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libertysilver@gmail.com - 05 Apr 2007 03:55 GMT
This is long but needs urgent action
by all. Please read this in it's entirety to understand what we will
face if we don't take action;

WND: Food Supplements Targetted By Trilateral Deal----IAHF's Mssg
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John Hammell-- Byron Richards-- Tiffany Richards: DC Book Expo,
Bringing "Fight For Your Health" to the World!!

IAHF List: This past weekend I was interviewed by Jerome Corsi of
World Net Daily who just helped IAHF reach out to a much bigger
audience with our warning about the threat posed by the FDA's
Trilateral Cooperation Charter to usher genocidal CODEX vitamin
restrictions into North America. Please see Corsi's article below, and
please forward it to people.

Please also download it, make copies and get the around to health food
stores and dietary supplement manufacturers which are being
systematically lied to and kept in the dark about Codex and related
issues by the Natural Products Association (formerly NNFA) as
pharmaceutical interests are controlling the vitamin trade
associations world wide- sign this petition if you haven't already and
urge more people to sign it- as of 1:12 pm today Pacific time 286 new
people have signed, the biggest single day surge since the petition
has been in cyberspace!  http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/373269232#body

Food supplements targeted by trilateral deal
Mexico put in charge as U.S., Canada agree to follow--- by Jerome
Corsi
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55028

Some valuable information that didn't make it into Corsi's article
that I'd like you all to have & thoughts on what we CAN do!

Were you aware that the European Union was originally the idea of the
Nazi High Command, and that they (and the ruling elite which put them
in power) came up with the idea during the waning hours of WW2 as a
long range plan for Germany to achieve the control of Europe via
political and economic means what they were unable to achieve
militarily?

The UK's Philip Day did a superb job of putting together this
documentary which people WORLD WIDE must watch because the EU is the
BLUEPRINT for the NAU and the GLOBAL TOTALITARIAN STATE which we are
in a process of monkeywrenching!

THE REAL FACE OF THE EUROPEAN UNION- A DOCUMENTARY FILM BY PHILIP DAY

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/videos/EuropeanUnion.html

Many people mistakenly think the Nazis disappeared at the end of WW2,
and far too many have never examined the TRUE HISTORY of the war. They
fail to grasp that the ideas Hitler embraced regarding Eugenics
actually originated in the USA and UK: http://www.bioethicsanddisability.org/eugenics.html
The ruling elite who put Hitler into power were the architects of the
EU, they're the power behind the effort to deconstruct all nations as
they seek to force Canada, the USA and Mexico together into a North
American Union- and all countries eventually into a global
totalitarian state.

WATCH THIS AND SHOW IT TO YOUR FRIENDS & FAMILY TO WAKE THEM UP!

National Problematique: North American Nightmare

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tg8suvwS3o&mode=related&search=

WHAT YOU CAN DO TO DEFEND YOUR LIFE, YOUR FREEDOM, AND YOUR FUTURE

In the face of this information, its easy to feel disempowered, and
shut down. Its easy to feel depressed and to feel like theres nothing
you can do to stop whats happening, but I need to remind you all of
something very important: We see through a glass darkly, and as much
as these ruling elite pond scum THINK they're in charge of what goes
on on this planet, they're WRONG!!

This whole thing called LIFE is a TEST. Its a TEST to see how we react
to stuff. Do we think only of ourselves, and try to amass as much gold
and power as possible? Do we step on everyone around us and immorally
turn a blind eye to those around us who are less fortunate, or do we
try to be good neighbors to everyone around us and try to LIFT UP
those around us in a selfless way?

When I ponder current unfolding events, I think about the example set
by such people as Martin Niemoller, and I ask myself if I have it in
me to do what he did? We all need to ask ourselves this question at
this time, because the Nazis who he opposed are still very much with
us only NOW they're called NEOCONS.

Niemoller commanded a U-Boat for the German Navy during WW1, and he
was a decorated war hero. He was a Lutheran Pastor, and initially,
before he realized what was going on, he supported Hitler because as a
Patriotic German, at first he thought that was the right thing to do.
But when he saw who Hitler REALLY was, he turned against him with
every fiber of his being and started railing against the Nazis from
the pulpit. For his trouble he spent 7 years in Nazi concentration
camps (Sachsenhausen and Dachau) , but he did the right thing- and he
encouraged everyone around him to do the right thing- so please take a
moment to read about this great man and be inspired:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Niem%C3%B6ller

HELP AWAKEN THE SLEEPING GIANT- THE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO PASSED
DSHEA IN '94!!

