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New "Generation Rx" Documentary Exposes Mass Betrayal of Children by FDA, Big Pharma

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Jan Drew - 12 Jan 2008 23:08 GMT
NewsTarget.com printable article
Originally published January 8 2008
Kevin Miller's New "Generation Rx" Documentary Exposes Mass Betrayal of
Children by FDA, Big Pharma
by Mike Adams

(NewsTarget) A new documentary on the dangers of mind-altering drugs will be
arriving this year, and the film's creator Kevin Miller was kind enough to
send us an advance copy of the film for review. Not many films have the
potential to radically reshape the understanding of an entire nation and
create positive change for the health of future generations, but this is one
that clearly qualifies. "Generation Rx" delivers a devastating blow to the
psychiatric drug pushers, FDA puppets and Big Pharma marketing fraudsters
who have sold an entire nation on an absurd idea that turns out to be a
grand medical hoax: that millions of children have "chemical imbalances" in
their brains requiring treatment with patented, profitable pharmaceutical
drugs like Prozac and Ritalin.

The film features interviews with many notable doctors, authors and health
experts, including Dr. Julian Whitaker, Dr. Fred Baughman, Robert Whitaker
(author of Mad In America: Bad Science, Bad Medicine, and The Enduring
Mistreatment of the Mentally Ill) and many others. Through the
emotionally-charged personal testimonies of parents whose children have
committed suicide on Prozac, along with secret memos from the drug
companies' own top executives, Generation Rx weaves a terrifying tale of
criminal conspiracy, the mass abandonment of medical ethics, and the routine
betrayal of an entire generation by an industry that seems fixated on the
idea of profits at any cost.

The evidence presented in Generation Rx is damning. By the time you finish
chapter three of the film (which contains the most jaw-dropping revelations
of FDA corruption and scientific fraud), you'll cry out for the criminal
prosecutions of key FDA decision makers, Big Pharma executives and the
authors of the DSM-IV, the "bible" of modern psychiatry. Fifty-six percent
of the panel members who created the DSM-IV are on the take from drug
companies, pocketing cash, bribes, royalty payments or other fees from the
very same companies that profit from the mass marketing of "brain chemistry
diseases." (Be sure to visit my interactive Disease Mongering Engine to
invent your own fictitious brain chemistry diseases right now, just like the
drug companies do!)

Evidence of criminal conspiracy
Generation Rx reveals startling evidence detailing the criminal negligence
of the FDA. The highly corrupt Food and Drug Administration didn't
"accidentally" approve psychotropic drugs that just happened to kill
children, you see: The administration knew that SSRI drugs (antidepressants)
were killing children for well over ten years! The FDA then went out of its
way to bury the evidence, colluding with prominent drug companies to hide
key documents while hastening the approval of dangerous drugs and keeping
the public ignorant of the true risks from consuming them.

Kevin Miller's Generation Rx covers all this (and more) in heart-wrenching
detail. You'll see the remarkably lucid explanations and warnings by the
scientifically-minded Robert Whitaker (who used to be a skeptic that Big
Pharma money could possibly influence science), pleas for medical sanity by
Dr. Julian Whitaker, and even home movie footage of young girls who later
killed themselves while on Prozac. You'll walk away from this film shaking
your head in disgust, asking "How did it come to this?"

Or, more precisely, how did modern psychiatric medicine come to the point
where it's all just a grand marketing scam designed to generate obscene
profits by exploiting the minds and bodies of an entire generation of
children? How did Big Pharma manage to so completely hijack medical science,
taking over the medical journals, FDA regulators, science researchers and
medical schools? And why hasn't this been stopped? Why have these chemical
crimes against children continued to be tolerated -- even encouraged! -- by
the Food and Drug Administration and a Big Pharm-funded U.S. Congress? (Note
of hope: There is one peer-reviewed medical journal that remains honest and
publishes good medical science: PLoS Medicine, an open-source journal that
accepts no advertising from drug companies...)

The simple truth, as the film reveals, is that money buys everything in this
modern economy. It buys media coverage, it buys distorted science, it buys
legislation, and it even buys the very definitions of disease. Big Pharma
money has so completely infiltrated modern psychiatric medicine that any
person claiming diseases like ADHD or "bipolar disorder" are based on solid
science should be laughed off the world stage. Modern psychiatric medicine
is an empty sham, a medical hoax, an uninspired contrivance of
scientific-sounding babblydeegook designed to mesmerize gullible parents
into putting their children on dangerous patented chemicals that may
ultimately kill them.

Even the psychiatric scientists who voted these fictitious diseases (like
"ADHD") into existence have no idea what they really are. At one point in
Generation Rx, a psychiatrist is asked to offer a clear definition of ADHD.
His answer? A 45-second fumbling of words, hesitations and stammering
nonsense of such stupidity that it makes you wonder if the psychiatrist is,
himself, on crack! Nowhere in his answer does he offer anything resembling
rational thought.

Generation Rx is full of shocking little gems like this. Even if you already
know the real story about the quackery of modern psychiatric medicine, this
film delivers a jaw-dropping emotional ride through the corruption, deceit
and downright psychotic behavior of an entire industry. A couple of
CounterThink cartoons (by yours truly) also make the film, detailing FDA
corruption, Big Pharma's junk science and the grand hoax of modern
psychiatry.

(See my most recent CounterThink cartoon, just released today: Fidozac, the
antidepressant drug for dogs!)

Only occasionally does the film retreat from its pressure-cooker drama.
Chapter Three offers a series of personal testimonies on Prozac that goes on
way too long, for example, but the timing of the film is likely to be
tightened up before its final release.

We'll keep you posted on the film's release
Generation Rx won't be available for public release until later this year.
NewsTarget will be running exclusive clips from the film, and we'll be
covering the film's launch and availability. We don't yet know the price of
the DVD or where to purchase it, but as soon as this information is made
available to us, we'll pass it along to you. (I'll also be asking if it's
available in PAL format for our European readers.) We hope to get our hands
on some clips that we'll post on YouTube.

Generation Rx is already on the top of my list of Best Films in 2008, and
it's almost certain to stay there. (Other films to look forward to this year
include All Jacked Up as well as one tentatively titled, "Junk Food, Inc.")
Generation Rx is a must-see documentary that reveals the true depth of
criminality and fraud in modern psychiatric medicine. It calls for an end to
the mass drugging of our schoolchildren and wholesale reforms of the entire
corrupt system of pharmaceutical development and marketing.

With this film, courageous filmmaker Kevin Miller has catapulted a giant
boulder of truth into the scum-filled pond waters of modern psychiatry,
sending out a shockwave of ripples that threaten to finally expose this
malicious branch of medicine that depends for its very survival on the
chemical poisoning of childrens' brains. I give this film my enthusiastic
support, and I urge every parent, lawmaker and doctor to view it. Society
owes Kevin Miller a great honor for creating this documentary -- an honor he
is unlikely to ever receive, given the mass drugging of the population with
the very same mind-altering drugs being exposed in this documentary.

Watch for updates and exclusive video clips of Generation Rx throughout
2008, right here on NewsTarget.com

Note to other filmmakers: I am available to both participate in and review
other documentary films that contain important messages about health. There
is no fee to have your film reviewed here. If I promote your film, I do not
ask for any promotional fees or kickbacks of any kind. My articles, cartoons
and other creations are readily available for use, without any fee, in your
films or books (contact us for permission and release forms). I will be
appearing prominently in the upcoming All Jacked Up film by Faerie Films, as
well as other documentaries by non-profit groups, and I welcome the
opportunity to participate in your documentary. If you are a filmmaker or
producer, contact our offices by phone at (520) 232-9300 to obtain
permissions, schedule interviews or send us films for review. We will sign
NDAs and honor announcement embargoes. We can help make your film a
tremendous success while educating millions about health freedom and natural
health.

http://www.newstarget.com/z022474.html
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 09 Feb 2008 07:12 GMT
This has the potential of being a million times bigger than "Sicko!"

