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Merck Brings AIDS/HIV to America in Vaccine - Shocking

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mainframetech - 12 Jan 2008 12:05 GMT
A sidelight for those following the Vaccination conflict.

This stunning censored interview was cut from the TV program The
Health Century due to its huge liability -- the admission that the
Merck drug company has been injecting cancer viruses into people
worldwide.

    This clip is shocking in many ways, one of which is how much
lack
of care was used in developing vaccines.  Some folks will tell you
that the drug industry has since become wonderfully caring and
cautious.  Use your common sense and past experience with the drug
industry, and don't be intimidated by the usual suspects around here
that don't want you to see this, so you'll  miss some truth from the
mouths of the scientists that did it and laughed about it later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edikv0zbAlU

Chris
The One True Zhen Jue - 12 Jan 2008 14:26 GMT
>     A sidelight for those following the Vaccination conflict.
>
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>
> Chris

Ohhh, the matrix is the wool that has been pulled over your eyes!

Thanks for the laughs, Chris.
Jan Drew - 13 Jan 2008 00:09 GMT
>    A sidelight for those following the Vaccination conflict.
>
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>
> Chris

Great Find, Chris.

I doubt there will be any replies from the actual pro-vac liars.
Peter Bowditch - 13 Jan 2008 01:53 GMT
>>    A sidelight for those following the Vaccination conflict.
>>
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>
>I doubt there will be any replies from the actual pro-vac liars.

First red flag - the video was put onto YouTube by the insane Len
Horowitz. It seems that Horowitz is now claiming that Merck created
AIDS, which is a change from his previous fantasy that the KGB created
AIDS.

Second red flag - a "censored" interview which shows still images of
Dr Hilleman. If the interview was censored, how did Horowitz get hold
of it? When was the interview conducted? (Dr Hilleman can't tell us,
because Horowitz loaded the video after Dr Hilleman died. How
convenient.)

Third red flag - when we actually see a moving picture of Dr Hilleman
the words we hear are obviously not those which his lips are forming.
To hide this, strips of things he is not saying are often run across
the bottom part of his face.

Fourth red flag - the hysterical laughter at the things Dr Hilleman is
"saying".

So, here's a question - did Merck create AIDS or did the KGB create
AIDS?

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Jan Drew - 15 Jan 2008 04:26 GMT
>>>    A sidelight for those following the Vaccination conflict.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> AIDS, which is a change from his previous fantasy that the KGB created
> AIDS.

First red flag--DR Leonard Horowitz.
Second red flag.  Peter Bowditch is lying, as usual.
Voice of Dr Maurice Hilleman.

> Second red flag - a "censored" interview which shows still images of
> Dr Hilleman. If the interview was censored, how did Horowitz get hold
> of it? When was the interview conducted? (Dr Hilleman can't tell us,
> because Horowitz loaded the video after Dr Hilleman died. How
> convenient.)

Third flag--It is Dr Hilleman and his very own lips saying the words.

> Third red flag - when we actually see a moving picture of Dr Hilleman
> the words we hear are obviously not those which his lips are forming.
> To hide this, strips of things he is not saying are often run across
> the bottom part of his face.

Fourth flag- Parts were exactly formed from his own lips, Deceiver.

> Fourth red flag - the hysterical laughter at the things Dr Hilleman is
> "saying".

Fifth flag--Original sound track.  Laughter not added.

> So, here's a question...............

Which is another of your deceving tactics.

Sixth flag-KBG

KGB Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti (Committee for State Security,
former USSR)
KGB Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (pro football player)
KGB Kahlua, Grand Marnier, Bailey's Irish Cream (mixed drink)
KGB Kalpatharu Grameena Bank
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KGB Kappa Gamma Beta
KGB Keep Geeks Busy (underground activities group for students at some VA
and PA colleges and universities)
KGB Ketchikan Gateway Borough
KGB Killer Green Bud (slang for marijuana)
KGB King George Bush
KGB Kingston and George Bay Railroad
KGB Knights of Glory and Beer (online role-playing guild)
KGB Known Good Board
KGB Knoxville Gaming Bureau (University of Tennessee, Knoxville)
KGB Komitet Gosudarstvennoi Bezopasnosti (Russian: Comittee for Security of
the State)
KGB Kontrol Gruppe für Beschleuniger (Jozef Stefan Institute in Ljubljana,
Slovenia)
KGB Korean Girl Boarders (snowboarding club at the University of Washington)
KGB Kraine Gallery Bar (bar in East Village New York)
Peter Bowditch - 15 Jan 2008 07:21 GMT
>>>>    A sidelight for those following the Vaccination conflict.
>>>>
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>Second red flag.  Peter Bowditch is lying, as usual.
>Voice of Dr Maurice Hilleman.