Friends- I'll never forget the 5 year long battle to pass the Dietary
Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994. I'll never forget it
because at that time the FDA was very busy raiding everyone in sight-
they raided health food stores, alternative medical practitioners and
vitamin companies under David Kessler's reign of terror.

They, and their "quackbuster" allies were on a quest to NUKE the
dietary supplement industry into OBLIVION, and they came VERY CLOSE to
succeeding.

In 1993, Gary J. Dykstra, Deputy Associate Commissioner of Regulatory
Affairs for FDA published an infamous Advance Notice of Proposed
Rulemaking which clearly indicated that the FDA intended to use the
Nutrition Labelling and Education Act of 1990 to repeal the Proxmire
Vitamin Act of 1976- to ban consumer access to high potency vitamins
and minerals, to ban amino acids as "unsafe food additives", and to
attack herbal products as "unapproved drugs".

Mel Gibson and many other celebrities joined forces with the American
people to read the RIOT ACT to Congress, and it needs to happen
AGAIN!

The task before us TODAY is not the SAME as it was in the early '90s,
however. What is DIFFERENT today is that pharmaceutical interests are
HEAVILY CONTROLLING the dietary supplement trade associations and
they're doing major SPIN against the message of IAHF and allied
groups.

Due to this, IAHF needs your HELP in the following ways:

1. We need you to urge everyone you know to sign on to the IAHF email
distribution list at http://www.iahf.com and to get involved with our
grass roots effort to awaken the sleeping giant- the millions of
Americans who helped pass DSHEA, because FDA is trying to make an END
RUN around it via the Trilateral Cooperation Charter and CODEX.

2. We need you to forward this email to everyone you know, but first
remember to delete the unsub link at the bottom so no one will click
on it and unsub YOU from the IAHF list!

3. We need you to make copies of Jerry Corsi's article and to get it
around to every health food store in your area and to ask the store
owners and managers to call me at 800-333-2553 because they should
QUIT the Natural Products Assn (in Canada they should quit CHFA).

4. IAHF will be presenting at the Total Health Show in Toronto,
Ontario Canada April 13-15 http://www.consumerhealth.org/tothealth/
where we'll be part of a Panel discussion with several of our closest
health freedom allies to bring this urgent message to the public. Your
donations are urgently needed to help pay for this trip and for trips
to DC and elsewhere as we go into HIGH GEAR to get our message out!

If you've sent a donation and are waiting for books and DVDs, I just
sent a pile out in yesterday's mail by Priority Mail so they'll be
arriving soon, thanks for your patience and ongoing support!! We're
sending out copies of Byron Richard's book Fight for Your Health-
Exposing the FDA's Betrayal of America, and Kevin Miller's DVD "We
Become Silent" a hard hitting expose on the Codex vitamin issue. If
you already got yours, please get more and share with friends! $25.
donation for each... $50 for both.... please send More if you can, it
will help us get the word out FASTER!

IAHF

556 Boundary Bay Rd.

Point Roberts WA 98281 USA

paypal http://www.iahf.com/index1.html

For Health Freedom, John C. Hammell, President International Advocates
for Health Freedom 556 Boundary Bay Road Point Roberts, WA 98281-8702
USA http://www.iahf.com jham@iahf.com 800-333-2553 N.America
360-945-0352 World
PeterB - 05 Apr 2007 15:40 GMT
On Apr 4, 10:55 pm, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

