chickens.
Silica is known as a deep cleansing cellsalts, that breaks up accumulations of pathological substances that have arrived in the body at a certain point but which aren't needed for any functional purposes. So it stands to reason that if a person has underarm odour which is an indication of silica deficiency, taking silica is more desirable than using deodorant which just kills the smell.
Summing up, silica is good for tinnitus as well as itchy eyes and nose and underarm odour /odor.
Carole www.cellsalts.net
Richard Schultz - 15 Jan 2008 13:16 GMT : Whereas silica is a natural mineral that the body needs. What is the solubility of silica at physiological pH?
: Now before you go and ask me why would sand (silica) be a natural mineral, I : will respond pre-emptively by saying that silica is presented as silica : dioxide which is some sort of bonding between silica and oxygen -- see I do : know some chemistry. Not enough to know the what the nature of that bonding is.
: Silicon dioxide is presented in a form that is acceptable for nutritional : needs and there have been studies done to show that silica can be ingested : in huge quantities without any harm, also that it is essential for bone : growth in chickens. Silica can be ingested in great quantities without any harm because it is indigestible. Note that this only refers to *eating* silica -- ingestion of silica dust by breathing is known to be harmful.
: Silica is known as a deep cleansing cellsalts, that breaks up accumulations : of pathological substances that have arrived in the body at a certain point : but which aren't needed for any functional purposes. By what process does silica "break up" these mysterious "pathological substances"?
: So it stands to reason that if a person has underarm odour which is an : indication of silica deficiency, taking silica is more desirable than using : deodorant which just kills the smell. Underarm odor is not an indication of silica deficiency; at least, you have yet to present us with any evidence that it is, and until such time as you do, I will stick with the conventional explanation, which has the benefit of actually making sense.
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Why is it so important that you want to contact the governments of our Earth?" "Because of Death! Because all you of Earth are idiots!"
Carole - 15 Jan 2008 19:37 GMT > : Whereas silica is a natural mineral that the body needs. > > What is the solubility of silica at physiological pH? Good question.
> : Now before you go and ask me why would sand (silica) be a natural mineral, I > : will respond pre-emptively by saying that silica is presented as silica > : dioxide which is some sort of bonding between silica and oxygen -- see I do > : know some chemistry. > > Not enough to know the what the nature of that bonding is. http://www.timedomaincvd.com/CVD_Fundamentals/films/SiO2_properties.html
Let us examine this interesting material. SiO2 is formed by strong, directional covalent bonds, and has a well-defined local structure: four oxygen atoms are arrayed at the corners of a tetrahedron around a central silicon atom:
[The oxygen atoms are electronegative, and some of the silicon valence electron density is transferred to the oxygen neighbors, but it is incorrect to regard the material as a salt of a Si[+4] ion with O[-2] ions, as is sometimes seen in the literature: the directionality of the bonds is essential to the observed structures. ] The bond angles around O-Si-O are essentially the tetrahedral angle, 109 degrees; the Si-O distance is 1.61 A (0.16 nm) with very little variation. [The bond distance is slightly smaller than the sum of the conventional covalent "radii" of the atoms: Si (0.11 nm) + O(0.066 nm) = 0.18 nm. Thus we ought to show the atoms as slightly penetrating each other; the sphere size was shrunk in the diagram above for clarity.] It is the oxygen "bridge" bonds between silicon atoms that give SiO2 many of its unique properties. The bond angle Si-O-Si is nominally about 145 degrees, but can vary from about 100 to 170 degrees with very little change in bond energy. Furthermore, rotation of the bond about the axis is almost completely free.
[diagram]
A convenient way of summarizing these observations (known as the Zachariesen-Warren model for the structure of SiO2) is that the "tetrahedra" formed by the SiO4 groups must touch each other at their corners, but can do so at widely varying angles.
> : Silicon dioxide is presented in a form that is acceptable for nutritional > : needs and there have been studies done to show that silica can be ingested [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > do, I will stick with the conventional explanation, which has the benefit > of actually making sense. You will stick to the conventional explanation of what?
