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The Flat Tire Syndrome. If there were a board with a nail sticking up in it which caused my tire to go flat, I could continue to ignore it and simply repair the tire each time it went flat. Knowing that possibly a nail was causing my tire to go flat, I could initiate a study to learn about nails, and tires. I could puncture a lot of tires, write papers about the holes and damage produced, all the time continuing to repair the tires on my vehicle. Then again, knowing that protruding nails often did cause flat tires and the flat tire syndrome, I could simply remove the offending nail while I waited for more scientific data. This seems to be the case with injectable mercury and autism. The whole world knows how dangerous and toxic mercury is, mercury being the second most poisonus heavy metal in the world to humans. The EPA is busy removing mercury from the landscape of humanity for this reason. The EPA scientists all agree on the toxicity of inhaled and ingested mercury. Even mercury, in the organic form of merthiolate ( aka thimerosal ), was removed from the market place for use as a topical antiseptic. Mercury in food causes mercury poisoning. Mercury in baby teething powder causes Pink's disease and mercury poisoning, and the list goes on. Medical scientists, mostly PhDs and few MDs, are claiming that their data shows injectable mercury to be the main cause of autism, but not necessarily the only contributing cause. Medical authorities in the NIH, the FDA, and the CDC refuse to agree saying that there is no "scientific" connection between injectable mercury and disease of any kind. The I OM, on the basis of a few statistical studies ( 4, and no hard scientific studies ) has stated that in their opinion there is no connection...and no more money should be given to study the issue, thereby effectively providing a coverup. Does the public have to tolerate this kind of medical arrogance? Does the public have to suffer all this disease at the hands of their doctors? I don't think so. Let's use the court of common sense. First, is there reason to assume injectable mercury is a contributing cause? Yes. Is mercury toxic? Yes. Is mercury a nerurotoxin? Yes Does mercury accumulate in humans over time? Yes. Does injection enhance the absorption of mercury? Yes, perhaps 100X Does injection of aluminum with mercury enhance the toxicity? Yes, perhaps another 100X ( the duo of metals then being 10,000 times as toxic ). Do autistic children test positive for mercury poisoning? Yes. Secondly, without confirming scientific studies of toxicity, can we detect or show a successful treatment based solely upon mercury being a causative agent? Yes. Have hundreds, and perhaps thousands, of children been provided this treatment? Yes. Did the results of this treatment restore health and indicate mercury to be a causative agent? Yes. We have thus established a cause and effect. You aim a gun, pull the trigger, and the bullet kills someone is cause and effect. Running over a nail and getting a flat is cause and effect. Injecting mercury and aluminum and seeing poisoning and disease result is cause and effect. Using the court of common sense, I would stop the giving of injectable mercury to children the same as I would pull the nail from the board to stop flat tire syndrome. The children in the US are sicker than at any time in history. The CDC has reported that as many as 1/75 now have ADS ( autism and other syndromes ). The CDC has also stated that 1/6 US children have a neurological problem or disease. The people of the US simply cannot wait for the medical authorities to act. Pull the nail from the board. Stop the giving of injectable mercury. Use the court of common sense. Use your constitution rights. You do not have to vaccinate children and you certainly do not have to use mercury and aluminum laden vaccines if you are foolish enough to do it and risk your child's health. DrCee Please feel free to give this to someone who has children and may be in the quagmire of ASD and the clutches of big pharma and modern medicine. > The Flat Tire Syndrome. > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > in the quagmire of ASD and the clutches of big pharma and modern > medicine. It raises the interesting question of why mercury was ever put in vaccines in the first place. Why would all these scientific people who are so educated and the best minds in the land, not know the dangers of putting such things into vaccines, and why are vaccines pushed more and more onto young babies? Any self-respecting conspiracy would have a field day with that one. Yes, you can push and plausible deniability button, and say they weren't aware ...but that one is getting a bit thin. We pay good money through our taxes for people to know these things, but they don't and it all comes out after the fact. So the only explanation is that they knew and they planned it that way. But why? One can only speculate, and the only thing that I can come up with is that they want to dumb people down and play havoc with their minds from early childhood, the earlier the better. They obviously cover all fronts and use a two pronged approach to keep people under control and easy to manipulate by 1) reducing the mental capacity of child with poisons introduced into the bloodstream, and 2) dumb down in the classroom. Which makes the following document sound like it comes from somebody who knows something. THE SECRET COVENANT http://user.pa.net/~drivera/fwappa.htm / http://www.unveilingthem.com/SecretCovenant.htm An illusion it will be, so large, so vast, it will escape their perception. Those who will see it will be thought of as insane. We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us. We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur. We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute. We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks. We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite. We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening. We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, and also in the air. They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn. The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison. The poisons will be absorbed through their skin and mouths, and they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems. From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information. The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear. We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far. We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones. Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons. They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect. When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them it's for their help. We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things. When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future. When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine. We will render them docile and weak before us by our power. They will grow depressed, slow and obese; and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison. We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they may never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all. Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon. We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides. We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan. They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil. Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way. We will make them kill each other when it suits us. We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion. We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how. We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves. We will foment animosity between them through our factions. When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best. We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children. We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, and anger as our friend. The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other. They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit. We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us. We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths. We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished. We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds. We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this. The tools will be provided by their labor. We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors. We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know! They must never know that color is an illusion; they must always think they are not equal. Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal. We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them. We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have. We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt. When they shall band together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media. We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor. When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that. They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons. We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us. The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us. For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars. They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know. The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until it's too late. Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves. When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion. When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin. Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial. But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. This they must never know. If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action. They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter. This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans. This covenant must never, ever be known to exist. It must never, ever be written or spoken of, for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the prime creator upon us, and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself. This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood- We, the ones who from heaven to earth came. (This document was e-mailed to me [Fritz Springmeier] - written by an unknown author.) Carole www.cellsalts.net "Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in message news:478514fc$0$11969$ >> DrCee >> Please feel free to give this to someone who has children and may be [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > in the land, not know the dangers of putting such things into vaccines, > and Carole, save the affectations of superior wisdom for when thiomerosal has been shown to have injured anyone. While thiomerosal was largely removed from vaccines as a precaution over ten years ago in some countries, evidence since then has proved that it is not responsible for autism. Studies have also not shown any correlation between thiomerosal exposure and other neurological disabilities in children. Do a Pubmed search using this last phrase if you want the evidence. > why are vaccines pushed more and more onto young babies? Any > self-respecting [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > 1) reducing the mental capacity of child with poisons introduced into the > bloodstream, and 2) dumb down in the classroom. The above is scarcely worthy of response. It is paranoid, illogical, mean-spirited, and based upon a chain of unlikely and unevidenced assumptions. PM > "Carole" <hubbca@iimetro.com.au> wrote in message news:478514fc$0$11969$ > >> DrCee [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Do a Pubmed search