John and I have talked into the wee hours of the morning discussing
all this, and I asked him to get back into the fray several years ago
following his hiatus.  I admire John for his hard work and ferocity,
but in terms of what is the best approach for getting the public
involved, we have gone our separate ways.  In my view, John is
distracted by too many concerns that have nothing to do with CODEX,
and his request for funds to pay for his own presentations is actually
doing more harm than good at this stage of the game.  I believe it
time for him to get out of the way and to support ANH directly.  There
is only one course of action now that matters if we are to see a fair
and balanced CODEX, and that is through a set of legal battles playing
out in the courts under the direction of ANH (Alliance for Natural
Health) and funded by a crucial grass roots campaign.  Although ANH is
in the UK, it represents the interests of Americans and every other
nation whose consumer access to natural health products is under
threat as a result of WTO membership and finalization of CODEX.  John
is well aware of all this and better informed than most, but
sponsoring IAHF activities is now a liability because progress on this
important issue has reached the status of legal demands, not simply PR
work.  If you want to help, stop sending people to IAHF and send them
to the ANH website and forget signing petitions.  The page at
http://www.alliance-natural-health.org/index.cfm?action=consumers will
explain everything anyone needs to know in the least time possible,
and I urge everyone on mha to read it and pass along this message.

PeterB
libertysilver@gmail.com - 07 Apr 2007 23:05 GMT
> On Apr 4, 10:55 pm, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
> PeterB

_______________________________________-
Peter B,

Hammell is speaking alongside ANH in Toronto.
ANH Works with IAHF.
Where are you coming from, besides stopping forward motion?

John Hammell of IAHF responds to PeterB's nonsense:

IAHF will be presenting in Toronto Ontario Canada April 13-15
alongside Rob Verkerk of ANH, Scott Tips of NHF and several other
health freedom
fighters, all of whom are working together and collaborating on a
regular basis. See "Panel 3" under "Special Presentations"
http://www.consumerhealth.org/tothealth/

Rob Verkerk of ANH does not view their work in the UK and Europe as
being more important than IAHF's work in North America to expose and
stop
the FDA's Trilateral Cooperation Charter, he views these efforts as
being equally important, recognizing that the Codex threat is coming
at us from more than one angle. He'll be discussing this in the
keynote speach that he'll be delivering at the Total Health Show. His
speach will not focus solely on ANH's legal campaign in Europe. A WTO
trade dispute is not the sole means by which a country can be
harmonized to Codex, in fact, it may not even be the most likely
means- that is a legal grey area.

Peter B obviously fails to grasp that the FDA's Trilateral Cooperation
Charter is the means by which the FDA intends to usher Codex
restrictions into North America. He obviously fails to grasp that the
FDA's Trilateral Cooperation Charter has been acting as if a North
American Union were already in place. He obviously has not examined
the overly broad definition of "Health Fraud" contained within the
Trilateral Cooperation Charter- a definition which turns any substance
that has any physiological effect in the body into a "drug".
http://www.fda.gov/oia/charter.html He obviously fails to grasp the
implications of the M.U.C.H (Mexico-U.S.-Canada-Health Fraud Working
Group of the Trilateral Cooperation Charter) initiating more than 730
enforcement actions against dietary supplement companies over sale of
weight loss products by 2005.

There is nothing wrong with IAHF's strategy of pushing for
Congressional Oversight on the FDA's Trilateral Cooperation Charter as
a way of triggering additional oversight on the threatened North
American Union- both obviously threaten to scuttle the Dietary
Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994, setting the stage for
Canada/US/Mexico to be harmonized to Codex. IAHF's work is very
necessary, especially given the spin against it by the pharma
dominated vitamin trade associations which are doing nothing to oppose
Codex or regional harmonization which threatens to usher Codex in to
the USA.

ANH's legal campaign in Europe is without question important. If it
weren't, IAHF would not have done the fund raising to support it that
they did for a very long time, or made 3 trips to the UK and Europe to
work directly alongside Rob Verkerk- however it is not the only battle
being fought within the global health freedom movement.

It is the most important battle for anyone living in the EU, but it is
NOT the most important battle for people living in Canada, the US or
Mexico. Similarly, it is NOT the most important battle for people
living in New Zealand who are currently attempting to fend off the
yoke of Australian harmonization pressure. IAHF made three trips to
the UK and Europe to work directly with ANH to assist with their legal
efforts, but now IAHF recognizes the need to focus attention on
matters much closer to home. ANH understands this completely.

The big question in my mind here is who the hell is Peter B, and what
country is he in? What is his phone number? I'd really like to discuss
this with him in real time. As for my supposed "hiatus", I never left
the fray. I don't have that luxury. I have a genetic need for the
supplements I use and my back is to the wall. Anyone who knows me
realizes this. I was active behind the scenes for a 7 month period
during which time I was not visibly active to people on the IAHF list.
Just because there was a period of time a few years ago in which I
wasn't sending emails to the IAHF list doesn't mean I ever left the
fray- I was communicating extensively within the inner sanctum of
activists around the world with whom I work most closely, doing some
very important work that I wasn't at liberty to discuss publicly.

