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Anyone use high dose vitamin C ?

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Ghamph - 06 Mar 2007 01:39 GMT
I've read that large dose vitamin C might treat many ailments.  Anyone ever
try it ?  Large dose meaning +18 grams (1800 milligrams) per day.
Jamffer
Pramesh Rutajit - 06 Mar 2007 03:20 GMT
> I've read that large dose vitamin C might treat many ailments.  Anyone
> ever
> try it ?  Large dose meaning +18 grams (1800 milligrams) per day.
> Jamffer

18 grams is 18,000 mg.  I currently use 6 grams/day and have used 10
grams/day.  I have nothing negative or positive to report.

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David Wright - 06 Mar 2007 04:42 GMT
>I've read that large dose vitamin C might treat many ailments.  Anyone ever
>try it ?  Large dose meaning +18 grams (1800 milligrams) per day.
>Jamffer

I think you mean 18,000 milligrams per day.  With many people, even if
that dose is spread out evenly across the day, it's enough to cause
diarrhea.

As for "anyone ever try it," what, are you trolling?  Zillions of
people have tried it.

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Ghamph - 06 Mar 2007 05:20 GMT
> >I've read that large dose vitamin C might treat many ailments.  Anyone ever
> >try it ?  Large dose meaning +18 grams (1800 milligrams) per day.
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>      These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
>      "HPV shots don't cause promiscuity.  Tequila shots do." -- Bill Maher

Sorry about leaving off the zero 18,000 milligrams or 18 grams.  My
tolerance level is 13.5 grams (one dose) at present any more and I take a
two minute trip to the bathroom.   I have done as much as 35 grams in spaced
doses (6) over 12 hours with only slight gas.  Normally I don't do over 6
grams per serving because of the gas.  For me it works as a decongestant.  4
grams don't work as well as 5 or 6 for me per serving.
I am not advocating anyone do what I do , because one should do some
research , before getting out the blender and dumping in a handful of
C.
I take multivitamin-mineral supplement and consume a lot of dairy products.
Only take C every other day.  If I do only 5 or 6 grams per serving there
are only slight gas effects.  I put them in the blender with 8 oz. water and
tang or some other citrus powder mix.  Tastes pretty good , only very tangy.
Jamffer
Ghamph - 06 Mar 2007 05:32 GMT
> I've read that large dose vitamin C might treat many ailments.  Anyone ever
> try it ?  Large dose meaning +18 grams (18,000 milligrams) per day.
> Jamffer

Note:  Only trying to find out if anybody is as crazy as me , and whether
they had any negative consequences.
So far so good for me.  And no , I don't sell vitamins.
Jamffer
Vernon - 06 Mar 2007 15:02 GMT
>> I've read that large dose vitamin C might treat many ailments.  Anyone
> ever
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> So far so good for me.  And no , I don't sell vitamins.
> Jamffer

C is one of those nutrients that flushes (the reason for the running to the
toilet)
It should be spread throughout the day.

Ester C is easier on the system and is basically the equivalent of time
release.
D. C. Sessions - 07 Mar 2007 02:15 GMT
> I've read that large dose vitamin C might treat many ailments.  Anyone ever
> try it ?  Large dose meaning +18 grams (1800 milligrams) per day.

Based on an extremely unscientific sample of two people and two
trials each, 3 grams per day was followed four out of four times
by kidney stones.  No stones reported in more than 100 life-years
except when taking large doses of ascorbic acid.

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PeterB - 15 Mar 2007 20:52 GMT
> In message <12uphhtj2534...@corp.supernews.com>, Ghamph wrote:
>
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> by kidney stones.  No stones reported in more than 100 life-years
> except when taking large doses of ascorbic acid.

As usual, these fairy tales are nonsense.  The idea that vitamin C
causes kidney stones has been soundly disproven over the years.  [ref.
http://www.usaweekend.com/03_issues/030511/030511eatsmart.html.]

PeterB
Vernon - 16 Mar 2007 00:39 GMT
>> In message <12uphhtj2534...@corp.supernews.com>, Ghamph wrote:
>>
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>
> PeterB

Base of most anecdotal expositions as above.

Sick people have a higher probability of being sick after taking any
medicine or supplement.

I have been taking 3 grams or more for several years and my kidneys are
fine.
PeterB - 16 Mar 2007 18:33 GMT
> >> In message <12uphhtj2534...@corp.supernews.com>, Ghamph wrote:
>
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> Sick people have a higher probability of being sick after taking any
> medicine or supplement.

Exactly.  Some people are more prone to accumulating oxalate, as well.

> I have been taking 3 grams or more for several years and my kidneys are
> fine.

I take 600mg daily and might go higher, maybe top out around 1.5g
daily.
Vernon - 16 Mar 2007 19:17 GMT
>> >> In message <12uphhtj2534...@corp.supernews.com>, Ghamph wrote:
>>
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> I take 600mg daily and might go higher, maybe top out around 1.5g
> daily.

Coincident with C is Lysine and Magnesium.

To make my other statement clearer.
A higher percentage of people who take chemotherapy die of cancer than those
who don't take chemo.
The reason?
Only people with cancer take chemo.
PeterB - 16 Mar 2007 19:30 GMT
> >> "PeterB" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> Coincident with C is Lysine and Magnesium.

For cardio?

> To make my other statement clearer.
> A higher percentage of people who take chemotherapy die of cancer than those
> who don't take chemo.
> The reason?
> Only people with cancer take chemo.

You could do a study proving that vitamins are the primary cause of
death thinking like that. ;o)
Vernon - 16 Mar 2007 21:13 GMT
>> >> "PeterB" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
>>
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>
> For cardio?

Yes, but mostly because I have found research shows the combo to be
productive in overall health, circulation, mental capacity.

>> To make my other statement clearer.
>> A higher percentage of people who take chemotherapy die of cancer than
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> You could do a study proving that vitamins are the primary cause of
> death thinking like that. ;o)

As a matter of statistics, a high probability.
People who take supplements are of a mix of higher probability to have
endemic problems.
PeterB - 27 Mar 2007 18:33 GMT
> >> "PeterB" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> Yes, but mostly because I have found research shows the combo to be
> productive in overall health, circulation, mental capacity.

I personally go for the shotgun approach, but those are good uses.

> >> To make my other statement clearer.
> >> A higher percentage of people who take chemotherapy die of cancer than
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> People who take supplements are of a mix of higher probability to have
> endemic problems.

That would be interesting in light of naysayers who like to suggest
that people who take supplements are generally *more* healthy to begin
with, possibly explaining their overall better health in the process.
Even if it were true (and I don't think it is), it would not negate
the evidence that supplemental vitamin C (for one) has been associated
with reduced all-cause mortality even after adjusting for lifestyle
factors (see Passwater studies.)  I suppose there could be a subset of
supplement takers who are indeed more prone to illness (just as those
who take more medication would be), but I haven't seen any evidence
that this is generally true.
 
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