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ironjustice@aol.com - 05 Mar 2007 14:46 GMT
Diabetologia. 2007 Mar 2; [Epub ahead of print]Elevated serum
ferritin
levels predict new-onset type 2 diabetes: results from the EPIC-
Norfolk prospective study.Forouhi NG, Harding AH, Allison M, Sandhu
MS, Welch A, Luben R, Bingham S, Khaw KT, Wareham NJ.
MRC Epidemiology Unit, Elsie Widdowson Laboratories, Fulbourn Road,
Cambridge, CB1 9NL, UK, nita.foro...@mrc-epid.cam.ac.uk.

AIMS/HYPOTHESIS: The aim of this study was to examine the association
between baseline body iron stores and new-onset diabetes. SUBJECTS
AND
METHODS: We studied the association between baseline serum ferritin
concentration and type 2 diabetes in 360 clinically incident diabetes
cases and 758 controls nested within the EPIC (European Prospective
Investigation of Cancer)-Norfolk Cohort Study. Serum ferritin levels
were categorised into five groups: sex-specific quartiles of the
normal range of ferritin and a group with clinically raised ferritin
below levels indicative of haemochromatosis. RESULTS: Baseline serum
ferritin was higher among cases than control participants (geometric
mean: men 96.6 vs 67.8 ng/ml, respectively, p < 0.001; women 45.9 vs
34.8 ng/ml, respectively, p = 0.005). In analyses adjusted for known
risk factors (age, BMI, sex, family history, physical activity,
smoking habit) and dietary factors measured by 7-day food diary, the
risk of diabetes was markedly elevated in participants with
clinically
raised ferritin compared with the lowest quartile (odds ratio [OR]
7.4, 95% CI 3.5-15.4). Further adjustment for potential confounding
by
inflammation (C-reactive protein, IL-6 and fibrinogen) had no
material
impact on the observed association, while adjustment for hepatic
enzymes (alanine aminotransferase and gamma glutamyl transferase) and
adiponectin attenuated the magnitude of association, but it remained
statistically significant (OR 3.2 [1.3-7.6]). CONCLUSIONS/
INTERPRETATION: Serum ferritin is an important and independent
predictor of the development of diabetes. This finding may have
important implications for understanding the aetiology of diabetes.

PMID: 17333112 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

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redbear55@bigmailbox.net - 05 Mar 2007 17:45 GMT
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=62280

Low Iron Could Help Spur Baldness
WEDNESDAY, May 31 (HealthDay News) -- Could iron deficiency be key to
baldness?

The answer is yes, according to researchers at the Cleveland Clinic,
who reviewed scientific literature on the connection published over
the past 40 years.

"If doctors can understand fully the relationship between iron
deficiency and hair loss, then they can help people regrow hair more
effectively," study leader Dr. Wilma Bergfeld, head of clinical
research in the department of dermatology, said in a prepared
statement. "We believe that iron deficiency may be related to many
forms of hair loss and that people may need higher levels of iron
stores than previously thought to regrow hair."

The review of data suggests that iron deficiency may be linked to
several of the most common kinds of hair loss. However, there is not
enough evidence to suggest universal screening for iron deficiency in
hair-loss patients and further research is required, the researchers
said.

The findings appear in the May issue of the Journal of the American
Academy of Dermatology.

Iron deficiency is the world's most common nutritional deficiency. It
can be caused by inadequate dietary intake of iron, excessive
menstrual bleeding, and other forms of blood loss. Treatment includes
adequate dietary intake of iron and, when appropriate, iron
supplements.

Doctors at the Cleveland Clinic routinely screen for iron deficiency
in patients with hair loss. If iron deficiency is detected and treated
in the early stages, patients may be able to grow hair more
effectively, the researchers said.

-- Robert Preidt

SOURCE: Cleveland Clinic, news release, May 15, 2006
ironjustice - 05 Mar 2007 19:04 GMT
On Mar 5, 9:45 am, "redbea...@bigmailbox.net" <l...@inorbit.com>
wrote:
> http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=62280
>
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>
> SOURCE: Cleveland Clinic, news release, May 15, 2006

When was the last time you seen an .. iron deficient .. man .. ?

They don't exist ..

Baldness does .. at a very high rate .. very high rate ..

Men are NEVER iron deficient .. sooo .. the numbers don't add .. up ..

And again the Framington study confirmed high rate of iron excess as
opposed to ANY iron deficiency at .. all ..