*** Silicon and Aluminum Toxicity Aluminum is a trace mineral that can be dangerous, even fatal, if excessive amounts are ingested. It has been found within the diseased brain cells of people with Alzheimer's disease. Aluminum is found in plant and animal foods, antacids, foil, deodorants, baking powder, and in tap water that has been purified with aluminum sulfate. Rats fed a diet low in calcium and silicon and high in aluminum accumulated high amounts of aluminum in the brain. Silicon supplements prevented the increase in aluminum concentration in the brain. So, in addition to bone and joint benefits, silicon supplementation reduces absorption of toxic aluminum.
Carole www.cellsalts.net
> ----- > Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > "Why is it so important that you want to contact the governments of our Earth?" > "Because of Death! Because all you of Earth are idiots!" D. C. Sessions - 16 Jan 2008 01:28 GMT >> In article <478ca61f$0$30853$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, > Carole <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Good question. Yes, it is. Perhaps you should answer it and apply the answer to the topic at hand.
>> : Now before you go and ask me why would sand (silica) be a natural mineral, I >> : will respond pre-emptively by saying that silica is presented as silica [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > formed by the SiO4 groups must touch each other at their corners, but can do > so at widely varying angles. Thereby proving that you can cut and paste. However, the point was whether you *understand* those words. Perhaps you could tell us in your own words what they mean?
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Carole - 16 Jan 2008 21:00 GMT > >> In article <478ca61f$0$30853$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, > > Carole <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Yes, it is. Perhaps you should answer it and apply the > answer to the topic at hand. Unfortunately, I can't find anything about "solubility of silica at physiological pH" on the internet and I don't know "physiological pH" means.
Carole www.cellsalts.net
D. C. Sessions - 17 Jan 2008 12:41 GMT > Unfortunately, I can't find anything about "solubility of silica at > physiological pH" on the internet and I don't know "physiological pH" means. Which in itself is rather telling.
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Carole - 18 Jan 2008 05:16 GMT > > Unfortunately, I can't find anything about "solubility of silica at > > physiological pH" on the internet and I don't know "physiological pH" means. > > Which in itself is rather telling. God, that was a rather pompous response. The science behind cellsalts has been proved over 100 years ago -- I don't need to justify it
Carole www.cellsalts.net
D. C. Sessions - 22 Jan 2008 19:45 GMT >> In message <478e707b$0$30855$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, > Carole wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The science behind cellsalts has been proved over 100 years ago -- I don't > need to justify it No, we're well-aware that you don't need any kind of proof for the things you believe. However, your inability to understand the question and its relevance is, indeed, a useful indicator for anyone reading your posts.
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Debbee - 23 Jan 2008 00:30 GMT > No, we're well-aware that you don't need any kind of proof for > the things you believe. However, your inability to understand > the question and its relevance is, indeed, a useful indicator > for anyone reading your posts. > > -- Speak for yourself, DC. "WE"--who is the we?
Carole, ignore them, they only have the script, and know what they are supposed to type. Take away the script, and they would be screwed.
Carole - 23 Jan 2008 10:19 GMT On Jan 22, 11:45 am, "D. C. Sessions" <d...@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
> No, we're well-aware that you don't need any kind of proof for > the things you believe. However, your inability to understand > the question and its relevance is, indeed, a useful indicator > for anyone reading your posts. > > -- Speak for yourself, DC. "WE"--who is the we?
Carole, ignore them, they only have the script, and know what they are supposed to type. Take away the script, and they would be screwed.
CH > Yes, you're probably right Deb. They probably have a little computer program which gives them the responses for different types of questions. And if its not in the program, they have a list of "experts" they can contact at short notice.
Carole www.cellsalts.net
D. C. Sessions - 23 Jan 2008 19:39 GMT > Yes, you're probably right Deb. They probably have a little computer > program which gives them the responses for different types of questions. It's called "Google."