I predict that this film, which WILL win many awards including an
Academy for Best Picture of the Decade, will finally put an end to the
phoniest of the spin-dromes: ADD and ADHD.

Almost ever member here will rejoice that absolutely nothing was wrong
with them, which we knew all along.

Thank you so much for this Jan, I am sure it lifted the spirits and
hearts of the many readers who saw this, I know it did mine.

More and more parents are finally waking up and just saying NO to the
force-feeding of strong zombie-like drugs that turn their children
into brain-dead automatons.

Thank you again, this will be a real eye-opener for  a lot of honest,
decent people!

> NewsTarget.com printable article
> Originally published January 8 2008
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>
> http://www.newstarget.com/z022474.html
Kevysmom - 09 Feb 2008 15:21 GMT
> This has the potential of being a million times bigger than "Sicko!"

It sure does!! One thing that really disappointed me in Mr Moores
documentary is he didn't
spend enough time exposing Pharma.

On Feb 9, 2:12 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> This has the potential of being a million times bigger than "Sicko!"
>
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The One True Zhen Jue - 09 Feb 2008 15:31 GMT
> > This has the potential of being a million times bigger than "Sicko!"
>
> It sure does!! One thing that really disappointed me in Mr Moores
> documentary is he didn't
> spend enough time exposing Pharma.

He's far too busy lying & gorging himself to expose anything other
than himself as a hypocrit.
That makes him very popular to self-loathing, scientifically
illiterate illiterates.  (That's you and your ilk, Donna, in case
you're sense of denial has keep you from that realization)
Kevysmom - 09 Feb 2008 15:34 GMT
Wow, Andrew is in attack mode this morning!  Isn't there some kind of
DRUG you can take to control these hateful outburst? :o)

On Feb 9, 10:31 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> > > This has the potential of being a million times bigger than "Sicko!"
>
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> illiterate illiterates.  (That's you and your ilk, Donna, in case
> you're sense of denial has keep you from that realization)
Mark Probert - 09 Feb 2008 16:35 GMT
> Wow, Andrew is in attack mode this morning!  Isn't there some kind of
> DRUG you can take to control these hateful outburst? :o)

That proves you are a jerk.

> On Feb 9, 10:31 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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Jan Drew - 11 Feb 2008 03:25 GMT
On Feb 9, 10:34 am, Kevysmom <bluebun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, Andrew is in attack mode this morning! Isn't there some kind of
> DRUG you can take to control these hateful outburst? :o)

That proves you are a jerk.

Says the dishonest disbarred jerk.

M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t 07-10...@lymbercartel.com

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/c1efd889a7678735

That _IS_ topical and worthy of discussion.  Stick with the topic,
that works for you & us.
The One True Zhen Jue - 09 Feb 2008 16:47 GMT
> Wow, Andrew is in attack mode this morning!  Isn't there some kind of
> DRUG you can take to control these hateful outburst? :o)

Projection ill becomes you, Donna.  You've been told many times that
your prejudices are not only morally reprehensible, their consequences
are even worse.
You'd have vaccination stopped and pediatricians punished for giving
them.  You've been told the facts, yet you'd still act-out on your
prejudices when you know it would kill and injure millions of children
annually.

Yes, your depraved attituded toward children is hateful and it does
engender righteous outrage.

> On Feb 9, 10:31 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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Jan Drew - 11 Feb 2008 03:27 GMT
<Andrew_Kingoff@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/c1efd889a7678735

That _IS_ topical and worthy of discussion.  Stick with the topic,
that works for you & us.

On Feb 9, 10:34 am, Kevysmom <bluebun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, Andrew is in attack mode this morning! Isn't there some kind of
> DRUG you can take to control these hateful outburst? :o)
Mark Probert - 09 Feb 2008 16:35 GMT
> > This has the potential of being a million times bigger than "Sicko!"
>
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>
> On Feb 9, 2:12 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."

Donna, do you know that you are agreeing with the biggest a.shole on
usenet?
Jan Drew - 11 Feb 2008 03:32 GMT
On Feb 9, 10:21 am, Kevysmom <bluebun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This has the potential of being a million times bigger than "Sicko!"
>
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>
> On Feb 9, 2:12 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."

Donna, do you know that you are agreeing with the biggest a.shole on
usenet?

Groups    View all web results »    Results 1 - 10 of about 1,040 for Mark
Probert a.shole
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 10 Feb 2008 11:59 GMT
> > This has the potential of being a million times bigger than "Sicko!"
>
> It sure does!! One thing that really disappointed me in Mr Moores
> documentary is he didn't
> spend enough time exposing Pharma.

Great point, the Pfizer's and the Merck's of the world NEED to be
exposed!

This film will quite the spsychiatrists and their friends in the
Psychiatric-Medical-Industrial-Complex.

By he way, there are a few "nutcases" and "crack-pos" on these
newsgroups that may attack my posts, because over the years they have
been proven to be highly accurate, well documented from verifiable
source material.

We humor these "useful idiots" because they are desperate in holding
onto their delusions.  We encourage the most obnoxious of those to
commit themselves to a mental-health facility, for their own good.  In
fact, some of them have taken this advice and they are better for
it!!

Thanks for the notice, let us support this film and expose the
criminals in white lab coats!
Mark Probert - 10 Feb 2008 17:20 GMT
On Feb 10, 6:59 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> > > This has the potential of being a million times bigger than "Sicko!"
>
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> Great point, the Pfizer's and the Merck's of the world NEED to be
> exposed!

Like you were exposed as portraying yourself as a phoney doctor on
USenet?
     Boom! One ISP kicked you off for that activity.

Like you were exposed for plagiarizing and altering an article by the
Washington Post?
     Boom! Another ISP kicked you off.

Like you were exposed for being a deadbeat who did not pay his ISP
charges?
    Boom! A third ISP kicked you off!

Like you were exposed as not being representative of the humjan race?
    Boom! YOur alien friends returned you since you did not meet
their standards.

> This film will quite the spsychiatrists and their friends in the
> Psychiatric-Medical-Industrial-Complex.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> been proven to be highly accurate, well documented from verifiable
> source material.

None of your posts have ever been proven to be above the level of
crap. You were the one who mocked a seriously ill woman who was
threatening suicide. Fortunately, someone with ethics and morality
located her in time for the police to save her.

> We

"We"?? You mean YOU.

humor these "useful idiots" because they are desperate in holding
> onto their delusions.  We encourage the most obnoxious of those to
> commit themselves to a mental-health facility, for their own good.  In
> fact, some of them have taken this advice and they are better for
> it!!

No one has ever been better for taking your advice.

> Thanks for the notice, let us support this film and expose the
> criminals in white lab coats!
Jan Drew - 11 Feb 2008 03:37 GMT
> you did not meet their standards.

Like the so-called standards of Mark S Probert...

In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.

92-02731

SUPREME COURT OF NEW YORK, APPELLATE DIVISION, SECOND DEPARTMENT

183 A.D.2d 282; 590 N.Y.S.2d 747

November 9, 1992, Decided

PRIOR HISTORY:   [***1]

Disciplinary proceedings instituted by the Grievance Committee for the
Tenth Judicial District. Respondent was admitted to the Bar on
February 15, 1978, at a term of the Appellate Division of the Supreme
Court in the Second Judicial Department, under the name Mark S.
Probert.

DISPOSITION: Ordered that the petitioner's motion to impose discipline
upon the respondent based upon his failure to appear or answer is
granted; and it is further,

HEADNOTES: Attorney and Client - Disciplinary Proceedings

Respondent attorney, who is charged with 22 counts of failing to
cooperate with investigations of alleged misconduct by the Grievance
Committee, and who has failed to answer or appear, is disbarred.

