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Jane - 27 Jan 2007 14:23 GMT
I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
everything both conventional and non without success.

My chiropractor feels that for some reason my muscles are inflamed and
nothing we've tried (drugs, exercise, acupuncture or therapy) has been
able to get rid of the imflammation.

I wondered if there might be something I should be doing in my diet to
help.  Right now I eat five servings of fruit daily and two servings
of vegies.  I eat very little red meat but I do have a sweet tooth.  I
try to eat low fat sweets but there's still plenty of sugar.

I take fish oil tablets three times daily with meals.

I'm so tired of being in pain and taking more pills than I can count.  
I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks

Jane
David - 27 Jan 2007 14:44 GMT
Have you used Calcium and Magnesium?
>I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
> never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
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>
> Jane
vernon - 27 Jan 2007 18:25 GMT
> Have you used Calcium and Magnesium?

Yep a basic, also with vitamin D

>>I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
>> never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
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>>
>> Jane
Jane - 28 Jan 2007 00:57 GMT
Yup, I take calcium citrate with magnesium (250 mg 4x a day).  I've
taken it for at least four years.

> >I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
> > never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
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>
> > Jane
vernon - 27 Jan 2007 18:24 GMT
>I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
> never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
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> of vegies.  I eat very little red meat but I do have a sweet tooth.  I
> try to eat low fat sweets but there's still plenty of sugar.

Two servings of vegs doesn't seem like much, especially compared to five of
fruits.

Sugar is WAYYYY worse than fat except for maybe hydrogenated fats.
Sugar, whether from a teaspoon or fruit increases inflamation of any sort.

Red meat can actually help.  It is NOT a poison

There is a high probability that you are getting too much sugar (ratio)
(That includes fruits) and any basic problem you have is exacerbated.
(Too much for YOU)
Increase your greens and maybe take a strong B complex tablet.

> I take fish oil tablets three times daily with meals.

Some have a reaction to fish oils and some particular brands.
You say tablets.  I assume you mean capsules.
Why so much fish oil?

> I'm so tired of being in pain and taking more pills than I can count.
> I'd appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jane
Jane - 28 Jan 2007 00:55 GMT
I read that fish oil was an anti inflammatory.  I have not found it
has made me worse.  Yes, they are capsules.

> >I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
> > never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
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>
> > Jane
vernon - 28 Jan 2007 14:36 GMT
>I read that fish oil was an anti inflammatory.  I have not found it
> has made me worse.  Yes, they are capsules.

It is anti-inflamatory.  There are cases where some people are allergic to
some seafood included in some fish oil capsules.
"Fish oil" is generic.

>> >I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
>> > never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
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>> > Jane
jazon48@yahoo.com - 28 Jan 2007 12:54 GMT
> I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
> never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
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> nothing we've tried (drugs, exercise, acupuncture or therapy) has been
> able to get rid of the imflammation.
. . . .

> I'm so tired of being in pain and taking more pills than I can count.  
> I'd appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jane

 I had a similar problem.  It was so severe and chronic that I was
afraid that I would have to take disability retirement.

I finally went to a Physical Therapist at our local hospital.   He did
a work-up which included me lifting weights on various types of
Nautilus machines.

He found an exercise combo which completely solved my problem.   It
took several months and quite a bit of pain but he solved it.   Or
maybe you could say we solved it since he outlined the combo in detail
and sent me home to do the work.  I never saw him again.

I found that I must keep up with two of the exercises.   Six months of
slacking off and the pain starts to come back.

That was for my back.   I ran into a shoulder problem 15 years later
and had the same type of experience with his replacement.   The
shoulder treatment differed in that I had to stretch rubber tubing at
a certain angle while standing in a certain manner.  Unfortunately,  I
kept getting the angles wrong.   When I finally got everything right,  
the pain left in 3 days.

I interpret your post to mean that your chiropractor set up an
exercise regime which failed.    I wouldn't expect a chiropractor to
do anywhere near as well as a certified Physical Therapist when
dealing with muscles.

 -Jason
vernon - 28 Jan 2007 14:39 GMT
>> I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
>> never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
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>  -Jason

Chiropractor is a generic term, like Doctor.
Good, bad, great useless, positive, negative.
There (both) are NOT Gods and have only slightly more education in a narrow
field than you have.
Jane - 28 Jan 2007 17:52 GMT
First of all the problem was caused by a PT who did an inappropriate
adjustment and then failed to help me recover.  Since I had never had
a back problem I didn't realize what had happened until I was in very
bad shape.  I have since seen two chiropractors, a physiatrist (sp?),
a top notch pain clinic, acupuncture, Reike, hypnosis, Botox,
epidural, facet block, on and on and on.

