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Ilena and Censorship

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Ilena Rose - 26 Jan 2007 02:45 GMT
Thanks for bring this to usenet and verifying the fact that Barrett
censored me. I have added below the comments that were censored.

Stephen Barrett claims that my views:

>... have no relevance to the purposes of this list.

How very, very interesting. I was being discussed by Terry Polevoy, in
his usual obsession with my physical whereabouts. (see below)

What I wrote last nite is this:

http://www.ssr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?1:mss:113486:ifcbemkohcmbgakicijp
Disinformation Corrected on Barrett, Grell & Polevoy's Losing SLAPP
suit to me

From: Ilena Rose
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:04:17 +0000

Good morning ... before I get banned again, I thought I would correct
a bit  of the the propaganda against me here.

There has been an enormous amount of disinformation put out about
'Barrett  Vs Rosenthal' ... mainly circulated by members of the "Rag
Tag Posse of Snake-oil Vigilantes."

If any of you doubt existence of this Posse, or believe the propaganda
that  it is just a 'satire page' ... I can assure you there is nothing
funny about  a team who files meritless and harassment lawsuits in
order to silence their  critics such as in this case, and then wages
simultaneous smear campaigns  against those they are suing and losing
to.

http://web.archive.org/web/20050205050827/http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm
Click here to see the 3 losing plaintiffs with others spreading lies
about  this case. (Update as of 12/26/2006 ... they have removed their
Rag-tag Posse List ... this is the archived edition above)

1. Although not one word of anything I wrote or reposted about Barrett
was  considered even arguably defamatory ... I have been accused of
"getting away  with libel.' This is absolute and utter disinformation.

  The Supreme Court justices reaffirmed the two lower courts
decisions, reiterating:

    "As the lower courts correctly concluded, however, none of the
hostile  comments against Dr.    Barrett alleged in the complaint are
defamatory."

2. Whether or not the comment I reposted regarding Terry Polevoy's  
'stalking' of Ms Christine McPhee has NOT been ruled on, despite
enormous  disinformation about this. I have addressed this here:  
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Polevoy.htm

3. Grell, who sued me for libel although I had never mentioned his
name, made this probably libelous comment:

http://p2pnet.net/index.php?page=comment&story=9894&comment=120221

GRELLSPEAK:

"Let me make it clear, Rosenthal was named in the lawsuit because she
continued to repost the same PROVEN libelous publication over and over
nothwithstanding requests that she stop doing so."

This is blatantly false. NO court anywhere has proven that even one
word I  posted was libelous ... this is outrageous propaganda being
spread from the  losing attorney in this case.

Further, Barrett demanded that I remove things about him that were my
opinions, claiming they were 'libelous.' He also demanded thousands of
dollars from me for posting my opinions.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Wikipedia.htm

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here is a snippet from Polevoy (aka Terry Polevoy) to which I had
responded. Barrett thinks only Polevoy's rants are "relevant." My
response that was censored is below Terrors:

Subject: Ilena Rosenthal interview on Sherrill Sellman's radio show
August 28, 2006
From: T Polevoy
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:51:43 -0400

http://www.progressiveradionetwork.org/

Click on Sellman's show and then listen to August 28, 2006 program.

Rosenthal was definitely in Costa Rica for the show.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ilena Rose <ilena.rose@gmail.com>
Date: Oct 4, 2006 5:12 PM
Subject: [healthfraud] Ilena Rosenthal interview on Sherrill Sellman's
radio show August 28, 2006
To: healthfraud@lists.quackwatch.com

*

http://www.ssr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?1:mss:111154:pjfhdlmaenkchenfjpgm

Terry Polevoy:

Your continued obsession with my physical whereabouts has caused me
and my legal team much concern about my personal safety.

There is absolutely no reason in the world that where I am physically
located should be of any concern of yours whatsoever.

Further, short months after you began posting about me being in Costa
Rica, one of your publicists showed up there.

She also is connected with several of your team mates on the Rag-tag
Posse of Snakeoil Vigilantes. (update of 12/26/2006 this Posse has
been taken off the net. Here are the archives:

Should any question this Posse's existence,
here<http://web.archive.org/web/20050205050827/http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.
htm>is

the link to you and Barrett and Grell etc. together on a group of that
name.

http://web.archive.org/web/20050205050827/http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm

Connected with your several on this list with you, she also hired a
private investigator to hunt me down.

This began just short months after the Supreme Court agreed to hear
your case against against me as to whether or not my posting of a
POTENTIALLY or ALLEGED  (NEVER PROVEN) libelous comment, regarding
your "stalking" of  Ms McPhee is actionable. Here is the press on that
case:

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackbustersVsIlena.htm<http://www.breastimplanta
wareness.org/QuackbustersVsIlena.htm
>

Recently, this woman posted several absurd messages claiming that my
husband had left me.

My legal team advises me that it appears she was "fishing" and
attempting to find out if I were alone and unguarded.

This is the same woman, Coleah Penley Ayers, who first posted on
Usenet your puff piece in the Medical Post that was subsequently and
appropriately removed.

Of nearly 6 BILLION people in the world, how in the world did you
choose Coleah Penley Ayers to break this piece?

This is the same woman who is working directly with the President of
Eurosilicone,  although she claims to be a support leader for women
harmed by breast implants.

Why are you obsessed with my physical whereabouts?

These are NOT rhetorical questions.

It feels to me like stalking.

Why did you don the disguise of "Vera Teasdale" and post attacking
messages to me and Dr. Clark on Usenet?

Why did you hide your identity and pretend to be a woman?  (You posted
over 50 posts until your fatal error of using your own email name with
your alias.)

My legal team and I are very concerned with my personal safety.