COUNSEL:

Frank A. Finnerty, Jr., Westbury (Muriel L. Gennosa of counsel), for
petitioner.

JUDGES: Mangano, P. J., Thompson, Bracken, Sullivan and Harwood, JJ.,
concur.

Ordered that the petitioner's motion to impose discipline upon the
respondent based upon his failure to appear or answer is granted; and
it is further,

Ordered that pursuant to Judiciary Law § 90, effective immediately,
the respondent, Mark Probert, is disbarred and his name is stricken
from the roll of attorneys and counselors-at-law; and it is further,

Ordered that the respondent shall continue to comply with this Court's
rules governing the conduct of disbarred, suspended and resigned
attorneys (22 NYCRR 691.10); and it is further,

Ordered that pursuant to Judiciary [***2]  Law § 90, the respondent,
Mark Probert, is commanded to continue to desist and refrain (1) from
practicing law in any form, either as principal or as agent, clerk or
employee of another, (2) from appearing as an attorney or
counselor-at-law before any court, Judge, Justice, board, commission
or other public authority, (3) from giving to another an opinion as to
the law or its application or any advice in relation thereto, and (4)
from holding himself out in any way as an attorney and
counselor-at-law.

OPINIONBY: Per Curiam.

OPINION:  [*282]

[**747]  By decision and order of this Court dated September 29,
1989, the respondent was suspended from the practice of law until the
further order of this Court based upon his failure to cooperate with
the Grievance Committee. By further order of this Court dated June 4,
1992, the Grievance Committee was authorized to institute and
prosecute a disciplinary proceeding  [*283]  against the respondent
and the Honorable Moses M. Weinstein was appointed as Special Referee.

[**748]  A notice of petition and petition was personally served upon
the respondent on July 2, 1992. No answer was forthcoming. The
petitioner now moves to hold the [***3]  respondent in default. The
motion was personally served upon the respondent on August 14, 1992.
The respondent has failed to submit any papers in response to the
default motion.

The charges involve 22 counts of the respondent's failure to cooperate
with the Grievance Committee in its investigations into complaints of
professional misconduct.

The charges, if established, would require the imposition of a
disciplinary sanction against the respondent. Since the respondent has
chosen not to appear or answer in these proceedings, the charges must
be deemed established. The petitioner's motion to hold the respondent
in default and impose discipline is, therefore, granted. Accordingly,
the respondent is disbarred and his name is stricken from the roll of
attorneys and counselors-at-law, effective immediately

Source:

NY UNIFIED COURT SYSTEM, ATTORNEY REGIST. UNIT

Currency Status:

ARCHIVE RECORD

NAME & PROFESSIONAL INFORMATION

Name:

MARK PROBERT

Date Of Birth:

11/XX/1946

Gender:

MALE

Address:

1698 WEBSTER AVE

MERRICK, NY 11566

County:

NASSAU

Phone:

516-968-5572

EMPLOYER INFORMATION

Employer:

MARK S PROBERT ESQ

Organization:

PERSON

LICENSING INFORMATION

Licensing Agency:

NY STATE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION

License/Certification Type:

ATTORNEY

License Number:

1253889

Issue Date:

00/00/1978

License Status:

DISBARRED

License State:

NY

From:  Mark Probert - view profile
Date:  Sun, Feb 11 2001 4:17 pm
Email:   Mark Probert <markpr...@my-deja.com>
Groups:   k12.chat.teacher

Noah has had one since 11/26/96 (my birthday).
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 11 Feb 2008 06:36 GMT
> On Feb 10, 6:59�am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
> <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
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>      Boom! YOur alien friends returned you since you did not meet
> their standards.

Proby, even using the Hitlerian-Nixonian gambit of by repeating a lie
often enough it becomes the truth, won't make make-believe into
truth.  But if you get a thrill in posting nonsense, since this is a
"support" group, I support you if you feel it helps your delusions.

> > This film will quite the spsychiatrists and their friends in the
> > Psychiatric-Medical-Industrial-Complex.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> threatening suicide. Fortunately, someone with ethics and morality
> located her in time for the police to save her.

Demonstrably wrong, but you are used to that, aren't you.

I stand by the FACTS, all my posts are well sourced, with footnotes
and documentation.  That is how I can prove everything that I have
ever posted, and will post is 100% accurate.  Your cult hates things
like facts.  In fact, Pres. Raygun once said facts are stupid things.
I guess he would have known!!

> > We
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> No one has ever been better for taking your advice.

Flat-out false.  Here's some good advice for you, stay off these
newsgroups and leave them to the experts, such as Jan and myself.  We
are cleaning up these groups and getting rid of the trolls,
disruptors, dupes, agitators, menaces and lunatics.

Proby, best of the luck in the future.  Rest assured that these
medical groups will be in good hands with Jan and myself.  I'd love to
say it was nice having you, and maybe in the future we will, but not
today.

> > Thanks for the notice, let us support this film and expose the
> > criminals in white lab coats!
Mark Probert - 11 Feb 2008 12:22 GMT
On Feb 11, 1:36 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 10, 6:59�am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
> > <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> often enough it becomes the truth, won't make make-believe into
> truth.

Listen, every point I made is, and YOU KNOW it, well documented in the
Usenet archives.

But if you get a thrill in posting nonsense, since this is a
> "support" group, I support you if you feel it helps your delusions.

Yes, your behavior is nonsense.

> > > This film will quite the spsychiatrists and their friends in the
> > > Psychiatric-Medical-Industrial-Complex.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Demonstrably wrong, but you are used to that, aren't you.

Like I said, wel documented.

> I stand by the FACTS,

You can stand, sit, lay down, but you would not know a fact if it bit
you on your a.s.

all my posts are well sourced, with footnotes
> and documentation.

All? The ones in this thread are not, thus, you just proved you are a
liar.

That is how I can prove everything that I have
> ever posted, and will post is 100% accurate.  Your cult hates things
> like facts.  In fact, Pres. Raygun once said facts are stupid things.
> I guess he would have known!!

You have an aversion to facts and morality.

> > > We
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> > > Thanks for the notice, let us support this film and expose the
> > > criminals in white lab coats!
WWWSC #2 - 11 Feb 2008 13:12 GMT
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:

>I stand by the FACTS, all my posts are well sourced, with footnotes
>and documentation.

Huh?  Not once, ever, have there been any sources, footnotes or
documentation attached to any of your driveling rants, mainly because
they're pulled right out of your sorry a.s.  
Signature

Proud member WWWSC #2
Formerly known as Ann

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 11 Feb 2008 16:57 GMT
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> documentation attached to any of your driveling rants, mainly because
> they're pulled right out of your sorry a.s.

Ann, Another one that has a thing about "behinds!"  This newsgrope is
really getting to be a bit kinky!

Ann, you can trust my posts to be totally accurate and precise in the
gathering of the most relevant and timely data.

Just because you may disagree over one minor point here or there, does
not mean you have to disregard the main message.

I know deep down that you welcome posts like mine and Jan, because we
are right and can prove it!

Take care,

sir ArtiØ

--
> Proud member WWWSC #2
> Formerly known as Ann
David Wright - 03 Mar 2008 04:07 GMT
>> On Feb 10, 6:59�am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>> <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>truth.  But if you get a thrill in posting nonsense, since this is a
>"support" group, I support you if you feel it helps your delusions.

No, that's your tactic -- you know, repeatedly claiming that you have
a research institute, that you're some sort of authority on ADD, that
kind of thing.  All completely false, of course.

>> > This film will quite the spsychiatrists and their friends in the
>> > Psychiatric-Medical-Industrial-Complex.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>and documentation.  That is how I can prove everything that I have
>ever posted, and will post is 100% accurate.

None of your posts are sourced or have footnotes.  Perhaps you should
consult someone about these delusions of yours.

>Your cult hates things
>like facts.  In fact, Pres. Raygun once said facts are stupid things.
>I guess he would have known!!

