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chronic inflammation - food problem?
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Jane - 27 Jan 2007 14:23 GMT I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried everything both conventional and non without success.
My chiropractor feels that for some reason my muscles are inflamed and nothing we've tried (drugs, exercise, acupuncture or therapy) has been able to get rid of the imflammation.
I wondered if there might be something I should be doing in my diet to help. Right now I eat five servings of fruit daily and two servings of vegies. I eat very little red meat but I do have a sweet tooth. I try to eat low fat sweets but there's still plenty of sugar.
I take fish oil tablets three times daily with meals.
I'm so tired of being in pain and taking more pills than I can count. I'd appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks
Jane
David - 27 Jan 2007 14:44 GMT Have you used Calcium and Magnesium?
>I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and > never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Jane vernon - 27 Jan 2007 18:25 GMT > Have you used Calcium and Magnesium? Yep a basic, also with vitamin D
>>I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and >> never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >> Jane Jane - 28 Jan 2007 00:57 GMT Yup, I take calcium citrate with magnesium (250 mg 4x a day). I've taken it for at least four years.
> >I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and > > never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > Jane vernon - 27 Jan 2007 18:24 GMT >I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and > never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > of vegies. I eat very little red meat but I do have a sweet tooth. I > try to eat low fat sweets but there's still plenty of sugar. Two servings of vegs doesn't seem like much, especially compared to five of fruits.
Sugar is WAYYYY worse than fat except for maybe hydrogenated fats. Sugar, whether from a teaspoon or fruit increases inflamation of any sort.
Red meat can actually help. It is NOT a poison
There is a high probability that you are getting too much sugar (ratio) (That includes fruits) and any basic problem you have is exacerbated. (Too much for YOU) Increase your greens and maybe take a strong B complex tablet.
> I take fish oil tablets three times daily with meals. Some have a reaction to fish oils and some particular brands. You say tablets. I assume you mean capsules. Why so much fish oil?
> I'm so tired of being in pain and taking more pills than I can count. > I'd appreciate any suggestions. > > Thanks > > Jane Jane - 28 Jan 2007 00:55 GMT I read that fish oil was an anti inflammatory. I have not found it has made me worse. Yes, they are capsules.
> >I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and > > never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > > Jane vernon - 28 Jan 2007 14:36 GMT >I read that fish oil was an anti inflammatory. I have not found it > has made me worse. Yes, they are capsules. It is anti-inflamatory. There are cases where some people are allergic to some seafood included in some fish oil capsules. "Fish oil" is generic.
>> >I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and >> > never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> >> > Jane jazon48@yahoo.com - 28 Jan 2007 12:54 GMT > I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and > never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > nothing we've tried (drugs, exercise, acupuncture or therapy) has been > able to get rid of the imflammation. . . . .
> I'm so tired of being in pain and taking more pills than I can count. > I'd appreciate any suggestions. > > Thanks > > Jane I had a similar problem. It was so severe and chronic that I was afraid that I would have to take disability retirement.
I finally went to a Physical Therapist at our local hospital. He did a work-up which included me lifting weights on various types of Nautilus machines.
He found an exercise combo which completely solved my problem. It took several months and quite a bit of pain but he solved it. Or maybe you could say we solved it since he outlined the combo in detail and sent me home to do the work. I never saw him again.
I found that I must keep up with two of the exercises. Six months of slacking off and the pain starts to come back.
That was for my back. I ran into a shoulder problem 15 years later and had the same type of experience with his replacement. The shoulder treatment differed in that I had to stretch rubber tubing at a certain angle while standing in a certain manner. Unfortunately, I kept getting the angles wrong. When I finally got everything right, the pain left in 3 days.
I interpret your post to mean that your chiropractor set up an exercise regime which failed. I wouldn't expect a chiropractor to do anywhere near as well as a certified Physical Therapist when dealing with muscles.
-Jason
vernon - 28 Jan 2007 14:39 GMT >> I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and >> never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > -Jason Chiropractor is a generic term, like Doctor. Good, bad, great useless, positive, negative. There (both) are NOT Gods and have only slightly more education in a narrow field than you have.
Jane - 28 Jan 2007 17:52 GMT First of all the problem was caused by a PT who did an inappropriate adjustment and then failed to help me recover. Since I had never had a back problem I didn't realize what had happened until I was in very bad shape. I have since seen two chiropractors, a physiatrist (sp?), a top notch pain clinic, acupuncture, Reike, hypnosis, Botox, epidural, facet block, on and on and on.