Penley Ayers is a trained Marine with an addiction to money and
attention. She has now spent years harassing, insulting, and
threatening me on the internet. Since this case was accepted by the
Supreme Court, she upped the ante to private investigators etc.

I want on record on this Healthfraud list, that should anything happen
to me or my family, that you, Stephen Barrett and Coleah Penley Ayers
be immediately and thoroughtly investigated.

Ilena Rosenthal

Director, Humantics Foundation

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/

My guess I will be banned as soon as this appears as is the custom of
this list, so will most likely be unable to respond on this list but
will do so on this website.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Polevoy.htm
PeterB - 26 Jan 2007 19:14 GMT
Ilena, are you saying that Barrett's motely crew got you booted off
mha?  Can you explain how this was done exactly?  

PeterB
Mark Probert - 26 Jan 2007 22:56 GMT
> Ilena, are you saying that Barrett's motely crew got you booted off
> mha?  Can you explain how this was done exactly?  

Do re-read what Ilena posted, as she was quite clear.

She did not say anything about being booted off of any Usenet newsgroup.
If you had even kindergarten level reading comprehension skills, you
would not have even asked the question.
PeterB - 27 Jan 2007 17:16 GMT
> > Ilena, are you saying that Barrett's motely crew got you booted off
> > mha?  Can you explain how this was done exactly?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> If you had even kindergarten level reading comprehension skills, you
> would not have even asked the question.

Markey, clean up your room and take your Geritol.  Hitting 61 and
living on the newsgroups has made you a mess.
Mark Probert - 27 Jan 2007 22:17 GMT
>>> Ilena, are you saying that Barrett's motely crew got you booted off
>>> mha?  Can you explain how this was done exactly?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Markey, clean up your room and take your Geritol.  Hitting 61 and
> living on the newsgroups has made you a mess.

Is that the best you can do? You misread what Ilena (that is with ONE
'l' not two) was quite clear about. Your smartest response would have
been acknowledging that you misread it.

However, true to form, you chose one of the stupid ones. I am certain
that if you respond to this message, you will repeat your behavior.
PeterB - 29 Jan 2007 14:10 GMT
> >>> Ilena, are you saying that Barrett's motely crew got you booted off
> >>> mha?  Can you explain how this was done exactly?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> > Markey, clean up your room and take your Geritol.  Hitting 61 and
> > living on the newsgroups has made you a mess.

> Is that the best you can do? You misread what Ilena (that is with ONE
> 'l' not two) was quite clear about. Your smartest response would have
> been acknowledging that you misread it.
>
> However, true to form, you chose one of the stupid ones. I am certain
> that if you respond to this message, you will repeat your behavior.

Markey, clean up your room and take your Geritol.  Hitting 61 and
living on the newsgroups has made you a mess.  While you're at it,
find the "real" Mark S. Probert who lived on Webster in Merrick and
tell him that he owes himself an apology -- for being you.
Mark Probert - 29 Jan 2007 16:18 GMT
>>>>> Ilena, are you saying that Barrett's motely crew got you booted off
>>>>> mha?  Can you explain how this was done exactly?
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> find the "real" Mark S. Probert who lived on Webster in Merrick and
> tell him that he owes himself an apology -- for being you.

Petey, you are as predictable as sunrise.
Ilena Rose - 27 Jan 2007 13:29 GMT
Hi Peter ...

No, try as they might ... they could not get me off of mha ...

Both Barrett and his Rag-tag Posse Assistant Listmaster, idiot Paul
Lee, have their fingers on the Zapper ... and censor off anyone whose
views they deem "have no relevance" to the purposes of their list.

Cany you imagine ... Polevoy and Barrett and Grell spew their
onesided, loser viewpoints about their losing case against me ... and
then Zap Away my rebuttals.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm

>Thanks for bring this to usenet and verifying the fact that Barrett
>censored me. I have added below the comments that were censored.
[quoted text clipped - 186 lines]
>
>www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Polevoy.htm
PeterB - 27 Jan 2007 16:38 GMT
> Hi Peter ...
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> onesided, loser viewpoints about their losing case against me ... and
> then Zap Away my rebuttals.

Illena, thanks for clarfying.  Also, for keeping women (and men)
informed on this important health issue.

> www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm
>
[quoted text clipped - 188 lines]
>
> >www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Polevoy.htm- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
Mark Probert - 27 Jan 2007 22:18 GMT
> Illena,

That is Ilena with one "L". Do try to keep up.
PeterB - 29 Jan 2007 13:52 GMT
> > Illena,

> That is Ilena with one "L". Do try to keep up.

I know you want to be my spell checker, Markey, but you're too late,
that job went to your buddy David Wright.  You should stick to what
you know best -- Goofing Off and Being a Dope.  See the capital
letters?  Even Pharmonkeys have job descriptions.
Mark Probert - 29 Jan 2007 16:18 GMT
>>> Illena,
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> you know best -- Goofing Off and Being a Dope.  See the capital
> letters?  Even Pharmonkeys have job descriptions.

More sunrise.
Ilena Rose - 28 Jan 2007 00:03 GMT
Mark Probert         wrote:

PeterB wrote:

> Illena,

That is Ilena with one "L". Do try to keep up.

Thanks Mark. I like it when being above board in your obsession with
me, and not pretending to be ignoring me. Good work.

Good one didn't you think ... Steve and Paul Lee having their hand on
the "Zapper"?? Exactly what they do!
Ilena Rose - 28 Jan 2007 00:06 GMT
Mark is right, Peter. Amazing isn't it?

Paul Lee & Barrett Zapper me (and any other non True Believers) off
the Healthfraud List ... not mha [try as they might.]

Shalom.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm
 
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