I was getting PT on my knee from someone I really liked and decided to
let her try to help my back.  On the third visit she had me do what
seemed like a fairly benign exercise.  I felt a pinch and two days
later I went into spasms.  That was two weeks ago and I'm still in
spasms on and off now.  I haven't had these kind of spasms in over a
year - the kind that takes your breath away when you move the wrong
way.  I don't blame her at all.  I felt I had to try, but it just
didn't work.  I am walking a tightrope with my back.  One slight move
in the wrong direction and it can take months to get back to where I
was.

This is why I asked about food and inflammation.  I've been told by
several practitioners that my main problem is that the inflammation
just doesn't seem to want to go away.  NSAIDS help the pain somewhat
but don't give me any long term help.  Also I can't take them for long
because they hurt my stomach.

By the way - the chiropractor I see now is wonderful.  He completely
understands what can and cannot be done.  He helps me get through
these bad times and he has been the only one to give me any
significant relief without throwing drugs at me.  He has me on an
exercise program of stretching that I do daily.  I know it helps
because if I miss a day I notice it.

When I say I've tried everything I really meant it.

On Jan 28, 7:54 am, jazo...@yahoo.com wrote:

> > I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
> > never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
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>
>   -Jason
Roman Bystrianyk - 28 Jan 2007 16:33 GMT
Good day.

This article may be of help to you.  Enjoy your day.

Roman

http://www.healthsentinel.com/org_news.php?id=050&title=Inflammation+
%96+The+Root+of+All+Illness%3F&event=org_news_print_list_item

Roman Bystrianyk, "Inflammation - The Root of All Illness?", Health
Sentinel, July 27, 2005,

Inflammation is an integral part of the immune system. We're all
familiar with inflammation. When you're cut it becomes red and swollen
as a response by the immune system and as the cut heals the
inflammation dies down. A similar underlying, chronic, low-grade
inflammation is now being considered by more and more scientists as a
major cause of diseases not only for obvious diseases like arthritis
and asthma, but also for heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's, and
even cancer. A recent special edition of Newsweek examines this quiet
hazard.

Years ago oxidation was being considered as the main culprit in many
diseases. Now oxidation is grabbing more of the attention. According
to neuroscientist James Joseph of Tufts University, "Inflammation is
the evil twin of oxidation. Where you find one, you find the other."
This discovery is solving "medical puzzles" such as people with high
blood pressure have an increased risk for Alzheimer's or why people
with rheumatoid arthritis have higher rates of sudden cardiac death.
All these conditions are tied with a connecting thread of
inflammation.

When your cut heals the inflammation recedes, but constant exposure to
cigarette smoke, excess cholesterol, and low-grade infections can
contribute to a low-grade, chronic inflammation. The inflammation
simmers like, "a low flame on the back burner that we're unaware of
until the pot burns."

Diabetes has emerged as a recent example. The connection between type
II diabetes and obesity are so well known that some researchers
consider the two combined into a single disease of "diabesity".
According to the article, "When you gain weight, fat cells grow more
biochemically active, churning out inflammatory compounds. As obesity
ratchets up inflammation, inflammation in turn promotes insulin
resistance, a central feature of diabetes and the so-called metabolic
syndrome that precedes it."

Like diabetes, heart disease is linked with obesity. According to Dr.
Peter Libby, chief of cardiovascular medicine at Brigham and Women's
Hospital in Boston, "Inflammation is the alpha and omega of
atherosclerosis. It's there at every step of the process." In the
process plaque formation starts when cholesterol sticks to the artery
walls and oxidizes. This triggers an immune response that attempts to
clean up the problem. The inflammatory response is the body's attempt
to heal, but encourages the formation of larger plaques that can
eventually block the artery and result in a heart attack or stroke.

Certain cancers are also being linked to inflammation. According to
Lisa Coussens, a cancer biologist at the University of California in
San Francisco, "people with chronic inflammatory bowel diseases have
tremendously enhanced risk of colon cancer." Some triggers of
inflammation include, "cigarette smoke in the lungs, persistent
infections like hepatitis C in the liver and chronic heartburn, which
repeatedly irritates the lining of the esophagus with gastric acid."
The result includes oxidative damage to the DNA which sometimes
cripples the suicide mechanism of the cell that would often allow
abnormal cells to self-destruct.