using this last phrase if you want the evidence. Pubmed is a biased source and if you want more information on that, contact the guy from www.doctoryourself.com who wrote a great speel on that topic, how they don't index and catalogue certain journals. > > why are vaccines pushed more and more onto young babies? Any > > self-respecting [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > mean-spirited, and based upon a chain of unlikely and unevidenced > assumptions. I don't trust the system is working in the people's interests. Plus there are books written by school teachers who claim that the system works to dumb down kids. Education is designed to socialise, rather than educate. The following is just one person who makes the claim, there are others. The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America By Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt, former Senior Policy Advisor in the U.S. Department of Education http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/pages/book.htm Free download of book http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs/DDDoA.pdf large file, about 14gb. Carole www.conspiracee.com www.cellsalts.net > PM "Deschooling Society" by Ivan Illich, PhD. Paul > I don't trust the system is working in the people's interests. > Plus there are books written by school teachers who claim that the system [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Carolewww.conspiracee.comwww.cellsalts.net > The Flat Tire Syndrome. > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > in the quagmire of ASD and the clutches of big pharma and modern > medicine. Cr Cee, you do understand that mercury has been almost entirely removed from vaccines for some years now and the incidence of autism has not been affected in the slightest? Some of the other statements made above are not true, but the proof of the pudding, and all that. PM > Cr Cee, you do understand that mercury has been almost entirely removed from > vaccines for some years now and the incidence of autism has not been [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Notice the weasel wording "almost entirely." I am still wondering how much a "trace of thimerosal in vaccines" really is. The clock on thimerosal will begin in earnest in 2010. Thimerosal is supposed to no longer be added to vaccines after 2003. The babies of 2004, hopefully, will be thimerosal exposure reduced babies. This means we will have to wait until 2010 to see the actual results. The problem with this is, of course, that big pharma determines the diagnostic criteria, their trained drug pushers ( the docs ) determine the diagnosis, the self same docs are supposed to report any problems ( perhaps 1% do ), the collection agency ( the CDC ) studies the data however they wish then hide the data from public and independant review. WoW, what a system the medical monopoly has come up with. The only meaningful results that I expect to see will come from concerned and educated parents who refuse to inject mercury into their children and even further reject the premise of immunization as being archaic, worthless, useless, and very dangerous. This action may drop the rate prior to 2010. However, I have read reports from other groups that the rate may have already dropped up to 35%, depending upon the stats, as usual. One can only hope that the decrease is valid. BTW, since you do not comprehend vitalistic/humanistic medicine and now have lots of time on your bloody hands, why not get in touch with a renouned world expert. Keki Sidhwa, ND, DO, DNH is now in England and semi-retired. Perhaps he might lower himself to educating you on the finer points of health restoration as opposed to disease treatment. DrCee Not a pharma shill ( I am not here to lie or deceive you ) >> Cr Cee, you do understand that mercury has been almost entirely removed from >> vaccines for some years now and the incidence of autism has not been [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Notice the weasel wording "almost entirely." I am still wondering how >much a "trace of thimerosal in vaccines" really is. Rather than wondering, you might have researched the matter. That's what I did. No doubt the problem was too difficult for you, since it took me nearly fifteen seconds to find the information. In this case, "trace" means "less than 0.3 mcg per injection." For comparison, the usual amount of mercury in vaccines was 25 micrograms, so it's been reduced by a factor of 100 at least. >The clock on thimerosal will begin in earnest in 2010. Thimerosal is >supposed to no longer be added to vaccines after 2003. The babies of >2004, hopefully, will be thimerosal exposure reduced babies. This >means we will have to wait until 2010 to see the actual results. Lots of the babies from 2000 onward were already not getting any thimerosal. And a diagnosis need not wait till age 6; it's often done much sooner these days. >The problem with this is, of course, that big pharma determines the >diagnostic criteria, their trained drug pushers ( the docs ) determine [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >review. >WoW, what a system the medical monopoly has come up with. There we go. Cee carefully sets the stage so that when autism rates don't drop, he'll just announce that the fix is in. Exactly why anyone would believe this remains an open question, because what parent is going to *want* their kid to be autistic? >The only meaningful results that I expect to see will come from >concerned and educated parents who refuse to inject mercury into their >children and even further reject the premise of immunization as being >archaic, worthless, useless, and very dangerous. Most parents won't do that, of course, unless they are stupid enough to get advice from the likes of Cee. > This action may drop the rate prior to 2010. However, I have read >reports from other groups that the rate may have already dropped up >to 35%, depending upon the stats, as usual. One can only hope that >the decrease is valid. It's not. The only such report so far was the usual abuse of statistics. I think by the Geiers, but I'm not sure offhand. There are no other such reports that I know of. >DrCee >Not a pharma shill ( I am not here to lie or deceive you ) Sad, but untrue. Cee may not think he's lying, which would be a conscious act, but he's not telling you the truth, either. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "[Being against Gardasil] is like being against a cure for blindness because it'll encourage masturbation." -- Bill Maher > >> Cr Cee, you do understand that mercury has been almost entirely removed from > >> vaccines for some years now and the incidence of autism has not been [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > what I did. No doubt the problem was too difficult for you, since it > took me nearly fifteen seconds to find the information. Yes, but how much is safe? I've heard and believe, that there is no safe level of mercury. Because when you combine the little trace of mercury, with the little trace of aluminium and the little trace of something else, it all adds up to a toxic coctail. > In this case, "trace" means "less than 0.3 mcg per injection." For > comparison, the usual amount of mercury in vaccines was 25 micrograms, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > thimerosal. And a diagnosis need not wait till age 6; it's often done > much sooner these days. Yes, but what are "they" replacing the mercury with? Presumably the mercury was there for a purpose, so what was it, and what is it being replaced with? I don't trust the bastards, that is the only certainty. > >The problem with this is, of course, that big pharma determines the > >diagnostic criteria, their trained drug pushers ( the docs ) determine [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > anyone would believe this remains an open question, because what > parent is going to *want* their kid to be autistic? And what would you know Dave? You think you know it all, huh? You are an expert on what exactly? All I know is we are being lied to, denied knowledge we are entitled to, there is information suppressed at every turn and you still want to stick up for orthodox medicine? I have to wonder why. > >The only meaningful results that I expect to see will come from > >concerned and educated parents who refuse to inject mercury into their [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Most parents won't do that, of course, unless they are stupid enough > to get advice from the likes of Cee. At least DrC knows about pleomorphism of bacteria (which you wouldn't have a clue). And at least he had the GUTS and the brains to work out that there was something rotten at the core of medical science. It takes a certain amount of guts to go against the system and hold to the courage of your convictions. I tell you Dave, modern medicine is good in treating trauma victims and micro-surgery, but in treating chronic disease it is a cesspool of corruption. Carole www.cellsalts.net > > This action may drop the rate prior to 2010. However, I have read > >reports from other groups that the rate may have already dropped up [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > "[Being against Gardasil] is like being against a cure for > blindness because it'll encourage masturbation." -- Bill Maher >> In article ><a28d2858-941a-4835-9091-dd7002c78de8@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >of aluminium and the little trace of something else, it all adds up to a >toxic coctail. Except that the amount left is such that, at most, the amount a child will get from the *entire* set of childhood vaccinations is less than he used to get from ONE shot. Mercury isn't particularly safe, but we all have some in our bodies and we're not dropping dead on the spot, now are we? >> In this case, "trace" means "less than 0.3 mcg per injection." For >> comparison, the usual amount of mercury in vaccines was 25 micrograms, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Yes, but what are "they" replacing the mercury with? Mostly refrigeration. >Presumably the mercury was there for a purpose, so what was it, and what is >it being replaced with? >I don't trust the bastards, that is the only certainty. It was there as a preservative, to keep bacteria from growing in the vial. >> >The problem with this is, of course, that big pharma determines the >> >diagnostic criteria, their trained drug pushers ( the docs ) determine [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >You think you know it all, huh? >You are an expert on what exactly? Tell me about all the parents you know who want their kids to be autistic. >All I know is we are being lied to, denied knowledge we are entitled to, >there is information suppressed at every turn and you still want to stick up >for orthodox medicine? I have to wonder why. I have to wonder why you think you're qualified to know that we are being "lied to, denied knowledge." I mean, what the f.ck do you know? Sure, that's rude, but it's what you deserve. You're totally ignorant of the subjects about which you are so ready to pontificate. Why would I believe you about anything? You fall for the most obvious frauds. >> >The only meaningful results that I expect to see will come from >> >concerned and educated parents who refuse to inject mercury into their [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >At least DrC knows about pleomorphism of bacteria (which you wouldn't have a >clue). Actually, I would -- there's no such thing, and he's wrong. >And at least he had the GUTS and the brains to work out that there was >something rotten at the core of medical science. He doesn't have guts or brains. He's marching to a drum from the mid 1800s, and he's not interested in learning anything else. >It takes a certain amount of guts to go against the system and hold to the >courage of your convictions. Guts or stupidity? How about fanaticism? >I tell you Dave, modern medicine is good in treating trauma victims and >micro-surgery, but in treating chronic disease it is a cesspool of >corruption. Yeah, you can tell me that. I see no reason why I should believe you. You believe in a hollow earth. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?" -- Bill Maher See my recent and timely "vaccine" posts. There are many explanations "to/for" your debate, and it's more than just mercury. Paul > In article <47872596$0$12018$5a62a...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, > [quoted text clipped - 130 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > In article <a28d2858-941a-4835-9091-dd7002c78...@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > comparison, the usual amount of mercury in vaccines was 25 micrograms, > so it's been reduced by a factor of 100 at least. Thanks for the info or misinformation, whichever. How about telling us where you found this tidbit of information. Secondly, you do realize that we are now dealing with a homeopathic 10X dilution for thimerosal which means it is more powerful than before, don't you? DrCee >> In article <a28d2858-941a-4835-9091-dd7002c78...@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Thanks for the info or misinformation, whichever. How about telling >us where you found this tidbit of information. http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm I don't know why I bother providing references. It's not as though you ever do. >Secondly, you do realize that we are now dealing with a homeopathic >10X dilution for thimerosal which means it is more powerful than >before, don't you? Only if you're a dullard who believes such things. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?" -- Bill Maher On Jan 11, 12:11 pm, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > Secondly, you do realize that we are now dealing with a homeopathic > 10X dilution for thimerosal which means it is more powerful than > before, don't you? > > DrCee Wow. Pure and unabashed comedy gold! This is why I like this group. I don't post much, but it's oftentimes quite the entertaining read... Though, truth be told, it's a bit scary as well... If they go down to 3C and take all of the mercury out, immunisations will likely become instantly fatal... Oh, that's right, They forgot to properly percuss the preparation... Whew! ;-) Dunner > Secondly, you do realize that we are now dealing with a homeopathic > 10X dilution for thimerosal which means it is more powerful than > before, don't you? And, according to homeopathic theory, has the *opposite* effect of higher concentrations. Thus, according to the very theories you teach, the vaccines with the reduced concentrations of thimerosol should _cure_ whatever conditions the higher amounts cause -- and so one would expect you to be rushing to have children not only vaccinated but re-vaccinated with the new formulations. | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. | | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ > In this case, "trace" means "less than 0.3 mcg per injection." For > comparison, the usual amount of mercury in vaccines was 25 micrograms, > so it's been reduced by a factor of 100 at least. We've already seen the latest spin on the subject, though: even one atom of mercury is enough. There's already quite a bit of precedent for denying that dosage has anything to do with toxic effects. Keep in mind that there's a lot of "etheric effects" and other "spiritual" thinking in fashion, so much as with homeopathy one might expect the "evil influences" of Mercury to have some astrological effect. I'm all in all much more amused by Cee's ability to take the same data from the same source (CDDB increase in autism diagnoses) as credible -- and proof that the Establishment is corrupt -- when used to "prove" that vaccine thimerosol causes autism and not credible -- and thus proof that the Establishment is corrupt -- when it can no longer support that theory. | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. | | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ >> In this case, "trace" means "less than 0.3 mcg per injection." For >> comparison, the usual amount of mercury in vaccines was 25 micrograms, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >credible -- and thus proof that the Establishment is corrupt -- when >it can no longer support that theory. Cee is just very selective about which reality he accepts. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?" -- Bill Maher >>I'm all in all much more amused by Cee's ability to take the >>same data from the same source (CDDB increase in autism diagnoses) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Cee is just very selective about which reality he accepts. Has he selected one yet? I thought he was still comparison shopping. | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. | | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ >>>I'm all in all much more amused by Cee's ability to take the >>>same data from the same source (CDDB increase in autism diagnoses) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Has he selected one yet? >I thought he was still comparison shopping. Yes, but I think he's zeroing in on realities that are occupied by very few other people. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?" -- Bill Maher >> Cr Cee, you do understand that mercury has been almost entirely removed from >> vaccines for some years now and the incidence of autism has not been [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Notice the weasel wording "almost entirely." I am still wondering how > much a "trace of thimerosal in vaccines" really is. Simple. It is still higher than your intelligence, which is virtually non-existent. > The clock on thimerosal will begin in earnest in 2010. Thimerosal is > supposed to no longer be added to vaccines after 2003. The babies of [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > DrCee > Not a pharma shill ( I am not here to lie or deceive you ) > >> Cr Cee, you do understand that mercury has been almost entirely removed from > >> vaccines for some years now and the incidence of autism has not been [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Simple. It is still higher than your intelligence, which is virtually > non-existent. Oh, resorting to insults now are we? That's very mature and so enlightening. Your mother would be very proud of you. I am still very hurt and insulted by your comments a while ago. I don't know if I can ever forgive or forget and comments like this don't help. Please try and improve your attitude towards DrC if you hope to win any brownie points with me. Carole www.cellsalts.net Sorry, previous message response to wrong person. meant for PM. There is just so many of you obnoxious types, I get mixed up. > Carole > www.cellsalts.net > I am still very hurt and insulted by your comments a while ago. I don't > know if I can ever forgive or forget and comments like this don't help. > Please try and improve your attitude towards DrC if you hope to win any > brownie points with me. 1. I do not hope to win bropwnie points with you. 2. Not-A-Doctor Cee, a/k/a Chuckie, deserves just what he gets. 3. You should be trying to win brownie points with Me, Peter, Richard, Andrew, etc. On Jan 11, 3:17 am, "Carole" <hub...@iimetro.com.au> wrote: > I am still very hurt and insulted by your comments a while ago. I don't > know if I can ever forgive or forget and comments like this don't help. > Please try and improve your attitude towards DrC if you hope to win any > brownie points with me. >1. I do not hope to win bropwnie points with you. >2. Not-A-Doctor Cee, a/k/a Chuckie, deserves just what he gets. >3. You should be trying to win brownie points with Me, Peter, Richard, >Andrew, etc. One thing that all participants here have in common. SPARE TIRE SYNDROME It kills more than any amount of mercury. > Some of the other statements made above are not true, but the proof of the > pudding, and all that. > > PM- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Addendum: All the statements made are backed up by actual data. Just which ones do you feel are not valid....and provide proof as to why? DrCee On Jan 9, 3:49 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote: > Some of the other statements made above are not true, but the proof of the > pudding, and all that. > > PM- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Addendum: All the statements made are backed up by actual data. Just which ones do you feel are not valid....and provide proof as to why? DrCee The fact that you support them is a good 50-50 chance. > On Jan 9, 3:49 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote: >> Some of the other statements made above are not true, but the proof of the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > The fact that you support them is a good 50-50 chance. Wrong! It is a sure thing. Investment grade. On Jan 9, 3:49 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote: > Some of the other statements made above are not true, but the proof of the > pudding, and all that. > > PM- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Addendum: All the statements made are backed up by actual data. Just which ones do you feel are not valid....and provide proof as to why? PM There is conflicting pharamacokinetic data, such as from the Burbacher study mentioned here previously. But they are all proved either not valid or not relevant to the case at hand now that autism is finally proved to be continuing at the same rate in the USA, just as has been observed in countries that removed thiomerosal from their vaccines long ago. The theory always was that increasing rates of autism were due to increasing exposures of infants to thiomerosal. There is also no modification of the thiomerosal-autism hypothesis that can fit the facts. PM > <drcee...@insightbb.com> wrote in message It is nice to see that my initial argument using just common sense and commonly known facts in the flat tire syndrome still stands undefeated by the pharma shills. Injectable mercury plus aluminum and vaccines remains the most likely cause of autism and mercury poisoning. You may now go back to your regularly scheduled arguing over the pseudo-scientific data which may be used as a cover story. I t is obvious why the truth must be destroyed at all costs. Can you imagine the profit loss and the financial impact if the mercury connection was ever allowed to be "scientifically" proven? The enraged masses of parents and grandparents might just swarm the docs like ants on maggots. DrCee An ounce of common sense beats a ton of lies every time PS. Uhh, Moron, you never did correctly answer my posts. Nice try at avoiding the answers though. >> <drcee...@insightbb.com> wrote in message >> > It is nice to see that my initial argument using just common sense and > commonly known facts in the flat tire syndrome still stands undefeated > by the pharma shills. Injectable mercury plus aluminum and vaccines > remains the most likely cause of autism and mercury poisoning. My choosing not to devote my time to your lost causes proves nothing. You are the one making the above claim. You explain why, in now about six studies of this type emanating from several different countries, the removal of thiomerosal from vaccines has had no effect on the incidence of autism. PM > You may now go back to your regularly scheduled arguing over the > pseudo-scientific data which may be used as a cover story. