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Medical Forum / General / Alternative / February 2006Colon Cleanse Experiment
For those that might be interested I'm running an on going experiment with a colon cleansing product called Colonix. I'm not affiliated with the product and will be posting my findings be they good or bad. You can find the site here : http://www.experimentmonkey.com/category/colon-cleanse/ If anybody else has used this product I'd love for you to post you experiences as well. Cheers, oneson I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole Body Cleanse and loved it! No harsh herbs that cause cramping, yet it gives you a nice gentle cleanse in just 14 days. Here's the link: http://www.vitaminexplorer.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&produc ts_id=4800 > I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole Body > Cleanse and loved it! No harsh herbs that cause cramping, yet it gives > you a nice gentle cleanse in just 14 days. Here's the link: http://www.vitaminexplorer.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&produc ts_id=4800 Colon cleansing is one of the biggest scams of this or the last century. Colons don't need cleaning. Ask any real doctor. Robert >> I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole Body >> Cleanse and loved it! No harsh herbs that cause cramping, yet it gives [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Robert Why don't you ask a REAL doctor, not you simple minded "practitioner"? Most REAL doctors do it themselves. Now once a year or every couple years is usually enough. >>> I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole Body >>> Cleanse and loved it! No harsh herbs that cause cramping, yet it gives [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Most REAL doctors do it themselves. Sure they do. I think your tinfoil hat is falling off. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth >>>> I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole Body >>>> Cleanse and loved it! No harsh herbs that cause cramping, yet it gives [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Sure they do. I think your tinfoil hat is falling off. You really like to spout off with no knowledge. Oh that's right. You are right and it doesn't matter what Doctors do. It only matters what's in your imagination. >Oh that's right. You are right and it doesn't matter what Doctors do. It >only matters what's in your imagination. No Vern. It only matters what you think. Cancer patients have acidic bodies. High dilution homeopathic remedies are not more potent than low dilution homeopathic remedies according to homeopathic theory. And finally colon cleanses are important for good health. We sure are lucky to have such a knowledgeable fellow like you in this newsgroup. You certainly are a wealth of information. I would ask Vern to provide scientific evidence that colon cleanses promote good health but I won't bother since he will likely produce the same quality evidence that he produced for cancer acidic bodies and high dilution homeopathic remedies. If Vern says it then it must be true. No supportive evidence necessary. His say so is all we need. Aloha, Rich ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- Best defense to logic is ignorance >>Oh that's right. You are right and it doesn't matter what Doctors do. It >>only matters what's in your imagination. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >and high dilution homeopathic remedies. If Vern says it then it must >be true. No supportive evidence necessary. His say so is all we need. Rich, you have not yet grasped the "vernon method." He will tell you to do the research yourself. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth >>>>> I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole Body >>>>> Cleanse and loved it! No harsh herbs that cause cramping, yet it gives [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >Oh that's right. You are right and it doesn't matter what Doctors >do. It only matters what's in your imagination. You're projecting, vernon. Besides, you think I don't know any doctors? I know plenty of them, and they'd all laugh themselves sick at the idea that they're all out doing colon cleanses once or twice a year. Talk about a useless procedure... -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth > > I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole Body > > Cleanse and loved it! No harsh herbs that cause cramping, yet it gives > > you a nice gentle cleanse in just 14 days. Here's the link: http://www.vitaminexplorer.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&pr oducts_id=4800 > Colon cleansing is one of the biggest scams of this or the last century. > Colons don't need cleaning. Ask any real doctor. > > Robert I would say you are a young bloke in your 20s, and obviously never been through the nutrition depleting process of pregnancy, or never been subject to malnutrition in any great way, I would say your opinions are basicaly MEANINGLESS. Go and join a hobby aeroplane flying club or motor mechanics or similar. Your opinions are MEANINGLESS in this group. Carole http://www.conspiracee.com http://www.cellsalts.net >> > I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole Body >> > Cleanse and loved it! No harsh herbs that cause cramping, yet it gives [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Go and join a hobby aeroplane flying club or motor mechanics or similar. > Your opinions are MEANINGLESS in this group. Er, Carole, Robert is a doctor. He's actually seen inside colons, healthy and otherwise. Have you?  