Last year, Richard Wood, a Tufts University nutrition expert, and his
colleagues analyzed blood iron levels in more than 1,000 men and
women, ages 67 to 96, in the landmark, long-term Framingham Heart
Study. While 2.7% had abnormally low levels of iron, more than four
times that many -- 12.9% -- had too much of the mineral, according to
the research, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20021007/ai_n10838995

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Manky Badger - 05 Mar 2007 21:03 GMT
> When was the last time you seen an .. iron deficient .. man .. ?
>
> They don't exist ..

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1471-0528.1964.tb04380.x
TREATMENT OF 300 CASES OF IRON DEFICIENCY OF PREGNANCY BY TOTAL DOSE
INFUSION OF IRON-DEXTRAN COMPLEX

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/314/7075/206
Lesson of the week: prevalence of concomitant disease in patients with iron
deficiency anaemia

http://www.springerlink.com/content/t0m6108882744p53/
Porphyrin synthesis and metabolism in iron deficiency anaemia. I.
In-vivo-studies

http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/nmc/46/12/46_589/_article
     Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis Associated With Iron Deficiency
     -Two Case Reports-

Found these in two minutes. I'm sure there's a few more out there. Even the
article you posted says "Iron deficiency is a significant problem for many
people"
ironjustice - 05 Mar 2007 23:47 GMT
>>Found these in two minutes. I'm sure there's a few more out there. Even the
article you posted says "Iron deficiency is a significant problem for
many
people"

When was the last time you seen an .. iron deficient .. man .. ?

They don't exist ..

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1471-0528.1964.tb0...
TREATMENT OF 300 CASES OF IRON DEFICIENCY OF PREGNANCY BY TOTAL DOSE
INFUSION OF IRON-DEXTRAN COMPLEX <<

Pregnant .. men .. ?

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Manky Badger - 06 Mar 2007 08:40 GMT
>>>Found these in two minutes. I'm sure there's a few more out there. Even
>>>the
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>
> Pregnant .. men .. ?

And the other examples?
ironjustice@aol.com - 06 Mar 2007 15:30 GMT
>>On Mar 6, 12:40 am, "Manky Badger" And the other examples<<

I believe you have .. already .. HAVE had this explained to you ..

Hasn't .. it .. ?

You've already been shown the studies ..

Yet .. you AGAIN .. ask the same .. question ..

Why IS .. that .. ?

You didn't like the first .. explanation .. ?

You don't .. BELIEVE .. the first explanation .. ?

You figure I am going to CHANGE .. the explanation .. ?

They've been killing the womens' children in the womb by giving them
this iron .. attempting to achieve a "nice high hemoglobin" .. sooo ..
UNTIL you show the OUTCOME .. of those studies .. IE: birth outcome ..
then your 'questioning' of ME .. is either .. one driven by your ..
BEING .. a jrkff / dldo / fkdinthheadscrwbll / medical professional ..
OR .. one driven by an **inability to understand** and / or
**remember** .. stuff ..

Sooo .. either way .. just stay off my threads ..

You are too stupid .. or a fkdinthheadscrwbll ..

Healthy Pregnant Women's Iron Intake Advice Too High

Main Category: Pregnancy News
Article Date: 01 Jun 2006 - 2:00am (PDT)

A new study conducted by researchers at Children's Hospital Oakland
Research Institute (CHORI), in close collaboration with scientists at
the National Institute of Perinatology in Mexico, is the first to
show
that the current iron supplement recommendation for pregnant women
who
are not anemic is too high and could lead to birth complications for
infants such as premature birth and low birth weight. This new
research
conflicts with recommendations from the World Health Organization
(WHO)
and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). It is hoped that the
results
of this study will lead to new recommendations from both
organizations.

The study, featured in the May issue of Archives of Medical Research,
suggests that pregnant women who are not anemic should take iron
supplements weekly rather than daily. Women who are anemic have low
levels of healthy red blood cells and need higher doses of iron
supplementation. The study shows that pregnant women who are not
anemic
and follow the recommended daily dosage can suffer from iron overload
and are more likely to experience birth complications.

Iron deficiency is common among women of childbearing age.
Consequently, doctors have ordered daily supplements of 60 to 120 mg
of
iron to prevent or correct anemia and iron deficiency during
pregnancy.

"What happens is that excess iron in pregnancy can drive the
hemoglobin
levels above desirable levels, so that by the end of the second
trimester of pregnancy, 27 percent of the non-anemic women in our
study
had hemoglobin levels that were undesirably high," said Fernando
Viteri, MD, Scientist at Children's Hospital Oakland Research
Institute
(CHORI). "In these women, the risk of delivering premature babies or
newborns with low birth weight quadrupled."