Given that Rob Verkerk of ANH, Scott Tips of NHF, Marilyn Nelson of
Freedom in Canadian Health Care and others in
our inner sanctum group of health freedom leaders around the world
don't share Peter B's momentous conclusions about the work and
direction of IAHF , why should anyone else take him seriously? Who is
he, and by what authority does he presume to speak? I am offended by
his ignorant comments and would appreciate an immediate apology. I
would also like to know his phone number, physical address and email
address.
Mark Probert - 08 Apr 2007 04:06 GMT
>> On Apr 4, 10:55 pm, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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> Hammell is speaking alongside ANH in Toronto.
> ANH Works with IAHF.

Just makesurfe he distances himself from Timmy Bolen, who lives in a forest.

> Where are you coming from, besides stopping forward motion?

Fantasy Land. Petey is a plant from BigSupplement.

> John Hammell of IAHF responds to PeterB's nonsense:
>
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> would also like to know his phone number, physical address and email
> address.
PeterB - 08 Apr 2007 04:23 GMT
On Apr 7, 5:05 pm, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > On Apr 4, 10:55 pm, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> ANH Works with IAHF.
> Where are you coming from, besides stopping forward motion?

I have chosen to focus on the efforts of ANH because in my view the
CODEX represents the most imminent threat to consumers.  If John can
bring attention to the corruption at FDA and other American issues
without distracting from the important legal work of ANH, I support
that.  Unfortunately, it has seemed to me that John's theatrics are
such a distraction.

> John Hammell of IAHF responds to PeterB's nonsense:
>
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>
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libertysilver@gmail.com - 08 Apr 2007 06:44 GMT
> On Apr 7, 5:05 pm, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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Are you a US citizen PeterB?
libertysilver@gmail.com - 08 Apr 2007 07:57 GMT
> On Apr 7, 5:05 pm, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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It seems to me that YOU are a distraction.  I am sure that
the 1700 or so people that read this might have the same impression,
if you undermine an effective effort
to fight for liberty. Hammell is in the Freedom Force
Hall of Honor.  What are your cards if you don't mind me asking?
David Wright - 08 Apr 2007 19:01 GMT
>> On Apr 7, 5:05 pm, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>It seems to me that YOU are a distraction.  I am sure that
>the 1700 or so people that read this might have the same impression,

This person doesn't.  I think Hammell and his ilk are distractions.

>if you undermine an effective effort
>to fight for liberty. Hammell is in the Freedom Force
>Hall of Honor.

A sterling endorsement, I daresay.  However, given Hammell's previous
efforts in which he tilted at a variety of windmills, he has a bit of
a credibility problem.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "HPV shots don't cause promiscuity.  Tequila shots do." -- Bill Maher
Jan Drew - 09 Apr 2007 00:54 GMT
>>> On Apr 7, 5:05 pm, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>
> This person doesn't.  I think Hammell and his ilk are distractions.

What a surprise....NOT.

>>if you undermine an effective effort
>>to fight for liberty. Hammell is in the Freedom Force
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> efforts in which he tilted at a variety of windmills, he has a bit of
> a credibility problem.

YOU have a problem it's called believing the LIES of *organized medicine*.

OTOH, John Hammell is honest and tells it like it is.

http://www.newstarget.com/z020764.html

http://www.newstarget.com/z020797.html

>  -- David Wright
libertysilver - 09 Apr 2007 01:23 GMT
> > In article <1176015443.539349.52...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> > libertysil...@gmail.com <incomeg...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Thanks from the ilk (trying to protect our health freedom)
(laugh)
Here's the petition site again,  56 more to go to 10,000.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/373269232?ltl=1176077574
Peter Bowditch - 09 Apr 2007 07:10 GMT
>OTOH, John Hammell is honest and tells it like it is.