Although anti-inflammatory medications seem like an obvious answer
they are fraught with problems. Inflammatory chemicals also serve
important functions in the body and stopping their action may have a
positive effect such as decreasing pain, but they can also have
serious negative impacts. Vioxx is an example where inhibiting the
COX-2 inflammatory enzyme relieved pain, but also impeded the process
to prevent blood clots from forming in the arteries. Dr David Graham,
an employee of the Food and Drugs Administration, estimated that up to
139,000 Americans have died or have been seriously injured as a result
of taking Vioxx.

Even standard arthritis medications called NSAIDs have serious
consequences. According to a June 1999 New England Journal of Medicine
each year over 16,000 people die from gastrointestinal bleeding
because of the unintended interference in the body's healing mechanism
of the digestive tract. According the journal, "It has been estimated
conservatively that 16,500 NSAID-related deaths occur among patients
with rheumatoid arthritis or osteoarthritis every year in the United
States. This figure is similar to the number of deaths from the
acquired immunodeficiency syndrome and considerably greater than the
number of deaths from multiple myeloma, asthma, cervical cancer, or
Hodgkin's disease. If deaths from gastrointestinal toxic effects from
NSAIDs were tabulated separately in the National Vital Statistics
reports, these effects would constitute the 15th most common cause of
death in the United States."

While drugs block a single target molecule greatly reducing its
activity, natural anti-inflammatories have a wide-ranging, gentler
action. According to Greg Cole a professor of medicine and neurology
at UCLA, "you'll get a greater safety and efficacy reducing five
inflammatory mediators by 30 percent than by reducing one by 100
percent."

Aside from avoiding the promoters of inflammation, such as cigarette
smoke, there are approaches that can be used to turn down the heat on
inflammation. Exercise and decreasing weight help reduce inflammation
in the fat and liver cells. A diet rich in vegetables, fruits, whole
grains, and omega-3 fatty acids also turns down inflammation.

The omega-3 fatty acids have been shown in dozens of studies to help
prevent heart attacks by "preventing arrhythmias, making blood less
likely to clot in the arteries, improving the balance of good and bad
cholesterol and limiting inflammation." The omega-3s are found in
coldwater fish such as salmon, sardines, and mackerel as well as
walnuts, flaxseeds, and dark leafy greens.

A diet rich in fruits and vegetables also helps. One anti-inflammatory
compound that has been extensively studied is curcumin. Curcumin is
the yellow pigment in the spice turmeric. Professor Cole has found
that small doses of Curcumin reduce a number of inflammatory markers
such as TNF-alpha (Tumor Necrosis Factor alpha) and IL-1
(Interlukin-1).

The article concludes, "The beauty of these lifestyle changes is that
they're so low tech, affordable and effective. We may all have it
within our grasp to reduce inflammation - if we can just muster the
willpower."

SOURCE: Newsweek Special Edition, Summer 2005

> I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
> never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Jane
Carol - 31 Jan 2007 03:37 GMT
>I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
>never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
>everything both conventional and non without success.

Have you tried removing nightshades from your diet?  Nightshades can
cause pain and inflammation in sensitive people.  They've been
implicated in arthritis and even Crohn's disease, but really it's the
site of previous injury that will be the problem.

This means white potatoes, tomatoes (incl. tomatillos & cherry
tomatoes), eggplant, all peppers (green/red/yellow bell peppers,
ground red pepper, paprika, chiles, pimiento,etc).  If removing the
obvious doesn't help, check out the ingredients in the prepared foods
you're using.  The term "natural flavorings" often includes peppers,
and in fact anything with a red or pink coloring - like for instance
Thousand Island dressing - should be suspect in sensitive people.
Tobacco is a nightshade, so if you smoke, try to cut back or even
quit.  Also be aware that at least 80% of US soybeans have been
genetically engineered with petunia, which is another nightshade (not
to mention all their other problems).  I've also seen cherries,
particularly ground cherries, listed on some websites, without much
detail on why they're included.  Perhaps, like apricots, the pits are
the problem.

The problem with white potatoes is the green parts, so anything in
which the potatoes might not have been handled very carefully should
be avoided.  Any green places on the skin and all eyes should be cut
out, and never use a potato that has already started to sprout.  I do
okay with dehydrated potato flakes, or fresh potatoes that I've
examined myself, but certain whole potato products like fast food
fries or those 'tater tot' things can cost me a couple of weeks of
pain that begins almost immediately, so I just usually avoid potatoes
altogether.

Good luck!

Carol
Jane - 31 Jan 2007 13:40 GMT
> >I strained a muscle in my back four years ago.  Went into spasms and
> >never recovered.  I've been in constant pain ever since.  I've tried
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>
> Carol

Thanks Carol.  Actually I have tried this without success.
 
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