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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / January 2008How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth
How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth http://www.cancertutor.com/Other/NoCancer2.html The medical establishment, which not only controls which treatments doctors will use, also control what medical "theories" doctors will believe and apply!! They will pick the medical theories that deliver the most profits for Big Pharma and the AMA's doctors. These absurd medical theories then control the research direction and research money. In other words, the lust for profits controls the research money. Perhaps the reader can understand why people like John D. Rockefeller, Sr. were so anxious to set up foundations to control the direction of medical research. Their "generous" contributions had nothing to do with any concern for humanity, they wanted to control medical research. The AMA and medical schools make sure doctors are totally ignorant of the applications of medical theories such as: the body's electrical systems, the importance of pH/alkalinity, the danger of fungi, moulds, etc. in the blood, phytonutrients, glyconutrients, vitamins/antioxidants, electromagnetic treatments, oxygen treatments, chlorophyll, and so on. These are theories that are not profitable enough, yet they lead to far more effective treatments than the highly profitable orthodox "theory" and treatments!! When a spectacular discovery is made, the FDA or AMA shuts the clinic or lab down, the media suppresses both the discovery and the shutting down of the clinic, etc. How is the discovery going to be distributed among the public? It won't be. Big Pharma and the AMA have blocked all channels of communication!! Some of more well-known (to alternative medicine people) cancer researchers who were shut down, or were severely harassed, by the AMA (or its state or Canadian equivalent) are: Harry Hoxsey (herbs), Dr. Royal Ray Rife (microscope and electromagnetic microbe killer), John Clark (did follow up to Royal Rife's research), Dr. William F. Koch (synthetic antitoxins), Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski (Antineoplastons), Dr. Max Gerson (diet and supplements), Lawrence Burton, PhD (Immuno-Augmentative Therapy), Dr. Andrew C. Ivy (Krebiozen), Gaston Naessens (microscope and 714-X homeopathic), Dr. John A. Richardson (laetrile), Dr. Philip E. Binzel, Jr. (laetrile). There have been numerous medical doctors and other health practitioners who used nutrition and supplements to treat cancer who had far higher "total life" cure rates on terminal cancer patients than any current orthodox treatment!! But the direction of cancer "research" is not to improve these natural treatments and determine why they work so well, but the direction of research is to test "theories" that lead to more profitable treatments!!! Carole www.cellsalts.net www.conspiracee.com > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth They don't "suppress" the truth. They have no clue yet. Just like you. > > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth > > They don't "suppress" the truth. They have no clue yet. > Just like you. That was unkind and totally uncalled for, Vernon. There are different ways of dealing with a problem. Because I don't know biology or chemistry, I get around things a different way, and there's nothing wrong with that. All it means is I get out of reading all the textbooks that have been doctored. Carole www.cellsalts.net >> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > All it means is I get out of reading all the textbooks that have been > doctored. If you dealt in the world of science in the tiniest, you would know they walk blindly (just like you) (They are no different) (It's not an insult) What, Do you think that I think I know? Luckily we have a FEW treatments that seem to work for a while and then don't work. Cutting is still the most proficient. >>> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > walk blindly (just like you) (They are no different) (It's not an > insult) Hmm. *They don't "suppress" the truth. They have no clue yet. Just like you.* This IS an insult. Like to tell us again..how many religious colleges you went to? > What, Do you think that I think I know? > > Luckily we have a FEW treatments that seem to work for a while and then > don't work. Cutting is still the most proficient. >>>> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >>>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> Luckily we have a FEW treatments that seem to work for a while and then >> don't work. Cutting is still the most proficient. Get a brain What, Do you think that I think I know? What, Do you think that I think I know? What, Do you think that I think I know? What, Do you think that I think I know? The world REALLY is NOT in a conspiracy against little you. If you dealt in the world of science in the tiniest, you would know they walk blindly (just like you) (They are no different) (It's not an insult) Get a brain What, Do you think that I think I know? What, Do you think that I think I know? What, Do you think that I think I know? What, Do you think that I think I know? >> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Because I don't know biology or chemistry, I get around things a different >way, and there's nothing wrong with that. Yes Carole, there is everything wrong with that. You just can not come to any conclusions about these subjects if you know nothing about them. >All it means is I get out of reading all the textbooks that have been >doctored. No, it means you make it up as you go along. >Carole >www.cellsalts.net Martin Rady, you haven't answered this..yet. So...I will post it again. Martin" <idontwantno@spam http://www.skeptics.com.au/ Hmm. No spam there..right, Martin Rady? http://www.meetup.com/friends/toolkit/ No spam there...huh, Martin Rady? http://www.entenmann-rovin.com/order.php Hmm. Martin Rady, you wouldn't lie, would you? >Martin Rady, you haven't answered this..yet. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Hmm. No spam there..right, Martin Rady? And you haven't identified the spam, have you Jan? >http://www.meetup.com/friends/toolkit/ > >No spam there...huh, Martin Rady? Is that martin's web site? >http://www.entenmann-rovin.com/order.php > >Hmm. Martin Rady, you wouldn't lie, would you? Is that Martin's web site?  SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com Martin Rady, you haven't answered this..yet. So...I will post it again. Martin" <idontwantno@spam http://www.skeptics.com.au/ Hmm. No spam there..right, Martin Rady? http://www.meetup.com/friends/toolkit/ No spam there...huh, Martin Rady? http://www.entenmann-rovin.com/order.php Hmm. Martin Rady, you wouldn't lie, would you? > >> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > to any conclusions about these subjects if you know nothing about > them. Now that is simply not true, Martin. As I've explained previously, I am only an educated user and only educated to a certain extent, mainly through my own experience. The science of cellsalts / tissue salts was worked out by Dr Schuessler way back in 1850 or thereabouts. So to tell me that I'm unscientific is beside the point. > >All it means is I get out of reading all the textbooks that have been > >doctored. > > No, it means you make it up as you go along. I will admit I have an open mind towards possibilities. What I have to say is a mixture of facts and speculation. Whereas what you have to say is a mixture of blind faith in the system, and rote learning. Carole www.cellsalts.net >> >> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >> >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >As I've explained previously, I am only an educated user and only educated >to a certain extent, mainly through my own experience. You have been explained before why personal experience is not a good way to figure things out? It´s what kept bloodletting alive for centuries. >The science of cellsalts / tissue salts was worked out by Dr Schuessler way >back in 1850 or thereabouts. >So to tell me that I'm unscientific is beside the point. I´m not telling you you´re unscientific. I´m telling you that you don´t know what you´re talking about. That´s ok, I don´t know everything either, but unlike you, I educate myself about things. You refuse to learn about things and seem proud of it. >> >All it means is I get out of reading all the textbooks that have been >> >doctored. >> >> No, it means you make it up as you go along. > >I will admit I have an open mind towards possibilities. Carole, in your case, the word gullible doesn´t cover it. >What I have to say is a mixture of facts and speculation. >Whereas what you have to say is a mixture of blind faith in the system, and >rote learning. I don´t have blind faith in the system, but I´m not totally paranoid like you either. And I despise rote learning. People should be tought *how* to think, not *what* to think. Sometimes, as in your case, that´s impossible. You simply parrot what you read on alternative websites and don´t think at all. >Carole >www.cellsalts.net > >> >> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth > >> >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > way to figure things out? It´s what kept bloodletting alive for > centuries. Sorry Martin, but when a person like myself, is FORCED to spend so much time and effort working out their own health problems, the system has failed. I consider that I have put in as much time learning about cellsalts and corruption of the system as any doctor has in getting a degree. Therefore I consider myself fully qualified to speak on the topic of alternative health. Sorry, if my science doesn't correspond to your corrupted version. > >The science of cellsalts / tissue salts was worked out by Dr Schuessler way > >back in 1850 or thereabouts. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > everything either, but unlike you, I educate myself about things. You > refuse to learn about things and seem proud of it. I'd rephrase that and say that one of us doesn't know what they're talking about, and its not me. You don't get educated, you get dumbed down -- there is a difference, old chap. > >> >All it means is I get out of reading all the textbooks that have been > >> >doctored. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Carole, in your case, the word gullible doesn´t cover it. And in your case the words "dumbed down" are poignantly descriptive. > >What I have to say is a mixture of facts and speculation. > >Whereas what you have to say is a mixture of blind faith in the system, and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that´s impossible. You simply parrot what you read on alternative > websites and don´t think at all. Bullshit Martin. You have blind faith and you trust the corrupted system works -- which it doesn't. You are a standard model scientist, a SMS, who reads all the relevant texts, gets all the same lectures, and passes all the same tests. If anybody gets cured outside the system, you say they either never had cancer or it was placebo. Carole www.cellsalts.net >>>>>>> How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > alternative health. Sorry, if my science doesn't correspond to your > corrupted version. You must have mistyped that last sentence. You should have written, to be correct, "Sorry, if my science doesn't correspond to reality." >>> The science of cellsalts / tissue salts was worked out by Dr Schuessler > way [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I'd rephrase that and say that one of us doesn't know what they're talking > about, and its not me. Again, you mistyped when you said it is not you. > You don't get educated, you get dumbed down -- there is a difference, old > chap. Yes, and when you were dumbed down, you took the express elevator. >>>>> All it means is I get out of reading all the textbooks that have been >>>>> doctored. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > And in your case the words "dumbed down" are poignantly descriptive. Carole, do you know what projection is? If not, learn it. >>> What I have to say is a mixture of facts and speculation. >>> Whereas what you have to say is a mixture of blind faith in the system, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Bullshit Martin. You have blind faith and you trust the corrupted system > works -- which it doesn't. Bullshit Carole. You have blind faith and you trust every alternative dirtbag. > You are a standard model scientist, a SMS, who reads all the relevant texts, > gets all the same lectures, and passes all the same tests. You are the standard alternative nutjob, a SAN, who reads all the wacko websites, gets all the same bullshit, and passes flatulence which you then post. If anybody gets > cured outside the system, you say they either never had cancer or it was > placebo. Placebo does not cure. It is used to treat symptoms. And, you use placebo facts. > Carole > www.cellsalts.net >> >> >> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >> >> >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >Sorry Martin, but when a person like myself, is FORCED to spend so much time >and effort working out their own health problems, the system has failed. I thought your cellsalt had made you healthy? You mean to tell me they don't work? > I consider that I have put in as much time learning about cellsalts and >corruption of the system as any doctor has in getting a degree. >Therefore I consider myself fully qualified to speak on the topic of >alternative health. Sorry, if my science doesn't correspond to your >corrupted version. The problem is that your 'science' does not correspond to the real world. >> >The science of cellsalts / tissue salts was worked out by Dr Schuessler >way [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >cured outside the system, you say they either never had cancer or it was >placebo. No, just like Peter Moran, I aks for evidence. So far, I haven't seen any. Claims galore, but zero evidence. >Carole >www.cellsalts.net > >> You have been explained before why personal experience is not a good > >> way to figure things out? It´s what kept bloodletting alive for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I thought your cellsalt had made you healthy? You mean to tell me they > don't work? I used to have problems ...didn't I say that? These days the problems are minor, like today I got wet feet in the rain and started to get some athletes foot. So just took a few doses of bicarb and cream of tartar. I do that whenever it begins to appear -- its a minor complaint. Got to keep on top of the minor complaints. > > I consider that I have put in as much time learning about cellsalts and > >corruption of the system as any doctor has in getting a degree. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The problem is that your 'science' does not correspond to the real > world. My science seems to correspond to the soil theory, or the orthopathic ways, or the nature cure ways. It definitely doesn't correspond to the allopathic science. > >> >The science of cellsalts / tissue salts was worked out by Dr Schuessler > >way [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > No, just like Peter Moran, I aks for evidence. So far, I haven't seen > any. Claims galore, but zero evidence. I gave you plenty of ways you could prove what I said was right. However, I don't give you information that corresponds to your doctored science. Carole www.cellsalts.net >> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Because I don't know biology or chemistry, I get around things a different > way, and there's nothing wrong with that. Only if you make it clear to everyone that ALL the opinions you hold or support are based upon such absurdity, including the idea that doctors are evil monsters who WANT their patients to get cancer and die. I have previously accused you of the arrogant assurance that you are always right and you always will be "right" in your own mind if you never check that what you believe fits the facts. > All it means is I get out of reading all the textbooks that have been > doctored. In other words, you trust what you read on the Internet over the knowledge that scientists have painstakingly gathered and checked an double-checked over many decades. I guess it enables you to pick and choose only that which fits your own prejudices. PM > Carole > www.cellsalts.net "Peter Moran" <pmoran@internode.on.net had the gall to write: >I guess it enables you to pick and choose only that > which fits your own prejudices. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> Carole >> www.cellsalts.net >>> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> Carole >> www.cellsalts.net Let's hear it, Mark Probert......... *You said that already.