Of course, Reagan just misspoke; he had intended to say "facts are
stubborn things."

Not that I'm any fan of Reagan.  But facts are stubborn things.  Facts
like "Sir Artie" is a complete fraud who's also posted under many
other aliases, has pretended to be a doctor, etc.

>> > We
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>are cleaning up these groups and getting rid of the trolls,
>disruptors, dupes, agitators, menaces and lunatics.

You are not in a position to change the posters to newsgroups in any
way and could not clean up a sink without screwing it up.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 03 Mar 2008 07:46 GMT
Wright, As you well know, as a rule I do not respond to those posts
that are totally 100% nonsense, like yours for instance.  But some
innocent newbies might mistake your scribbles as reasonable, which
they aren't.  Not only that, they are a very thin disguise for your
utter lack of knowledge on this and other related subjects.  I have
studied, in great detail, the MYTH of ADD/ADHD for many a decade.
Now that this phony SPIN-drome has been exposed, you and your brain-
washed cult areepping up their assult on honest and scientific
researchers, such as myself.  This cannot stand in a democratic
society.  Not only are we winning the War for Proper Mental Health, we
are have also and will continue to expose the greed-mongers who profit
off  of this phony diagnosis.  Now move along and leave these groups
to Jan and myself.  And take those porno-writers, totalitarian control
freaks, disbarred lawyers and fear-mongers with you, they have no
business here.

Good day to you Wright!

Sir artiO

> In article <0cc80e65-0618-4530-8716-8500ee35c...@b2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
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>
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WWWSC #2 - 03 Mar 2008 11:16 GMT
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:

>Wright, As you well know, as a rule I do not respond to those posts

Bullshit, you respond to every single one.

> I have
>studied, in great detail, the MYTH of ADD/ADHD for many a decade.

You've studied the back of a Comet can.
Signature

Proud member WWWSC #2
Formerly known as Ann

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 03 Mar 2008 15:29 GMT
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> expounded:
>
> >Wright, As you well know, as a rule I do not respond to those posts
>
> Bullshit,

Now that is something you are an expert at.

you respond to every single one.

> > I have
> >studied, in great detail, the MYTH of ADD/ADHD for many a decade.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Proud member WWWSC #2
> Formerly known as Ann
Mark Probert - 03 Mar 2008 12:10 GMT
On Mar 3, 2:46 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> Wright, As you well know, as a rule I do not respond to those posts
> that are totally 100% nonsense, like yours for instance.  But some
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> freaks, disbarred lawyers and fear-mongers with you, they have no
> business here.

Everything ever posted about you is well documented in the Google
Archives.

Suffice it to say, your perfidy and evil ways are known.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 03 Mar 2008 15:29 GMT
Proby,  Your dodge and weave tactics have failed, the facts remain
that this film, (remember the thread,) will once again discredit what
is left of your rag-tag cult and it's desperate push to mislead people
down the wrong path!
Jan Drew has ripped you a new one so many times, there is no question
what you spew is waste.

Sir ArtiO
> On Mar 3, 2:46 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>
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>
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Frank - 04 Mar 2008 01:29 GMT
Proby,  Your dodge and weave tactics have failed, the facts remain
that this film, (remember the thread,) will once again discredit what
is left of your rag-tag cult and it's desperate push to mislead people
down the wrong path!
Jan Drew has ripped you a new one so many times, there is no question
what you spew is waste.

Sir ArtiO
=======================================
It's certain you never did, and also certain you're nothing but a lap
dog who hides behind skirts.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 04 Mar 2008 02:30 GMT
Demonstrably false, "Frank" - but you knew that!!

> Proby,  Your dodge and weave tactics have failed, the facts remain
> that this film, (remember the thread,) will once again discredit what
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> It's certain you never did, and also certain you're nothing but a lap
> dog who hides behind skirts.
Frank - 04 Mar 2008 02:36 GMT
Demonstrably false, "Frank" - but you knew that!!

Wrong, queer boy, but we all knew that.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 04 Mar 2008 05:29 GMT
There is no need to feel bad about your sexual orientation, that is
your thing and does not apply to this newsgroup.  And being gay does
not cause ADD/ADHD, if they even existed.  I don't know where you are
going with that, but the Cult of KooKs sure have surfaced.  First Stan
than Frank -- hoo boy!

> Demonstrably false, "Frank" - but you knew that!!
>
> Wrong, queer boy, but we all knew that.
Frank - 04 Mar 2008 06:11 GMT
There is no need to feel bad about your sexual orientation, that is
your thing and does not apply to this newsgroup.  And being gay does
not cause ADD/ADHD, if they even existed.  I don't know where you are
going with that, but the Cult of KooKs sure have surfaced.  First Stan
than Frank -- hoo boy!
======================================
Of course not queer boy, I'm never ashamed of being Hetro, it is just a
fact of like that I feel comfortable. I never said your queerness had
anything to do with ADD nor ADHD. I just enjoyed outing your sorry bum,

Play your silly gurlish games, no problem, you'll just be seen as a
hypocrite for mucking up the group with your nonsense.

Also, if you are so concerned about the group then why are you and Jan
always insisting upon spamming your happy HS across the Usenet to
unrelated ng's?

Just goes to show your hypocrisy, and Jan's.

On Mar 3, 9:36 pm, "Frank" <dawgf...@ten.hut> wrote:
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in
> messagenews:2cb96a0f-a252-496d-a068-eb0a7eef3e46@e31g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Demonstrably false, "Frank" - but you knew that!!
>
> Wrong, queer boy, but we all knew that.
markprobert@lumbercartel.com - 04 Mar 2008 13:30 GMT
> Proby,  Your dodge and weave tactics have failed, the facts remain
> that this film, (remember the thread,) will once again discredit what
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> It's certain you never did, and also certain you're nothing but a lap
> dog who hides behind skirts.

Do not insult lap dogs.
David Wright - 05 Mar 2008 04:30 GMT
>Wright, As you well know, as a rule I do not respond to those posts
>that are totally 100% nonsense, like yours for instance.

Fake expert, you respond to every single one of my posts, and you'll
respond to this one, too.  You can't help yourself.  It's all part of
your pathology, like pretending to be a doctor, or pretending you have
a research institute, or pretending you know anything at all about
ADD/ADHD.

>But some innocent newbies might mistake your scribbles as reasonable,
>which they aren't.  Not only that, they are a very thin disguise for
>your utter lack of knowledge on this and other related subjects.  I
>have studied, in great detail, the MYTH of ADD/ADHD for many a
>decade.

You've never studied them at all and haven't even been involved in
this whole area that long.

>Now that this phony SPIN-drome has been exposed, you and your brain-
>washed cult areepping up their assult on honest and scientific
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>off  of this phony diagnosis.  Now move along and leave these groups
>to Jan and myself.

That would be ironic, if you and Jan were the only ones left.  But I
daresay that the readership who are in search of actual information
have long since killfiled your fraudulent self (and if you haven't,
readers, you really should).

>And take those porno-writers, totalitarian control
>freaks, disbarred lawyers and fear-mongers with you, they have no
>business here.

No, frauds like you have no business here.

>Good day to you Wright!
>
>Sir artiO

Your phoney name in addition to everything else.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher

>> In article <0cc80e65-0618-4530-8716-8500ee35c...@b2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>>
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>> You are not in a position to change the posters to newsgroups in any
>> way and could not clean up a sink without screwing it up.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 06 Mar 2008 05:10 GMT
Wright,  You are under some incredible illusion and delusion that you
have any informative knowledge on these subjects, you are only kidding
yourself and others who WANT to believe in this myth.

I don't have the time or inclination to answer any of your wrong-
headed accusations, except to dismiss them as any concerned person
would.

Now let's get down to the real business of mental-health, and leave
that to the pros like myself, Ilena and Jan.
We care.