In contrast, only 7 percent of the women on weekly supplements
developed high hemoglobin levels. The reason for the weekly dose -
and
in far smaller amounts - is biological and corresponds with the
turnover of the intestinal lining, which renews itself every five to
six days. The fresh cells are programmed to absorb iron according to
the person's iron reserves and needs. The cells absorb more if
reserves
are depleted and less if they are adequate. Dr. Viteri's research
concludes that iron supplementation is still beneficial, but must be
regulated based on whether a woman is anemic.

About Children's Hospital & Research Center Oakland

Children's Hospital & Research Center Oakland is a designated Level I
pediatric trauma center and the largest pediatric critical care
facility in the region. The hospital has 181 licensed beds and 166
hospital-based physicians in 31 specialties, more than two thousand
five hundred employees, and an operating budget of $287 million. The
hospital's research institute has an annual budget of $41 million
with
more than 300 basic and clinic investigators. Children's Hospital
Oakland Research Institute (CHORI) has made significant progress in
areas including pediatric obesity, cancers, sickle cell disease,
AIDS/HIV, hemophilia and cystic fibrosis.

Diana Yee
d...@mail.cho.org
Children's Hospital & Research Center at Oakland
http://www.childrenshospitaloakland.org

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Association between higher cumulative doses of recombinant
erythropoietin and risk for retinopathy of prematurity.
Brown MS, Barón AE, France EK, Hamman RF
J AAPOS. 2006 Apr ; 10(2): 143-9

BACKGROUND: Retinopathy of prematurity is a complication of premature
birth that varies in its severity. The incidence and severity of
retinopathy of prematurity at our perinatal center in a regional
referral hospital changed substantially during 1995 to 1998 and
presented us with an opportunity to examine whether there was a
protective effect on risk of retinopathy associated with exposure to
recombinant erythropoietin. METHODS: We undertook a retrospective
cohort study. From January 1995 through December 1998, charts of
infants weighing<1500 g, who were 30 weeks' gestation or less, and
who
were admitted and survived to the first eye examination at 6 weeks
were
reviewed. Primary and secondary risk factors were recorded from the
first 6 weeks of life. Of the eligible infants, 327 of 390 (84%) had
complete records and retinal examinations. The probability for
progression of retinopathy was estimated by logistic regression
multivariate analysis using the continuation-ratio model. RESULTS:
The
overall incidence of retinopathy of prematurity was 36%. Recombinant
erythropoietin exposure, as total 6-week dose, was independently
associated with an increased risk for progression of retinopathy,
OR=1.27 per 500 units/kg (95%CI=1.04, 1.55, P=0.02). Postnatal day of
recombinant erythropoietin initiation also was associated with
retinopathy risk but did not reach conventional statistical
significance, OR=1.07 (CI=1.00, 1.14, P=0.07). CONCLUSIONS: These
findings identify an association between cumulative recombinant
erythropoietin exposure, used to reduce blood transfusions in
premature
infants, and an increased risk for retinopathy of prematurity. The
nonhematopoietic properties of erythropoietin may account for the
above
findings, however further evaluation with confirmation is required.

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Manky Badger - 06 Mar 2007 15:41 GMT
>>On Mar 6, 12:40 am, "Manky Badger" And the other examples<<

They've been killing the womens' children in the womb by giving them
this iron .. attempting to achieve a "nice high hemoglobin" .. sooo ..
UNTIL you show the OUTCOME .. of those studies .. IE: birth outcome ..
then your 'questioning' of ME .. is either .. one driven by your ..
BEING .. a jrkff / dldo / fkdinthheadscrwbll / medical professional ..
OR .. one driven by an **inability to understand** and / or
**remember** .. stuff ..

___________________________________________

Don't you think that *if* there is anything in this anti-iron theory of
yours you would get far more credibility if you were to attempt to discuss
the matter rationally rather than posting an article which actually goes
against the conclusion you assign to it. And then resorting to purile
insults when evidence fails you?
"fkdinthheadscrwbll" is a new one, I quite like being a
"fkdinthheadscrwbll", especially one who sees no reason to change my views
on iron therapies.
sadhant@gmail.com - 06 Mar 2007 16:05 GMT
> <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
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> "fkdinthheadscrwbll", especially one who sees no reason to change my views
> on iron therapies.

is it my iron levels being too high that causes me to act like a
fkdinthheadscrwbll?

or am i just a jrkff?
ironjustice@aol.com - 06 Mar 2007 16:40 GMT
>>especially one who sees no reason to change my views
on iron therapies<<

Actually .. you see the thread .. ?