> And > if its not in the program, they have a list of "experts" they can contact at > short notice. It's called a "Library."
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Carole - 23 Jan 2008 10:16 GMT > >> In message <478e707b$0$30855$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, > > Carole wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > the question and its relevance is, indeed, a useful indicator > for anyone reading your posts. Not really. I've explained that I am merely a user of cellsalts and talk about my own experience and how I understand it. Whereas conventional medicine on the other hand, uses medi-speak, science-speak and doesn't prove they know anything more about treating a condition that many lay people might. IOW, baffle with bullshit. People want answers which they don't get from conventional medicine, all they get is "management" and lifetime "treatment". You lot think you know it all, but you don't. You are just the blind leading the blind.
Carole www.cellsalts.net
> -- > | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | > | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. | > | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | > +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ D. C. Sessions - 23 Jan 2008 19:50 GMT >> No, we're well-aware that you don't need any kind of proof for >> the things you believe. However, your inability to understand [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Not really. I've explained that I am merely a user of cellsalts and talk > about my own experience and how I understand it. ... and how anyone who sees more in the world than you do is not only wrong but either a dupe or a servant of evil.
> Whereas conventional medicine on the other hand, uses medi-speak, > science-speak and doesn't prove they know anything more about treating a > condition that many lay people might. It's quite true that spouting a line of gibberish doesn't prove that you know what you're talking about (Cee being a good example.) On the other hand, the fact that someone doesn't understand what you're talking about doesn't mean that you're spouting nonsense, either.
Try visiting a horse ranch someday, Carole. Horse people have a language all their own, and it certainly sounds like gibberish to non horse people. You don't need all that nonsense about girth and withers and stirrups -- just put the saddle on and ride.
Try it. You might learn something.
> IOW, baffle with bullshit. People want answers which they don't get from > conventional medicine, all they get is "management" and lifetime > "treatment". Or cures. However, you seem to be saying that there are no intractable problems, that there's a simple easy solution to everything. I'm sure that's a very nice world to live in, but it doesn't match up with the one that the rest of us see every day.
It sounds like in your world, anyone could design computers and software if they wanted to bother to without study or making tradeoffs. Or airplanes. Or bridges. All of those are simpler than the human body, and the human body after all is a very simple thing that you can adjust to work perfectly without having to spend a long time learning how it works.
I'd suggest you start with paper airplanes. That way nobody gets hurt.
> You lot think you know it all, but you don't. You are just the blind leading > the blind. The key difference, Carole, whether you want to accept it or not, is that we *know* we don't know everything and are working continuously on chipping away at what we don't know. What's more, we *know* that some of what we do know is wrong, and have systems in place for weeding out those errors too. Are those efforts always successful? Of source not -- we're human. It's an imperfect universe.
The difference is that we have _accepted_ that we're imperfect actors in an imperfect universe, and are at least taking steps to deal with that reality. Look around on this board and try to find any examples where those attacking science (take your pick) are doing anything to correct their own errors -- or even admit that there might be any.
So tell me: what methods do you have for finding out what's wrong with your cellsalts beliefs, or are they perfect knowledge?
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Carole - 24 Jan 2008 20:32 GMT > >> No, we're well-aware that you don't need any kind of proof for > >> the things you believe. However, your inability to understand [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > that we *know* we don't know everything and are working continuously > on chipping away at what we don't know. You were doing alright until you got to this answer and I was just about to say "point taken" over many of your responses. However, when you that you don't know everything and are chipping away at what you don't know, its a joke. This is typical of conventional medicine thinking: * We haven't got the cures but we admit it (which is supposed to make them honest?) * Cures are just around the corner * We don't know what causes chronic ill health * Nutritional remedies don't work * The only cures are safe and efficacious pharmaceutical drugs.
> What's more, we *know* that > some of what we do know is wrong, and have systems in place for > weeding out those errors too. Are those efforts always successful? > Of source not -- we're human. It's an imperfect universe. The way to weed out errors would be to get rid of corruption in the pharmaceutical industry.