Sir ArtiO

> In article <5f323f2f-b1ab-4093-8c3b-44ef90eac...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
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>
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David Wright - 06 Mar 2008 05:27 GMT
>Wright,  You are under some incredible illusion and delusion that you
>have any informative knowledge on these subjects, you are only kidding
>yourself and others who WANT to believe in this myth.

Like I said, FArtie, you can't resist responding to me and you'll do
it every time.

>I don't have the time or inclination to answer any of your wrong-
>headed accusations, except to dismiss them as any concerned person
>would.

No, you dismiss them because they're true and they show you for the
hoaxer you are.

>Now let's get down to the real business of mental-health, and leave
>that to the pros like myself, Ilena and Jan.

You're not pros -- you're inmates.  When it comes to mental health,
you're exhibit A (as a bad example, that is).

>We care.

You care about getting better?  That's good.  Now keep taking your
meds and going to group and maybe someday you'll make it.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher

>Sir ArtiO
>
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Mark Probert - 06 Mar 2008 12:13 GMT
On Mar 6, 12:10 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> Wright,  You are under some incredible illusion and delusion that you
> have any informative knowledge on these subjects, you are only kidding
> yourself and others who WANT to believe in this myth.
>
> I don't have the time or inclination

or the intelligence

to answer any of your wrong-
> headed accusations, except to dismiss them as any concerned person
> would.

You have never answered any question. You just rant and rave.

> Now let's get down to the real business of mental-health,

In that business, you are a stranger in a strange land.

and leave
> that to the pros like myself, xxxxx`and xxx.
> We care.

Like the time you ridiculed a suicidal woman who was only saved
because someone who really cared was able to contact the police?

> Sir ArtiO

fArtie, you di dnot spell your name correctly. You left off the Zero,
which reflects your IQ
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 08 Mar 2008 06:26 GMT
Proby,  Just because you can make up a myth and keep repeating it,
still does not make it true.  Furthermore, the fact remains in that
the only time you have made any sense on this newsgroup was when you
had just spent some "quality" time at a mental-health clinic.  Some of
us jokingly refer to it as the “insane asylum”, it your case, if the
shoe fits!!!

Now Mr. Wright is a whole other matter.  Most people already know you
are a genuine 100% crack-pot and the way you let yourself be decimated
by Jan still staggers the imagination of the readers here.  But Wright
actually takes himself seriously.  Unlike you, he may actually BELIEVE
his outright fabrications.  But it takes no more than a quick read to
see that Wright is on the same lamentable level that you are.   I
almost pity Wright, he is too far gone to understand that his
corporate “agenda” is anti-people, anti mental-health and pro-med.
This too will fail with the efforts of the Pro-Democracy Folks like
Jan, Ilena and myself.  That’s FYI!

Good luck Proby, perhaps we'll see you after your "treatment" !!

> On Mar 6, 12:10�am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
> <scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
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> fArtie, you di dnot spell your name correctly. You left off the Zero,
> which reflects your IQ
WWWSC #2 - 08 Mar 2008 13:11 GMT
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:

>Just because you can make up a myth and keep repeating it,
>still does not make it true.

True for everyone, fArt, including you.

Then again, you're not repeating myths, you're repeating your own lies
and total fabrications.
Signature

Proud member WWWSC #2
Formerly known as Ann

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 08 Mar 2008 15:19 GMT
Ann; I have tried to reason with you, but to no avail.

We sure have come afar from the original post, and that's a shame.

But our side, the side of honest research, will not be bullied,
intimidated or demoralized by the actions of Ann or the other members
of her cult.  We will try to reason with them, but so far, that has
been a very challenging proposition!

Dear Readers, notice how the kooky Cult never addresses the well-
documented facts that Jan, Ilena and myself document.  And their
little game of accusing us of not stating the evidence.  This is why
they are on the rampage of trying to censor us.  This is a direct
attack on all people who cherish freedom, liberty, peace and truth.
They must not prevail or else ALL MANKIND will perish!

> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Proud member WWWSC #2
> Formerly known as Ann
Frank - 08 Mar 2008 16:11 GMT
> They must not prevail or else ALL MANKIND will perish!

Seek mental health via a psychiatrist.

Yes floridian queer boy, you are severely lacking in mental stability.
It is no wonder your dad did not love you, we are all ashamed of you and
your posting to the Usenet.
stanw - 08 Mar 2008 17:26 GMT
On Mar 8, 10:19 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> Ann; I have tried to reason with you, but to no avail.
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> attack on all people who cherish freedom, liberty, peace and truth.
> They must not prevail or else ALL MANKIND will perish!

  Okay - a partial, point by point analysis of J/F/Wh/Fr's pseudo-
manic style and veiled manipulation of readers' impression of him that
he is some poor, rapid-cycling victim who thus mustn't be contradicted
aggressively, lest the respondant be received as insensitive,
bulllying, "cultish", mean, or desirous of silencing those who, albeit
very carefully ineptly, would present views that differ from some
imagined "big pharma" mainstream populace and their even more
outlandishly alleged motives be they financial, or - and this is just
too cleverly quasi-psychotic on Frag's part - **SINISTER**!! (ie
"drugging of children", or perhaps the furthering of some (again,
quasi-irrational) deteriorating social mores visavis "victim-, or
prozac-, nation" et al):

    Item 1A:  "kooky Cult "

              Deliberate use of the literary device known as
alliteration.  Fine for poetry.  But a little nuts and a tad self-
effacing in the context of a so-called argument.

               Frag knows it has this effect.  He wants to appear
almost unhinged and inept.  It is a ploy, a ruse.  Yes - he is a
nutjob, but for his pathetic pass-time of being a troll, not for what
he wants folks to think are legitimately held beliefs that are out
there, but authentic.  They are not authentic.  It is all flame-bait
and self-amusement.

   Item 2A:  " But our side,"

            Worded deliberately to give the impression of instability
or weak thinking.  Frag is saying one thing, but his intent is to give
the ironic appearance.  He know he sounds "out there" with this
phaseology - and that is what he wants.

    Item 2B:  "will not be bullied"

             Different phrase, same motive.  The use of "(we) will
not be" is delibererately strident and borderline grandiose.  Again,
it is deliberate - he wants folks to think he's off his nut - a
"victim" who should just be left alone on a.s.a-d.

    Item 2C:  "the side of honest research"

             More of the same.  Deliberately simplistically "black
versus white", "hero versus villian" mentality.  The effect is one of
a possible two: that readers see him as endearingly feeble-minded and
worthy of pity, not confrontation, or that said readers get the
impression of some schizo off of his own lithium who "cannot help
himself" and thus shouldn't be "set off" or treated harshly.

            DELIBERATE, folks.

    Item 2D:  "This is why they are on the rampage of trying to
censor us.  This is a direct attack on all people who cherish freedom,
liberty, peace and truth.  They must not prevail or else ALL MANKIND
will perish!"

            Okay - I think you get the point.  This last example is
one last flourish to finish off a deliberately unhinged presentation,
all designed to continue the ruse of a poor pathetic whackjob who
should just be left alone to rant on.  The near classic (read: *cliche!
*) use of "liberty, truth, justice" - and the American way!! - all
presented to make him sound like a kook whose views are, although
woefully weak in logic and reason, nonetheless authentic.

         The views are not authentic, and neither is Frag.  No
"fringe of society" victim is he.  Just some pathetic, probably
unwillingly single, perhaps unemployed shmo in a garden level studio
who cannot afford to go out and acquire the life experiences which
might actually contribute to the attainment of the slightest bit of
culture, wisdom or class.


