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VEG OR NON-VEG? IN MUMBAI, IT MATTERS

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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 30 May 2006 00:35 GMT
Veg or non-veg? In Mumbai, it matters

By Ramola Talwar Badam, Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
Monday, May 29, 2006 at 1:11 pm ET

Mumbai, India - Never mind pets, smokers or loud music at
2 a.m. House hunters in Mumbai increasingly are being
asked: "Do you eat meat?" If yes, the deal is off.

As this city of 16 million becomes the cosmopolitan main
nerve of a booming Indian economy, real estate is
increasingly intersecting with cuisine. More middle-class
Indians are moving in, more of them are vegetarian, and
the law is on their side.

"Some people are very strict. They won't sell to a
nonvegetarian even if he offers a higher price than a
vegetarian," said real estate broker Norbert Pinto.

Vegetarianism is a centuries-old custom among Hindus,
Jains and others in India. The government reckons India
has some 220 million vegetarians, more than anywhere else
in the world.

"Veg or non-veg?" is heard constantly in restaurants, at
dinner parties and on airlines. And the question has long
been an unwritten part of the interrogation house hunters
must submit to.

But it's becoming more open, and the effects more
noticeable, all the more so in Mumbai, which attracts
immigrants from Gujarat and Rajasthan, strongly
vegetarian states, as well as followers of the Jain
religion.

In constitutionally secular India, there's no bar to
forming a housing society and making an apartment block
exclusively Catholic or Muslim, Hindu or Zoroastrian.

Vegetarians say they too need segregation.

"I live in a cosmopolitan society," said Jayantilal Jain,
trustee of a charity group. "But vegetarians should be
given the right to admit who they want."

Rejected home-seekers have mounted a slew of court
challenges to the power of housing societies to
discriminate, but last year India's highest tribunal
ruled the practice legal.

"It's just not fair. It's a monopoly by vegetarians,"
said Kiran Talwar, 49, a prosthetics engineer who has
seen vegetarianism take over restaurants and groceries
all over his childhood neighborhood on posh Nepeansea
Road.

"If you step out to eat, there's nothing for miles
because everything around is veggie," he said.

Suburban supermarkets have been known to dump their non-
veg foods overnight because of complaints from shoppers.

"We cleared our shelves of tuna tins and frozen chicken.
We don't keep any nonvegetarian items now," said Neelam
Ahuja, owner of the K-value supermarket. "Many customers
don't like non-veg, so we stopped stocking it."

K-value took the action even though it's in a heavily
Christian neighborhood, and Christians in India aren't
known to have particularly many vegetarians among them.

While Indians are accustomed to housing societies
demarcated by religion, separation by diet has meat-
eaters worried. Mumbai likes to think of itself as a city
wide open to the world, and some worry that the
vegetarian tide goes against that trend.

Vikramaditya Ugra, a young Mumbai banker in search of an
apartment, said vegetarian colonies were fine in
neighboring Gujarat, a state dominated by vegetarians.
"That's in tune with local sensitivity," he said.

"But to impose this restriction is not right in a
cosmopolitan city like Mumbai."

Ravi Bhandari, a 68-year-old retired businessman, said he
tried to lease his apartment to an Indian oil company but
the housing society bluntly nixed the deal.

"They said the first tenant is vegetarian, but who knows
who will replace him?" said Bhandari, himself a
vegetarian who confesses that he had a soft spot for
chicken in his youth. "I respect their concerns so I
didn't lease my flat."

More at:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060529/ap_on_re_as/india_veggies_only_1

[All instances of "Bombay" changed to
the correct name "Mumbai".  - JM]

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me - 30 May 2006 03:19 GMT
> Veg or non-veg? In Mumbai, it matters
>
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> "If you step out to eat, there's nothing for miles
> because everything around is veggie," he said.

veggie food isn't "nothing".

> "We cleared our shelves of tuna tins and frozen chicken.
> We don't keep any nonvegetarian items now," said Neelam
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> Christian neighborhood, and Christians in India aren't
> known to have particularly many vegetarians among them.

Would K-value have faced any consequence other than loss of customers by not
taking this action?

> "But to impose this restriction is not right in a
> cosmopolitan city like Mumbai."

Was Shivaji a vegetarian? What proportion of Marathis are vegetarian?
harmony - 31 May 2006 18:34 GMT
meat can ruin a vegetarian's day. meat eaters, inpsired by kirastanism and
mummudism, are known to ruin other peoples' day.
it's best these two irreconcilable peoples live apart. may be there should
be a separate nation for veggies well walled off from terrorist meat eaters
who will most definitely try to infiltrate since it is enjoined in bible and
kuran (if mohamdism was a good religion they would have named their book
suran, not kuran)

> Veg or non-veg? In Mumbai, it matters
>
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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 31 May 2006 23:14 GMT
Actually meat hurts the corpse eater (nonvegetarian)  even more.

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> meat can ruin a vegetarian's day. meat eaters, inpsired by kirastanism and
> mummudism, are known to ruin other peoples' day.
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> > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the
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