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Jan Drew's Hatred For Catholics

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Mark Thorson - 28 Oct 2006 20:15 GMT
Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com

I have stated nothing about the Catholic faith.

----- statements about Catholics from Jan's earlier postings -----

Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040922214509.08241.00000819%40mb-m10.aol.com

Absolutley no bigotry, no act, nor any of the desperate accusations.

Eric, do show us where we are instructed to pray to saints. Where did
this belief come from?

It is a man made rule and the work of Satan, placing saints before Jesus
Christ.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040922212212.08241.00000817%40mb-m10.aol.com

The truth that praying to saints doesn't come from God, is in not way a
bigot, nor prejudice.

It is simply the truth.

Jan

Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040602133702.13763.00000187%40mb-m27.aol.com

Praying to saints comes from man, not God, and indeed comes from Satan.

Jan

Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040525010815.13455.00001025%40mb-m06.aol.com

I personally think the
Catholics have done many things wrong.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20031128180805.08361.00001014%40mb-m24.aol.com

There's a huge mistake. NOWHERE is man instructed to pray to
ANYONE OTHER THAN
GOD THROUGH JESUS HIS SON.

Sadly praying to saints comes from Satan.

Jan

Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040524015357.02666.00001366%40mb-m24.aol.com

All prayers to Saints bounce off the ceiling. No where did God instruct
man to pray to anyone except him THROUGH his son Jesus Christ.

Praying to Saints is a man made up rule, led by the help of Satan.

Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=20040602133702.13763.00000187%40mb-m27.aol.com

I have never mention Catholics.

Praying to saints comes from man, not God, and indeed comes from Satan.

Jan
Jeff - 28 Oct 2006 22:22 GMT
> Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
> http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
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>
> Jan

Jan doesn't beleive in praying to saints. Big deal. That doesn't mean she
has anything against Catholics.

I think that preists should be allowed to marry (and I don't mean perfrom
wedding ceremonies). And I think women should be allowed to become preists.
That doesn't mean I hate the Catholic church. Only that I don't agree with
everything they say.

Jeff
Jan Drew - 29 Oct 2006 07:09 GMT
>> Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
>> http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
[quoted text clipped - 74 lines]
>
> Jeff

Thank you, Jeff.
cathyb - 29 Oct 2006 12:36 GMT
> > Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
> > http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
[quoted text clipped - 74 lines]
>
> Jeff

Granted.  However, Jan is saying that their practices are satanic,
which goes quite a long way beyond disagreeing with them.
Jeff - 29 Oct 2006 19:44 GMT
>> > Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
>> > http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
[quoted text clipped - 80 lines]
> Granted.  However, Jan is saying that their practices are satanic,
> which goes quite a long way beyond disagreeing with them.

Saying something comes from Satan, IMHO, is not the same as saying that the
practice is satanic, i.e., worship of Satan.

For example, if the act of praying to saints comes from Satan, then  the
people who pray to saints instead of directly to God are not worshipping
Satan, even if the act of praying to saints instead of to God comes from
Satan. Personally, I think our knowledge and understand of God is so
limited, that we can't really have an informed opinion of whether praying to
saints is right or wrong.

It is kind of like eating liberty fries during the start of the Iraq War.
The fries may have first been made in France, but eating them doesn't mean
that you support the French (although, I did agree with the French position
even back then). No more than eating sour kraut during WWI means that you
supported the Germans.

Jeff
cathyb - 31 Oct 2006 10:42 GMT
> >> > Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
> >> > http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
[quoted text clipped - 83 lines]
> Saying something comes from Satan, IMHO, is not the same as saying that the
> practice is satanic, i.e., worship of Satan.

I must disagree with your premise that disagreeing with the Catholic
Church is the same as calling their practices "from Satan". i.e.,
satanic (in much the same way that something coming from America is
American). Particularly to a christian, that is indeed bigotry and
prejudice.

Cathy

> For example, if the act of praying to saints comes from Satan, then  the
> people who pray to saints instead of directly to God are not worshipping
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> even back then). No more than eating sour kraut during WWI means that you
> supported the Germans.

Actually, it's really not like that at all. Think about it.

> Jeff
Jan Drew - 30 Oct 2006 00:34 GMT
>> > Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
>> > http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
[quoted text clipped - 80 lines]
> Granted.  However, Jan is saying that their practices are satanic,
> which goes quite a long way beyond disagreeing with them.

Rosalind is lying again.
Jeff - 30 Oct 2006 02:26 GMT
>>> > Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
>>> > http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
[quoted text clipped - 88 lines]
>>
> Rosalind is lying again.

I don't think Rosalind is lying. Obviously, I don't agree with her
conclusions. But I don't need to insult her to let my view be known, either.

Jeff
cathyb - 30 Oct 2006 02:59 GMT
> >>> > Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
> >>> > http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
[quoted text clipped - 93 lines]
>
> Jeff

Who the f.ck is Rosalind?
Jeff - 31 Oct 2006 00:31 GMT
>> >>> > Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
>> >>> > http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
[quoted text clipped - 99 lines]
>
> Who the f.ck is Rosalind?

You don't need to use vulgar lanquage.

jeff
Jan Drew - 31 Oct 2006 03:54 GMT
>>> >>> > Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
>>> >>> > http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
[quoted text clipped - 105 lines]
>
> jeff

Imagine her four kids listening to just that.  Vulgar language..

http://web.archive.org/web/20050205050827/http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm

http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/willanidiffer.htm

http://www.dalefield.com/toxicology/

http://www.gatago.com/misc/health/alternative/27487889.html

http://autismdiva.blogspot.com/2005/06/most-toxic-substance.html

http://groups.google.com/groups?lnk=hpsg&q=you+Rosalind+Dalefield+hiding+behind+
the+alias+of+%22Cathy+B.%22%3F
+
cathyb - 31 Oct 2006 10:37 GMT
> >> >>> > Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
> >> >>> > http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
[quoted text clipped - 101 lines]
>
> You don't need to use vulgar lanquage.

That's entirely subjective; obviously I did feel the need.

Who the f.ck is Rosalind?

> jeff
Jan Drew - 30 Oct 2006 03:43 GMT
>>>> > Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
>>>> > http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
[quoted text clipped - 94 lines]
>
> Jeff
Fine.  It is a FACT she is lying.
nosugarintea@yahoo.com - 30 Oct 2006 03:59 GMT
You have never taken a science course in your life, right? You are
retarded .

> >>>> > Quoting from this ORIGINAL POSTING from Jan Drew:
> >>>> > http://www.google.com/groups?&selm=20040924222415.01015.00001086%40mb-m15.aol.com
[quoted text clipped - 95 lines]
> > Jeff
> Fine.  It is a FACT she is lying.
 
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