-stan
Jan Drew - 10 Mar 2008 01:54 GMT
"stanw" <stanwshura@yahoo.com> expounded:

 [    ]
stanw - 10 Mar 2008 02:08 GMT
> "stanw" <stanwsh...@yahoo.com> expounded:
>
>   [    ]

    Your smartest and most eloquent post yet.
Jan Drew - 10 Mar 2008 02:55 GMT
On Mar 9, 8:54 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "stanw" <stanwsh...@yahoo.com> expounded:
>
> [ ]

    Your smartest and most eloquent post yet.

No, this one was:

> On Mar 5, 10:08 pm, terrym2442 <terrym2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> From: M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-April 30, 2004
> (M.a.r.k_P.r.o.b.e.r.t_04-30...@limbercartel.com)

What say about that stan??
stanw - 10 Mar 2008 03:30 GMT
> On Mar 9, 8:54 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> What say about that stan??

    Well, since you asked:

    (copy/paste coming up!)...

Not Found
The requested message, O9_Aj.15136$0o7.607@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net,
could not be found.

You can visit the main page.
Jan Drew - 11 Mar 2008 03:50 GMT
On Mar 9, 9:55 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "stanw" <stanwsh...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>
> What say about that stan??

    Well, since you asked:

    (copy/paste coming up!)...

Not Found
The requested message, O9_Aj.15136$0o7.607@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net,
could not be found.

You can visit the main page.

Poor Stan.

Maybe a 6 year old can show you how to copy paste the whole thing,
Oh, that's right you did it on purpose

Scroll up to the correct one.  It clicks on perfectly.  Your leaving part
of it off is noted.  No wonder you and Mark are friends.
stanw - 12 Mar 2008 03:57 GMT
> On Mar 9, 9:55 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 58 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

       First, the 6 year old comment is supposed to  be an insult?  I
will fully yield any claim of technical expertise to most 6 year olds
today.

       Second - left what off?  When YOU quoted it, as a response to
my indicating that silence was indeed your smartest and most eloquent
post (looks like that still stands, by the way), I should merely have
had to click on it.

     Well ahhh shirrrly deeyad, Jayuhh Deeyuh, and that thar dang ol'
error message did mos' impohlahhtleyah come upon me.  Sherrrr azz
shootin' I did so trah ti cleek eet agin, but, well sheeyooooot!
Looks like YOU dun fu....oh, maah stars - ah mean SKREEEWED up thayer,
hooneh!

     Care to trah agin??  Post that thar link.  Mehbeh yi maht dew it
raaht theess tahme!!
Jan Drew - 12 Mar 2008 07:07 GMT
stanw - 08 Mar 2008 17:52 GMT
> But our side, the side of honest research, will not be bullied,
> intimidated or demoralized by the actions of Ann or the other members
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> attack on all people who cherish freedom, liberty, peace and truth.
> They must not prevail or else ALL MANKIND will perish!

  Okay - a partial, point by point analysis of J/F/Wh/Fr's pseudo-
manic style and veiled manipulation of readers' impression of him that
he is some poor, rapid-cycling victim who thus mustn't be contradicted
aggressively, lest the respondant be received as insensitive,
bulllying, "cultish", mean, or desirous of silencing those who, albeit
very carefully ineptly, would present views that differ from some
imagined "big pharma" mainstream populace and their even more
outlandishly alleged motives be they financial, or - and this is just
too cleverly quasi-psychotic on Frag's part - **SINISTER**!! (ie
"drugging of children", or perhaps the furthering of some (again,
quasi-irrational) deteriorating social mores visavis "victim-, or
prozac-, nation" et al):

    Item 1A:  "kooky Cult "

              Deliberate use of the literary device known as
alliteration.  Fine for poetry.  But a little nuts and a tad self-
effacing in the context of a so-called argument.

               Frag knows it has this effect.  He wants to appear
almost unhinged and inept.  It is a ploy, a ruse.  Yes - he is a
nutjob, but for his pathetic pass-time of being a troll, not for what
he wants folks to think are legitimately held beliefs that are out
there, but authentic.  They are not authentic.  It is all flame-bait
and self-amusement.

   Item 2A:  " But our side,"

            Worded deliberately to give the impression of instability
or weak thinking.  Frag is saying one thing, but his intent is to give
the ironic appearance.  He know he sounds "out there" with this
phaseology - and that is what he wants.

    Item 2B:  "will not be bullied"

             Different phrase, same motive.  The use of "(we) will
not be" is delibererately strident and borderline grandiose.  Again,
it is deliberate - he wants folks to think he's off his nut - a
"victim" who should just be left alone on a.s.a-d.

    Item 2C:  "the side of honest research"

             More of the same.  Deliberately simplistically "black
versus white", "hero versus villian" mentality.  The effect is one of
a possible two: that readers see him as endearingly feeble-minded and
worthy of pity, not confrontation, or that said readers get the
impression of some schizophrenic (or victim of some other psychotic
break) off of his own lithium
who "cannot help himself" and thus shouldn't be "set off" or treated
harshly.

            DELIBERATE, folks.

    Item 2D:  "This is why they are on the rampage of trying to
censor us.  This is a direct attack on all people who cherish freedom,
liberty, peace and truth.  They must not prevail or else ALL MANKIND
will perish!"

            Okay - I think you get the point.  This last example is
one last flourish to finish off a deliberately unhinged presentation,
all designed to continue the ruse of some hapless victim or poor
pathetic whackjob who should just be left alone to rant on - and to
deny the reality of a lonely loser who cannot find another way to
amuse himself.  The near classic (read: *cliche! *) use of "liberty,
truth, justice" - and the American way!! - all presented to make him
sound like a kook whose views are, although woefully weak in logic and
reason, nonetheless authentic.

    The views are not authentic, and neither is Frag.  No "fringe of
society" victim is he.  Just some pathetic, probably
unwillingly single, perhaps unemployed shmo in a garden level studio
who cannot afford to dig himself out from under the pizza boxes, ramen
noodle wrappers, beer cans and slap mags and actually *go out* and
acquire the life experiences which might actually contribute to the
attainment of the slightest bit of culture, wisdom or class.

-stan
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 09 Mar 2008 07:42 GMT
Stan,  I wish I had the time and inclination to cross-examine your
hair-brain analysis, but that would feed into your delusional
sickness, and that would be wrong!!  But I will strongly urge you to
use you diagnostic skills at something more fruitful, like the over-
diagnosis of certain phony spin-dromes.  You may find your work much
more meaningful and fulfilling if you would chose that course of
action.

I would love to say it is nice to have you back, but it isn’t.  We
need people who have a strong moral and ethical code that can help
those who are being victimized by Big Pharma and Big Medicine.  In
fact, we have taken a principled stand to do just that.  If we don’t
help these victims today, we all may end up in the Gulag tomorrow.

These are words to ponder.

I do find your very amateurish psychoanalysis amusing to say the
least.  It is nice to see that at least one member of your Bloc has a
sense of humour.  Ha-ha!

> > But our side, the side of honest research, will not be bullied,
> > intimidated or demoralized by the actions of Ann or the other members
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>
> -stan
Mark Probert - 12 Mar 2008 03:42 GMT
On Mar 9, 2:42 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> Stan,  I wish I had the time and inclination to cross-examine your
> hair-brain analysis, but that would feed into your delusional
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>
> I would love to say it is nice to have you back, but it isn’t.

True. Since Stan knows you as Frager, you are outed.

 We
> need people who have a strong moral and ethical code that can help
> those who are being victimized by Big Pharma and Big Medicine.  In
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Jan Drew - 12 Mar 2008 05:09 GMT
NewsTarget.com printable article
Originally published January 8 2008
Kevin Miller's New "Generation Rx" Documentary Exposes Mass Betrayal of
Children by FDA, Big Pharma
by Mike Adams

(NewsTarget) A new documentary on the dangers of mind-altering drugs will be
arriving this year, and the film's creator Kevin Miller was kind enough to
send us an advance copy of the film for review. Not many films have the
potential to radically reshape the understanding of an entire nation and
create positive change for the health of future generations, but this is one
that clearly qualifies. "Generation Rx" delivers a devastating blow to the
psychiatric drug pushers, FDA puppets and Big Pharma marketing fraudsters
who have sold an entire nation on an absurd idea that turns out to be a
grand medical hoax: that millions of children have "chemical imbalances" in
their brains requiring treatment with patented, profitable pharmaceutical
drugs like Prozac and Ritalin.