Signature--Rich Recommended websites: http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles http://www.acahf.org.au http://www.quackwatch.org/ http://www.skeptic.com/ http://www.csicop.org/ >>>>I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole Body >>>>Cleanse and loved it! No harsh herbs that cause cramping, yet it gives [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Er, Carole, Robert is a doctor. He's actually seen inside colons, healthy > and otherwise. Have you? Rich, please. That is something I really don't want to know....... >> > I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole Body >> > Cleanse and loved it! No harsh herbs that cause cramping, yet it gives [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >to malnutrition in any great way, I would say your opinions are basicaly >MEANINGLESS. Say whatever you like. He's right, and "colon cleansing" is a total scam. >Go and join a hobby aeroplane flying club or motor mechanics or similar. >Your opinions are MEANINGLESS in this group. I could say the same about you, but I don't tell you to stop posting. So which one of us is intolerant? -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth > >> > I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole Body > >> > Cleanse and loved it! No harsh herbs that cause cramping, yet it gives [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Say whatever you like. He's right, and "colon cleansing" is a total > scam. I don't agree but I don't believe in the actual mechanical process of the hose up the rear end, although it probably works well enough. My version of colon cleansing is where the body does it for itself. I discovered shortly after beginning taking cellsalts that certain ones resulted in a purging effect, mostly calcium or sodium phosphate /sulphate. I used to always suffer from stiff muscles in the neck and back and found out that a good dose of the sodium phosphate/sulphate combination, taken along with a few cups of tea would bring about an emptying of the bowels. But afterwards the headache would be gone and the muscles loosened up and back to normal. Therefore my conclusion is that the body knows how to clean itself out if given the required nutrients which would be lacking. > >Go and join a hobby aeroplane flying club or motor mechanics or similar. > >Your opinions are MEANINGLESS in this group. > > I could say the same about you, but I don't tell you to stop posting. > So which one of us is intolerant? But what annoys me about Robert is his total lack of understanding of the alternative health topic. He seems to just repeat the old standard anti-alternative medicine crap that is classic disinformation from the pharmaceutical mob. Frankly, I can't be bothered reading, letalone responding to his mindless regurgitations. He must be fresh out of brainwashed medical school. Carole http://www.conspiracee.com http://www.cellsalts.net > > >> > I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole > Body [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > http://www.conspiracee.com > http://www.cellsalts.net You people do not want want to hear the truth about your belief in ancient supersitions and outnoded alterrnative (untested) cures. Where do you practice medicine? Robert > > > >Go and join a hobby aeroplane flying club or motor mechanics or > similar. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Robert "You" people? Who doesn't want to hear the truth? You wouldn't know an ancient supersitition if it bit you on the dick. The word is OUTMODED. Did I say I practiced medicine? Please answer each one of these points. Carole http://www.conspiracee.com >> >> > I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole >Body [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >after beginning taking cellsalts that certain ones resulted in a purging >effect, mostly calcium or sodium phosphate /sulphate. There are certainly substances that will cause purging. I would have thought you might be using magnesium. >I used to always suffer from stiff muscles in the neck and back and found >out that a good dose of the sodium phosphate/sulphate combination, taken >along with a few cups of tea would bring about an emptying of the bowels. >But afterwards the headache would be gone and the muscles loosened up and >back to normal. However, that's miles from saying that these things are *necessary* for everyone. Or even for most people. Or anyone other than you. And even then, we haven't established any sort of necessity. Now, I frequently have a sore neck from workouts. However, in my case, meditation, properly applied, works wonders. No nutritional intervention needed, nor do I need to worry about a lot of sudden, emergency trips to the loo. >Therefore my conclusion is that the body knows how to clean itself out if >given the required nutrients which would be lacking. It'd be even more likely that the body knows how to clean itself out, period, and doesn't need much in the way of external intervention, at least as long as you get enough fiber in your diet. >> >Go and join a hobby aeroplane flying club or motor mechanics or >> >similar. Your opinions are MEANINGLESS in this group. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >anti-alternative medicine crap that is classic disinformation from the >pharmaceutical mob. How do you know it's disinformation? There's really no evidence that this whole colon cleansing thing is necessary. I mean, if it was, humanity would have died out long ago, before the wonders of colon cleansing were discovered. >Frankly, I can't be bothered reading, letalone responding to his >mindless regurgitations. >He must be fresh out of brainwashed medical school. An institution at which you wouldn't last ten minutes, remember. Too difficult a curriculum. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth > In article <4401186d$0$30909$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, > >> Say whatever you like. He's right, and "colon cleansing" is a total > >> scam. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > There are certainly substances that will cause purging. I would have > thought you might be using magnesium. I do use magnesium phosphate, but its usually the calcium or the sodium phosphate/sulphate combo that does it. > >I used to always suffer from stiff muscles in the neck and back and found > >out that a good dose of the sodium phosphate/sulphate combination, taken [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > However, that's miles from saying that these things are *necessary* > for everyone. Or even for most people. Or anyone other than you. Most people are calcium deficient by the time they're 65. Most people love to have their back massaged and have knotted muscles. The sodium phosphate/sulphate combo neutralises acid in the muscles which is the cause of the knotting and pain. > And even then, we haven't established any sort of necessity. Now, I > frequently have a sore neck from workouts. However, in my case, > meditation, properly applied, works wonders. No nutritional > intervention needed, nor do I need to worry about a lot of sudden, > emergency trips to the loo. OK, some people are different and I'm starting to get a bit like that now myself. However, I can remember back then when my muscles were so stiff and it was very painful and uncomfortable. > >Therefore my conclusion is that the body knows how to clean itself out if > >given the required nutrients which would be lacking. > > It'd be even more likely that the body knows how to clean itself out, > period, and doesn't need much in the way of external intervention, at > least as long as you get enough fiber in your diet. Some people have very good bowel movements and are very regular, and some people even get a dose of the runs here and there for no apparent reason. Others suffer more with constipation and can drink huge amounts of water and eat fibre like there's no tomorrow, and it will make very little difference. > >> >Go and join a hobby aeroplane flying club or motor mechanics or > >> >similar. Your opinions are MEANINGLESS in this group. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > humanity would have died out long ago, before the wonders of colon > cleansing were discovered. Everything Robert says is based on an assumption. Read his previous post to this last one of yours. He makes rash generalisations and assumptions as if they're fact. > >Frankly, I can't be bothered reading, letalone responding to his > >mindless regurgitations. > >He must be fresh out of brainwashed medical school. > > An institution at which you wouldn't last ten minutes, remember. > Too difficult a curriculum. Good. I wouldn't want to do it anyway. Plus the system is rigged and they teach crap. Carole http://www.conspiracee.com http://www.cellsalts.net >>> In article >>> <43fecacb$0$12183$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > There are certainly substances that will cause purging. I would have > thought you might be using magnesium. Colon cleansers are NOT laxatives except to some people. >>I used to always suffer from stiff muscles in the neck and back and found >>out that a good dose of the sodium phosphate/sulphate combination, taken [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > However, that's miles from saying that these things are *necessary* > for everyone. Or even for most people. Or anyone other than you. But, a lot > And even then, we haven't established any sort of necessity. Now, I > frequently have a sore neck from workouts. However, in my case, > meditation, properly applied, works wonders. No nutritional > intervention needed, nor do I need to worry about a lot of sudden, > emergency trips to the loo. Any half way decent colon cleanser causes one or two eliminations a day, maximum. Most people who benefit have a habit of only once every other or every third day. >>Therefore my conclusion is that the body knows how to clean itself out if >>given the required nutrients which would be lacking. > > It'd be even more likely that the body knows how to clean itself out, > period, and doesn't need much in the way of external intervention, at > least as long as you get enough fiber in your diet. Most of the best colon cleansers are primarily fiber with some calming and anti gas agents. The need is reduced if not eliminated with a good high fiber diet. Now whole body cleansers are good for bowel, liver and kidneys and people who have abused their bodies can benefit greatly Drugs, alcohol, some medications, near zero fiber and fluid. There are only millions who fall into that category. >>> >Go and join a hobby aeroplane flying club or motor mechanics or >>> >similar. Your opinions are MEANINGLESS in this group. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." > -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth >> >> > I haven't used Colonix, but I have used Enzymatic Therapy's WHole >Body [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >after beginning taking cellsalts that certain ones resulted in a purging >effect, mostly calcium or sodium phosphate /sulphate. Calcium sulphate? Plaster of Paris? Have you thought of taking equal quantities of calcium sulphate and magnesium sulphate at the same time to see which wins? SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > >> Say whatever you like. He's right, and "colon cleansing" is a total > >> scam. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Have you thought of taking equal quantities of calcium sulphate and magnesium sulphate at > the same time to see which wins? There are 12 essential cellsalts. The magnesium I take is magnesium phosphate. Carole http://www.cellsalts.net http://www.conspiracee.com > -- > Peter Bowditch aa #2243 > The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles > Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au > Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au > To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com "Robert" <writer77@comcast.net> wrote You people do not want want to hear the truth about your belief in ancient supersitions and outnoded alterrnative (untested) cures. Where do you practice medicine? Robert Now for the *truth* Carole told of her *experience*. My version of colon cleansing is where the body does it for itself. I discovered shortly after beginning taking cellsalts that certain ones resulted in a purging effect, mostly calcium or sodium phosphate /sulphate. I used to always suffer from stiff muscles in the neck and back and found out that a good dose of the sodium phosphate/sulphate combination, taken along with a few cups of tea would bring about an emptying of the bowels. But afterwards the headache would be gone and the muscles loosened up and back to normal. Therefore my conclusion is that the body knows how to clean itself out if given the required nutrients which would be lacking. ========= That was her test, based of her experience. She was not practicing medicine. This IS misc health alternative. Where people can share their experiences. If you have a problem with that, you are in the wrong newsgroup. |
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