I was getting PT on my knee from someone I really liked and decided to let her try to help my back. On the third visit she had me do what seemed like a fairly benign exercise. I felt a pinch and two days later I went into spasms. That was two weeks ago and I'm still in spasms on and off now. I haven't had these kind of spasms in over a year - the kind that takes your breath away when you move the wrong way. I don't blame her at all. I felt I had to try, but it just didn't work. I am walking a tightrope with my back. One slight move in the wrong direction and it can take months to get back to where I was.
This is why I asked about food and inflammation. I've been told by several practitioners that my main problem is that the inflammation just doesn't seem to want to go away. NSAIDS help the pain somewhat but don't give me any long term help. Also I can't take them for long because they hurt my stomach.
By the way - the chiropractor I see now is wonderful. He completely understands what can and cannot be done. He helps me get through these bad times and he has been the only one to give me any significant relief without throwing drugs at me. He has me on an exercise program of stretching that I do daily. I know it helps because if I miss a day I notice it.
When I say I've tried everything I really meant it.
On Jan 28, 7:54 am, jazo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and > > never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > -Jason Roman Bystrianyk - 28 Jan 2007 16:33 GMT Good day.
This article may be of help to you. Enjoy your day.
Roman
http://www.healthsentinel.com/org_news.php?id=050&title=Inflammation+ %96+The+Root+of+All+Illness%3F&event=org_news_print_list_item
Roman Bystrianyk, "Inflammation - The Root of All Illness?", Health Sentinel, July 27, 2005,
Inflammation is an integral part of the immune system. We're all familiar with inflammation. When you're cut it becomes red and swollen as a response by the immune system and as the cut heals the inflammation dies down. A similar underlying, chronic, low-grade inflammation is now being considered by more and more scientists as a major cause of diseases not only for obvious diseases like arthritis and asthma, but also for heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's, and even cancer. A recent special edition of Newsweek examines this quiet hazard.
Years ago oxidation was being considered as the main culprit in many diseases. Now oxidation is grabbing more of the attention. According to neuroscientist James Joseph of Tufts University, "Inflammation is the evil twin of oxidation. Where you find one, you find the other." This discovery is solving "medical puzzles" such as people with high blood pressure have an increased risk for Alzheimer's or why people with rheumatoid arthritis have higher rates of sudden cardiac death. All these conditions are tied with a connecting thread of inflammation.
When your cut heals the inflammation recedes, but constant exposure to cigarette smoke, excess cholesterol, and low-grade infections can contribute to a low-grade, chronic inflammation. The inflammation simmers like, "a low flame on the back burner that we're unaware of until the pot burns."
Diabetes has emerged as a recent example. The connection between type II diabetes and obesity are so well known that some researchers consider the two combined into a single disease of "diabesity". According to the article, "When you gain weight, fat cells grow more biochemically active, churning out inflammatory compounds. As obesity ratchets up inflammation, inflammation in turn promotes insulin resistance, a central feature of diabetes and the so-called metabolic syndrome that precedes it."
Like diabetes, heart disease is linked with obesity. According to Dr. Peter Libby, chief of cardiovascular medicine at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, "Inflammation is the alpha and omega of atherosclerosis. It's there at every step of the process." In the process plaque formation starts when cholesterol sticks to the artery walls and oxidizes. This triggers an immune response that attempts to clean up the problem. The inflammatory response is the body's attempt to heal, but encourages the formation of larger plaques that can eventually block the artery and result in a heart attack or stroke.
Certain cancers are also being linked to inflammation. According to Lisa Coussens, a cancer biologist at the University of California in San Francisco, "people with chronic inflammatory bowel diseases have tremendously enhanced risk of colon cancer." Some triggers of inflammation include, "cigarette smoke in the lungs, persistent infections like hepatitis C in the liver and chronic heartburn, which repeatedly irritates the lining of the esophagus with gastric acid." The result includes oxidative damage to the DNA which sometimes cripples the suicide mechanism of the cell that would often allow abnormal cells to self-destruct.