Here is John Hammell in one of his more lucid moments, describing
people like me who

"are in constant communication with the FDA, and the FDA's
international counterparts which are all networked via the UN's
International Council on Drug Regulating Authorities- which is run
directly by the Council- the Illuminati- the small group who seek
total control of our lives and who are pushing very hard now to impose
a dictatorial world government on us via the UN, whose chief is Satan,
the father of lies- who is making a major bid right now to control all
of our souls as he seeks to force us into a microchipped,
psychocivilized society under mind control"

What a loon!
Signature

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Jan Drew - 09 Apr 2007 00:47 GMT
"libertysilver@gmail.com" <incomegena@gmail.com> wrote :

> It seems to me that YOU are a distraction.

Then...use your killfile.

I am sure that
> the 1700 or so people that read this might have the same impression,

Impossible to be sure while using the word might....
PeterB - 09 Apr 2007 16:19 GMT
On Apr 8, 2:57 am, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > On Apr 7, 5:05 pm, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> It seems to me that YOU are a distraction.  I am sure that
> the 1700 or so people that read this might have the same impression...

I don't believe that discussing options is ever a distraction.  As a
health activist, I have been posting to mha for several years about
these and other health issues.

> if you undermine an effective effort
> to fight for liberty. Hammell is in the Freedom Force
> Hall of Honor.  What are your cards if you don't mind me asking?

Logic.
libertysilver - 10 Apr 2007 00:02 GMT
> On Apr 8, 2:57 am, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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Peter B,
Discussing options is a lot different than an attack on someones
character.
I am all for discussing options.  But in an environment
such as this, I think it is important to remember that
most of us want the same thing, the ability to continue to
have access to supplements and the right to determine what actions to
take regarding our health.
I am interested in making sure we don't lose that right.
I know for sure that is what John Hammell is interested
in, and he is one of the most active people on this planet
working to protect that right.
And I think you probably are interested in that too.
I realize that there are numerous projects to protecting our
freedoms, and many are valid.  ANH is a great group of people and so
is IAHF.  They are not contrary to one another. Nor do they distract
one another.
I don't see how downgrading anothers project is
a constructive discussion.
Please don't try to undermine someone who is
and has helped for so many years.
This does not help anyone.
I really have no beef with you except that one point.
So lets just end this nonsense, and get on with
something more positive, ok? Like raising peoples
awareness on the issues that confront us and
what we can do about it.
I am all for discussing that.
libertysilver.
libertysilver - 10 Apr 2007 00:23 GMT
> > On Apr 8, 2:57 am, "libertysil...@gmail.com" <incomeg...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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Here is an excellent article on to shed some light on "why"
this petition is so important:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55028

The petition broke 10,000 signatures today, so that is
great news.  Let's go for 20,000 now.

Here's the petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/373269232?ltl=1176077574
PeterB - 10 Apr 2007 14:31 GMT
> > > It seems to me that YOU are a distraction.  I am sure that
> > > the 1700 or so people that read this might have the same impression...
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> Discussing options is a lot different than an attack on someones
> character.

This is not about John Hammell and none of my comments were an attack
on his character.  The best use of public resources in the fight to
achieve a balanced CODEX is through the legal efforts of ANH.  I do
not believe such statements "undermine" the efforts of IAHF to raise
public awareness about the proposed North American Union and the
FTAA.  On the IAHF website under the "Take Action Here" link, John
says "we can only stop Codex from being forced on us if we can
preserve our sovereignty."  This, in my view, represents the
distraction.  Regardless of FTAA passage, America's WTO membership
will not be annuled and it will not escape the affects of CODEX simply
because of a petition.  The American Congress is not asleep on these
issues, they are party to them.  ANH is the best hope we have in terms
of balancing the affects of CODEX, and nothing, absolutely nothing, is
going to stop CODEX from reaching American shores.

I am aware of John's collaboration with Verkerk and the others and I
applaud whatever synergies they have together.  I don't subscribe to
John's view of an "inner sanctum," however, as I find that language to
be elitist.  In his role as "one of many," he should not feel
contemptuous toward those who suggest a more democratic presentation
to readers.  A reference to the work of ANH and a link to them in his
fund-raising area would be evidence of a shared mission.  I like the
petition, however any suggestion that America might avoid CODEX is
simply wishful thinking.   But good luck in collecting signatures if
you think that will make a difference.

> I am all for discussing options.  But in an environment
> such as this, I think it is important to remember that
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> I am all for discussing that.
> libertysilver.
 
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