* >>> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >>> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > PM And so far that painstaking gathering (yes I agree with you) is producing near zilch. It is absolutely absurd and "SICK" that people think all these Doctors are in some sort of collusion. Could I find a hundred that falsely make money using so called traditional answers? No problem whatever. Could I find the same number of con artists? Yep. The conspiracy sickoes only make the situation worse. Would the pharm world or the AMA (Doctor's trade Union) turn down a nickel? Not on your life. > >> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > support are based upon such absurdity, including the idea that doctors are > evil monsters who WANT their patients to get cancer and die. My opinions are based on my experience with cellsalts which goes over 30 years. I have treated many conditions with them which otherwise I would have had to visit the doc. And some of the conditions I have treated were treated by a doc using pharmaceutical products, but which I then discovered I could use cellsalts instead which is a superior treatment being nutritional. I think doctors have the best interests of the patients in mind, but they are hampered by a corrupt system that forbids them to go outside its boundaries. > I have > previously accused you of the arrogant assurance that you are always right > and you always will be "right" in your own mind if you never check that what > you believe fits the facts. I am no more arrogant than the system that foists itself on a trusting public and calls itself "health", when in actual fact it is merely "medicine" at a high price in both terms of money and health. There is no other topic that gets me more worked up than the medical system in its attempt to treat chronic disease which it can't even work out why people get sick, letalone understand the disease process. You don't seriously expect me to have any respect for this system that never cures but merely treats and manages chronic disease? Give me a break. I didn't come down in the last shower. Have you ever heard the saying "an ounce of bullshit beats a pound of brains"? That is what conventional medicine is all about -- bullshit and garbage. It puts poisons into people's bodies and calls it "safe and efficacious" and hunts down and destroys doctors who try to use treatments that actually cure patients. > > All it means is I get out of reading all the textbooks that have been > > doctored. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > over many decades. I guess it enables you to pick and choose only that > which fits your own prejudices. To a certain extent I trust what I read on the internet, mainly in regard to this topic of acid vs alkalinity. It seems to be a big part of the health puzzle and I don't think anybody can reasonably deny it. You only have to go back to nature and see that plants grow optimally in the correct soil pH, fish often need to have their water set at the right pH. What would be so difficult and challenging about this theory, and why would you expect a person to have optimal health if they have a large burden of stored acids in their body? And where would these stored acids reside, in what part of the body? Do they go into a person's fat, their joints, the actual cells, a person's brain -- where? Cellsalts are a big part of the pH solution. Sodium phosphate and sulphate are the main cellsalts recommended for dealing with acidity, plus mag phos and silica. However, they all come into play to keep the system in balance. In my opinion all diseases can be traced to a deficiency of one or more of the cellsalts. There are other causes such as heavy metals, but I think cellsalts may help to remove them from the body. However, I don't currently have any theories on this topic. Its outside my range as far as treatments go. However, I do think there is probably some insidious program operating to poison the public with heavy metals and chemicals, but that is another topic and could be classified partly as speculation. Carole www.cellsalts.net >> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Because I don't know biology or chemistry, I get around things a different > way, and there's nothing wrong with that. Only if you make it clear to everyone that ALL the opinions you hold or support are based upon such absurdity, including the idea that doctors are evil monsters who WANT their patients to get cancer and die. I have previously accused you of the arrogant assurance that you are always right and you always will be "right" in your own mind if you never check that what you believe fits the facts. > All it means is I get out of reading all the textbooks that have been > doctored. In other words, you trust what you read on the Internet over the knowledge that scientists have painstakingly gathered and checked an double-checked over many decades. I guess it enables you to pick and choose only that which fits your own prejudices. PM > Carole > www.cellsalts.net >>> How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Because I don't know biology or chemistry, I get around things a different > way, and there's nothing wrong with that. Hmmm...you have never been trained on explosives...but do not let that stop you. Get some and have a blast. > All it means is I get out of reading all the textbooks that have been > doctored. > > Carole > www.cellsalts.net >> > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truth >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > All it means is I get out of reading all the textbooks that have been > doctored. Your limited knowledge is illustrated in the idea that you think a "text" book is a source reference. > How the Cancer Industry Suppresses The Truthhttp://www.cancertutor.com/Other/NoCancer2.html > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Carolewww.cellsalts.netwww.conspiracee.com "The tobacco industry did a lot of things to suppress the truth. By far the most effective of these tactics was to use bribery to control the politicians ("bribery" is a term I use to encompass a wide variety of influence tactics) and advertising money to control the media. That was as easy as stealing candy from a baby. As always it worked to perfection." Now we have Pharma using the same tactics as tobacco used....Just like the truth prevailed regarding lung cancer and smoking, The truth regarding Thimerosal and NEURODEVELOPMENTAL disorders will also prevail. |
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