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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / April 2007Is Ephedra safe?
Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask you all a few questions. I have read an article at 'Is Ephedra safe?' Which says: Ephedra, also known as ma huang and by its scientific name, Ephedra sinica, is an herbal product that comes from an evergreen plant. The Chinese used these plants 5,000 years ago, possibly for the treatment of asthma and hay fever. The FDA has banned the sale of ephedra because the product has been linked to heart attacks, strokes, and some deaths. Although ephedra's ability to enlarge airways to the lungs has long been known, there are no long-term studies on its effectiveness in people with asthma or on how it might fit into an asthma treatment plan. At: http://www.medical-health-care-information.com/encyclopedia/E/Ephedra.asp While it must be true, I wonder what you have to say about it. Do let me know! Regards, Sherry > Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask you > all a few questions. I have read an article at 'Is Ephedra safe?' [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Regards, > Sherry For a long time Ephedra was THE help for asthma, then idiot Jocks overdid it. It is only slightly more dangerous than aspirin and not as dangerous as Vodka. >> Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask you >> all a few questions. I have read an article at 'Is Ephedra safe?' [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > It is only slightly more dangerous than aspirin and not as dangerous as > Vodka. not true ephedra causes increased heart rate,,,irritability..etc...which in my book makes it a tad more dangerous than aspirin...vodka is not in the same ballpark.. problem with "supplements" as most should know..is that there is no way you know how much or how pure an ingredient you might be getting... there are safer meds for asthma >>> Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask you >>> all a few questions. I have read an article at 'Is Ephedra safe?' [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > there are safer meds for asthma You are ignorant. Ephedra was prescribed (suggested) very often by tens of thousands of doctors. >>>> Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask you >>>> all a few questions. I have read an article at 'Is Ephedra safe?' [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Ephedra was prescribed (suggested) very often by tens of thousands of > doctors. and your point is?? at least allopaths are NOT so "ignorant" as to ignore data that points to dopes like YOU who may mis use any "drug"... still waiting for you to post your medical qualifications..ie education,,,experience..degrees etc... yeah I know you purport to have most every pHd known to mankind....tho it is well known that many such degrees are purchasable online or off matchbooks REAL educated folks have degrees that can be substantiated ... talk about ignorant?? actually pathetic better describes you tho >>>>> Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask you >>>>> all a few questions. I have read an article at 'Is Ephedra safe?' [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > at least allopaths are NOT so "ignorant" as to ignore data that points to > dopes like YOU who may mis use any "drug"... I was refering to regular, traditional doctors. > still waiting for you to post your medical qualifications..ie > education,,,experience..degrees etc... > > yeah I know you purport to have most every pHd known to mankind....tho it > is well known that many such degrees are purchasable online or off > matchbooks And you are a LIAR. No matter what I say, you wouldn't believe it. Where is that massive list of deaths caused by ephedra? he he he he he he he I think ephedra is / was a dumb answer to all it was used for, but there is no sense lying about it. Light doses did help clear sinuses. Yes, it caused an increase in heart rate independant of need. The simple minded jocks THOUGHT they increased output. Real tests showed the opposite except for possible placebo effects where the atlete ASSUMED he could do more and thus did. A few died (as far as I can find about 3) because they should not have been on the feild in the first place. About 10 died in similar circumstances. The headlines were about the ones who took DRUGS (ephedra). >>>>>> Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask >>>>>> you [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > I was refering to regular, traditional doctors. then perhaps you need to use your dictionary.. allopathy IS traditional medicine what a doofus you are...pathetic actually >> still waiting for you to post your medical qualifications..ie >> education,,,experience..degrees etc... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > And you are a LIAR. and what would I have to lie about?? my credentials are indeed available ....yours ..if any..are likely to be of the kind purchased off of matchbooks > No matter what I say, you wouldn't believe it. so far you haven't said anything worth believing... nor have you ever... > Where is that massive list of deaths caused by ephedra? he he he he he he > he [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > been on the feild in the first place. About 10 died in similar > circumstances. The headlines were about the ones who took DRUGS (ephedra). you are babbling here...pretty common for you tho.... > >>>>>> Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask > >>>>>> you [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > allopathy IS traditional medicine Perhaps you are the one who should be using a dictionary. He didn't say anything about what constitutes "traditional" medicine, and your statement is false anyway. The word "traditional" used in reference to medicine is only consistent with historical use of traditional Chinese medicine (TCM), predating pharmaceutical drugs by several thousand years. The fact that industry has bastardized the English lexicon to create a false association for the purpose of marketing doesn't make it true. > what a doofus you are...pathetic actually What's pathetic is that you have nothing to say and posted three times to prove it. Your failure to answer his question below is ample proof of that. > > Where is that massive list of deaths caused by ephedra? he he he he he he > > he Well, Hawki? > >>> Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask you > >>> all a few questions. I have read an article at 'Is Ephedra safe?' [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >>> > >>> At: http://www.medical-health-care-information.com/encyclopedia/E/Ephedra.asp > >>> While it must be true, I wonder what you have to say about it. Do let > >>> me know! [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Ephedra was prescribed (suggested) very often by tens of thousands of > doctors. The key word here is WAS. Name calling again, Vernon? Robert >> >>> Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask >> >>> you [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Robert Translation. Doctors must be terrible. Ignorant is a "name".????? Interesting. > > Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask you > > all a few questions. I have read an article at 'Is Ephedra safe?' > > > > At: http://www.medical-health-care-information.com/encyclopedia/E/Ephedra.asp > > While it must be true, I wonder what you have to say about it. Do let > > me know! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It is only slightly more dangerous than aspirin and not as dangerous as > Vodka. Please give the reference for the study or research that proves this. >> > Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask you >> > all a few questions. I have read an article at 'Is Ephedra safe?' [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> > Please give the reference for the study or research that proves this. Go consult with a doctor who has been in the specialty of breathing or Asthma disorders for more than ten years. THEN see if you can find more than a very few documented anecdotal deaths associated with ephedra, especially non sports oriented. You are here making comments. The assumption is that you have done a little studying on it and not in the local "health" magazine. > Hi, this has been on my mind for sometime now, and I wanted to ask you > all a few questions. I have read an article at 'Is Ephedra safe?' [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Regards, > Sherry Ephedra (Ma Huang) is still available in the USA. As a licensed acupuncturist, I use it on occasion. It is usually less than 10% (often 2-3%) by weight of any formula in which it is used. It is used for certain colds & allergies...the same conditions one might take pseudophed. It is also used for some urinary blockages. The important this to know is that it is not intended for long-term use. Actually, it is seldom used for more than 3-4 days and it is contraindicated in many cases. It is not only contraindicated for many cardiovascular conditions, many Rx meds & herbs make it an unnecessary risk. As for Asthma, Gecko is a better "herb" and Acupuncture itself is preferable to herbs. There are 4 basic types of Asthms (Xiao Chuan) in Traditional Chinese Medicine. There are approximately 8 formulas that are commonly used and only one has ephedra. |
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