The film features interviews with many notable doctors, authors and health
experts, including Dr. Julian Whitaker, Dr. Fred Baughman, Robert Whitaker
(author of Mad In America: Bad Science, Bad Medicine, and The Enduring
Mistreatment of the Mentally Ill) and many others. Through the
emotionally-charged personal testimonies of parents whose children have
committed suicide on Prozac, along with secret memos from the drug
companies' own top executives, Generation Rx weaves a terrifying tale of
criminal conspiracy, the mass abandonment of medical ethics, and the routine
betrayal of an entire generation by an industry that seems fixated on the
idea of profits at any cost.

The evidence presented in Generation Rx is damning. By the time you finish
chapter three of the film (which contains the most jaw-dropping revelations
of FDA corruption and scientific fraud), you'll cry out for the criminal
prosecutions of key FDA decision makers, Big Pharma executives and the
authors of the DSM-IV, the "bible" of modern psychiatry. Fifty-six percent
of the panel members who created the DSM-IV are on the take from drug
companies, pocketing cash, bribes, royalty payments or other fees from the
very same companies that profit from the mass marketing of "brain chemistry
diseases." (Be sure to visit my interactive Disease Mongering Engine to
invent your own fictitious brain chemistry diseases right now, just like the
drug companies do!)

Evidence of criminal conspiracy
Generation Rx reveals startling evidence detailing the criminal negligence
of the FDA. The highly corrupt Food and Drug Administration didn't
"accidentally" approve psychotropic drugs that just happened to kill
children, you see: The administration knew that SSRI drugs (antidepressants)
were killing children for well over ten years! The FDA then went out of its
way to bury the evidence, colluding with prominent drug companies to hide
key documents while hastening the approval of dangerous drugs and keeping
the public ignorant of the true risks from consuming them.

Kevin Miller's Generation Rx covers all this (and more) in heart-wrenching
detail. You'll see the remarkably lucid explanations and warnings by the
scientifically-minded Robert Whitaker (who used to be a skeptic that Big
Pharma money could possibly influence science), pleas for medical sanity by
Dr. Julian Whitaker, and even home movie footage of young girls who later
killed themselves while on Prozac. You'll walk away from this film shaking
your head in disgust, asking "How did it come to this?"

Or, more precisely, how did modern psychiatric medicine come to the point
where it's all just a grand marketing scam designed to generate obscene
profits by exploiting the minds and bodies of an entire generation of
children? How did Big Pharma manage to so completely hijack medical science,
taking over the medical journals, FDA regulators, science researchers and
medical schools? And why hasn't this been stopped? Why have these chemical
crimes against children continued to be tolerated -- even encouraged! -- by
the Food and Drug Administration and a Big Pharm-funded U.S. Congress? (Note
of hope: There is one peer-reviewed medical journal that remains honest and
publishes good medical science: PLoS Medicine, an open-source journal that
accepts no advertising from drug companies...)

The simple truth, as the film reveals, is that money buys everything in this
modern economy. It buys media coverage, it buys distorted science, it buys
legislation, and it even buys the very definitions of disease. Big Pharma
money has so completely infiltrated modern psychiatric medicine that any
person claiming diseases like ADHD or "bipolar disorder" are based on solid
science should be laughed off the world stage. Modern psychiatric medicine
is an empty sham, a medical hoax, an uninspired contrivance of
scientific-sounding babblydeegook designed to mesmerize gullible parents
into putting their children on dangerous patented chemicals that may
ultimately kill them.

Even the psychiatric scientists who voted these fictitious diseases (like
"ADHD") into existence have no idea what they really are. At one point in
Generation Rx, a psychiatrist is asked to offer a clear definition of ADHD.
His answer? A 45-second fumbling of words, hesitations and stammering
nonsense of such stupidity that it makes you wonder if the psychiatrist is,
himself, on crack! Nowhere in his answer does he offer anything resembling
rational thought.

Generation Rx is full of shocking little gems like this. Even if you already
know the real story about the quackery of modern psychiatric medicine, this
film delivers a jaw-dropping emotional ride through the corruption, deceit
and downright psychotic behavior of an entire industry. A couple of
CounterThink cartoons (by yours truly) also make the film, detailing FDA
corruption, Big Pharma's junk science and the grand hoax of modern
psychiatry.

(See my most recent CounterThink cartoon, just released today: Fidozac, the
antidepressant drug for dogs!)

Only occasionally does the film retreat from its pressure-cooker drama.
Chapter Three offers a series of personal testimonies on Prozac that goes on
way too long, for example, but the timing of the film is likely to be
tightened up before its final release.

We'll keep you posted on the film's release
Generation Rx won't be available for public release until later this year.
NewsTarget will be running exclusive clips from the film, and we'll be
covering the film's launch and availability. We don't yet know the price of
the DVD or where to purchase it, but as soon as this information is made
available to us, we'll pass it along to you. (I'll also be asking if it's
available in PAL format for our European readers.) We hope to get our hands
on some clips that we'll post on YouTube.

Generation Rx is already on the top of my list of Best Films in 2008, and
it's almost certain to stay there. (Other films to look forward to this year
include All Jacked Up as well as one tentatively titled, "Junk Food, Inc.")
Generation Rx is a must-see documentary that reveals the true depth of
criminality and fraud in modern psychiatric medicine. It calls for an end to
the mass drugging of our schoolchildren and wholesale reforms of the entire
corrupt system of pharmaceutical development and marketing.

With this film, courageous filmmaker Kevin Miller has catapulted a giant
boulder of truth into the scum-filled pond waters of modern psychiatry,
sending out a shockwave of ripples that threaten to finally expose this
malicious branch of medicine that depends for its very survival on the
chemical poisoning of childrens' brains. I give this film my enthusiastic
support, and I urge every parent, lawmaker and doctor to view it. Society
owes Kevin Miller a great honor for creating this documentary -- an honor he
is unlikely to ever receive, given the mass drugging of the population with
the very same mind-altering drugs being exposed in this documentary.

Watch for updates and exclusive video clips of Generation Rx throughout
2008, right here on NewsTarget.com

Note to other filmmakers: I am available to both participate in and review
other documentary films that contain important messages about health. There
is no fee to have your film reviewed here. If I promote your film, I do not
ask for any promotional fees or kickbacks of any kind. My articles, cartoons
and other creations are readily available for use, without any fee, in your
films or books (contact us for permission and release forms). I will be
appearing prominently in the upcoming All Jacked Up film by Faerie Films, as
well as other documentaries by non-profit groups, and I welcome the
opportunity to participate in your documentary. If you are a filmmaker or
producer, contact our offices by phone at (520) 232-9300 to obtain
permissions, schedule interviews or send us films for review. We will sign
NDAs and honor announcement embargoes. We can help make your film a
tremendous success while educating millions about health freedom and natural
health.

http://www.newstarget.com/z022474.html
Jan Drew - 10 Mar 2008 01:57 GMT
WWWSC #2 - 08 Mar 2008 22:04 GMT
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:

>Ann; I have tried to reason with you, but to no avail.

You know no reason.

>But our side, the side of honest research, will not be bullied,

There is no honest research on your side.

>intimidated or demoralized by the actions of Ann or the other members
>of her cult.  We will try to reason with them, but so far, that has
>been a very challenging proposition!

See above.

>Dear Readers, notice how the kooky Cult never addresses the well-
>documented facts that Jan, Ilena and myself document.  

You have never, ever, once documented anything, never mind facts.