> The difference is that we have _accepted_ that we're imperfect actors > in an imperfect universe, and are at least taking steps to deal with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > So tell me: what methods do you have for finding out what's wrong with > your cellsalts beliefs, or are they perfect knowledge? I don't know how perfect the cellsalts method is. I read that the reason for every disease is a deficiency of one or more of the cellsalts, and it took me over 25 years to work out that athletes foot was a deficiency of cellsalts. I have just about run out of diseases to practice on myself with. I had a lot of different conditions, but they're all gone. I do have an ankle problem that flares up here and there, and a knee that plays up periodically -- so I'm working on them at the moment. I have practised on my dog a bit and cured some things the vet reckoned needed cortisone to fix, and a few other things. All I can say is that medicine is up sh.t creek when they prescribe drugs over treating deficiency symptoms. They think they're experts because they can put a name to a deficiency symptom and prescribe a drug.
Their hypocritic (excuse the spelling) oath says "first do no harm" which means treating deficiency symptoms first, then if there's still a problem deal with it -- which probably there wouldn't be a problem afterwards.
Carole www.cellsalts.net
> -- > | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | > | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. | > | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | > +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ Richard Schultz - 16 Jan 2008 05:10 GMT :> In article <478ca61f$0$30853$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, : Carole <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote:
:> : Whereas silica is a natural mineral that the body needs. :> :> What is the solubility of silica at physiological pH? : : Good question. And one for which you do not know the answer, despite the importance of said answer to your theory of silica deficiency.
: Let us examine this interesting material. SiO2 is formed by strong, : directional covalent bonds, and has a well-defined local structure: four : oxygen atoms are arrayed at the corners of a tetrahedron around a central : silicon atom: Now explain, IN YOUR OWN WORDS, what a "covalent bond" is, and why your own admission that SiO2 is covalently bound demonstrates that it is not a salt.
:> : Silica is known as a deep cleansing cellsalts, that breaks up :> : accumulations of pathological substances that have arrived in the :> : body at a certain point but which aren't needed for any :> : functional purposes.
:> By what process does silica "break up" these mysterious "pathological :> substances"? Note that this question was not answered.
:> Underarm odor is not an indication of silica deficiency; at least, you :> have yet to present us with any evidence that it is, and until such time :> as you do, I will stick with the conventional explanation, which has :> the benefit of actually making sense. : : You will stick to the conventional explanation of what? The conventional explanation of what causes body odor.
: Silicon and Aluminum Toxicity : Aluminum is a trace mineral that can be dangerous, even fatal, if excessive [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : in the brain. So, in addition to bone and joint benefits, silicon : supplementation reduces absorption of toxic aluminum. What is the source for this claim? How do you know that silicon is more effective than calcium?
----- Richard Schultz schultr@mail.biu.ac.il Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University ----- "Gentlemen, Ciccolini here may look like an idiot, and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you -- he really is an idiot."
D. C. Sessions - 16 Jan 2008 01:19 GMT > Underarm odor is not an indication of silica deficiency; at least, you have > yet to present us with any evidence that it is, and until such time as you > do, I will stick with the conventional explanation, which has the benefit > of actually making sense. You mean, that underarm odor is actually the result of beneficial processes (notably sex hormone metabolism) and normal skin flora?
I wonder if Carole has a cellsalt cure for female body hair?
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Debbee - 16 Jan 2008 03:51 GMT > I wonder if Carole has a cellsalt cure for female body hair? > > -- Why, do you need to get some? <smile>.....
Carole - 15 Jan 2008 19:40 GMT > Tinnitis is often characterised by a ringing in the ears, which can become > distracting once the noise rises to a certain level which can become [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Carole > www.cellsalts.net During my research on silicon dioxide (SiO2) I discovered that silicon is used in cholesterol lowering remedies and is considered useful for hair loss and male pattern baldness.
Carole www.cellsalts.net
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