It is a simple .. thread .. medical study .. CONFIRMING what was said
over a year and a half ago .. by ME ..

http://tinyurl.com/3asena

The iron levels predicted the diabetes ..

Simple .. really ..

And you were ON this thread FOR a .. reason .. ?

To say something about the iron deficiency IN these diabetics / people
with diabetes .. ?

What iron deficiency .. ?

There was iron **excess** .. in these people who develope diabetes ..

You disagree there is NOT ..?

Pretty much goes with the free floating iron they found in all
diabetics ..

Eh ..

That would be .. an .. association ..

But you can't seem to put two and two together .. ?

Now why is that .. ?

The clinical trial recruiting for iron reduction for diabetes seems to
have garnered enough attention to .. what .. ? fund a study of
reduction of iron in diabetes .. ?

The study seems to confirm somewhat the COMPETENCY of these
researchers ..

You disagree .. ?

That's because you are .. stupid ..

Isn't it ..

Heh .. heh ..

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Manky Badger - 06 Mar 2007 16:45 GMT
>>>especially one who sees no reason to change my views
> on iron therapies<<
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>
> The iron levels predicted the diabetes ..

Diabetes.... in a thread entitled "Low Iron Could Help Spur Baldness" -
you're losing it, Tom
Cheeky Bastard - 05 Mar 2007 21:46 GMT
> http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=62280
>
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>
> SOURCE: Cleveland Clinic, news release, May 15, 2006

The history of the word manure is so educationally and intellectually
stimulating, that I thought I should pass it on to the fine members of this
outstanding community who are truly appreciative of the finer things in
life.

Manure...The True Story

In the 16th and 17th centuries, everything had to be transported by ship and
it was also before commercial fertilizer's invention, so large shipments of
manure were common, at that time it was called a load of Berrier, by the
sailors.

It was shipped dry, because in dry form it weighed a lot less than when wet,
but once water (at sea) hit it, it not only became heavier, but the process
of fermentation began again, of which a by product is methane gas. As the
stuff was stored below decks in bundles you can see what could (and did)
happen.

Methane began to build up below decks and the first time someone came below
at night with a lantern, BOOOOM!

Several ships were destroyed in this manner before it was determined just
what was happening

After that, the bundles of manure were always stamped with the term "Ship
High In Transit" on them, which meant for the sailors to stow it high enough
off the lower decks so that any water that came into the hold would not
touch this volatile cargo and start the production of methane.

Thus evolved the term "S.H.I.T. " , (Ship High In Transport) which has come
down through the centuries and is in use to this very day.

You probably did not know the true history of this word.

Neither did I.

I had always thought it was a golf term!
David Wright - 06 Mar 2007 03:09 GMT
>The history of the word manure is so educationally and intellectually
>stimulating, that I thought I should pass it on to the fine members of this
>outstanding community who are truly appreciative of the finer things in
>life.
>
> Manure...The True Story

Lest anyone be misled, it isn't a true story.

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Cheeky Bastard - 06 Mar 2007 05:25 GMT
>>The history of the word manure is so educationally and intellectually
>>stimulating, that I thought I should pass it on to the fine members of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Lest anyone be misled, it isn't a true story.

But yet you support the spammer? LOL< @ Ahole

>  -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
>     These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
>     "HPV shots don't cause promiscuity.  Tequila shots do." -- Bill Maher
ironjustice@aol.com - 06 Mar 2007 16:14 GMT
>> But yet you support the spammer? LOL< @ Ahole<<

You disagree with the result of the study ..?

You are saying the iron levels did NOT .. predict the diabetes .. ?

That means you are .. stupid ..

You don't know what spam is .. you can't understand a medical study ..

????

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Manky Badger - 06 Mar 2007 16:21 GMT
>>> But yet you support the spammer? LOL< @ Ahole<<
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> You don't know what spam is .. you can't understand a medical study ..

He's laughing at you, Tommy.
David Wright - 07 Mar 2007 04:45 GMT
>>>The history of the word manure is so educationally and intellectually
>>>stimulating, that I thought I should pass it on to the fine members of
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>But yet you support the spammer?

No.  I also don't support nitwits like you who post 6000-line
articles.

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    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "HPV shots don't cause promiscuity.  Tequila shots do." -- Bill Maher
 
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