How do you know it's his voice, Jan? Did you ever hear him speak? The
words don't match the lip movements.

Do you know when the video was made, Jan? Do you know when Dr Hilleman
died?

>> Second red flag - a "censored" interview which shows still images of
>> Dr Hilleman. If the interview was censored, how did Horowitz get hold
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Third flag--It is Dr Hilleman and his very own lips saying the words.

Yet strangely those lips don't move in time with the words.

>> Third red flag - when we actually see a moving picture of Dr Hilleman
>> the words we hear are obviously not those which his lips are forming.
>> To hide this, strips of things he is not saying are often run across
>> the bottom part of his face.
>
>Fourth flag- Parts were exactly formed from his own lips, Deceiver.

No, Jan, the words are not in sync with his mouth movements.

>> Fourth red flag - the hysterical laughter at the things Dr Hilleman is
>> "saying".
>
>Fifth flag--Original sound track.  Laughter not added.

Original sound track of what, Jan? Are you suggesting that when Dr
Hilleman was being interviewed there was an audience sitting closer to
the microphone than he was and laughing in all the wrong places?

>> So, here's a question...............
>
>Which is another of your deceving tactics.

A question cannot be deceptive.

>Sixth flag-KBG
>
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>KGB Korean Girl Boarders (snowboarding club at the University of Washington)
>KGB Kraine Gallery Bar (bar in East Village New York)

I assume that idiocy was some sort of reaction to the lunacy of Len
Horowitz. He has said that AIDS was created by the KGB. Now he is
saying that it was created by Merck. Which is correct? And what
relevance does the SV40 contamination of polio vaccine have to do with
AIDS?

The acceptance of this ridiculous video illustrates why it sometimes
seems futile to even try to have a rational discussion with medicine
haters and anti-vaccination liars. It is so transparently false that I
can only feel pity for anyone who believes that it demonstrates
anything except Len Horowitz's insanity.

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David Wright - 14 Jan 2008 18:06 GMT
>    A sidelight for those following the Vaccination conflict.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>     This clip is shocking in many ways, one of which is how much
>lack of care was used in developing vaccines.  

Another of which is the weird, sleazy editing that it has undergone.
Strange laughter has been added -- oh, sure, the captions imply it
was in the origial, but clearly it was not.  Not to mention the
audio looping etc.

But probably the most shocking thing (well, it's not REALLY shocking,
I never expect any kind of honesty from anti-vax loons) is that
although AIDS is mentioned at the very start of the clip, the entire
clip is really about SV40 contamination of polio vaccine, and that's
got nothing to do with AIDS.

But hell, why would anti-vax scumbags bother with accuracy when they
can go for phony sensationalism instead?

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
mainframetech - 15 Jan 2008 11:17 GMT
  LOL!  We sure drew out the usual suspects with that post!!  Amazing
how just plain normal citizens can become incensed if you suggest that
something is wrong in the drug industry... :)

Chris
David Wright - 16 Jan 2008 06:01 GMT
>   LOL!  We sure drew out the usual suspects with that post!!  Amazing
>how just plain normal citizens can become incensed if you suggest that
>something is wrong in the drug industry... :)

Amazing how dimwits like Chris can

1) fail to quote any text, thus making it difficult for others to
  know what they are talking about

2) utterly mischaracterize the postings of others.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
Mark Probert - 17 Jan 2008 13:13 GMT
>>   LOL!  We sure drew out the usual suspects with that post!!  Amazing
>> how just plain normal citizens can become incensed if you suggest that
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> 2) utterly mischaracterize the postings of others.

The purpose of those tactics is to make the original poster look
foolish, and Chris look smarter. It is a ploy.
David Wright - 18 Jan 2008 04:27 GMT
>>>   LOL!  We sure drew out the usual suspects with that post!!  Amazing
>>> how just plain normal citizens can become incensed if you suggest that
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>The purpose of those tactics is to make the original poster look
>foolish, and Chris look smarter. It is a ploy.

Not a particularly effective one, however.  It didn't make him look
smart, it made him look like another of these cretins who can't
operate a newsreader.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?"
                                                       -- Bill Maher
Mark Probert - 18 Jan 2008 05:29 GMT
>>>>   LOL!  We sure drew out the usual suspects with that post!!  Amazing
>>>> how just plain normal citizens can become incensed if you suggest that
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> smart, it made him look like another of these cretins who can't
> operate a newsreader.

He still thinks he is smart.
mainframetech - 21 Jan 2008 19:50 GMT
On Jan 18, 12:29 am, Mark Probert <markprob...@lumbercartel.com>
wrote:
> >>> In article <3bcacf7a-8a4a-4f3c-93fa-f7a080774...@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL!  Yep!

Chris
 
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