Although anti-inflammatory medications seem like an obvious answer they are fraught with problems. Inflammatory chemicals also serve important functions in the body and stopping their action may have a positive effect such as decreasing pain, but they can also have serious negative impacts. Vioxx is an example where inhibiting the COX-2 inflammatory enzyme relieved pain, but also impeded the process to prevent blood clots from forming in the arteries. Dr David Graham, an employee of the Food and Drugs Administration, estimated that up to 139,000 Americans have died or have been seriously injured as a result of taking Vioxx.
Even standard arthritis medications called NSAIDs have serious consequences. According to a June 1999 New England Journal of Medicine each year over 16,000 people die from gastrointestinal bleeding because of the unintended interference in the body's healing mechanism of the digestive tract. According the journal, "It has been estimated conservatively that 16,500 NSAID-related deaths occur among patients with rheumatoid arthritis or osteoarthritis every year in the United States. This figure is similar to the number of deaths from the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome and considerably greater than the number of deaths from multiple myeloma, asthma, cervical cancer, or Hodgkin's disease. If deaths from gastrointestinal toxic effects from NSAIDs were tabulated separately in the National Vital Statistics reports, these effects would constitute the 15th most common cause of death in the United States."
While drugs block a single target molecule greatly reducing its activity, natural anti-inflammatories have a wide-ranging, gentler action. According to Greg Cole a professor of medicine and neurology at UCLA, "you'll get a greater safety and efficacy reducing five inflammatory mediators by 30 percent than by reducing one by 100 percent."
Aside from avoiding the promoters of inflammation, such as cigarette smoke, there are approaches that can be used to turn down the heat on inflammation. Exercise and decreasing weight help reduce inflammation in the fat and liver cells. A diet rich in vegetables, fruits, whole grains, and omega-3 fatty acids also turns down inflammation.
The omega-3 fatty acids have been shown in dozens of studies to help prevent heart attacks by "preventing arrhythmias, making blood less likely to clot in the arteries, improving the balance of good and bad cholesterol and limiting inflammation." The omega-3s are found in coldwater fish such as salmon, sardines, and mackerel as well as walnuts, flaxseeds, and dark leafy greens.
A diet rich in fruits and vegetables also helps. One anti-inflammatory compound that has been extensively studied is curcumin. Curcumin is the yellow pigment in the spice turmeric. Professor Cole has found that small doses of Curcumin reduce a number of inflammatory markers such as TNF-alpha (Tumor Necrosis Factor alpha) and IL-1 (Interlukin-1).
The article concludes, "The beauty of these lifestyle changes is that they're so low tech, affordable and effective. We may all have it within our grasp to reduce inflammation - if we can just muster the willpower."
SOURCE: Newsweek Special Edition, Summer 2005
> I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and > never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Jane Carol - 31 Jan 2007 03:37 GMT >I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and >never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried >everything both conventional and non without success. Have you tried removing nightshades from your diet? Nightshades can cause pain and inflammation in sensitive people. They've been implicated in arthritis and even Crohn's disease, but really it's the site of previous injury that will be the problem.
This means white potatoes, tomatoes (incl. tomatillos & cherry tomatoes), eggplant, all peppers (green/red/yellow bell peppers, ground red pepper, paprika, chiles, pimiento,etc). If removing the obvious doesn't help, check out the ingredients in the prepared foods you're using. The term "natural flavorings" often includes peppers, and in fact anything with a red or pink coloring - like for instance Thousand Island dressing - should be suspect in sensitive people. Tobacco is a nightshade, so if you smoke, try to cut back or even quit. Also be aware that at least 80% of US soybeans have been genetically engineered with petunia, which is another nightshade (not to mention all their other problems). I've also seen cherries, particularly ground cherries, listed on some websites, without much detail on why they're included. Perhaps, like apricots, the pits are the problem.
The problem with white potatoes is the green parts, so anything in which the potatoes might not have been handled very carefully should be avoided. Any green places on the skin and all eyes should be cut out, and never use a potato that has already started to sprout. I do okay with dehydrated potato flakes, or fresh potatoes that I've examined myself, but certain whole potato products like fast food fries or those 'tater tot' things can cost me a couple of weeks of pain that begins almost immediately, so I just usually avoid potatoes altogether.
Good luck!
Carol
Jane - 31 Jan 2007 13:40 GMT > >I strained a muscle in my back four years ago. Went into spasms and > >never recovered. I've been in constant pain ever since. I've tried [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Carol Thanks Carol. Actually I have tried this without success.
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