>And their
>little game of accusing us of not stating the evidence.

There's no game, because you don't state any evidence.

>  This is why
>they are on the rampage of trying to censor us.

No rampage, just letting everyone who doesn't know already (there are
still a few) that you're a known liar, deceiver, forger and plagarist.

>  This is a direct
>attack on all people who cherish freedom, liberty, peace and truth.
>They must not prevail or else ALL MANKIND will perish!

You are such an overblown buffoon it'd be funny if it wasn't so old.
Signature

Proud member WWWSC #2
Formerly known as Ann

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 09 Mar 2008 07:48 GMT
Ann; I feel your pain, but alas, you have been duped by a one Mr.
Proby.  He is very skilled at the Hitlerian-Nixonian tactic of the Big
Lie.  Your unruly Mob is coming apart at the seams, just as I
predicted it would.  But these are medical support and information
groups, and I have always kept my postings on topics and only very
rarely directly accuse anybody of misinformation.  But your posts are
nothing but that.  I will kindly ask you once again to moderate
yourself.  We cannot afford to scare people off of these newsgroups
because you go off half-crazy with phony accusations because your
Controller tells you to!!

If you knew 1/1000 of what Jan knows or even 1/10000 of what Ilena
knows, you would have something to say.  But they do real research and
they are to be commended for their excellent job and sacrifice to get
information out to the public.  I hope and pray that deep down you
fell the same way.

Sir ARtiØ

> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:
>
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> Proud member WWWSC #2
> Formerly known as Ann
Frank - 09 Mar 2008 08:20 GMT
If you knew 1/1000 of what Jan knows or even 1/10000 of what Ilena
knows, you would have something to say.  But they do real research and
they are to be commended for their excellent job and sacrifice to get
information out to the public.  I hope and pray that deep down you
fell the same way.

Sir ARtiØ
=========================================
Well Floridian Queer boy, your personal diseases are affecting your
mind. It would be ridiculous for anyone to agree with the above
statement, especially the one you are directing this too.

I wonder if Jan would accept the "facts" as you state them that Ilena is
10 times smarter than Jan?

I also wonder why you would worship them and believe the lies they post.
Have you no mind of your own? Oh.......that's right, queer diseases that
affect your brain.

Hope you had a nice time tonight, dancing with your bro's.
WWWSC #2 - 09 Mar 2008 12:59 GMT
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:

>Ann; I feel your pain,

I am in no pain, fArty.

Hold your arms out straight from your body, fArty, it'll make it
harder to get the net over you.
Signature

Proud member WWWSC #2
Formerly known as Ann

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 10 Mar 2008 08:26 GMT
Ann,  Please keep your kooky talk off of this group, there is enough
of it with morons such as Frank and Proby.

Sir ArtiO

> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:
>
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> Proud member WWWSC #2
> Formerly known as Ann
WWWSC #2 - 10 Mar 2008 11:25 GMT
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:

>Ann,  Please keep your kooky talk off of this group, there is enough
>of it with morons such as Frank and Proby.

FOAD, Jerry.
Signature

Proud member WWWSC #2
Formerly known as Ann

Mark Probert - 10 Mar 2008 12:11 GMT
On Mar 10, 3:26 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:
> Ann,  Please keep your kooky talk off of this group, there is enough
> of it with morons such as Frank and Proby.
>
> Sir ArtiO

You are a mistake of protoplasm.

> > "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> expounded:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -
stanw - 10 Mar 2008 23:56 GMT
> On Mar 10, 3:26 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>
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>
> You are a mistake of protoplasm.

ROTFLMFAO!!!!  Oh, man.  I gotta pee!

                       -stan
Mark Probert - 11 Mar 2008 02:12 GMT
> > On Mar 10, 3:26 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> ROTFLMFAO!!!!  Oh, man.  I gotta pee!

Did I inadvertently insult protoplasm?

I hope not.
Mark Probert - 12 Mar 2008 03:44 GMT
On Mar 9, 2:48 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:

> Ann; I feel your pain,

You have not felt enough pain. Please hit yourself in your head with a
2X4.

but alas, you have been duped by a one Mr.
> Proby.  He is very skilled at the Hitlerian-Nixonian tactic of the Big
> Lie.  

Yes, I am. I learned all about it from Y O U.

Your unruly Mob is coming apart at the seams, just as I
> predicted it would.  But these are medical support and information
> groups, and I have always kept my postings on topics and only very
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Jan Drew - 12 Mar 2008 07:03 GMT
On Mar 9, 2:48 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie...@zzz.com> wrote:

> Ann; I feel your pain,

You have not felt enough pain. Please hit yourself in your head with a
2X4.

but alas, you have been duped by a one Mr.
> Proby. He is very skilled at the Hitlerian-Nixonian tactic of the Big
> Lie.

<Yes, I am. I learned all about it from Y O U.>

YOU and YOU along are responsible for your posts, your behavoir and YOUR
LIES.
Give it up Mark.  Your UDP along with these posts show you have NO
character.

Your unruly Mob is coming apart at the seams, just as I
> predicted it would. But these are medical support and information
> groups, and I have always kept my postings on topics and only very
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> > >Dear Readers, notice how the kooky Cult never addresses the well-
> > >documented facts that Jan, Ilena and myself document.

That's 2 funny as *I* posted this thread.

> > You have never, ever, once documented anything, never mind facts.

Blatant lie.

These are the FACTS:

NewsTarget.com printable article
Originally published January 8 2008
Kevin Miller's New "Generation Rx" Documentary Exposes Mass Betrayal of
Children by FDA, Big Pharma
by Mike Adams

(NewsTarget) A new documentary on the dangers of mind-altering drugs will be
arriving this year, and the film's creator Kevin Miller was kind enough to
send us an advance copy of the film for review. Not many films have the
potential to radically reshape the understanding of an entire nation and
create positive change for the health of future generations, but this is one
that clearly qualifies. "Generation Rx" delivers a devastating blow to the
psychiatric drug pushers, FDA puppets and Big Pharma marketing fraudsters
who have sold an entire nation on an absurd idea that turns out to be a
grand medical hoax: that millions of children have "chemical imbalances" in
their brains requiring treatment with patented, profitable pharmaceutical
drugs like Prozac and Ritalin.

The film features interviews with many notable doctors, authors and health
experts, including Dr. Julian Whitaker, Dr. Fred Baughman, Robert Whitaker
(author of Mad In America: Bad Science, Bad Medicine, and The Enduring
Mistreatment of the Mentally Ill) and many others. Through the
emotionally-charged personal testimonies of parents whose children have
committed suicide on Prozac, along with secret memos from the drug
companies' own top executives, Generation Rx weaves a terrifying tale of
criminal conspiracy, the mass abandonment of medical ethics, and the routine
betrayal of an entire generation by an industry that seems fixated on the
idea of profits at any cost.

The evidence presented in Generation Rx is damning. By the time you finish
chapter three of the film (which contains the most jaw-dropping revelations
of FDA corruption and scientific fraud), you'll cry out for the criminal
prosecutions of key FDA decision makers, Big Pharma executives and the
authors of the DSM-IV, the "bible" of modern psychiatry. Fifty-six percent
of the panel members who created the DSM-IV are on the take from drug
companies, pocketing cash, bribes, royalty payments or other fees from the
very same companies that profit from the mass marketing of "brain chemistry
diseases." (Be sure to visit my interactive Disease Mongering Engine to
invent your own fictitious brain chemistry diseases right now, just like the
drug companies do!)

Evidence of criminal conspiracy
Generation Rx reveals startling evidence detailing the criminal negligence
of the FDA. The highly corrupt Food and Drug Administration didn't
"accidentally" approve psychotropic drugs that just happened to kill
children, you see: The administration knew that SSRI drugs (antidepressants)
were killing children for well over ten years! The FDA then went out of its
way to bury the evidence, col