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Mercury Does Not Belong In Homeopathic Drugs

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Mark Thorson - 26 Nov 2007 04:20 GMT
Quoting from:
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/98fr/981109bk.pdf

The 15 manufacturers of homeopathic products submitted
information on 494 human products containing 22 different
mercury compounds, as follows:

Homeopathic name                 CAS preferred or chemical name  
Number of products

Aethiops antimonialis            antimony sulfide/mercury mixture  2
Aethiops mercurialis-mineralis   black mercuric sulfide            8
Mercurius aceticus               mercurous acetate                 4
Mercurius auratus                mercury and gold amalgam          3
Mercurius biniodatus             mercuric iodide                   3
Mercurius bromatus               mercurous bromide                 3
Mercurius corrosivus             mercuric chloride                 80
Mercurius cum kali iodatus       potassium tetraiodomercurate      3
Mercurius cyanatus               mercuric cyanide                  20
Mercurius dulcis                 mercurous chloride                21
Mercurius iodatus flavus         mercurous iodide                  23
Mercurius iodatus ruber          mercuric iodide                   28
Mercurius methylenus             dimethylmercury                   3
Mercurius nitricus               mercuric nitrate                  4
Mercurius praecipitatus albus    ammoniated mercury (chloride)     11
Mercurius praecipitatus ruber    red mercuric oxide                31
Mercurius protoiodatus           mercurous iodide                  2
Mercurius solubilis              [Hahnemann’s] soluble mercury     126
Mercurius sulphocyanatus         mercuric thiocyanate              3
Mercurius sulphuratus ruber      red mercuric sulfide              10
Mercurius sulphuricus            mercuric sulfate                  13
Mercurius vivus [Quicksilver]    mercury                           72
Combination products                                               18

Due to the large number of dilutions in the manufacture
of homeopathic products, the amount of mercury compounds
used annually in manufacturing these products is minimal.
One manufacturer stated that 1 g of a mercury compound
provides enough active ingredient for 1,000 kilograms (kg)
of 6X tablets or pellets. Thus, most manufacturers annual
requirements for any mercury compound used in
manufacturing a homeopathic drug product should not exceed
1 g.
Robert - 26 Nov 2007 20:24 GMT
> Quoting from:http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/98fr/981109bk.pdf
>
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> manufacturing a homeopathic drug product should not exceed
> 1 g.

Homeopathic products are a huge scam and have nothing in them. Mercury
is not a problem.

Robert
drceephd@insightbb.com - 26 Nov 2007 20:47 GMT
> > Quoting from:http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/98fr/981109bk.pdf
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Yeah, the homeopaths are quite wrong here.  Yet, they, at least, are
telling the patients that they are getting mercury.  Not quite the
same with the allopath's who do not tell you and then claim, " a
little dab won't hurt you."

BTW, just what is the concentration of mercury in a 6X dilution?  It
will not be zero.

DrCee
Not a member of the medical monopoly
Not a member of the church of modern medicine.
Peter Bowditch - 26 Nov 2007 21:03 GMT
>> Quoting from:http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/98fr/981109bk.pdf
>>
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>
>Robert

I know that and you know that. Mark is merely pointing out the
hypocrisy of alternauts who say that mercury has no use and is always
poisonous except in homeopathy when it is useful and good.

I still want to know why the colloidal silver ground off tooth
fillings doesn't cure mercury poisoning. It cures everything else.
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Mark Thorson - 26 Nov 2007 21:23 GMT
> I know that and you know that. Mark is merely pointing out the
> hypocrisy of alternauts who say that mercury has no use and is
> always poisonous except in homeopathy when it is useful and good.

Some people say that mercury is unsafe at any level.
Strangely, you never hear these same people complaining
about homeopathic drugs in which mercury is the "active"
ingrediant.
Peter Bowditch - 27 Nov 2007 05:53 GMT
>> I know that and you know that. Mark is merely pointing out the
>> hypocrisy of alternauts who say that mercury has no use and is
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>about homeopathic drugs in which mercury is the "active"
>ingrediant.

That's because, deep down, they know that homeopathy is bullshit and
can have no effect.
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trigonometry1972@gmail.com - 27 Nov 2007 10:00 GMT
Yes,  homeopathic treatment is nonsense.
For some it is a religious doctrine that is accepted
as true because it is rejected by others, IMO.

> I still want to know why the colloidal silver ground off tooth
> fillings doesn't cure mercury poisoning. It cures everything else.

Colloidal silver is not a homeopathic in it concentrations when
it works. It certainly doesn't cure everything.  It is one
of many antiseptics and as such is valid. And yes
the BS artists sold their share of it and
they naturally given their nature inflated its value out of
proportion to anything resembling the truth. In the past it
was used in carbon filters for drinking water as a preservative.
Likely it good as a mild gargle and for topical purposes as
are a lot things.
Having said that the silvers antiseptic property may indeed
well placed in filling and the tooth matrix beside the obvious
mechanical barrier it provides.

My comment should alienate both sides here on
misc.health.alternative. Misc.health.alternative
should or could be symbolized by two snakes swallowing
the other's tail to represent the endless cycle of
argument.

Trig

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> Peter Bowditch aa #2243
Mark Probert - 27 Nov 2007 03:59 GMT
>> Quoting from:http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/98fr/981109bk.pdf
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>
> Robert

You missed the point.
cognite tute - 27 Nov 2007 15:57 GMT
> Quoting from:
> http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/98fr/981109bk.pdf
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> manufacturing a homeopathic drug product should not exceed
> 1 g.

I'm surprised that these homeopathic preparations are not being touted
as a treatment for autism.

j.
The One True Zhen Jue - 27 Nov 2007 18:08 GMT
> > Quoting from:
> >http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/98fr/981109bk.pdf
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> I'm surprised that these homeopathic preparations are not being touted
> as a treatment for autism.

Let me be the first to dispel your astonishment:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-33,GGLJ:en&sa=X&o
i=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=homeopathy+autism&spell=1


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Mark Thorson - 27 Nov 2007 20:49 GMT
> > I'm surprised that these homeopathic preparations are not
> > being touted as a treatment for autism.
>
> Let me be the first to dispel your astonishment:

Ah, but those people are "pseudo-homeopaths"
(I suppose real homeopaths are reluctant to use
the word "quacks"), as explained in this article:

http://www.homeopathysnc.org/thimerosol_autism_recovery.htm
cognite tute - 28 Nov 2007 05:28 GMT
>>>Quoting from:
>>>http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/98fr/981109bk.pdf
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I'm surprised alright.

I sueprised at the depths of their mendacity.

j.

thanks for the info.

I thought that homeopathy was the lesser of the evils in alternative
medicine, due to harmless nature of their preparations.

Now, I have to toss  them in with the rest of the idiot, charlatans and
frauds.

sad, really.

j.
 
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