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > PS. Uhh, Moron, you never did correctly answer my posts. Nice try at > avoiding the answers though. > It is nice to see that my initial argument using just common sense and > commonly known facts in the flat tire syndrome still stands undefeated > by the pharma shills. Injectable mercury plus aluminum and vaccines > remains the most likely cause of autism and mercury poisoning. Which is a testable conjecture: reduce the amount of mercury in childhood vaccines and see what happens to the rates of "autism and mercury poisoning." That experiment has now been performed several times. | Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable | | e-mail address. Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel. | | There isn't really a Santa Claus, but try www.santaclaus.com. | +--------------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> --------------+ >> <drcee...@insightbb.com> wrote in message >> >It is nice to see that my initial argument using just common sense and >commonly known facts in the flat tire syndrome still stands undefeated >by the pharma shills. Injectable mercury plus aluminum and vaccines >remains the most likely cause of autism and mercury poisoning. Sadly, no, it doesn't, not-a-Dr Cee. After all, the injectible mercury is removed, it turns out that it's cleared so fast it wouldn't matter anyway, and autism rose even after the mercury was out. So your silly claim falls to the ground. No surprise there. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?" -- Bill Maher > On Jan 9, 3:49 pm, "Peter Moran" <pmo...@internode.on.net> wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > exposures of infants to thiomerosal. There is also no modification of the > thiomerosal-autism hypothesis that can fit the facts. So what are they replacing the mercury with, presuming it was there for a purpose? And why do the Amish people not have autism, them being a non-vaccinated people? Carole www.cellsalts.net > PM > > The Flat Tire Syndrome. > > [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > Some of the other statements made above are not true, but the proof of the > pudding, and all that. Hey Peter, Jan has just discovered that the study showing no link to thermiserol was printed in a journal linked to pharmaceutical intersts. Good on her. Carole www.cellsalts.net > PM > Hey Peter, has just discovered that the study showing no link to > thermiserol was printed in a journal linked to pharmaceutical intersts. > Good on her. According to Google News HUNDREDS of news outlets published stories on this study. Who publishes is often meaningless. In this case, it most certainly is. > > Hey Peter, has just discovered that the study showing no link to > > thermiserol was printed in a journal linked to pharmaceutical intersts. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Who publishes is often meaningless. In this case, it most certainly is. Well not really Mark. There is a record of stories that favour big pharma getting good press and vice versa. You should know that by now? Big pharma has all the money and spends massive amounts of marketing and bribes to doctors to peddle their drugs. Carole www.cellsalts.net On Jan 9, 11:39 am, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: > The Flat Tire Syndrome. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > tires and the flat tire syndrome, I could simply remove the offending > nail while I waited for more scientific data. Have you no internal consistency whatsoever? I mean, there you go, promoting all of those hack and slash, surgical options: pulling nails, replacing tyres... What is really needed is a regular dosing of teeny-tiny homeopathic nails given to the tyre which will cure the puncture and likely render the tyres impervious to nails in future. Dunner >On Jan 9, 11:39 am, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: >> The Flat Tire Syndrome. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >nails given to the tyre which will cure the puncture and likely render >the tyres impervious to nails in future. No, no, no! You have to do the orthopathic approach. That means giving the tire just the right kind of care and nutrition it needs, which will make it completely puncture-proof and it'll never be harmed by nails again. The end. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "[Being against Gardasil] is like being against a cure for blindness because it'll encourage masturbation." -- Bill Maher >>On Jan 9, 11:39 am, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: >>> The Flat Tire Syndrome. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >which will make it completely puncture-proof and it'll never be harmed >by nails again. The end. And only use it on sealed roads. remember what Becham said about dirt.  SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com >>>On Jan 9, 11:39 am, drcee...@insightbb.com wrote: >>>> The Flat Tire Syndrome. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >And only use it on sealed roads. remember what Becham said about dirt. Shouldn't that be "soiled" roads? I mean, Bechamp said that the soil is everything. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "[Being against Gardasil] is like being against a cure for blindness because it'll encourage masturbation." -- Bill Maher > In article <5dd3f7da-e1cd-4005-8c3b-8064e935a...@v29g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net Well, I would readily admit the applicability of your form of treatment, though, since this is vitalist, that funky action of the etheric that is homeopathy would surely apply as well. Especially if one was to use my very own (patent pending) homeopathic 12X colloidal silver Wundernails... Good for all that ails that deflating tyre... Dunner "Codpiece? The Russian... It sacres the clergy" - The Black Adder > The Flat Tire Syndrome. > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > in the quagmire of ASD and the clutches of big pharma and modern > medicine. THE largest source of mercury to humans is from coal burning. Why don't you yack on the MOST important and PROVEN rather than the argumentative and secondary stupidity? |
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